Pentagon Federal Credit Union reviews and complaints
Fair housing act violation/ heloc
Legal categories:
Mortgage, Bank Loan, Pentagon Federal Credit Union
Lender Manager: Amy Hermes
Work Phone: [protected]
Case Summary:
On October 16. 2023 I applied for a Home Equity loan of $45,000. Monthly payments would come out to $100 a month. My credit score & proof of income got approved. I went through the whole process for a month to submit all the legal documents they requested. On November 8, 2023, I was told to pay their
appraiser a $580 fee. On November 20.2023 I got an email from the processor telling me I didn't qualify anymore due to me being on Paid Family Leave. I informed them that was considered discrimination because it violates the Fair Housing Act and they said to contact their Legal Department. The name of this bank is Pentagon Federal Credit Union. If I knew I wouldn't qualify I would never have gone through this whole process for a whole month especially since I paid a $580 fee for nothing while getting my credit checked.
The current market
value of the property is:
$590,000
The approximate
amount owed on the
property is:
$449,098
Country of complaint: United States
Claimed loss: A month of processing paperwork & documents. $580 appraisal fee after being told I qualified, Fair Housing Act violation for denying loan while being on Paid Family leave.
Desired outcome: $140,000 for Discrimination
The debit card for my checking account
I have been trying to resolve an issue with my debit card since 27 October 2023. As of today the issue remains. I need to changey email and phone number, pfcu advises you to go to this sight and do this, I've sent my documents about 8 times, and every time there is something wrong with the upload. As recently as yesterday I was told it was my id, so I...
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PENN FED IS THE WORST!
I have attempted to have my CD closed out, with a Penalty for two weeks,vwith numerous phone calls. Every single time I call to have MY MONEY transferred to my Credit Union, I am told excuses & blatant lies. I was advised to call back yesterday to have my money transferred. I called today & was told to wait another 48 hours & to call back for a $25.00 wire transfer charge. So, now snail mail will need to take over so Penn FED does not take any more of my time & money.
Country of complaint: United States
Desired outcome: DO NOT OPEN A CD WITH PEN FED.TERRIBLE WAIT TIMES FOR MY MONEY. STILL WAITING FOR C A RESOLUTION. 😒
Refinancing car loan. Think twice before signing up with them.
Pentagon Federal Credit Union offered me a slightly better interest rate for an existing new car loan. I would save about 1000 $. Now, the application was done online and was quickly approved. The problems began later, in couple of month when I've received a letter from them demanding a bunch of additional paperwork and mainly the title with lean holder...
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I have over 25 years of investing experience and secured over 40 loans from 20 banks other than PenFed. I have never witnessed such incompetence, never experienced such a lack of basic communication and never received such abismal treatment as I did with this company. The following are some warning highlights based on my personal experience. Failure to head them MAY cause severe financial upheaval as well as destroy your ability to buy your dream-home...
1. The Loan Officer, Venessa Mendez was quick to run my credit and "lock in" a low rate based on my high score but had no working knowledge of how to calculate self-employment income. She ignored my suggestion to wait until my 2021 taxes were filed which was a severe mistake. She argued and became irritated when a manager was requested.
2. I lodged a complaint with corporate and was contacted by Home Loan Operations Manager Chris Saminski who referred me to the Manager, Consumer Direct Mortgage Loan Officers Jennifer Struve. J. Struve displayed the same lack of understanding of Fannie Mae guidelines and although I again suggested waiting for my higher income 2021 returns insisted that she "go ahead and send 2019 and 2020 over to underwriting to see what they say". Horrible advice especially from someone managing the loan officers.
3. I started with 5 weeks to close requesting that PenFed inform me asap if there would be any issue with securing the loan. They squandered 3 weeks before declining the loan making it impossible to start over with another bank.
4. While this travesty could have been avoided on the FIRST phone call had the Loan Officer possessed even a basic level of training regarding self-employment income, it CERTAINLY should have been handled correctly at the management level which was NOT the case.
5. Both individual operated under the FALSE assumption that Fannie Mae would accept a 24 month averaging of income. However, when income declines from one year to the next they ONLY accept an averaging of the most recent 12 months. Had they headed my suggestion and I submitted my 2021 taxes I would likely not be issuing this warning.
I will soon be closing my accounts with Pentagon Federal and will invest in an organization I deem to be competent and who values their clients enough to listen and respond effectively.
Country of complaint: United States
Website: penfed.org
Personal loan
I applied for and was approved for a personal loan on 1/17/2021. Today is 3/8/21, still haven't received check in the mail - 1st payment is due tomorrow.
I have called them 16 times, each time on hold for over 30 minutes (today was an hour and 21 minutes - answered and put back on hold for an additional 22 minutes) and I still have no check and no one at this business who gives a crap.
Country of complaint: United States
Desired outcome: I want the check and to no have to pay until (if) I get it.
loan service
I want to share my experience with Pentagon Federal Credit Union to warn customers. After 6 months of losing docs, repeatedly changing closing dates, and bad customer service I finally told them never mind at the end of May 2017. I felt exhausted and upset dealing with Pentagon Federal Credit Union. I don’t have the time or patients to go through each situation but I just wanted to shed light so future customer can be prepared. I sent them an email directly explaining their mistakes and I encouraged them to check my recorded calls and email threads so they can investigate and make changes.
I want to start by giving you a little background information about my loan. My home is paid for and I have no current mortgage. I began this process in January 2017. I wanted to get a Mortgage Loan but I was unsure in the beginning if, I wanted to rent the home out and get a loan or keep it as my primary residence and get the loan. After consulting with a loan officer at Penfed, I decided to keep the residence as my primary home and get the loan. My first issue was the amount of time it took the bank to schedule the appraisal, it was too close to my closing date. They insisted that the closing date had to be changed and I was fine with that at the time.
I applied for my loan in January and in the beginning the agents seems to know what they were doing but as time went on, I could tell no body was sure about anything. Every time my closing date would be 2-5 days away, someone would call asking questions or needing further documentation, thus pushing out the closing date again. There where so many mistakes and mess up on their part I cannot keep track. I would receive calls stating they did not have documents that I had already sent, for example I sent my full statement for my personal loan which I have with another bank and someone called me to explain they did not have the account number for my personal loan or the terms of it. She said the documents I sent did not disclose that information I asked her to pull up the document on her computer which she did then I told her to look at the third page and everything was right on the page. Someone just did not read the statement or else they would have known they had everything then she went on to say she only needed another card statement I insisted as I usually did for her to check and make sure that’s all they needed from me. She said “that is all is stated, that we need at this time”. (She must not have checked before the call or on the phone when I asked her). Now, just to be clear if this was the 11th or 12th time I received this same sort of call. Simply things that no one seems to pay attention, but as expected I got another call, moving the closing date and asking for more docs.
The last time I called and was told I needed to get an new credit report and more docs I just wanted to explain my situation and ask that my recorded conversations with various employees be looked into so people can be trained properly, and the women on the phone kept interrupting, she would not answer my questions, and repeatedly wanted to remind me that I asked for my loan process to be on hold for about 1 week maybe 2 so I could confirm if I needed to have my husband on my title. The reason for this is due to the inaccurate information I received from Pentagon Federal Credit Union, I wanted to check with my lawyer and I needed to make an appointment to do so. She would not let me speak, she wanted to talk over me. she asked me to calm down I told her I apologies if I come off loud or upset I will calm down and I would like to speak with someone that is willing to listen because you’re not patient enough to deal with my issues. The women I could tell did not have the patients to deal with my many problems. I eventually told her No I will not be giving any more information, do not check my credit again I have decided to cancel the loan and I refuse to continue to go on and on with this bank. I also asked her to have someone contact me which she did and I thank her for that.
Overall my experience is just unacceptable. Thinking about the whole ordeal make me feel horrible and it upsets my stomach. I feel like I was lied to soo many times because I was told way to often “just one more thing” even when I insisted they check to make sure they don’t need anything else. The closing date changed way to many times, this all happened over a period of 6 months. After a while it came off as straight lies over and over again. I just finally decided that if I keep believing whatever someone from Pentagon Federal Credit Union tells me then I must be crazy. I really needed the loan but I finally accepted that there was no way for me to complete this with Pentagon Federal Credit Union no matter what they would tell me because it was all just LIES… I hope you can imagine how upset, and exhausted it was for me dealing with the process. What makes it even worst is up until mid-May I was still believing everything I was told “just one more thing we need” I even recommended the bank to 2 of my friends here on base and they set up accounts online. Now I just feel so bad for them, but I did warn them at this point and I would never recommend this bank again. Hopefully this will help future customers not suffer as I have in this whole process. I don’t normally complain I would just walk away and not look back but this was so bad for me I felt something had to be done for me to rest at night. The good thing is I know a lot now that I need to be aware of pertaining to loans that will help me moving forward in the process with another bank.
Country of complaint: United States
Address: Coaldale, Colorado
ZIP: 80129
Website: penfed.org
death escrow operations
My husband died Dec 15, 2012 and to close the account associated with him I had to wait until his company paid for his final leave balance, etc. Even though I was on his accounts, I went to court and was appointed his executor. Now PFCU has decided that before they will close out his accounts and move the money to my accounts they need to go back to his former company to ensure that the funds were actually his. That is not the purpose of the credit union, that is the responsibility of his probate lawyers and myself. They are denying me access to funds that are legally mine. Seniors be aware that PFCU will hold everything up illegally.
Company Business Name: Pentagon Federal Credit Union
Country of complaint: United States
Address: Virginia
The complaint has been investigated and resolved to the customer’s satisfaction.
Customer Service
The short version is that while these guys offer competitive rates, their customer service stinks. I've had better experiences at the Dept. of Motor Vehicles. If you actually need to speak with a live human being, be prepared to hold a very, very long time. If ever you actually do get to someone, be prepared to be treated like crap. If, by then, you're not satisfied with the answers you get and request to speak with a supervisor, be prepared to be put back on hold and start the process all over again with the pretty much the same dissappointing outcome. If I didn't know better, I'd think these guys were actually government employees with years of extensive training on how to treat people like dung beetles. Ironically, I put some of my hard earned money with these knuckleheads because a friend spoke so highly of their rates. When I told hime about my recent treatment frome them, he told me he had the same problem and closed his acct, too. I wish he'd told me that BEFORE I opened mine ... After this recent experience, I checked my local credit unions and found they offer rates at least as good or better, and I can walk in any of their local branches and actually get treated like my business is valued. Chalk it up to another lesson learned. I'm closing my account with these goofballs and bringing my money back to a local credit union.
Company Business Name: Pentagon Federal Credit Union
Country of complaint: United States
My wife and I want to express our disappointment, and moreover, deep dissatisfaction with how ill-treated we were by your Loan Office with respect processing a mortgage refinance loan. Based on past experience with PENFED we reasonably expected much better service especially given that we have been long term members. We can appreciate that lately the number of refinancing mortgages were more numerous than usual. Nevertheless its been over 7 months since we applied for a very small mortgage of now less that $100, 000 and then this week your staff asked for some additional documents notwithstanding all that we previously provided. This can hardly be attributed to our financial ability to cover the loan. Our Credit Score is above average and my income excellent.
I hold your Loan Officer and possibly the staff responsible for the inattention and unresponsiveness to our application including our queries about the delays. At best we received only vague rationalizations of why the delays although on at least one occasion a request for documents previously submitted.
In one phone call to Navy Federal we received better counseling and recommendations on mortgage options, as well as other alternatives to consider, than in the 7 months dealing with your Loan office's excuses.
Given the previous member's experience coupled with ours, it might be time to for PENFED Mortgage Loan Officers to receive better training including customer service. In the meantime Navy Federal is my 1st go-to Credit Union.
By the way, the ill-mannered and sarcastic tone of the above "Customer Service Rep's response to a very similar experience suggests their approach to being a Customer Service Representative needs correction.
There was a time when it was a pleasure dealing with PFCU; however, over the last couple of years thier custumer service has declined dramatically! At one time, all I had to do to open an IRA CD was to sent a detailed letter request to Alexandria, and the matter was completed pronto. No longer. Now members are required to download countless numbers of mightily confusing and complex forms that must be mailed to some sweat shop in Nebraska. Even with the forms, they seldom seem to get it right on the first try: I submitted forms in January to open a ROTH IRA CD and am still waiting for them to do this correctly. In my frustration, I submitted an on-line request on March 25 asking that my ROTH CD be implemented correctly: it's now March 30 and I haven't received a response except for the auto pilot "your satisfaction is important to us" canned response. The only transactions that currently function well with PFCU are ones that are strictly on-line transactions: Lord help you if you have to initiate business via mailed forms, electronic messaging, or, heaven help us, on the telephone. They've become a mess!
PenFed cancelled my credit card because 'my credit score dipped below their minimum values.' Mind you, I wasn't past due or late on my payments to PenFed - they just went ahead and did it anyway. Worst part is, once they cancel your credit card on you, they no longer allow you to pay your balance online - which means you have to do it the old fashioned way and mail them in a check. You can log into your account...you just can't pay your bill. Also, your account with them will sit at 100% of your available credit until it is fully paid off, which of course damages your credit score because you're using too much of your available credit! Which is probably why they cancelled me to begin with. I think they're a horrible, predatory lender. They are as bad as any of the big banks and seem to pride themselves on bait and switch schemes. At least, that's been my experience. Best stick to your local credit union down the street.
It has been quite a week with PenFed. I visited their branch in the Pentagon on Wednesday, and the short summation of the service experience is to say that they acted like I was an inconvenience. Two days later I get a letter from PenFed informing me they were going to cancel my credit card due to delinquency, a history of delinquency, exceeding my credit limit, and not using the card at all. None, except the not using a card I don't happen to have applied. I called customer service and talked with a helpful rep who told me that's just the form letter they send before they screw your credit rating, and by the way, all the things I asked for on Wednesday hadn't yet been acted on. All this to a 25 year member who had over $60, 000 deposited with PenFed. So, the unanswered question is, what is the deposit level over which they start treating customers with respect?
I am refinancing, and its been a nightmare dealing with PenFed! I'm stuck at this point, but its been a 3 month ordeal that has really left a bad taste in my mouth. The people "assigned" to me have made mistakes along the way, have horrible follow up, and take vacations without anyone taking over their workload-so you as a customer just have to wait. My short sale was easier than this. With so many companies offering re fi's-go somewhere other than Pen Fed!
There loan process sucks I had a 772 score and still was declined. I really wanted the lower refi rate of 1.99...
PenFed* (My mistake)
My fiance added money to his credit card that he has with them and didn't find out till today that he added it AFTER they cancelled the card. I'm going to be royally pissed if they don't give us that money back because we are moving to California in a couple of months and not only that but we have a baby on the way. PedFed sucks royal donkey dick if you ask me. They should have informed him that the card was cancelled. They STOLE $1, 000 from us...and the card had $985 on it already so it's not like they closed it because it was at $0 or anything.
Update:
Quote from my son's loan porocessor:
Good Afternoon Mr. Finney,
We apologize for the delayed response. I am going to be helping out your processor, Grace Logan, while she’s out on emergency leave. Attach is a copy of your appraisal report. The value came in at $xxx, 000. The estimated amount of funds require at closing is around $ xxx. You can either bring the estimated amount of funds to closing or we can increase your loan amount to include that amount. Please let me know what you would like to do.
End Quote
Apparently his loan processor had a death in the family and the ball was not passed for over two weeks... The new processor is on it now, but know if you get the wrong processor or run into a problem, it will be very difficukt to move up the CSR chian to someone who will be able to help you. My condolences to Ms. Logan and family.
I'm not sure what is going one with PenFed, but it is not good, My son is trying to take advantage of a refi special they ran last month and is in the loan process now. I e-mailed his loan processor and asked if I could get in on the same deal. I received no answer for three days and when my son followed up on his loan with her, I had him ask for me. Needless to say it was too late for me to get the fixed rate-no closing cost deal. PenFed's rates were/are still better than most, so I went ahead and applied for a refi loan anyway. They sent out our Experian credit score report right away - 801 & 799. Anyway, as I said, I'm still in the process of helping my son with his loan. Well he had his house appraised more than two weeks ago now and we have repeatedly called and e-mailed for updates on his loan. I have helped him scan and e-mail every document they have asked for so far, but I can't get anyone to respond to our request for information on his loan. Well, I've certainly taken note of how my son has been treated and I have since cancelled my loan application with them agreeing to pay any fees. PenFed is certainly the loser here as I have since retained a mortgage broker who got me the same rate with better terms as the lender is willing to pay some of my closing costs. I will close next week and I've only been in the loan process for a week and he answers the phone when I call. Before the naysayers get on the bandwagon here, let me say I have my BSBA (Magna Cum Lausde) in business and I'm a licensed real estate broker in two states. I know contracts better than 95% of the public. That reminds me, I actually received two GFEs from PenFed, one for fixed rate, and one for variable; the variable rate was supposed to cover all of the closing costs, but I noticed the closing fees were much smaller on the variable rate because PenFed used a smaller escrow amount. I also noticed on the fixed rate, that the loan amount was less than what was asked for... Now here's the kicker, as I say we've been requesting information for two weeks now and when I went looking for someone to complain to, I got lost in the electronic world of "HOLD" only to be repeatedly disconnected. Next, I went looking for licensing bureaus to file a complaint against the agent or PenFed and have thus far been unsucessful finding a licensing board for their mortgage agents. PenFed, take note, your lack of customer service has cost you new business (my 1st mortgage with bac) and existing business (my 2nd which is currently with PenFed) as I have now taken my business elsewhere. If my son's situation continues to remain unresolved, I will suggest to him to do the same. As an aside, mortgage broker's do not make you pay $65 to apply for a mortgage and bombard you with warnings that you will be responsible for expenses should the loan not close. I guess that should have been my first clue, but I suppose the fees may be PenFed's answer to its sure to be anemic revenue stream. I apologize for the rant; hopefully, you will not have the same experience...