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Rygiel Supports For Community Living review: Harassment and Slander is allowed 9

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I was a college student and was recommended by others to do my student placement there. I was placed at two houses with each house having two female occupants in need of help with personal care, and daily living. It turned out to be a nightmare. One lady in particular has a BAD reputation for slandering anyone if she feels things don't go her way. I was still placed there even though the placement co-ordinator was aware of what would happen. It was my duty to spend time with all four women and help with feedings, outings or just companionship. This one woman in particular i'll call "B" who was in a wheelchair like the rest of the women, started telling me bad things about people within the house, within the main office, and within the community. I noticed that she treated some staff members like garbage and would call the office and report them with lies. when i say garbage, i mean garbage. If the staff member is eating lunch, B will stop them and make them do something for her. If a staff member is going to wash B's roommates clothes, B will INSIST that they HANDWASH the roommates underwear knowing it's covered in ###. They do it because they're scared that B will call the office and accuse them of mistreatment. if she didn't get her way, there was a huge X on the person's back and she would do whatever she needed to do to get them in trouble even if that meant fake crying, lying, making up stories that didn't exist. B has gotten people fired or close to being fired. I told the Team Leader in the house and it was evident that this was the norm and there isn't going to be any changes as the office states B has a mental issue that causes her to lie. I also started doing placement hours in the office and noticed that B would use the other students to her advantage. She works at the office two days a week as a greeter. She would send the students to run her errands and buy her lunch knowing it was against the rules. Students are not allowed to take any money what so ever unless we go with the person. B tried using me to run her errands and i told her if she wanted to go, i will go with her but i am not taking her money. Once i started saying no, she would report me to the office any chance she got saying i either don't like her or i'm not treating her well. When i found out and called the office asking for a meeting, i was told by the coordinator that there is no point in having a meeting and B will only start crying and basically, everyone knows that she's a liar and will try to ruin people. I asked to be moved to another place but still went to visit the ladies at home because i grew fond of them. On two occasions, I gave one lady a tea bag and a jello cup that i had in my pocket. B took it to another level.. During my final evaluation, my teacher and the coordinator as well as myself sat down and discussed the experience. After that, she said told my teacher everything about B and said that B would like to sit down and have a meeting with MY TEACHER. mind you, my teacher has nothing to do with Rygiel. He was there to make sure the placement ran smooth and i did well. The coordinator explained to my teacher that B will ruin me if she doesn't like me and even though she knew what B would tell my teacher would be a lie, she wanted him to talk with B anyway to give her a peace of mind. How is that ok? Why is rygiel allowing someone to slander me? i was being graded on everything! my teacher didn't even want to talk with B but the coordinator insisted. Every person i've talked with within the office or outside the office has had negative dealings with B falsely accusing them of something and that there is never any disciplinary action taken. I also found out that other people who are more disabled than B have been disciplined for minor issues but B gets a slap on the wrist for slander. She is still working in the office. I confronted B and asked her why she keeps on going to the office with lies and why get my teacher involved knowing i was being graded on everything. she got mad and said she doesn't want to talk about it. if it was a disability that causes her to lie like the coordinator stated, how would she know right from wrong? she would lie constantly thinking it was truth. I called the coordinator as well as the coordinator that deals with B and asked for a meeting so we can all agree on what i can do or cannot do in regards to B...and B being in that meeting as well. I asked for that meeting because i still had it in my mind to volunteer with rygiel. No one called me back! I spoke with a lawyer and he suggested i take rygiel and B to small claims court since the agency knew what has been going on and failed to do anything about it. and the fact that they allowed B to sit down and slander me to my teacher enabling. It's disgusting that because of B my chances of being hired at that rygiel are non existent. It's sad that they let these things happen. I feel like they do nothing because they government gives them a big chunk of money to care for B so they do whatever they can to keep her there. BE CAREFUL IF YOU CHOOSE TO DO PLACEMENT WITH THIS COMPANY. take this as a warning. the office doesn't care about you. they don't handle situations in a professional way and allow slander and defamation of character.

Update by yoyomax
Dec 19, 2014 8:42 am EST

I was a college student and was recommended by others to do my student placement there. I was placed at two houses with each house having two female occupants in need of help with personal care, and daily living. It turned out to be a nightmare. One lady in particular has a BAD reputation for slandering anyone if she feels things don't go her way. I was still placed there even though the placement co-ordinator was aware of what would happen. It was my duty to spend time with all four women and help with feedings, outings or just companionship. This one woman in particular i'll call "B" who was in a wheelchair like the rest of the women, started telling me bad things about people within the house, within the main office, and within the community. I noticed that she treated some staff members like garbage and would call the office and report them with lies. when i say garbage, i mean garbage. If the staff member is eating lunch, B will stop them and make them do something for her. If a staff member is going to wash B's roommates clothes, B will INSIST that they HANDWASH the roommates underwear knowing it's covered in ###. They do it because they're scared that B will call the office and accuse them of mistreatment. if she didn't get her way, there was a huge X on the person's back and she would do whatever she needed to do to get them in trouble and or fired even if that meant fake crying, lying, making up stories that didn't exist. B has gotten people fired or close to being fired. I told the Team Leader in the house and it was evident that this was the norm and there isn't going to be any changes as the office states B has a mental issue that causes her to lie. I also started doing placement hours in the office and noticed that B would use the other students to her advantage. She works at the office two days a week as a greeter. She would send the students to run her errands and buy her lunch knowing it was against the rules. Students are not allowed to take any money what so ever unless we go with the person. B tried using me to run her errands and i told her if she wanted to go, i will go with her but i am not taking her money. Once i started saying no, she would report me to the office any chance she got saying i either don't like her or i'm not treating her well. When i found out and called the office asking for a meeting, i was told by the coordinator that there is no point in having a meeting and B will only start crying and basically, everyone knows that she's a liar and will try to ruin people. I asked to be moved to another place but still went to visit the ladies at home because i grew fond of them. On two occasions, I gave one lady a tea bag and a jello cup that i had in my pocket. B took it to another level.. During my final evaluation, my teacher and the volunteer coordinator as well as myself sat down and discussed the experience. After that, the volunteer coordinator told my teacher everything about B and said that B would like to sit down and have a meeting with MY TEACHER. mind you, my teacher has nothing to do with Rygiel. He was there to make sure the placement ran smooth and i did well. The coordinator explained to my teacher that B will ruin me if she doesn't like me and even though she knew what B would tell my teacher would be a lie, she wanted him to talk with B anyway to give her a peace of mind. How is that ok? Why is rygiel allowing someone to slander me? i was being graded on everything! my teacher didn't even want to talk with B but the volunteer coordinator insisted. Every person i've talked with within the office or outside the office has had negative dealings with B falsely accusing them of something and that there is never any disciplinary action taken. I also found out that other people who are more disabled than B have been disciplined for minor issues but B gets a slap on the wrist for slander. She is still working in the office. I confronted B and asked her why she keeps on going to the office with lies and why get my teacher involved knowing i was being graded on everything. she got mad and said she doesn't want to talk about it. if it was a disability that causes her to lie like the coordinator stated, how would she know right from wrong? she would lie constantly thinking it was truth. I called the volunteer coordinator as well as the coordinator that deals with B and asked for a meeting so we can all agree on what i can do or cannot do in regards to B...and B being in that meeting as well. I asked for that meeting because i still had it in my mind to volunteer with rygiel after placement. No one called me back! I spoke with a lawyer and he suggested i take rygiel and B to small claims court since the agency knew what has been going on and failed to do anything about it. and the fact that they allowed B to sit down and slander me to my teacher is enabling slander and defamation of character. It's disgusting that because of B my chances of being hired at that rygiel are non existent. It's sad that they let these things happen. I feel like they do nothing because they government gives them a big chunk of money to care for B so they do whatever they can to keep her there. BE CAREFUL IF YOU CHOOSE TO DO PLACEMENT WITH THIS COMPANY. take this as a warning. the office doesn't care about you. they don't handle situations in a professional way and allow slander and defamation of character to take place.

Update by yoyomax
Dec 31, 2014 4:30 pm EST

this was my personal experience with rygiel. some may have it good, i didn't have it that great as you can see. it's not defamation if things did happen. if it didn't happen, and i went on a rant, that would be defamation and slander. this is what happened to me and i''m allowed to tell my experience. if they want to take it to a lawyer they can do as they please. all the support workers who had issues with the same client in my presence should be subpoenaed then, because their issues were documented with the office. as well as my teacher who was asked to sit down and hear lies about me...my teacher was even advised that what he would be told by the client would be lies because that particular client is known for constantly falsely accusing people when she gets mad. my teacher didn't even want to have the conversation but he did it to give the coordinator a "peace of mind" because B will go on a rant. once again, i am allowed to state experiences that happened as long as their were true. and they were.

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Itslate
, US
May 02, 2016 12:15 am EDT

yoyo is telling the truth, for some reason Rygiel does allow their residents to rule the roost

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bahar lal
, CA
Aug 25, 2015 1:28 am EDT

Wow. Sad situation I think. **digusted one**, It's so very obvious that you in itself are or work for the company in question tehehehe (my thoughts). The way you mentioned lawyer and everything. What you should have done before commenting was contact your "lawyer" first. He or she would have instructed you to say nothing. Just eat up the fact that you got a bad review and leave it as is. People have the legal right to review companies and products. Let me tell you where I think you went wrong.

"I worked at rygiel and with the volunteer coordinator and I can tell you it was the best experience ever, fior you to expect an agency to reprimand one if the clients is utterly ridiculous, don't know what program your from but I certainly hope it'd nit in social services where you need a caring and understanding heart. Your post is a defamation and if I were rygiel.id be taking this to thier lawyer"

Are you insinuating that due to the fact that a person is your client, that means you shouldn't bother if they say or do things they shouldn't? Are you in it just for the money? What does being in social services or not have to do with how a person is treated on the job site. It could be working for a recycling plant or a fast food joint. Everyone is supposed to be treated the same.

"You clearly shouldn't be in this field, deranged and a very self righteous person who.calls out someone with a disability. You should be ashamed of yourself, i.will clearly state that rygiel us an awesome place to do.your coop or placement. I have recommended them tp.counless friends and they have the same experience as me, I'd love to see how many supporters you'd actually have bc I can bring at least 5 others with my experience."

What makes yoyomax incompetent of being in the field? Why is she deranged and very self righteous? Why is she not allowed to address a person with a disability? Would the first post be alright if it were a different company and there was no disability? Are you telling us all that if a person has a disability that means they are allowed to do what ever they want?

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A woman got raped by her boyfriend and she posted her horrible experience to make others aware. That woman would be allowed to discuss her rape. If the rape itself was false and she did talk about it while naming someone who was innocent, that alone could very well get her into trouble. **digusted one**, what you have to understand that if the allegations that yoyomax was alleging was true, it would have been better to just not comment and let it go. You clearly didn't address anything. You tried to puff up the company without making any effort to resolve it. If your own co-worker (because I feel you work for Rygiel 100 percent) **I_work_here** is validating what may have took place, why not come on this forum and try and resolve it? What you did was brush the situation under the carpet and try to make yoyomax look like a villain. You didn't address the situation at all. I think we all need an explanation as to why that was allowed if in deed it did happen. What are you thoughts?

Yoyomax, did you graduate? What was the feedback and outcome? Did it affect your grade? Did you receive your certificate or diploma? Update please!

Are any of you posters familiar with the Human Rights Tribunal? I think you all should really take a look at the website. It clearly states "The Code states that every person has a right to equal treatment with respect to employment without discrimination or harassment because of race, ancestry, place of origin, colour, ethnic origin, citizenship, creed, sex, sexual orientation, age, record of offences, marital status, family status or disability.

The right to “equal treatment with respect to employment” covers every aspect of the workplace environment and employment relationship, including job applications, recruitment, training, transfers, promotions, apprenticeship terms, dismissal and layoffs. It also covers rate of pay, overtime, hours of work, holidays, benefits, shift work, discipline and performance evaluations"

So you see, everyone is supposed to be treated the same. Because B has a disability and she is working, she legally has to be treated like how every other employee is treated. ohhh and question, why is B your client and employee? Talk about conflict of interest. lol. It's true though, to work with people that have issues, a kind caring heart is needed. We all have rights either way right? in future, lets hope you all can get along. Good night. lol

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I_work_here
Welland, CA
May 06, 2015 11:31 am EDT
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Yoyomax sent me a direct messege which I posted and I posted it only because rygiel and everyone has the right to see a response. In future going forward @yoyomax, please post yourself. There was lots of talk about this whole thing in the office and a lot of 'who is working here and posting against the company'. I don't want to lose my job but again, everyone has the right to see it. Im not sure if the mods will allow it and post it.

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I_work_here
Welland, CA
May 06, 2015 11:21 am EDT
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As I stated before...be careful doing placement with this company. You see clearly how the situation was avioded and then went on the attack name calling me? They went to the now defunct everest to complain about this post. I had to protect myself because I didnt need any ppl accusing me of things I didnt do. I tried to resolve it...rygiel failed to return a simple phone call. If you would like to sue me for saying the truth of what happened to me, fine. Also sue your staff for breach of confidentiality. This is what happened to me. This is my opinion. Your own staff posted about B and what she does. The only people who should be ashamed of themselves is you @disgustedone aka rygiel for allowing ppl to walk on eggshells so b can continue what she does. I think its a human right to feel at ease going to work. I dont care if your staff dont talk to me anymore either. The truth is the truth. It hurts most times but it is the truth. If you want to reply you can but I wont bother anymore. Good luck with allowing harassment, slander, and stress caused by one person whom you cannot say 'stop' to.

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crystaldarlington
Scarborough (Toronto), CA
Jan 18, 2015 6:16 pm EST

Just out of curiosity @disqustedone,

If my father was with your agency and I had issues and felt it wasn't resolved and posted a review, is this how you would talk to me? When I was in UK, I was a carer. that's like a health care aide or personal attendant here. A lot of the times, clients knew that they could do whatever because we were there to serve their every need. if there is a complaint and we took it up with the office, it went unanswered at first because the office wanted the money. but all it took was one person to file suit about stress and distress at work and the conditions that were apparent . after that, many others jumped on the money wagon. before i left and came here, a lot changed. if something was taken up with the office, it got dealt with. if the person was in a wheelchair, or non verbal but able to walk, they were talked to. example..."so and so...no hitting, no biting, no swearing". or i remember one time there was a gentleman who couldn't talk but if we were sitting beside him eating lunch or something he would swing his arms over the table knocking the food down. Someone from the office came down and read him the rules and basically told him that things like that couldn't happen. he wasn't able to talk but was able to hear. sometimes the office spoke with the family and let them know what was happening and the family would talk to them. have you seen the show kitchen nightmares? there was a company Amy's Baking Company. a yelper posted a bad review and the owners of the shop went on a rampage verbally attacking anyone who had someone negative to say. it cause major reactions within the community and even made it onto the news. if the owners said something like "we're sorry you had this experience but do hope you give up another chance", people would think, ok they made mistakes. they're trying to address it and said it won't happen again. let's try again. if i order a pizza and the store got the order wrong, they would replace the order, not scream at me. maybe taking a different approach would have helped eased the situation some. to me maybe the person who posted this complaint was justified in posting? i mean, look at your reaction lol. there was no attempted to fix things but you started going off and name called and all that. doesn't look so professional. but not my issue. i was a carer so i do know what it was like to be treated badly.

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phil.em
Scarborough (Toronto), CA
Jan 01, 2015 10:10 pm EST
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I was actually going to post about Ryerson and when I clicked RY and pressed enter, this came up. It's a fascinating post I must say. Let me start by saying that I sympathise with the posters. When it comes to defamation, this can be quite tricky. If it can be proved that the first poster did in fact go through these things, and her teacher was asked to sit down and hear stories that were not true that can be defamation/slander. That's because the co-ordinator was aware that it would be anything but the truth, but still let the person in the wheelchair sit down and tell lies in order to get the teacher's opinion of the student changed. That can be defamation. If it can be proven that those things did not happen and the first poster is just posting out of spite, then that can be defamation/slander also. BUT BUT BUT. If other people do support her and say they have had issues or have heard that the person in the wheelchair in fact has a history of spreading false accusations, then the company has nothing to fall back on.

I go to Target a lot. And walmart. They have many people with disabilities who work there. Let's just say there was a person in a wheelchair or had a visible disability. That same person would welcome in customers and be friendly, then start bashing the store to them. What would management do? Would they act like nothing happened and tell customers not to mind the disabled person? Disabled or not I'm pretty sure the store manager would remove the person from that type of role and place them in the back stocking or something like that. That's what any competent store manager would do. Allowing them to stay at the front knowing that they would be talking rubbish is not likely going to happen. So in this case, I can see where the first poster is coming from.

I'm not sure if these things did happen but reading the post, the first poster said that she made two phone calls. Were there any returned phone calls? Does the first poster have proof of calling both people? The key thing here is proof. When it comes to Rygiel, is this an isolated incident? Or has this type of thing happened before? If so, how was it resolved? Did Rygiel take the necessary measures to make sure that these types of things won't happen again? If in fact the person in the wheel chair has a history of things like this, why would they be working around customers?

The second poster seems to be really shaken up by this post. In my opinion, all parties should sit down and discuss the matter and find out how to find a resolution. I don't see anyone being called out really, unless it didn't happen. That I don't know. Could be, couldn't be. Either way, very interesting post. Any company who would let things like this happen shouldn't be in business which is why I'm still wondering if this is possible. I have never heard of a company ignoring things like this. At the end of the day, if no one has proof, it turns into he said she said. Court is a waste of time. I don't think it's so much about having supports to back up that the company being good or not. It's all about proof. If the first poster has proof, 5 or 55 supporters wouldn't really matter.

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I_work_here
Welland, CA
Dec 31, 2014 7:24 pm EST
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I just heard about this and I need to say something. I agree with both posters. I work at Rygiel. It's a great place to work. It truly is. I agree with the second poster because I know most of the people in the office. They are good people. I also agree with the original poster. "B" whom I assume is B****A is a very interesting person. I help with exercises and hot coal massages . I won't say how long I've been working there only because I want to keep my job, but in all honestly, we all know how B is. I was there last month when a former staff member was moving. It was her last day. She gave her notice and told almost everyone she was moving. B came to the back. We just wrapped up and were waiting for the last two clients to leave via the Dart Bus. B said that the staff member was fired because of bad behaviour. She wasn't fired! lol. She moved to Niagara falls with her husband. B has also come back and spoke of a staff member in the office stating that she is a thief and goes from cubicle to cubicle stealing. I was also there when that whole big drama thing happened when B accused someone of hitting her. That person almost lost her job, but B confessed that it was a lie. I'm not sure if anyone really lost a job because of her, but it was a rumor that people, not a person have lost jobs because of her. Both posters are right. I can see where they are both coming from. However, B is VERY close with people in the office and that is most likely why she does get away with a lot. True enough, B is in a wheelchair, but she is very aware of what she is doing. No one really wants to say much to her because we don't know what she will say. That is a problem. If B is around, we all know to stop talking about what we were talking about and quickly change the subject because she will stare and try to read our lips. I'm not taking any sides. But many people are in wheelchairs. They shouldn't be treated any differently. If they are able to work, they are able to be told right from wrong. Reprimanding, maybe not. But being told to stop bad behaviour, yes. Now, I don't know what goes on outside of the office, but I know what goes on when B comes to the back. I do think the original poster is very upset ( I would be too!) and I also think the second poster is someone in the office who is taking offence (Which is what she or he should do. She or he is passionate about their job.) What both posters need to do is look at the other person's situation. Not everyone will have the same experience. I have had no issues with anyone, but I've been there when some things have happened. Does that mean people shouldn't go to Rygiel? no. But do they have the right to know what may or may not go on? Yes. People give reviews about everything.

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disqustedone
Hamilton, CA
Dec 31, 2014 5:32 pm EST

You clearly shouldn't be in this field, deranged and a very self righteous person who.calls out someone with a disability. You should be ashamed of yourself, i.will clearly state that rygiel us an awesome place to do.your coop or placement. I have recommended them tp.counless friends and they have the same experience as me, I'd love to see how many supporters you'd actually have bc I can bring at least 5 others with my experience.

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disqusted one
Hamilton, CA
Dec 31, 2014 3:30 pm EST

I worked at rygiel and with the volunteer coordinator and I can tell you it was the best experience ever, fior you to expect an agency to reprimand one if the clients is utterly ridiculous, don't know what program your from but I certainly hope it'd nit in social services where you need a caring and understanding heart. Your post is a defamation and if I were rygiel.id be taking this to thier lawyer

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