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firstly they try to sell you either Google search engine optimization or Facebook advertising.. be warned you will not receive either ...what will happen is ...they sneakily attempt to get you on a rolling contract which takes 30 days written notice to cancel by then you've probably already paid a whopping £500 for something that might cost £20 to do your self . These people will then threaten you will all sorts of stuff including personal debt collectors and legal action if you should cancel your debit / credit card ...
these say they work in london have a po box address in london but are really a manchester out fit with 2 adresses
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more info on him to follow...
The complaint has been investigated and resolved to the customer’s satisfaction.
I'm glad there aren't 24 pages of complaints or accusations against my company, but a wise Director that knew the complaints were unfounded would not have stooped to respond in the first place, and in time the unfounded accusations would have died off. But that hasn't happened has it Mr Mcvey, because you are not a 'wise' director, and the complaints are not unfounded. What's more people will continue to hound you for the rest of time on this thread, because whilst you continue to rip people off, there are good decent people out there that will continue to try and warn others from falling victim to your scamming lies and theft. So buckle up Tom mcvey and enjoy the ride. We are here to stay.
Good afternoon readers,
For the love of god you would think angry small minded people trying for 4+months with over 2000+ negative comments would have understood there opinions are NOT TRUE and given up by now.
The facts are: We are a business, its a competitive industry & as we are head & shoulders above any other company we are resented. We provide an amazing return on investment for clients and invite anybody to get in contact to see for themselves.
If you listened to any of the comments defaming us on here you would think we are an outright scam with a mountain of evidence to easily prove it, wouldn't you. Why not make up your own mind...
I will refer back to the ruling of an ADVERTISING WATCHDOG for people to read & derive their opinions of us not anonymous, malicious & obsessed individuals.
Please read these details:
The ASA (Advertising Standards Authority) Says: "consumers searching for ‘Social Media People’ via Google would see the advertisers’ sponsored search ad appear alongside the search engine results. We considered that the ad was alleging that the Social Media People was a company running a scam and because we had not seen evidence to support that claim"
Who Are The ASA: The ASA is the UK’s independent watchdog committed to maintaining high standards in advertising for the benefit of consumers, advertisers and society at large. Visit this section for an introduction to the ASA, our remit, history and meet our senior team members.
I have invited any genuine customers with questions or apprehensions to myself direct so we can deal with efficiently & speedily. If you wish to call us a scam, please don't expect to be believed, complaints are fine, with the amount of customers we have we expect to have unhappy customers, but calling us a scam is different, not ethical & certainly NOT TRUE.
I must state I can not emphasise enough my regret that we are 24 pages full of accusations & insinuations. As a family business we have pride in our work and business ethics. For more than the past decade we have endeavoured to provide the highest level of service possible and we have received some fantastic feedback built long lasting business relationships with people we are proud to have worked with. We have shared many happy memories with many good people but, with regret, of late we have been forced to fend off some horrible accusations and, admittedly, we have had to stoop down a level or two. Please do NOT believe some of the lies on here, to read some of them you would think we were criminals. We never said that we have kept 100% of our customers happy 100% of the time, but we HAVE gave 100% and nothing less, judge us on our results NOT on peoples opinions, which for all you know could be fabricated lies.(and based on what the ASA have concluded it looks as though thats exactly what it is!)
Edsarn
Your assumption I feel is extremely valid and factual.
As part of Tom McVey's group their 'sister company Net66 is supposed to be a web design and SEO specialist company that is at the cutting edge of technology, but they can't get their newby company TSMP's site even ranked on Google! I wonder why? perhaps either competing with 743, 000, 000 results for Facebook advertising is beyond their ability? or they do not want to be found? or both?
Evidently, according to their site, TSMP are now trading in:
Tel: +[protected]
Email: info@thesocialmediapeople.com
80 Broad Street 5th Floor
New York City
10004 UNITED STATES - An Office Block which does not have them registered there or even known off!
www.thesocialmediapeople.fr
Email: info@thesocialmediapeople.fr
Boulevard de Sebastopol
75001 Paris - A PO BOX ADDRESS at a post office. It's the only post office in Europe that's open 365 days a year, 24 hours a day.
www.thesocialmediapeolpe.nl A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY IN THE MIDDLE OF A HOUSING ESTATE
Email: info@thesocialmediapeople.de
Elst, Gelderland
Arnhem
Netherlands 6661ZW
An illusion of grandeur without a shadow of doubt. Not bad though for a office in the back street of Piccadily railway station Manchester, which a night doubles as a known street walkers paradise for the ladies of the night!
Not bad for a company Incorporated 23/09/2010 with no account details registered at Companies House, if their illusions were true! Easy enough to check. Like their London address, a PO box address! Deny that one McVeys, or are you going to quote the ASA?
Why? because they continually use smoking mirrors for the benefit of deciet and general dishonesty of all that they come into contact with; if they were to put as much effort into being an organisation which is professional, ethical, customer orientated, provide a legitamate service and have integrity I am sure they would have legitimate clients who would be shouting from the rafters as to what a good group of companies they are! But where are they? Out of 12-14k companies on their books, as they claim, surely they could get a few literate ones to back them up? Or is the case that facts are too much of a hinderance and to be ignored as with the law of the land by the MvVeys?
The fulcrum does not swing in their favour.
camilla4785 No your wrong again
It is a bit of a farce though because if you enter a search term for something say they say they do, for example, Facebook advertising, TSMP are actually nowhere to be seen. Strange that. Only by entering their URL or their title will they actually show up. Of course you also get their detractors with this. for a company that relies on cold calling and pressure selling having a prominent website probably isn't the best idea perhaps.
02-08-2011: Hi Informer28:
I didn’t know until recently that when ASA gets a complaint it gives the ‘offending party’ every opportunity to put things right without public knowledge or scrutiny. If the ‘offender’ complies with what it’s told no-one else ever knows there was a complaint.
So an outsider MAY notice changes – to a website for instance – but wouldn’t know WHY the changes had been made.
However, as in the recent ‘adjudication’, if the person/company which is the subject of a complaint says “No, I’m not changing it.” The ASA has no alternative but to go through he process and ‘adjudicate’ against them.
So all credit to that ex-employee; he/she wanted to let the world know that The Social Media People is a scam, and stood by their word. Unfortunately it also meant the adverts were taken down.
At least it’s shown that when a crumb of fact seems to support TSMP they will use, and re-use it. All other facts – those which are more difficult to face up to - are ignored or ‘smokescreened’.
Tom Faulkner, I am surprised that TSMP did not quote you the ASA when you asked for the correct VAT invoice! lol.
The ASA incidently only said, and I quote '...had not seen evidence to support that claim...' and as such found the Google Adwords campaign for www.the-social-media-people-scam.co.uk '...to be disparaging to the complainant’s company..'
Tom McVey you may wish to use a dictionary, Oxford English is quite a good one, to see exactly what disparaging means "showing or expressing disapproval or contempt"
That is a mile away from stating that your companies are not a scam!
But hey, when did reality count in any discussions with you or your companies, or REAL Facts? Conveniently ignored and unanswered when questioned. Unprofessional to the hilt.
It made me laugh (well - once I'd got over the anger!) that when I asked TSMPs Accounts Department for a correct VAT Invoice they asked me: "What would you like to be included?"
When I said that they should already know, or be able to find out, they asked me again to list what they needed to include.
The resulting VAT Invoice still failed to satisfy the VAT requirements.
01-08-2011: The Social Media People has enough time on its hands to dish out a few old insults, and to 'cut and paste' a post which has already (largely) appeared at least twice before in the last couple of days. But not enough time to post some simple facts about a business process the company performs every day. Issuing a VAT INVOICE.
It doesn’t matter too much – except in further confirming TSMPs fear of facts which might compromise its hollow claims of good business practices, honesty, ethics etc.
Her Majesty’s Revenue & Customs has some information on its website at:
http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/vat/managing/charging/vat-invoices.htm#2
Will TSMP claim that HMRCs VAT authority is lying?
From the HMRC website:
What a VAT invoice must show
A VAT invoice must show:
• an invoice number which is unique and follows on from the number of the previous invoice - if you spoil or cancel a serially numbered invoice, you must keep it to show to a VAT officer at your next VAT inspection
• the seller's name or trading name, and address
• the seller's VAT registration number
•.the invoice date
• the time of supply (also known as tax point) if this is different from the invoice date - see below
• the customer's name or trading name, and address
• a description sufficient to identify the goods or services supplied to the customer
For each different type of item listed on the invoice, you must show:
• the unit price or rate, excluding VAT
• the quantity of goods or the extent of the services
• the rate of VAT that applies to what's being sold
• the total amount payable, excluding VAT
• the rate of any cash discount
• the total amount of VAT charged
There is an option for companies retailing goods or services at less than £250 to have a ‘Simplified VAT Invoice; but that wouldn’t apply as TSMP isn’t retailing – but anyway, TSMP would still be shown to be incapable of consistently producing such VAT Invoices.
Simplified VAT invoices
If you make retail sales and you make a sale of goods or services for £250 or less including VAT, then when a customer asks for a VAT invoice, you can issue a simplified VAT invoice that only needs to show:
• the seller's name and address
• the seller's VAT registration number
• the time of supply (tax point)
• a description of the goods or services
Why is this relevant? It relates to VAT Invoices issued by TSMP. Everyone who has received one can see how much - or how little - of what is required by the VAT man appears in TSMP VAT Invoices.
Good afternoon readers,
I am forced YET AGAIN to post to make sure anybody who may read this understands the difference between fact & opinion. There are many many accusations on here of scam, scam fraud this & that.
I am not going to stoop to the level of personal insults as others on here have, nor threaten to give out personal details including address's, we have something we were brought up with - DECENCY. I will simply post facts, if narrow minded people keep insinuating that the ASA are not competent enough to identify scams then I invite if not urge them to report us to the necessary authorities & we will comply, as far as we can see anybody hiding behind an anonymous name & offering to give out address's and making malicious insinuations is to be avoided and ignored. All we can do is present facts, we are aware Tom Faulkner is obsessed, 200+ comments says that. But beware of violent insinuations from people, there is no place for that on here, nor anywhere, I for one am disgusted!
I will refer back to the ruling of an ADVERTISING WATCHDOG for people to read & derive their opinions of us not anonymous, malicious & obsessed individuals.
Please read these details:
The ASA (Advertising Standards Authority) Says: "consumers searching for ‘Social Media People’ via Google would see the advertisers’ sponsored search ad appear alongside the search engine results. We considered that the ad was alleging that the Social Media People was a company running a scam and because we had not seen evidence to support that claim"
Who Are The ASA: The ASA is the UK’s independent watchdog committed to maintaining high standards in advertising for the benefit of consumers, advertisers and society at large. Visit this section for an introduction to the ASA, our remit, history and meet our senior team members.
I have invited any genuine customers with questions or apprehensions to myself direct so we can deal with efficiently & speedily. If you wish to call us a scam, please don't expect to be believed, complaints are fine, with the amount of customers we have we expect to have unhappy customers, but calling us a scam is different, not ethical & certainly NOT TRUE.
I must state I can not emphasise enough my regret that we are 24 pages full of accusations & insinuations. As a family business we have pride in our work and business ethics. For more than the past decade we have endeavoured to provide the highest level of service possible and we have received some fantastic feedback built long lasting business relationships with people we are proud to have worked with. We have shared many happy memories with many good people but, with regret, of late we have been forced to fend off some horrible accusations and, admittedly, we have had to stoop down a level or two. Please do NOT believe some of the lies on here, to read some of them you would think we were criminals. We never said that we have kept 100% of our customers happy 100% of the time, but we HAVE gave 100% and nothing less, judge us on our results NOT on peoples opinions, which for all you know could be fabricated lies.(and based on what the ASA have concluded it looks as though thats exactly what it is!)
Again, sadly, no questions nor customers concerns are answered, just a quote from the ASA which neither confirms or denies that the TSMP are a scam however, Tom Mcvey has put a spin on it to his own end. Some might say fair enough but taking into account the ASA did NOT say they were not!
Yet TSMP condemn others (Tom Faulkner for example) for quoting and providing legitimate paperwork which discredits them with the lack of professionalism, spelling and grammatical errors, basic arithmetic - and that's not including Tom McVey's threatening behavior, both verbal (phone calls) and written as well as pretending to be a solicitor and a non existent customer services' Company Director. These Facts are clearly plain to see by all yet Tom McVey clearly does not and will not engage with anybody who questions his or his father's ethics, propriety, honesty and professionalism.
Why would that be? Umh hard question(s)?
No! The questions are not hard, but to answer them Tom McVey would have to engage in the truth and use the integrity that all professional and legitimate businesses engage, and do you really think that will happen?
I think not!
01-08-2011:
Request to The Social Media People to provide accurate information to help all readers.
To give The Social Media People an opportunity to present the correct information – and thus avoid the possibility of others ‘lying’ or presenting their ‘opinions’ - I wonder if The Social Media People would like to tell everyone what information is required to be included in a VAT Invoice?
Good morning readers,
I am forced YET AGAIN to post to make sure anybody who may read this understands the difference between fact & opinion. There are many many accusations on here of scam, scam fraud this & that.
Steve Badbiz Jones (who works for one of the largest scam outfits in the country) now has a new alias, & has been up to his old tricks of posting on here at 2 in the morning again, look at the times on Saturday, you have to wonder about this man & his alias's, they really are worrying to us normal human beings.
I have invited any genuine customers with questions or apprehensions to myself direct so we can deal with efficiently & speedily. If you wish to call us a scam, please don't expect to be believed, complaints are fine, with the amount of customers we have we expect to have unhappy customers, but calling us a scam is different, not ethical & certainly NOT TRUE.
Please read these details:
The ASA (Advertising Standards Authority) Says: "consumers searching for ‘Social Media People’ via Google would see the advertisers’ sponsored search ad appear alongside the search engine results. We considered that the ad was alleging that the Social Media People was a company running a scam and because we had not seen evidence to support that claim"
Who Are The ASA: The ASA is the UK’s independent watchdog committed to maintaining high standards in advertising for the benefit of consumers, advertisers and society at large. Visit this section for an introduction to the ASA, our remit, history and meet our senior team members.
I must state I can not emphasise enough my regret that we are 24 pages full of accusations & insinuations. As a family business we have pride in our work and business ethics. For more than the past decade we have endeavoured to provide the highest level of service possible and we have received some fantastic feedback built long lasting business relationships with people we are proud to have worked with. We have shared many happy memories with many good people but, with regret, of late we have been forced to fend off some horrible accusations and, admittedly, we have had to stoop down a level or two. Please do NOT believe some of the lies on here, to read some of them you would think we were criminals. We never said that we have kept 100% of our customers happy 100% of the time, but we HAVE gave 100% and nothing less, judge us on our results NOT on peoples opinions, which for all you know could be fabricated lies.(and based on what the ASA have concluded it looks as though thats exactly what it is!)
Dear Mr McVey,
Unfortunately, I was stupid enough to fall for the facebook scam and the google scam. We have never had a single click on the facebook page, and the promise of being in the top 3 positions with 10 phrases is a total lie. The highest I found for one of the phrases was on page 5. I couln't find us with any of the other phrases. The funny thing is that we were on page 4 before I paid you. The total is now £889.20, not so funny!
Janette T
In reality I doubt it, there are a lot of blagging Sammer companies out there and it would appear that McVeys have a tendency to arrange their businesses around Portugal Street Manchester as there trading address, due to their residency in Heywood Greater Manchester (address details by request) not their registered address which they have a various PO Box numbers in London.
We just received some negative reviews on this website, the I found this thread could FBG Interent be the new face fo these people?
http://fbginternetscam.blogspot.com/2011/07/fbg-internet-employees-are-now-breaking.html
The only reference from TSMP to the ASA noted they had not seen enough evidence to suggest the Social Media People were a scam. It was also suggested that the ad had been created by a disgruntled ex-employee, who obviously felt there was something wrong to go to all the effort of building a website, buying the domain name www.the-social-media-people-scam.co.uk and running an Adwords campaign and I quote his thoughts on TSMP:
'...THIS COMPANY IS A SCAM!
TRUST ME THE AMMOUNT OF ADVERTS YOU RECEIVE IS NO WAY NEAR ENOUGH TO MAKE ANY TYPE OF RETURN, AS 80 PERCENT OF FACEBOOK USERS IGNORE THE ADS ANYWAY.
TRYING TO CANCEL IS ANOTHER STORY. THEY RE-BILL YOU MONTH AFTER MONTH EVEN AFTER YOU CANCEL THE ONE MONTH TRIAL!
AND DONT THINK OF WORKING FOR THEM EITHER, AS THEY WILL KEEP YOU ON THEN GET RID OF YOU AFTER 2 WEEKS WITHOUT PAY! UNLESS YOUR DOIN 10 DEALS A WEEK!
I WAS THEYRE 6 MONTHS THEN LEFT,
SCAMMING ###...'
So it appears that it is not just the people who have been scammed by the McVey's who are pissed off, it is also their employees that they piss off too! What a lovely company to be involved with on all fronts!
Role on the clowns, over to you McVeys
29-07-2011:
When The Social Media People states: "Please do NOT believe some of the lies on here, to read some of them you would think we were criminals."
Are people to conclude that the "some of the lies" we shouldn't believe are any which don't come from them; and the remainder of the lies, those we should believe are the ones peddled by The Social Media People?
There may be lies on here accusing TSMP of criminality, but there are also truths demonstrating their criminality.
"We have shared many happy memories with many good people" - Aaaah isn't that lovely!
29-07-2011: Tom Faulkner continues to post dates of all his comments & misleading statements. AKA Lies and very un-credible opinions. - Everytime he posts we will continue to prove why his comments should be ignored.
Tom Faulkner's opinion: "categorically & unequivocally" WORTHLESS
He has repeatedly called us a scam because he didn't work out of the advert he did with us. We KNOW it is to do with his local reputation, but we will not post that info as the police didn't actually gain the evidence to charge him - although the network of solicitors & investigators have also requested to see some of that info & if we don't provide it we are sure somebody will. - Then based on EVIDENCE! - not opinion or accusation or claims that contradict governing bodies, you can make up your own mind.
Tom Faulkner says: "Remember - the issue is The Social Media People and its scams."
The ASA (Advertising Standards Authority) Says: "consumers searching for ‘Social Media People’ via Google would see the advertisers’ sponsored search ad appear alongside the search engine results. We considered that the ad was alleging that the Social Media People was a company running a scam and because we had not seen evidence to support that claim"
Who Are The ASA: The ASA is the UK’s independent watchdog committed to maintaining high standards in advertising for the benefit of consumers, advertisers and society at large. Visit this section for an introduction to the ASA, our remit, history and meet our senior team members.
Who is Tom Faulkner: A driving instructor that works alone in the Brighton area. Who has made almost 200 negative & untrue comments about us, because he did not see an add on Facebook.com. (even though when he lied to his bank to call us a scam & say we didnt do the Add we forwarded the info.They obviously ruled against him because they looked at evidence NOT opinion)
Please beleive who ever you will.
I must state I can not emphasise enough my regret that we are 23 pages full of accusations & insinuations. As a family business we have pride in our work and business ethics. For more than the past decade we have endeavoured to provide the highest level of service possible and we have received some fantastic feedback built long lasting business relationships with people we are proud to have worked with. We have shared many happy memories with many good people but, with regret, of late we have been forced to fend off some horrible accusations and, admittedly, we have had to stoop down a level or two. Please do NOT believe some of the lies on here, to read some of them you would think we were criminals. We never said that we have kept 100% of our customers happy 100% of the time, but we HAVE gave 100% and nothing less, judge us on our results NOT on peoples opinions, which for all you know could be fabricated lies.(and based on what the ASA have concluded it looks as though thats exactly what it is!)
29-07-2011: Evidence
Another point about the ASA adjudication. The use of that piece of 'evidence' - which is certainly what it is - shows that on the rare occasion that The Social Media People can use some evidence in its favour it is very happy and quick to do so.
Yet - when volumes of evidence which do not support its case are presented - they are not man enough to acknowledge or address it. They send up a smokescreen of abuse and irrelevancies.
29-07-2011:
But Tom McVey - You ARE criminals.
Some crimes you may still be getting away with, but by not reponding to a 'Request for Company Information' and not displaying your company name at the registered office you have demonstrably committed criminal acts. (Companies Act).
Some may say 'small crimes', and possibly so but crimes nonetheless.
29-07-2011:
The Social Media People states that I insinuate they ae unethical. That is a lie.
I categorically, unequivocally state: The Social Media people is unethical.
It seems that the ASA staement quoted by TSMP was the result of an adjudication, so was not confidential, and therefore was not a breach of confidentiality.
I can't believe I'm saying this but: 'I apologise for getting that wrong.'
However it does NOT say that TSMP isn't a scam. It states:
The ASA noted that the complainant’s company was called The Social Media People and understood that any consumers searching for ‘Social Media People’ via Google would see the advertisers’ sponsored search ad appear alongside the search engine results. We considered that the ad was alleging that the Social Media People was a company running a scam and because we had not seen evidence to support that claim, we considered that that implication was disparaging to the complainant’s company. We therefore concluded that the ad denigrated The Social Media People.
Therefore all it states is that the ASA has not seen proof TSMP is a scam.
I wonder how sympathetic readers will be to hearing that someone made an unsubstantiated claim about the integrity of TSMP?
Now, has ANYONE on this forum ever made an unsubstantiated claim?
All remaining elements of my 2 previous posts remain unaltered by that mistake. (But Tom's gonna love it!)
29-07-2011: Tom Faulkner continues to post dates of all his comments & misleading statements.
Yet another attempt to insinuate we are unethical.
Tom Faulkner says: "Remember - the issue is The Social Media People and its scams."
The ASA (Advertising Standards Authority) Says: "consumers searching for ‘Social Media People’ via Google would see the advertisers’ sponsored search ad appear alongside the search engine results. We considered that the ad was alleging that the Social Media People was a company running a scam and because we had not seen evidence to support that claim"
Who Are The ASA: The ASA is the UK’s independent watchdog committed to maintaining high standards in advertising for the benefit of consumers, advertisers and society at large. Visit this section for an introduction to the ASA, our remit, history and meet our senior team members.
Who is Tom Faulkner: A driving instructor that works alone in the Brighton area. Who has made almost 200 negative & untrue comments about us, because he did not see an add on Facebook.com. (even though when he lied to his bank to call us a scam & say we didnt do the Add we forwarded the info.They obviously ruled against him because they looked at evidence NOT opinion)
Please beleive who ever you will.
I must state I can not emphasise enough my regret that we are 23 pages full of accusations & insinuations. As a family business we have pride in our work and business ethics. For more than the past decade we have endeavoured to provide the highest level of service possible and we have received some fantastic feedback built long lasting business relationships with people we are proud to have worked with. We have shared many happy memories with many good people but, with regret, of late we have been forced to fend off some horrible accusations and, admittedly, we have had to stoop down a level or two. Please do NOT believe some of the lies on here, to read some of them you would think we were criminals. We never said that we have kept 100% of our customers happy 100% of the time, but we HAVE gave 100% and nothing less, judge us on our results NOT on peoples opinions, which for all you know could be fabricated lies.(and based on what the ASA have concluded it looks as though thats exactly what it is!)
Camilla/Camillas Chinchilla could you just go away you are lowering the tone of the whole forum with a ludicrously high level of unprofessionalism, foul language and slander. Funnily enough encouraged and condoned by TSMP's own MrMcVey. The social media people are a vile scam, anyone on this is here for a reason, they've been conned, or they're Tom McVey under an alias, because you don't get satisfied customers on a complaints board. I can speak for myself at least for defo, and assume JanetteT and Lady1000 etc have been victims also. We have all been scammed and harassed by this company and the genuine advice from genuinely dissatisfied clients of theirs, is not to go near them.
And somewhat amusingly I was directed to this site by The Social Media People.
Before TSMP wrongly accused me of libel, and directed me to this site, to see the post which offended them so much, I was blissfully unaware of it.
TSMP accused me of libel because it believed I was making waves by asking its Blue-Chip 'non-Clients' how happy they were to be helping TSMP advertise its services.
TSMPs suspicions had been demonstrated previously when a 'fake' solicitor phoned me to accuse me of slander.
many will have seen that TSMP has never responded to that question 'Who was the solicitor?' Just like it never responds to any material point, question or complaint. And a recorded telephone message from TSMP to me confirms that they wanted me to believe a solicitor had phoned me. (Many will have heard that message.)
TSMPs suspicians were at least partly correct - I had contacted many of its Blue-Chip 'non Clients' - not to slander the company but to ask about the association. ALL said they had never given permission for their good names to be used to support TSMP. The majority said there had been no dealings whatsoever. Some said there had been some minor dealings but they were unsatisfactory. Some successfully had their logos removed, others found it more difficult to get any cooperation.
For the preceding points I am not offering proof, as my conversations with those companies and ASA were confidential. However, the removal of the 'Our Clients' page from the website coincided with the involvement of ASA relating to misleading advertising and false claims.
We all know that TSMP doesn't like me. I don't like them much. But those feelings do not affect the validity of the accusations supported by solid evidence. These companies are scams.
No ethics. No Integrity. No ability to address a criticism, question or arguement. Defrauding customers intentionally. Flouting the laws of business.
29-07-2011: The Social Media People breaches confidentiality?
Anyone who has had dealings with ASA knows that when they correspond they require complainents to maintian details of communications as confidential - and not be re-transmitted. Only when what they term 'an Adjudication' is made is the process publicly apparent. Thus quoting the ASA statement (if its true?) breaches that confidentiality. Something not new to the antics displayed by TSMP.
TSMP repeatedly attempts to dismiss me as a puppet of BadBiz. Just look back at the text of what was just written (more thn once).
Then look much further back, and you can see that my dissatisfaction with, and questioning of the ethics, morals, integrity, business practices of The Social Media People began long before BadBiz came on the scene.
Additionally, my first post offered TSMP the opportunity to disprove my claims by publishing communications between us. But instead of using the opportunity to use clear, objective evidence, it ignored the offer and just began the pathetic attempts at character assasination etc.
Have I mentioned the term 'smokescreen' before?
And, of course, you've seen that when TSMP documents are publicised they are very uncomfortable about it. TSMP can not bear to defend the indefensible information conveyed by its own documentation. Once again a smokescreen goes up.
TSMP COULD have used evidence and reasoned arguement in its attempts to prove its case; but it chose insult, rant, defamation and any amount of unverified claims - against me and anyone else it feels threatens its criminal, fraudulent, unethical activities.
I have (usually) provided evidence of claims I make. TSMP has rarely provided anything other than diversionary tactics.
The ASA has already acted on at least a copule of occasions to reign in TSMPs false claims (thus the 'coincidental removal of the infamous 'Our Clients' page, and the removal of the substitute 'Reviews' page which also included fake reviews at times when ASA was in touch. Although apparently removed, reviews are still there but have been downgraded to unverifiable, anonymous reviews.
See:
http://thesocialmediapeople.co.uk/blog-reviews/social-media-people-reviews/
TSMP will no doubt continue to attempt to defend itself by attacking others. But objective readers can look at the evidence, check the sources and make their own judgement.
Remember - the issue is The Social Media People and its scams.
Er Clive,
Yes you are right, but most companies don't try and give the impression also that they are actually working from that address as Steve Jackson, 'Customer Services Director' did on numerous occasions and on this forum. Take a look - if you don't know already. Seemed to have stopped doing that now.
You seem to be forgetting that most of us are concerned on here about the SMP and not a side show about Badbiz.
Morning all,
Firstly, although I fully appreciate & would go as far to say I support Camilla & Clives comments. I have to confirm it is NOT me, neither anyone in my organisation.
Having said that, it is nice to see some truth on these forums, yes, we too get AT LEAST 8 requests per month offering a "reputation management" service from comments both on this forum (well known for extortion) and also badbiz (well known for delusion & lies). Everyone of our clients receives a personal account manager & if there is any misunderstandings we have a network of customer care agents.
The malicious insinuations on here are primarily by Steve BadBiz Jones who has influenced others around him & put words in people mouths time after time. This is unacceptable & as far as his own personal ethics, WELL!
they leave a lot to be desired. He is a preacher who does not practice his own preaching - aka A LIAR & A CHEAT!
Why has he spent all that time trying to influence people to make us look unethical when all along this individual is linked with some very unsavoury practices have a look at:
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001335499181&sk=wall
Blatently his profile, set up to get traffic to his sites, just like:
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000198055038&sk=wall
On which he changed his profile pic from his own pic to someone he has probably stole from google or something on the 13th June 2011, I think it was Steve Jackson who pointed that out.
Now we know his wife (or him) also commenting on:
http://creditcarddebtfree.tk/unenforceable-credit-agreements-wwwbeneficialclaimscouk.html
The puzzle is slowly fitting together, this individual has influenced people around him, put words in their mouth & has gave the impression we are unethical for too long, now his time is up and the liar he is is exposed for all to see, what a con merchant.
Let me also quote the ASA (advertising authority) when commenting a website (maybe set up by Steve Jones) about The Social Media People Ltd (UK), this site implied we were a scam the ASA say:
The ASA noted that the complainant’s company was called The Social Media People and understood that any consumers searching for ‘Social Media People’ via Google would see the advertisers’ sponsored search ad appear alongside the search engine results. We considered that the ad was alleging that the Social Media People was a company running a scam and because we had not seen evidence to support that claim
Make your own mind up. Who do you believe, a well funded, well resourced authority who specifically monitor advertising online or Steve "BadBiz DebtAddiction Winterbourne" Jones. And his side kick Tom Faulkner who, honestly has it in for us because we exposed a website set up by his pupils making some serious accusations, if he continues to LIE and call us unethical, maybe we will have to put forward the evidence so people can see his true colours and understand his motive, after all its been proved beyond reasonable doubt that he had his advertising campaign on Facebook and we delivered as after he lied to the bank to try to get a refund they found AGAINST him as they seen the proof. Tom, a bit of advice, stop doing what Steve tells you, its obvious your not interested in the truth otherwise you would'nt constantly openly support a liar! call it a day with the untrue allegations, the truth has come out you will not be extorting any money from us.
Also Janette T I have sent you a personal message if you are a genuine client we are keen to speak and rectify your opinions and offer help & a speedy resolution. Although why call us a scam without making contact, also, I can confirm we only have ONE Janette on our books, who has only been on board 2month. Also £709.20. /5 = 141.82 our service is £99 per month + VAT = £118.80 x 5 so I must admit I doubt this is a genuine claim. If your is genuine I would be happy to help.
Kind Regards
Tom McVey
Ok, there seems to be some very bad feeling towards Steve Badbiz Jones from a few posters. Why include others or bring it on to a thread about a completely different issue? Can't one of you open a thread devoted to him and his companies rather than using this thread? I'm pretty sure he'd reply.
Regards Uth
29-07-2011:
Whatever other threads develop, this one is now back on track to focus on The Social Media People and its devious and criminal activities.
A comment made by Clive_Wilmot can certainly be applied to The Social Media People. They:
"SCAMMED, yes, genuinely SCAMMED people out of hundreds, if not thousands of pounds and providing a NON-EXISTENT SERVICE."
Tom, you're right.
We should create a new thread entitled "The Stephen Jones Badbiz Scam", pertaining to this sad little individual and his fetish of signing up to every service in the bloody country, trying his hardest to shoehorn some kind of complaint out of it and threatening to them to court because he can't ready the T&Cs.
Funny how Stephen ignores all the comments about him being associated with one of the most notoriously poor companies in the UK who has SCAMMED, yes, genuinely SCAMMED people out of hundreds, if not thousands of pounds and providing a NON-EXISTENT SERVICE.
But anyway, back to TSMP...
29-07-2011: The issue is The Social Media People defrauding customers.
Much of the volume of recent posts has been to provoke and deliver exchanges which divert attention from the issue which is the title of this thread:
"The Social Media People, Net66. Complaints - scam"
There are lots of genuine complaints. The Social Media People and Net66 do 'scam' customers.
Although aggrieved customers know by now that a rational, businesslike response is unlikely from TSMP, the discussion should be concentrated, and reconcentrated when necessary, back to the subject.
Camilla's Chinchilla, You talk about me having no balls I suggest you reveal yourself who you actually are. You mouth off like a little ### and you obviously think you know who I am, but if your not some scared little wimp you would say exactly who you are. By the way you should also read Jones v British Telecom. yet another case that is open to the general public.
Again anyone dealing with The Social Media People
REMEMBER IF YOU’RE READING THIS AND HAVE PAID THIS SCAM OUTFIT CLAIM THE MONEY BACK VIA YOUR BANK ANYONE NEEDING HELP WITH THIS SEND ME AN EMAIL AND I WILL GLADLY ASSIST YOU. THERE CONTRACT MEANS NOTHING IN LAW AND DON’T LET THEM BULLY YOU THEY WONT DO ANYTHING AS THEY ARE SCARED OF ANY LEGAL ACTION.
Janette T I hope your not using your real name. as you can see people associated with this company threaten violence and threaten businesses I suggest that you follow this,
REMEMBER IF YOU’RE READING THIS AND HAVE PAID THIS SCAM OUTFIT CLAIM THE MONEY BACK VIA YOUR BANK ANYONE NEEDING HELP WITH THIS SEND ME AN EMAIL AND I WILL GLADLY ASSIST YOU. THERE CONTRACT MEANS NOTHING IN LAW AND DON’T LET THEM BULLY YOU THEY WONT DO ANYTHING AS THEY ARE SCARED OF ANY LEGAL ACTION.
camilla4785 So yourr going to ### slap me hey? Nice threat of a criminal offence keep it going guess where you will be visiting and then in previous comments you should check Jones v Halifax, Jones v Lloyds TSB a current case Jones v Edwin Coe LLP so I never took anyone to court, Again you get all your facts totally wrong again.
Can anyone give me any advice?
Ashamed to say I have been caught by the Social Media People scam. I have only just realised they have taken 5 payments out of my account totaling £709.20.
Any advice?
Janette
Because Stephen Jones isn't doing his "good work" of "uncovering the bad guys" for anything other than money in his own pocket - eventually he hopes some companies will give him a wod of fivers to shut him up. It won't happen.
Personally I don't know the practises of TSMP, nor does it really bother me - but what bothers me is the fact that this man thinks he can get away with slandering companies by buying a [censored]load of hosting and domains (which clearly, Go Daddy has cottoned onto and disconnected themselves with him entirely, especially after creating the strangely named "Go Duddy" website), and he's brainwashed others into joining in with his filthy little schemes.
And yes, he DOES have connections with Yes Loans. Take a look at this hilarious piece of reputation management, using the good old "kssbcm" username:
http://creditcarddebtfree.tk/unenforceable-credit-agreements-wwwbeneficialclaimscouk.html
(Beneficial Claims & Yes Loans are ran by the same bunch of con artists - by the way, read the first four comments before the final for the most hilarious affect!)
Well said Humphrey, spot on. What's the point in all this anger and why are so many posters being abused?
you know what you lot, i dont really care about all this pathetic personal ###, i feel i was ripped off by this company and so do many other people