STORMPAY/NetIBA review: Scam

Here's some info:

Steve Girsky
StormPay, Inc
1690 Golf Club Lane
Clarksville, TN 37043
Telephone: [protected]
Fax: [protected]

STEVEN C GIRSKY
4987 Shadowbend Cir
Clarksville, TN [protected]
[protected]

Stormpay Office:
[protected] ext. 105

Girsky, Steven C (residence)
4987 Shadowbend Cir
Clarksville, TN [protected]
[protected]

Girsky, Steven C (office)
121 S Third St
Clarksville, TN [protected]
[protected]

Registered Agent and President:
Name: JOHN R. MCCONNELL, JR.
Address Line 1: 1690 GOLF CLUB LANE
City: CLARKSVILLE
State: TN
Zip: 37043
Telephone: [protected]
Fax: [protected]

Tymglobal.com is Steve Girsky
By now most of us know that StormPay and NetIBA were incorporated by the SAME person. Mr. John McConnell Jr is the registered agent, the principal officer, and the customer service contact of NetIBA. This man is also the registered agent of Stormpay. Steven Girsky is the CEO and Customer Service contact for StormPay. You can see my previous post on this at http://www.getpaidforum.com/forums/s...s-t425180.html.

Interestingly, these two men are also neighbors. From The State of Tennessee Comptroller of the Treasury, Real Estate Assessment Data website (http://170.142.31.248/ParcelList.asp or go to http://170.142.31.248/SelectCounty.a...lectCounty=063 and type Shadowbend in the Property Address Box):

MCCONNELL JOHN R
ETUX DEBORAH K
4975 SHADOWBEND CR
CLARKSVILLE, TN 37043
[protected] (from www.whitepages.com)

This is where John lives. From the data you can see he lives in a 2 story, 3, 012 sq ft home he bought for $266, 000. He also owns 4981 and 4990 Shadowbend (both plots of land).

From the same site:
GIRSKY STEVEN C
ETUX CAROL L
4987 SHADOWBEND CR
CLARKSVILLE, TN 37043
[protected] (from www.whitepages.com)

Steven lives in a 2 story, 3, 692 sq ft home he bought for $250, 000.

According to google maps: Map Link, they live 168 ft apart; it takes about 4 seconds to get from one house to the other.

Before filing a complaint with the BBB about StormPay, one should contact Steven Girsky at:
1690 GOLF CLUB LANE
CLARKSVILLE, TN, 37043
[protected]; Fax [protected]

If you have a complaint about NetIBA, before filing with the BBB, you should contact John Mcconnell at [protected]. If you reverse search this number at www.whitepages.com, you find it belongs to NetIBA at 1690 Golf Club Lane, Clarksville, TN 37043.

Who owns 1690 Golf Club Lane you ask? This 2 story, 6, 068 sq ft, 30 office building is owned by John R. Mcconnell! Imagine that!

No, you're not seeing double, NetIBA is at the same address as StormPay, in the building owned by John McConnell. The only difference is the phone number.

My question: is it legal to call a business owner at home? Of course, you are almost certain to lose your account, rather than get anything resolved so I wouldn't recommend it! Additionally, according to the BBB, Steven Girsky is a lawyer working for Batson, Nolan, Brice, Harvey, & Williamson. However, Steven Girsky is not listed on their web page: www.bnbwg.com. Nor is he listed as a member of the Tennesee Bar Association. I don't dare speculate on this and anyone else inclined to do so should cease and desist!

Looking back at the Tennesee property records, I looked up S. Third St to see who owns the building where Steven is/was a lawyer. It's owned by BNBWG Realty. Hmm, Could those letters stand for Batson, Nolan, Brice, Williamson, & Girsky? Doing a search on google tells me I am correct. However, the BBB doesn't have a record of this company and the address is the same address as the attorney's office address. I guess BNBWG Realty doesn't do much business?

Finally, according to the BBB, Stormpay has "an unsatisfactory record due to a pattern of complaints received. In the past 36 months, the company has received complaints specifically concerning the company's failure to inform and follow up with its customers when it suspends accounts, failure to release funds in a timely manner and failure to resolve complaints directly with company management. The company has responded to each complaint presented by BBB. However, the company has not eliminated the pattern of complaint. The BBB Definition of pattern: - More than 2 complaints involving the same allegations usually within 12 months that are significant in relation to the company's size and volume of business. YTD 2006, the company has received 8 complaints; in 2005, the company received 49 complaints; in 2004, the company received 6 complaints.

In comparison, PayPal has a satisfactory record. To see the definition of satisfactory: http://www.bbbsilicon.org/commonreport.html?bid=210387

The proof is in the pudding folks. For all practical purposes, StormPay and NetIBA are the same company. Don't be ripped off by them!

Additionally, If you are desperate to contact StormPay or it's owner, I believe you can find enough information here to do so. You might have to think outside the box a bit though.

All the information provided here is a matter of public record. I have provided the links where you can find the same information for yourself. Being a web researcher, I know where to look for these kinds of things.

From The Leaf-Chronicle, Clarksville TN. 01-20-2006

Clarksville Speedway gains new name, new sponsorship
Deal with StormPay.com will allow track to expand,
raise cash prizes

Jimmy Trodglen is sports editor and can be reached by
e-mail at [protected]@theleafchronicle.com or by
phone at 245-0261.

Government Actions Against Steve Girsky:

Government Actions

On August 7, 2003, the Tennessee Securities Division of the Department of Commerce & Insurance issued an "Order to Cease and Desist" (file number 03-020) with TymGlobal, Inc., StormPay, Inc. and John R. McConnell, Jr.

The order states that TymGlobal and StormPay are under common ownership and/or control. TymGlobal operates an internet website which is registered to StormPay. On the internet website, respondents are operating a pyramid and/or Ponzi scheme promising large returns on investments for participating in the scheme. The order further states that TymGlobal has not registered any securities offerings with the Division pursuant to Tennessee Securities Act of 1980. Nor has the company registered with the Division as a broker-dealer, agent of a broker-dealer or investment adviser. Also, the respondent StormPay has not registered any securities offerings with the Division nor has the company registered with the Division as a broker-dealer, agent of a broker-dealer, or investment adviser. John R. McConnell, Jr. has not registered with the Division as a broker-dealer, an agent of a broker-dealer or as an investment adviser.

Potential investors were given the opportunity to invest in both partnership shares as TymGlobal as well as to participate in various Ponzi schemes. Respondents promised a high return. The offering of participation in the schemes sold by the respondents is an investment contract and thus, a security under the act.

The Division ordered the respondents TymGlobal, StormPay and John R. McConnell, Jr to cease and desist the conduct of a broker-dealer in the state of Tennessee until such time as it effectively registers with the Division. The order did not intend to prohibit lawful conduct of the respondents.

For additional information concerning this order, please contact Daphne Smith, Assistant Commissioner for Securities, State of Tennessee, Department of Commerce and Insurance, Suite 680, 500 James Robertson Pky, Nashville, TN 37243.

Report as of February 2, 2006
Copyright© 2006 Better Business Bureau®, Inc.

Since talking to the governor’s office in Tennessee Stormpay has many complaints in the past about issues frozen accounts. i spoke with Becky Bradley and she has asked that you email any and all information to her about Stormpay wrong doing her email address is becky.[protected]@state.tn.us apparently she wants to help get this resolve in a timely manner.

Edited to add: Stormpay is now verified/certified by completely different company that 2 days ago: Geotrust.com.