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Paradise Canyon Vacation Tele marketer's head stuck in toilet seat

Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- Tele marketer's head stuck in toilet seat

Firefighters Manitoba came to the rescue of a tele marketer who had a toilet seat stuck on his head.

The worker, aged 18 and a half, and his worried supervisor went to Winnipeg fire station after she

was unable to get the toilet seat off his head.

Firefighter said: "We put some dish washing liquid on his head and ears and it slid off nice as pie.

"The tele marketer was very brave and didn't make a fuss and once we had got the seat off he toddled

away as happy as can be."

The fireman added: "The tele marketer had put his head through it and couldn't get it out again,

he came in here wearing it like a collar.

"His supervisor had tried to get it over his head but couldn't budge it so she walked him down here

and asked us to have a look at it and we went to work and we managed to get it off in no time."

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Update by sticky_shift_in_hand1
Oct 20, 2011 11:10 pm EDT

Paradise Canyon vacation Scam

- Toilet Water Cleaner Than Fountain

Winnipeg, Manitoba A Paradise Canyon Vacation call centre employee had a hunch

something was amiss with the company's drinking fountain water. And right he was.

For the sake of his curiosity, he tested the bacteria content at four water fountains

and one toilet to challenge a ban on workers from bringing bottled water to work.

It seems some supervisors were using it to sneak in alcohol.

Guess which was cleaner? It wasn't the water fountains.

He then asked workers where they would prefer to get their water.

That wasn't the fountains, either.

The manager, supervisors and co workers said they had no idea.

Katherine the evening supervisor used Q-tips and petri dishes, swabbing the spigots of four

fountains and sampling one toilet, dunking the cotton in the bowl's center and then dragging

it around the rim for a complete sample.

She took the results to the lab put them under a light to speed up the bacteria's growth.

The petri dishes with fountain water were swarming with bacteria. The sample from the toilet was

clean, probably because the toilets are doused with cleansing chemicals daily.

"I wanted to see the looks on their faces, " Katherine said.

Either allow water bottles back, Katherine urged, or install "down- pour" systems used in office water coolers.

She took her results to the Board of Directors with an eye-opening PowerPoint presentation.

Administrators quickly replaced the spigots and casing at three of the water fountains and custodians gave them

all a thorough cleaning.

More call centres are providing water in lunch rooms now, but the ban on water bottles remains.

"It was a great lesson. We don't always see things in and about the company that are in need of repair,

" said a co worker, adding, "You'd be surprised how

Update by sticky_shift_in_hand1
Oct 20, 2011 11:06 pm EDT

Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- Abducted by a toilet

97 year old Woman freed after being trapped on lavatory for a week

A Winnipeg tele marketer woman from Paradise canyon Vacation call center has been rescued
after she fell into her lavatory and was trapped there for a week.

The Winnipeg woman employee at the Winpeg Paradise Canyon vacation call center,
who has not been named, was only found by the emergency services after
a co worker heard her cries for help.

When an ambulance arrived paramedics found her stuck on the lavatory
and unable to get out. She was dehydrated but otherwise unharmed,
despite having spent seven days wedged in the same position.

Reports said the woman, aged 97, was found in the evening on Sunday and had
become stuck the previous Sunday evening.

Eventually she was freed when emergency services broke into the call center office
through a back door and found her in the womans bathroom.

"The lady was manoeuvred to one side to free her. The door swings inwards and she had
her feet wedged on either side of the lavatory, " a Department of Community Services
spokesman said.

"She was very dehydrated but she was conscious."
A co worker said the woman told him she had been there since 6pm on Sunday.
"To me that meant that evening but she meant last Sunday.
" The co worker had not become concerned earlier because
it was normal to not see the woman or any other tele marketers
taking any calls during the week, he said.
"I'd never even seen her dialing any calls, " he said "but we still
got paid just the same"

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samantha
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Dec 19, 2011 11:47 am EST

We work at Paradise Canyon Vacation and it is not a good place to work
Gaga get your brown nose out of Noel and Dave's ###, and tell people
how you purchased a stolen laptop for $100, and when a co worker asked
Noel the one you are slandering asked Noel aout Loren selling stolen
xbox games Noel said it was ok as long as employees got good prices,
Gaga you like to buy stolen laptops and stolen xbox games, and movies
at work and then go slander employees trying to tell the truth, how much
did Noel pay you to slander this eemployee, Gaga we sat next to this Mike,
he broguht fresh clothes everyday to change to work, there was never
no smell whats so ever, the only thing that smelled Gaga was your
feast infection brewing in your panties, thats what all the men were
whispering about the smell of yeast brewing in your panties you skank.
Noel posted the malicious mean lying post against our cousin posing
as "Gaga" aka Sega on scam.com an ex female employee who says she
worked for Paradise Canyon Vacation call center for 3 months, yet
funny doesn't leave her real name; a real ex employee would not be
afraid to leave their real name, Gaga aka Sega is a 250 pound female
from Trinadad and Tobago who used to come in to work in tight clothes
trying to hide her fat pretending to be Kim Kardashian or a model
wanna be, this post is either Noel or someone he paid to go online.
Yes Paradise Canyon Vacation is $10, 000 to $15, 000 to join which they
don’t tell you until the salesman arrives at your
house, completely contradictory from what is said at the free
presentations. It is $3, 500 down non refundable and $40 t0 $60 per
month for 20 years and let’s not forget the lengthy contract you have
to sign. Noel was aware for years about stolen Xbox, play station and
pc games and movies being sold by Loren and stolen sports jerseys by
Rob valued at $200 selling for $40 to $60, when approached about the
stolen DVDs and Xbox games he said it was ok as long as employees
get good prices. Now what kind of business allows for stolen goods
to be sold on company property. As for the employees, yes there are
very rich people including government employees, including Ozzie an
MTS, Winnipeg Osbourne sales rep, whose been buying Robs sports
jerseys at the rate of 1 per week, and Dave his right hand man who
sometimes uses his left is one of Loren’s biggest customers. Whatever
Noel said about our cousin is all lies to protect Paradise Canyon
Vacation, check out trip advisor to read the truth about Paradise
Canyon Vacation. Noel is now paying his employees to protect his sales.
Noel impersonating as "Gaga" aka Sega on scam.com calls people mental
yet he approves of stolen goods in the call centre. and calling people
losers when Noel fires his own Filipino people, he is supposed to look
after his own people not crap on them. All Noel has written or has paid
one so called "Gaga" aka Sega to write is all lies. The truth is Noel
tried to steal our cousin’s antivirus which he lent Noel for one night
because Noel asked to use it, for 3 weeks Noel said he was too busy or
"I didn't get around to it" then our cousin asked Dave his assistant
or Noel's right hand man who sometimes uses his left to please ask for
it back, since then Noel has treated our cousin like crap, and eventually
fired him all because he asked for his software back, then he accused our
cousin of writing things on line and told our cousin that the police
will be waiting at his home when he gets home, this was all threats and
lies, the police station was not aware and said the internet was free
freedom of speech. Paradise canyon Vacation is like a revolving door
employees come and go every day, hundreds if not thousands of employees
have quit from that call centre. Noel I'm sure has fired thousands of
people, yet he blames our cousin all because he asked for his software
back, and because he didn't let Noel intimidate him by trying to steal
his software. Noel even calls the police on employees, a scare tactic.
Is this the kind of company you want your want one of your friends or
family members working for. This employee who wrote the blog is more
than likely Noel himself posing a "Gaga" aka Sega a past female
employee to slander our cousin and try to protect his sales. Now another
ex employee Abby, who is working for The Minor Volleyball Association in
Winnipeg tells us how Noel is getting Dave to do his dirty work for him,
Dave is Noel's right hand man who sometimes uses his left wants to go to
our cousins house, not enough 3 harassing phone calls during supper time,
seems they love to harass people during supper. What is next harass ex
employees at their jobs, Dave just worry about harassing callers and use
your scare tactics on them to make them cough up $10, 000 to $15, 000 for
your travel memberships which your tele marketers lie and say is free
till the salesman arrives at their homes.

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stick1
Lethbridge, CA
Oct 20, 2011 2:32 am EDT

19-Paradise Canyon Scam - Gaga has crabs or is that dinner for 2

Now that the truth comes out about Paradise Canyon Vacation employees selling
stolen xbox, playstation pc games and blu ray movies, the employees like gaga
come out of the wood word to protect their jobs, Gaga you can go and eat the
### out of Paradise Canyon toilets call centre, because your a piece of ###
like the rest of them, I sat next to this person your trying to slander and he
was a perfect gentleman, and even though he rode to work, he changed his clothes
and brought spare clothes, as for mental the only mental people is you for protecting
Paradise Canyon Vacation it's funny Gaga how you didnt mention the stolen sports
jerseys and stolen xbox games and blu ray movies and when our cousin's bike seat
was stolen he mentioned to Noel about Loren selling stolen movies and xbox games
and Noel the manager told our cousin it was ok as long as employees got good
prices, gaga why did you leave out employees selling and buying stolen goods Gaga
how much did Noel pay you to slander our cousin, or is Gaga really Noel impersonating
an employee to try and save his company and sales Gaga you can lick my ### and let
me crap in your mouth, look at you trying to scam innocent people out of $10, 000
dollars, next time your on the phone, just tell the truth and tell the people its
$3, 500 down not refundable, and $50 a month for 20 years oh and don't forgot the
lengthy contract they got to sign, when you can do this, then you can talk ### about
people, till then keep licking the urinals at Paradise Canyon Vacation call centre.
You didnt quit gaga Noel fired your ### because you couldnt produce bookings, and Gaga
those ants in the ladies bathroom floor, those are not ants, those were your crabs, were
those crabs the free dinner for two you were offering callers on the phone to attend the
free presentation, Gaga go see a doctor you skank.

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stick1
Lethbridge, CA
Oct 20, 2011 2:26 am EDT

7-Paradise canyon Scam - A few good men

All it takes is a few people to let others know about the
corruption, lies and greed of big powerful money hungry
corporations. Using underpaid tele marketers to try and
rob the innocent of thousands with promises of free gifts
and vacations. Like the Justice League it is a never ending
battle for as soon as one villan is taken down another appears.
Paradise Canyon Vacation for years has been under paying employees
and using scare tactics like calling the police to protect it's
sales. They don't want callers to know that the membership is
$10, 000 to $15, 000 till the salesman arrives at thier home.
These posts were written by jilted employees and people who were
scammed by paradise canyon vacation to help and warn others
not to fall in the same misfortune.

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stick1
Lethbridge, CA
Oct 20, 2011 2:27 am EDT

10-Paradise Canyon Scam - Bring your own toilet paper

I worked for the call centre at Paradise Canyon vacation
in winnipeg, every week Noel would bring us in the
presentation room and threaten us if we didn't do better
he would "clean house" and fire us. If you saw the bathrooms
you would take getting fired as a blessing. The bathroom
floors were never mopped, Noel would just dump 20 gallons
of water on the floors and there would be 2 inches of water
on the floors, until it dried. Then we had the ants crawling
all over the bathroom floors, rumour has it that they were
Gaga's crabs, the girl who slanders employees on scam.com,
complaining of smell when in fact the smell was coming from
her own yeast infection. The garbage pails were always full
of employees garbage and doughnuts, that would explain all
the ants, the garbage was emptied a good once a month, the
garbage was always 2 feet over the small garbage pails. As
for the bathrooms there was hardly ever any toilet paper,
the employees were using the toilet paper to dry their
hands since the paper towel dispensers were always empty.
If you have to go to the bathroom for a crap you had better
remember to bring your own toilet paper from home.

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sa1mantha_fox
, CA
Oct 19, 2011 5:27 pm EDT

26-Paradise Canyon Scam - I need a hero

Don't we all wish that there was someone who could make
Paradise canyon vacation stop calling during supper so
we can enjoy our dinners. We need a hero especially during
Hockey Night In canada when those pesky Paradise Canyon
Vacation tele marketers just won't stop dialing our numbers
on Sunday night. It's gonna take a superman to flew down to
that Winnipeg call centre and disconnect all those phone
lines.

Paradise Canyon Scam - Justice League

By now you probably realized that a group of men and women in
spandex tights are trying to take down the Cold Warriors a group
of ice themed super villians salesmen and tele marketers working
under Paradise Canyon Vacation, and in so doing making people
aware what is going inside Paradise Canyon Vacation with the
inside scoop, and what really happens at the presentations,
with testimonials from people who have been scammed. The
management of paradise Canyon Vacation don't want you the public
to know, that the membership fee is actually $10, 000 to $15, 000
with $3, 500 down non refundable and $40 to $60 a month for 20
years.They have tele markers call you and swear till they are blue
in the face that the presentation is free and that you cant buy
nothing and leave your money at home. This is all a scam the same
scam used by tele solutions when selling magazines, they will call
and tell you 'im not calling to sell you anything" but then pass
you on to their supervisor who will try and scam you for over $1000
in magazines. "i'm not calling to sell you anything", that is
because someone else will. They wont sell you nothing at the
presentation because Paradise Canyon Vacation sales people will come
to your home. Noel the manager even brags how good they are at
ripping peoeple off, and claims that they can get 9/10 people to fork
over $10, 000. This is a scam, the tele markers should tell the people
"we are calling to sell you a $10, 000 membership", and not lie. As for
the free gifts, you dont get those till after you filled out forms with
your information, and then wait 2-3 weeks in the mail, from what I
heard many people have told the tele marketers that they did not receive
the free gifts. Just like telesolutions who will not send you their $5
watch so described by JD the room manager, which they claim is a $650
diamond watch just so you will pay the $1, 000 magazine fee. The watch
arrives after 2 weeks because you only have 10 days to cancell your credit
card payment. Paradise canyon Vacation will also give you a $1, 000 gift
voucher towards the $10, 000 to $15, 000 membership. There are too many
services all around for free and you can get the same prices and even lower
and better if you just shop around. You work too hard for your money to let
travel companies and magazine publishers rip you off.

Together we can make people more aware with knowledge and knowing is
the first part of winning any battle, we have compiled a list of
informative blogs from people who have been called, tele marketers and
members who have been scammed. Paradise canyon Vacation is fighting back
by sending out their dragons to take down our blogs, so please help
us and spread the word, they mostly call people in British Columbia,
Alberta. Manitoba and soon trying to Scam Ontario, calls are in the
evenings. For your entertainment you can check out these pictures
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Paradise canyon Scam - Justice League Assemble

It seems that the Knights Of Paradise have joined forces with
the Justice League and not only do they have to deal with the
dragon Paradise Canyon Vacation, but now has a team they have to
contend with its cousin the 3 headed hydra scam.com. This 3 headed
hydra scam.com is working very closely with Paradise canyon vacation
to take down man, woman or child who dare to venture and post
anything negative about Paradise Canyon Vacation, all posts against
the dragon Paradise canyon Vacation have been removed, all but
one post slandering and hurting innocent employees with malicious
lies. Scam.com is supposed to protect people from scam corporations
out there who lie and rip people off, and not to slander innocent
employees. We need your help to take down the dragon and the hydra,
please if you see any scam links about Paradise Canyon Vacation send
the links to all your knights, fair maidens, friends and family,
together we can slay the dragon and his cousin the hydra and help
people so they dont get scammed $10, 000 to $15, 000 for a travel
membership which is $3, 500 down non refundable, and imprisonment
in a dark dungeon for 20 years till the $40 to $60 a month has been
paid in full.

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Paradise Canyon Scam - Justice League Reassemble

The knights of paradise along with the Justice Leage
shall not stop till they take down the walls of Rod
and Noel's tele marketing castle and break the
shackles and free all the enslaved tele marketers,
even the rich governement social workers like Darcy
and Ms Soldier, they will not even leave behind shady
crooked MTS employees like Ozzie who has been buying
stolen sports jerseys from Rob, they will even break
the shackles and free Loren who has been selling
stolen xbox, playstaion, pc games and blu ray
movies. But they will leave Noel in chains to rot in
the dungeon, for when he was approached about Loren
selling stolen xbox games, he said it ok as long as
employees got got prices, joining Noel to rot and
shackled will be his right hand man Dave who sometimes
uses his left, who is also Loren's biggest customer.
It seems that the dragon Paradise Canyon Vacation and
its cousin the 3 headed hydra scam.com have joined forces
with Cerebus the 3 headed guard dog of Hades aka Complaints
Board.com, which is now guarding the gates and not allowing
people to post anything negative about Paradise Canyon vacation.
All posts get a message saying that it will first be reviewed
by the administrator and then never gets posted, seldom do you
]see the message "Your complaint has been added successfully!",
Please warn everyone you know, the memebership fee is $10, 000
to $15, 000, with $3, 500 non refundable and $40 to $60 a month
for 20 years. They won't tell you this at the presentation,
only when the salesman arrives at your home witht he lengthy
contract to sign. Help us in our struggle against the Dragon,
hydra and now Cerebus aka complaintsboard.com, For your
entertainment you can check out these pictures at
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sticky_shift_in_hwand1
, CA
Oct 22, 2011 3:54 am EDT

63-Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- The Wizard of Ozzie Osbourne

Paradise Canyon Vacation has an MTS employee, from the Osbourne call centre location in Winnipeg who calls himself Ozzie, a tall skinny black anorexic man who is making $20 an hour, and his girlfriend $35 an hour and who bought a new home, so he brags at the Paradise canyon Vacation Call Centre, yet he comes to Paradise Canyon for minimum wage to rip off people for $10, 000, this is evil greed $55 an hour between them both and he needs to come rip off innocent people and lie to them, we believe that Noel is paying Ozzie under the table because on several occasions we have seen Noel give Ozzie several $20, Ozzie claims that it’s his pay and that he has no bus money to get home, really he's making $20 an hour from MTS and his girlfriend $35 working with x-rays and Ozzie has no bus money to get home, maybe if Ozzie wouldn't buy so many stolen NBA and hockey jerseys from Rob, Ozzie may just have bus money to get home. Rob has been selling stolen sports jerseys at peg all on company time and property call centre for years, but since Ozzie has arrived business has been booming, and what does Noel say about all this, when Noel was approached about Loren selling stolen Xbox, play station pc games and blue ray movies, Noel the manager said it was ok as long as employees get good prices. When MTS was called they said that they didn't care what their employees did off company time, and no supervisor even called back. Yet MTS wants us to give our personal information to their employees buying stolen sports jerseys at the rate of 1 per week. Now you know where your money goes when you pay your MTS bill it goes to employees like Ozzie buying stolen sports jerseys so how can you trust a company who hires shady MTS employees and people selling stolen sports jerseys, and not to mention Loren selling his stolen Xbox, play station pc games and blue ray movies so when you join Paradise Canyon Vacation and pay $10, 000 membership fee, now you know where your money is going, membership does have its privileges but only for employees of Paradise Canyon Vacation call center.

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dave77
Vancouver, CA
Nov 05, 2011 5:36 am EDT

100 things Noel don't want you to know about Paradise Canyon Vacation

A to C

Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- $10, 000 for a travel membership!

This Travel Company which claims is not a timeshare, but is charging
$10, 000 to $15, 000 for membership privileges for reduced travel
services which you can find just as cheap or cheaper if you
shop around. Cost is $3, 500 down not refundable and $40 t0 $60
per month for 20 years. There was one call a tele marketer was
saying that a lady refused to sign the contract, don't we all just
love to sign 20 year contracts and another time Noel the manager
was explaining to a tele marketer that Paradise Canyon Vacation
is like a bank and will finance the $10, 000 to $15, 000 membership
fee like a bank loan buying a car. You are getting nothing but a
membership that is all, you still have to pay for any travel expenses.
$3, 500 you could have gone on your vacation, instead it would cost
you $7, 000 to go on that same vacation with Paradise Canyon Vacation,
if you decide to cancel after paying out $3, 500, if not the same
vacation would cost you $13, 500, shopping around is still free.

This is a quote from an actual Paradise Canyon Vacation member,
from a reputable travel site,
if you go to that link, and clik rainman75, you can send him an
email asking more information.

http://www.tripadvisor.ca/ShowTopic-..._Columbia.html

7. Rainman75
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Re: Paradise Canyon Vacations
31 March 2011, 1:24
I got suckered and yes it is a scam! Paradise Canyon Vacations "deals"
are no better than anywhere else and in some cases we found Paradise
Canyon Vacation trips to be more expensive then our friends who would
just book through a travel agent.
At the Paradise Canyon Vacation SCAM presentation they constantly tell
you how you can get great rates (like $200/wk) at great places all over
the world without blackout dates. Using this company I've never paid
less than $1300/wk! The best times to ravel are ALWAYS BLACKED OUT
at Paradise Canyon Vacations!
I travel a lot and I save VERY little using Paradise Canyon Vacations
kerisosh's plug is a direct quote from the sales pitch!
It's all bulls**t and it's bad for you!

Paradise canyon Vacation Scam

$200 a week employee vs $10, 000 membership

Paradise Canyon Vacation only pays it's tele marketers $200
per week, $10 an hour for 20 hours, from Sunday to Thursday
6pm to 10pm. Yet a travel membership is $10, 000 to $15, 000.
Noel fires employees every week, "cleaning house" as he calls
it. A few unhappy employees go online and Paradise Canyon
Vacation loses $10, 000 for every person reading the posts.
An employees only makes $9, 600 less than the $10, 000
membership fee.
I have seen callers tell the tele marketers that they read
the bad reviews of people being scammed on trip advisor.
that they want nothing to do with Paradise Canyon Vacation,
Paradise Canyon vacation doesn't realize all the scam sites
available for unhappy screwed over employees, and of course
travel members. If your an ex employee or an unhappy member
or someone who attened the presentation and didn't receive
your free gifts, stand up and post your concern and help
others to not get screwed over also. The best place to post
your complaint would be tripadvisor.ca, ripoff.com,
scaminformer.com, complaintsboard.com, and trailcanada.com,
and also exposeascam.com . Paradise Canyon Vacation can't
delete your posts on these sites, other sites posts
can be deleted so dont waste your time.
Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- $9700 and go up to $15k

jericho
Senior Member

Joined: Jan 2007
Location: Manchester to Alberta, but now beautiful Nova Scotia!
Posts: 1, 738

... so my wife got a call last week, out of the blue, and to cut
a long story short, we found ourselves attending some kind of
meeting/presentation today at the local golf club.

Paradise Canyon Vacations are apparently headquartered about
Lethbridge (AB) and made it 100% clear they're not a time share
and there was nothing to buy from them... today.

It's essentially a "club"- you pay them x thousand dollars to
join the club, and then you receive vacations/flights/cruises
etc at "net" prices. Some of the examples they gave were
extremely impressive.
It seems they're registered travel agents, so have access to
"net" prices through their sister companies/affiliates- that
include huge holiday condo companies, cruise companies, etc etc.

To be honest, I'm extremely skeptical of this kind of stuff,
and I only went because they promised a $1000 travel cheque.
The presentation was only an hour, so I thought it worth the
risk. However, the sales guy has me very interested...

The club "prices" start at around $9700 and go up to $15k or
so... but you can pay monthly over 20 years and cancel
whenever you want. The basic package, that I'm interested in,
would be around $40 a month.
I've booked an appointment with him to discuss in more detail,
but has anyone every had any experience with this company or
similar ones. For $40 a month, I'm inclined to try it for a
year and see what it's like. We have 2 holidays in mind for
this year and if we can save some money, it'll be worthwhile...

Anyone have any experience with this kind of deal/operation?
My subconscious is screaming it's some kind of scam and it
sounds too good to be true, but at the same time, I'm intrigued...

Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- asking for $9-15K.

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Totally Choco Chip

I had a quick look online and find it strange that they deny being
timeshare when asking for $9-15K. They are also members of
www.rci.com which is a timeshare exchange company.

I have nothing against timeshare, in fact we have owned one in Orlando
for 8 years - we hold title deeds and own it until we decide to sell it.
We enjoy ours and have vacationed at our home resort a few times and
also used it to exchange through RCI to other resorts in Scotland,
Ontario, Massechusettes and are heading to Maine this summer.

I would question paying out between $9-15k fees and not own anything
other than a membership
Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- 1 person can't make a diffrence

One person can't make a difference but together we can make people
more aware with knowledge and knowing is the first part of winning
any battle, we have compiled a list of informative blogs from people
who have been called, tele marketers and members who have been
scammed $10, 000 to $15, 000. Paradise Canyon Vacation is fighting back
by sending out their hitmen with prison tattoos namely Dave, Noel's
right hand man who sometimes uses his left to take down our blogs,
and Gaga aka Sega to slander mean malicious lies about employees
so please help us and spread the word tell everyone you know to
please come read our posts, there are over 100 different blogs so
you won't be bored and for those of you who are paying Paradise
Canyon Vacation monthly We strongly urge you to stop all payments
and quit while your ahead. $10, 000 is a beautiful thing to waste
on an rci membership and yes Paradise Canyon works with points,
Noel the manager told us in the call center that members get
points to stay 2 weeks at a time share location and also Noel
said that Paradise Canyon finances the $10, 000 to $15, 000 like a
bank lending out a car loan. So bacically you have nothing and
after you give Paradise Canyon Vacation $10, 000 to $15, 000 you
still havew to pay for your trip. It's time to wake up and
smell the coffee.

Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- 2 quotes come to mind

G77

Joined: Sep 2005
Location: Windsor, ON
Posts: 3, 345

If it's too good to be true...

...

Paradise Canyon vacation Scam

- Phewwwww...!

werlenator
Fort St...
posts: 106
13 June 2011, 22:15

Phewwwww...! I just had them call me and I was
going to go to the meeting but some little voice in
my head said "if it's too good to be true
then... you all know the rest!

Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- 2hr movie $10 - 1 hr presentation $10, 000

Paradise canyon Vacation will call and invite you to a free 60 minute presentation and
tell you how they are not calling to sell you anything, is strictly information only,
you cannot buy nothing at the presentation. The truth is they are calling to sell you
a $10, 000 to $15, 000 membership, they won't sell it to you at the presentation, and
they will come to your home and try to scam you for $10, 000.
Now if you went to a 2 hour movie, it will only cost you $10 admission plus popcorn
and soft drinks, snacks etc. But you won't have no salesman coming to your home after
the movie. By the way the membership is $3, 500 down not refundable and $40 to $60 a
month for the next 20 years. Just imagine going to a movie theatre and walking out
having to pay $60 a month for the next 20 years, this is what happens if you go to
a 1 hour Paradise canyon Vacation presentation. Choice is yours 2 hour movie $10,
1 hour travel expo presentation $10, 000. Where would you put your money?

Paradise Canyon vacation Scam

- 5, 000 members at $40 bucks per months

Vanese - [protected]:18
We were recently approached by a company called Paradise Canyo
Vacations based out of Lethbridge, Alberta. I am in the process of
checking with their Better Business Bureau and Chamber of Commerce - to
determine the legitimacy of this entity. It does sound too good to be
true which is why my spidey sense kicked in. It is a self describe
ultimate in internet discount vacation travel partnered with RCI
dialanexhange, I.C.E. Private Resort and Cruise Club and Enjoy Access.

My understanding, although we are meeting with them again, is that you
pay a monthly fee - basic membership for instance is around 10 gran
for say 20 years, paid monthly. And you can quit at any time without
signficant up front cost. I guess if they have 5 thousand members at 4
bucks a month its two hundred thousand dollars a month in revenue but
it still seems fishy. So I was wondering if anyone else had ever hear
of them or could validate the worthiness of the company

--
Vanese

Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- "50 Ways to Leave Your Lover"

Paradise Canyon Vacation campaign song

-performed by Dave Simon, Noel's right
hand man who sometimes uses his left.

The problem with traveling is
all inside your head
Noel said to me
The $10, 000 answer is easy if you
Write out a cheque logically
I'd like to help you in your struggle
To be free of your timeshare membership
There must be fifty ways
To leave $10, 000

Noel said it's really not my habit
To intrude with free gifts
for attending the 1 hour presentation
Furthermore, I hope my meaning
Won't be lost or misconstrued
that is why we ask you to bring
your spouse or a travel partner
But I'll repeat myself
"because that is what we do"
At the risk of being crude
There must be fifty ways
To leave $10, 000
Fifty ways to lose $10, 000

[CHORUS:]
You Just slip out the back
door of the presentation, Jack
Make a new plan
go to a movie instead, Stan
You don't need to be coy, Roy
hang up the phone when
Paradise Canyon Vacation calls
Just get yourself free
Hop on the bus, Gus
and bring your wallet with you
You don't need to discuss much
tell the salesman no
Just drop off the key, Lee
there are no free gifts to win
And get yourself free

Noel said it grieves me so
To see your wallet empty in such pain
I wish there was something I could do
like rip up your 20 year contract
To make you smile again
I said Noel I appreciate that
And would you please explain
About the fifty ways
To leave $10, 000

Noel said why don't we both
Just attend a presentation tonight
And I believe in the morning
You'll begin to be conned
to see the light
And write out that cheque for $10, 000
And then Noel kissed me
And I realized he probably was right
There must be fifty ways
To leave $10, 000
Fifty ways to lose $10, 000

Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- 50 Ways to Lose your members

Paradise Canyon Vacation Campaign song

-performed by Dave Simon, Noel's right
hand man who sometimes uses his left.

The problem is all inside your service
and the $3, 500 non refundable initial fee
I said to Noel
The $10, 000 answer is listening if you
Ask them to Take out their cheque book logically
I’d like to help you in your struggle
To scam callers, sorry To make a profit
There must be fifty ways
To lose your members

I told Noel it’s really not in
my job description
To advise or ask you to tell
members that the contract
is $40 t0 $60 a month for 20 years
Furthermore, I hope my meaning
Won’t get me fired or written up
But I’ll repeat myself
At the risk of being cool
There must be fifty ways
To lose your members
Fifty ways to lose your members

Just stab them in the back, Jack
Make a big scam, Stan
You don’t need more employees, Roy
Just streamline your staff.
Make a big fuss, Gus
You don’t need to discuss much
Just tack on a fee, Lee
And file for Chapter 11

I said to Noel it grieves me so
To see your empty presentations
I wish there was something I could do
To make you hire more tele marketers
Noel said I appreciate that
And would you please explain
About the fifty ways

I said why don’t we both
Just review your company's motto tonight
And I believe in the morning
You’ll begin to see the light
And then told Noel to treat
tele marketers with respect and give
them more than 1/4% commisssion
And Noel realized I probably was right
There must be fifty ways
To lose your members
Fifty ways to lose your members

Just stab them in the back, Jack
Make a big scam, Stan
You don’t need more employees, Roy
Just streamline your staff.
Make a big fuss, Gus
You don’t need to discuss much
Just tack on a fee, Lee
And file for Chapter 11

Paradise canyon Vacation Scam

- A few good men

All it takes is a few people to let others know about the
corruption, lies and greed of big powerful money hungry
corporations. Using underpaid tele marketers to try and
rob the innocent of thousands of dollars with promises
of free gifts and vacations. Paradise Canyon Vacation for
years has been under paying employees with minimum wages
and 1/4% commission bonus and on top of that using scare
tactics like calling the police to protect it's sales if
employees try to let other people online know of the scam.
They don't want callers to know that the membership is
$10, 000 to $15, 000 till the salesman arrives at their home.
These posts were written by jilted employees and people who were
scammed by paradise canyon vacation to help and warn others
not to fall in the same misfortune.

Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- Abby Don't cry for Paradise Canyon Vacation

Abby actually worked for the Paradise canyon Vacation call center a week
the month of October 2011 and yes her real name is Abby, Winnipeg's
Minor Volleyball Association right hand girl who sometimes uses her
left from what we hear she got along very well with Dave, Noel's
right hand man who uses uses his left, was it love at first sight a
right hand man and right hand girl who sometimes both use their left.
She was practically crying running tears like a faucet with her little
red beatty watery eyes telling us how the internet posts is making people
aware of Paradise canyon Vacation and effecting its sales, and that Dave
her right hand man who sometimes uses his left and who by the way is also
Noel's right hand man who also uses his left was going to go to ex employees
homes to tell them to stop posting the inside scoop on Paradise Canyon
Vacation. It's nice to know that Paradise Canyon Vacation is not happy with
just firing employees, now they send Dave, Noel's right hand man who sometimes
uses his left with his home made priosn tattoos to scare and bully employees at
their home. So nice to see Abby not worried about the innocent people being scammed
$10, 000 and told the presentation is free till the salesman arrives at their home
with a lenghty contract asking $10, 000 to $15, 000 with $3, 500 down not refundable
and $40 to $60 for the next 20 years, but instead Abby is crying for the crooked
management and its losing sales. Abby also did warn us that Dave Noel's right hand man
who sometimes uses his left told her that Paradise canyon Vacation might be changing
their name soon due to public awareness of their scam .If Abby the the Winnipeg Minor
Volleyball Association right hand girl who sometimes uses her left supports this crooked
time share company, I would stay away from the Minor Volleyball Association and
Paradise Canyon Vacation.

Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- Abducted by a toilet

97 year old Woman freed after being trapped on lavatory for a week

A Winnipeg tele marketer woman from Paradise canyon Vacation call center
has been rescued after she fell into the lavatory and was trapped there
for a week.
The Winnipeg woman employee at the Winnipeg Paradise Canyon vacation call
center, who has not been named, was only found by the emergency services
after a co worker heard her cries for help.
When an ambulance arrived paramedics found her stuck on the lavatory
and unable to get out. She was dehydrated but otherwise unharmed,
despite having spent seven days wedged in the same position.
Reports said the woman, aged 97, was found in the evening on Sunday and had
become stuck the previous Sunday evening.
Eventually she was freed when emergency services broke into the call center
office through a back door and found her in the woman’s bathroom.
"The lady was maneuvered to one side to free her. The door swings inwards
and she had her feet wedged on either side of the lavatory, " a Department
of Community Services spokesman said.
"She was very dehydrated but she was conscious."
A co worker said the woman told him she had been there since 6pm on Sunday.
"To me that meant that evening but she meant last Sunday.
“The co worker had not become concerned earlier because
it was normal to not see the woman or any other tele marketers
taking any calls during the week, he said.
"I'd never even seen her dialing any calls, " he said "but we still
got paid just the same"

Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- Allgallbladerss eat gaga's aka Sega’a ###

Now that Paradise Canyon Vacation is on line on the internet scam sites.
Employees like Allbladerss and gaga aka Sega come out of the wood word
to protect their jobs, Especially Gaga aka Sega trying to slander
innocent workers whom she accuses of going on line telling the truth,
Noel fired a whole bunch of people like he does every other week,
"cleaning house" as he says, Noel has pissed off many if not hundreds
of ex employees including his own Filipno people. Allgallbalderss and
gaga aka Sega you can both go and eat the ### out of Paradise Canyon
toilets call centre, because your both a piece of ### like the rest
of them, gaga is the biggest turd of them all slandering other employees
but gaga aka Sega didn’t mention that Noel the manager said it was ok for
employees to sell stolen xbox, playstaion games as long as employees got
good prices, funny how gaga aka Sega left that part out . Gaga aka Sega
you bought that stolen brand new laptop with the box and all for $100 from
that fat guy who works out at the gym everyday for $100, who are you to
call eople losers and mental when you yourself is buying stolen laptops at
work .Gaga aka Sega you enjoy trying to scam innocent people out of $10000
dollars, next time you two are on the phone, just tell the truth and tell
the people its $3, 500 down not refundable, and $50 a month for 20 years
oh and don't forgot the lengthy contract they got to sign, Allgallbladerss
when you can do this, then you can tell people to eat your ###, till then
you and Gaga aka Sega keep licking the urinals at Paradise canyon Vacation
call centre. Sega you came to work for 3 months along with your skinny
anorexic sister who hasn’t eaten in months, dressed up like a fat over weight
model walking down or should we say crashing down a jumbo 747 runway, but to
be a model Gaga aka Sega you need to lose 100 pounds off your big fat ###.

Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- Be Afraid Be Very Afraid

Paradise Canyon Vacations will sound so nice and
pleasing when they call you during supper and apologize
and swear they are not calling to sell you anything,
its strictly information only, you cant buy nothing
at the presentation and of course leave your money at
home, they will ask you to bring your wife or travel
partner, this way you can't walk away so easily from
the $10, 000 to $15, 000 membership, which is $3, 500
down not refundable and $40 to $60 a month for the
next 20 years, they will try to offer you gifts 2
free night hotel stay and dinner for 2, which nobody
ever receives, Paradise Canyon Vacations hates people
who come for the gifts, the owners call them "roaches",
then why do they offer the gifts and call the people
roaches for attending, there is also the $1, 000 travel
voucher, of course you have to spend $10, 000 to $15, 000
for the membership, membership is all you get, you still
have to pay for the trips, which will cost the same or
more if you shop around. Don't let Paradise Canyon
Vacation scam you.

Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- Bring your own toilet paper

I worked for the call centre at Paradise Canyon vacation in Winnipeg, every week Noel
would bring us in the presentation room and threaten us if we didn't do better he
would "clean house" and fire us. If you saw the bathrooms you would take getting
fired as a blessing. The bathroom floors were never mopped, Noel would just dump
20 gallons of water on the floors and there would be 2 inches of water on the
floors, until it dried. Then we had the ants crawling all over the bathroom
floors, rumor has it that they were Gaga's aka Sega’s crabs, the girl who
slanders employees on scam.com, complaining of smell when in fact the smell was
coming from her own yeast infection. The garbage pails were always full of
employees garbage and doughnuts, that would explain all the ants, the garbage
was emptied a good once a month, the garbage was always 2 feet over the small
garbage pails. As for the bathrooms there was hardly ever any toilet paper,
the employees were using the toilet paper to dry their hands since the paper
towel dispensers were always empty. If you have to go to the bathroom for a
crap you had better remember to bring your own toilet paper from home.
Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- Bullies Employees

Paradise Canyon Vacation advertises $15 an hour
for 24 hours per week, but it is in reality only
$10 an hour for 20 hours, and only $15 an hour
if you can get 10 leads that night which is next
to impossible. There is alot of favourtism and
those favored employees are given much easier
call list to work on, while others have to work
5 times harder, and if you dont produce enough
you are brought into the presentation room and
given warnings, special employees are protected
with very easy call sheets, Paradise Canyon
don't care about its employees only money,
and the $10, 000 to $15, 000 membership fee they
can get for their supposedly free presentations
from people believing they will receive 2 free
gifts, and Noel the manager and Rod the owner
call people attending the presentations for the
free gifts roaches.

Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- Harasses Seniors

Paradise Canyon Vacations is harassing seniors
trying to make them come to a supposedly free
presentation with 2 free gifts which no one
ever receives, they tell seniors it is
information only, leave your money at home,
when in reality the membership is $10, 000
to $15, 000, $3, 500 down and $40 to $60 per
month for the next 20 years, one night Wendy
the Horrible told Noel, "shes a senior 85
and dont travel", the Noel told her to
sell to her just the same.
Paradise Canyon Vacations just wants your
$10, 000 even if you have 1 foot in the grave.
They have no compassion or morals, and should
be respecting seniors instead of conning them
and trying to make them come out to a
presentation to con them out of their retirement
money.
Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- Campaign songs

Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- "50 Ways to Leave Your Lover"

Paradise Canyon Vacation campaign song

-performed by Dave Simon, Noel's right
hand man who sometimes uses his left.

The problem with traveling is
all inside your head
Noel said to me
The $10, 000 answer is easy if you
Write out a cheque logically
I'd like to help you in your struggle
To be free of your timeshare membership
There must be fifty ways
To leave $10, 000

Noel said it's really not my habit
To intrude with free gifts
for attending the 1 hour presentation
Furthermore, I hope my meaning
Won't be lost or misconstrued
that is why we ask you to bring
your spouse or a travel partner
But I'll repeat myself
"because that is what we do"
At the risk of being crude
There must be fifty ways
To leave $10, 000
Fifty ways to lose $10, 000

[CHORUS:]
You Just slip out the back
door of the presentation, Jack
Make a new plan
go to a movie instead, Stan
You don't need to be coy, Roy
hang up the phone when
Paradise Canyon Vacation calls
Just get yourself free
Hop on the bus, Gus
and bring your wallet with you
You don't need to discuss much
tell the salesman no
Just drop off the key, Lee
there are no free gifts to win
And get yourself free

Noel said it grieves me so
To see your wallet empty in such pain
I wish there was something I could do
like rip up your 20 year contract
To make you smile again
I said Noel I appreciate that
And would you please explain
About the fifty ways
To leave $10, 000

Noel said why don't we both
Just attend a presentation tonight
And I believe in the morning
You'll begin to be conned
to see the light
And write out that cheque for $10, 000
And then Noel kissed me
And I realized he probably was right
There must be fifty ways
To leave $10, 000
Fifty ways to lose $10, 00
Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- 50 Ways to Lose your members

Paradise Canyon Vacation Campaign song

-performed by Dave Simon, Noel's right
hand man who sometimes uses his left.

The problem is all inside your service
and the $3, 500 non refundable initial fee
I said to Noel
The $10, 000 answer is listening if you
Ask them to Take out their cheque book logically
I’d like to help you in your struggle
To scam callers, sorry To make a profit
There must be fifty ways
To lose your members

I told Noel it’s really not in
my job description
To advise or ask you to tell
members that the contract
is $40 t0 $60 a month for 20 years
Furthermore, I hope my meaning
Won’t get me fired or written up
But I’ll repeat myself
At the risk of being cool
There must be fifty ways
To lose your members
Fifty ways to lose your members

Just stab them in the back, Jack
Make a big scam, Stan
You don’t need more employees, Roy
Just streamline your staff.
Make a big fuss, Gus
You don’t need to discuss much
Just tack on a fee, Lee
And file for Chapter 11

I said to Noel it grieves me so
To see your empty presentations
I wish there was something I could do
To make you hire more tele marketers
Noel said I appreciate that
And would you please explain
About the fifty ways

I said why don’t we both
Just review your company's motto tonight
And I believe in the morning
You’ll begin to see the light
And then told Noel to treat
tele marketers with respect and give
them more than 1/4% commisssion
And Noel realized I probably was right
There must be fifty ways
To lose your members
Fifty ways to lose your members

Just stab them in the back, Jack
Make a big scam, Stan
You don’t need more employees, Roy
Just streamline your staff.
Make a big fuss, Gus
You don’t need to discuss much
Just tack on a fee, Lee
And file for Chapter 11
Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

Dont cry for me Argentina

Performed by Abby, Minor Volleyball Association
right hand girl who sometimes uses her left
and who was also employed with Paradise Canyon
Vacation in October 2011 for a week.

Dont cry for me Paradise canyon Vacation

It wont be easy to give up $10, 000, I'll think your travel service is strange
When the salesman will try to explain the $3, 500 non refundable deposit and how I will feel
That they will need my $40 to $60 a month for 20 years and love after all that they've done

You won't believe me that travel prices are no cheaper if you shop around
All you will see is a salesman at a presentation you once knew
Although he's dressed up to the nines
At sixes and sevens he will still lie to you

I had to let the presentation happen, I had to see if there was a change
Couldn't stay all my life not traveling and down at heel
Looking out of the window contemplating about writng out that cheque for $10, 000,
with promises of soon being in the sun

So I chose the freedom plus 20 year $15, 000 membership
Running, flying around, hotels and spas trying everything new
But nothing about Paradise Canyon Vacation impressed me at all
I never expected it to

Chorus:

Don't cry for me Paradise canyon Vacation
The truth is I never left you $10, 000
All through my wild days you kept calling during supper
My mad existence made only worse with your presentations
I kept my promise not to become one of your travel members
And if Don't keep your distance, I will call the BBB

And as for fortune you tried to scam from me, and as for fame you promised
I never invited them or your salesman in
Though it seemed to the world that the travel membership is not what I desired

They are illusions just like your phony salesmen
The travel savings are not the solutions they promised to be
The answer was here all the time, not to pick up the phone
I hate you and hope you stop calling me me

Don't cry for me Paradise Canyon Vacation

Paradise Canyon vacation Scam

- Whos zoomin who?

Who's Zoomin' Who Lyrics
Performed by Abby who worked at the Paradise Canyon
Vacation call center for a week in October 2011, but got
fired and is now with the Minor Volleyball Association.

You walked in the presentation room on the sly
Scopin' for those who love to travel and a $10, 000 membership fee
In the crowd, I caught your sneaky salesman eye
You can't hide your stuff and your lengthy contracts

You came to catch and tried to scam me
You thought I'd be naive and tame
You met your match Paradise Canyon vacation
I beat you at your own game you phoney salesman

(chorus)
Who's zoomin' who, take another look at this empty cheque, tell me baby
Who's zoomin who...oh
Who's zoomin' who, now the fish jumped off the $10, 000 hook
Didn't I baby...Who's zoomin' who (repeat)

Guess you believed the world I would have traveled
Didn't Played by your rules of $3, 500 non refundable
Here stands an experienced girl who wont give you $40 to $60 a month for life
I'm Nobody's fool...

Don't speculate that i'm joining your travel membership
you thought you had me covered, but
I've got your bait from reading on line scam posts
You're bound to be a loser...so go
(chorus)

You think you're smooth with your 2 free gifts
That you can pick and choose
When the time is right to attend your presentations...
But, just look behind, you'll be surprised to find
I'm not going to your presentation tonight...oh
(chorus)

Paradise Canyon Scam Vacation

- "can you spare $10, 000?'

Paradise Canyon Vacations tele marketers will call you during supper,
offer you 2 free night stay and dinner for 2, for attending an 1 hour
presentation, tell you to leave your wallet at home, strictly
information only, in reality the membership is $10, 000 to $15, 000 with
$3, 500 which is non refundable and $40 to $60 a month for 20 years, which
you don't find out untill the saleasman comes to your home with a lengthy
contract to sign, the tele marketers will tell you "you can't buy nothing
at the presentation" and call you the day before, leave your money at home
Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

Cashadvancecomplaints.com

Cashadvancecomplaints.com, chillingeffects.org and scam.com are all licking
Paradise Canyon Vacation's balls, removing all negative posts about Paradise
Canyon Vacation, for your information Cashadvancecomplaints.com this travel
company which denies being a timeshare company even though Noel told us
co workers that members receive enough free points to only stay 2 weeks at a
time share resort and Noel said that the company finances the $10, 000 to
$15, 000 like a bank financing a car loan, as for shady when our cousin
approached and asked Noel about Loren one of it's employees selling stolen
xbox, playstation, wii games and blu ray movies Noel said it was ok as long
as employees got good prices.
Cashadvancecomplaints.com you go ahead and protect crooked companies and let
innocent people get scammed, how much did Paradise Canyon Vacation pay you
to remove the posts, did they give your President a free $10, 000 memebership?
There are enough urinals for you to lick at the Paradise Canyon vacation
call center join scam.com and chillingeffects.org, thats all you crooked sites
are good for taking bribes to remove crooked comapny posts. For every negative
post you guys take down 100 more will go up to replace them. The internet is
freedom of speech and you crooked sites like yours aree only working for
big corporations not the little people.
Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- check before you buy

VonRijn - [protected]:06

Check with Alberta Consumer Affairs, whether they have a BOND filed with the
government of Alberta.

Sure smells, as you say.

News just yesterday reported that one of Alberta's largest travel agencies -
HAROLD SMITH TRAVEL, with lots of branches - WENT BANKRUPT
stranding loads of suckers.

Only those who used a credit card will get refunds, while those who paid cash
lost all.

Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

Chillingeffects.org can kiss our ###

Chillingeffects.org for your information Paradise Canyon Vacation
is keeping information from the public, not telling callers that the
travel membewrships are $10, 000 to $15, 000, another thing
chillingeffects.org when the manager Noel was approached about Loren
an employee selling stolen xbox, play station, wii games and blue ray
movies, Noel said it was ok as long as employees got good prices.
So your trying to protect Paradise canyon Vacation so they can keep
ripping people off, and keep selling stolen goods on company property.
You are like scam.com protecting crooked companies who cry about losing
sales they get from misguiding information. Chillingeffects.org the
internet is freedom of speech, as we were told by the police station
when Noel used scare tactics accusing him of posting blogs when Noel
fired thousands of employees, "cleaning house" so Noel says every other
week. His own Filipino people he ### on and there are many angry
Filipinos. Chillingeffects.org go ahead and post :

"In response to a complaint we received under the US Digital Millennium Copyright
Act, we have removed 1 result(s) from this page. If you wish, you may read the
DMCA complaint that caused the removal(s) at ChillingEffects.org."

Thats right keep trying to take away the peoples right to free speech online to
speak out and be heard about shady, crooked companies. Your only making a fool of
yourselves just like scam.com removing all the Paradise Canyon Vacation complaints,
for every post scam.com took down 100 more will go up to replace them, so scam.com
you can go and join chillingeffects.org and go lick the urinals at the Paradise
Canyon Vacation call center. How do you like that for freedom of internet speech.

Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

– Corncobs at work

What did tele marketers use when out of toilet paper?

Thank your lucky stars you don't work for Paradise Canyon Vacation call center, bucko.

Let me tell you about … corncobs. You may not believe this, but it was once common practice at the
Paradise Canyon Vacation call center to leave a corncob hanging from a string in the bathroom stall
for purposes of personal hygiene. The string, I gather, was to permit the cob to be reused. For
those who were punctilious in these matters, or else blessed with an abundance of corncobs, a box
of disposable cobs might be provided if the tele marketer met his sales goal for the week instead.
On Sundays and Mondays, the cob might be replaced by a mussel shell.
For those tele marketers with 2 or more sales in the evening, paper from discarded books or newspapers
was often provided by management to either of the foregoing. The meteoric growth of the Paradise Canyon
Vacation pamphlets, for instance, is thought to be partly attributable to
the protean nature of its catalogs, which, historians tells us, might serve a family of regular habits
for an entire season. As with the cob, the Paradise Canyon vacation pamphlets would be hung
in the bathroom on a string and pages torn off as needed. It's said the use of coated stock, which was
nonabsorbent, was a source of great consternation to travel members who could afford to join at
$10, 000 to $15, 000. when Paradise Canyon Vacation began printing color pictures in their pamphlets.
Families, in attempting to teach their sons to be cultivated gentlemen, often advised hoarding an
inexpensive volume of Paradise Canyon vacation Travel pamphlets for use in the loo. The idea, of course,
was that while you were sitting there in a contemplative state you'd be able to read
why Paradise canyon Vacations is no cheaper than other travel service and most often you will find more
expensive if you shop around, following which the paper aka travel pamphlet could be put to other ends,
so to speak. It hasn't escaped my notice that my magnum opus, that is Latin for stay away from Paradise
Canyon Vacation, is also well suited for this purpose. Maybe we should perforate the pages, for maximum
comfort and ease because that is all the travel pamphlet is good for.

Paradise Canyon Vacation Scam

- Cracked Foundations

Jeanherself
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Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 1

I have to post. I am from Lethbridge. The real estate
at Paradise Canyon is sliding into the coulees as the
builders did not go down to bedrock on the hills.
Currently you can see 2 of the $350, 000 to $500, 000
house for schedule A sale at $159, 000 and 175, 000.
Schedule A means you are buying as is with no recourse
if the condo/house continues to slip. THESE HOUSES
HAVE CRACKED FOUNDATIONS AS MANY OTHERS HAD AND THERE
IS NO QUICK FIX as I called a structural engineer and
he said they won't touch Paradise due to the numerous
lawsuits. You have to get pilings to go down to bedrock
and each can cost $30, 000 to $50, ooo apiece. You may
need 1 or 4 to stabilize each structure. Go to mls.ca
and get to the Lethbridge listings to view the beautiful
homes on firesale at Paradise Canyon! I looked inmto it
because of the prices. The real estate guys won't even
buy to resale.
PS- The river is the Old Man river not the Milk River.

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Paradise Canyon Vacation THE HELL OF RESTROOMS

Paradise Canyon vacation Scam

- THE HELL OF RESTROOMS

When I was at Paradise Canyon Vacation Call Center,
we had a small bathroom next to the closet. It was nothing fancy, just a sink and a toilet, but it got the job done.
A reversible sign on the door had a red STOP and a green GO to let you know whether or not someone was inside.
Of course, our high society humor would call for switching the sign to GO while someone was inside, and let the hilarity ensue.
One day, Dave the supervisor, Noel's right hand man who sometimes uses his left, tapped me on the shoulder and started yelling
at me for peeing on the toilet seat and floor. I hadn't even used the bathroom yet that day, so the sloppy pisser had to have
been someone else another tle marketer. But arguing with Dave was next to impossible, so I had to spend my entire lunch break
wiping the floor with bits of toilet paper, while the other tele marketers teased me.

Needless to say, I've had a thing about public restrooms ever since. I'm not one of those guys like that character in AMERICAN PIE
who had to hold it until he went home, but I've certainly had my share of bathroom hang-ups. For the most part, urinating in
Paradise Canyon Vacation call centre toilets was a pretty quick and uneventful experience. You could walk up to the urinal of choice,
unzip just a bit, and go on about your business with minimal interaction. But sometimes, things didn't go so easily.

For you uninitiated women that never got to venture inside a boy's bathroom, you haven't experienced the wonder of a wall of urinals.
Sometimes as many as two on the wall would hang there, just waiting to receive their piss offerings.
Choosing the right urinal said a lot about you. In fact there were rhymes we used to help us figure out exactly which one we wanted
to pee in. One of the most common would have you start naming them off from the left, "COFFEE, TEA, MILKSHAKE, PEE" in a sort of
piss-scented "EENIE, MEANIE, MINIE, MOE". Supposedly whatever urinal you chose was what you liked to drink. Lord help the poor kid
with a full bladder that didn't check in advance and haphazardly chose the "PEE" urinal. "Ha! Ha! YOU LIKE DRINKING PEEEEEEEEEEEE!",
was a tough insult to live down. Most of the kids "in the know" would choose milkshake or coffee, if they had their druthers.

Another variation on the theme was to count off, "KING, QUEEN, BOOGER, MACHINE!" This was particularly handy if you accidentally chose
the "PEE" urinal from the first rhyme, and could correct your taunting party, "No no...I'm using MACHINE!" For obvious reasons, the
"BOOGER" and "QUEEN" urinals were the ones to avoid, but as some of the more sexually aware 5th and 6th graders would point out,
if you chose "QUEEN" it was like you were putting your dick inside of a hot babe!

The real trauma of the Paradise Canyon Vacation call center bathrooms was when you had to take a ###. You might as well have ###
your pants at work for all the grief you'd get if someone walked in on you. Now, I've sneaked into many a times in the girls bathroom
at Paradise canyon Vacation call center in my day
(OK...last month) and I've never understood why the stalls in the girls' rooms had doors on them, but for some reason they were removed
from the boys'. What evil activities did the administration aka Noel think were taking place in them?

Once in my 2nd hour of work, I made the mistake of taking a ### in a stall that not only had no door, but no toilet paper either.
I was stranded there for about 15 minutes before I convinced some poor co worker to grab me some from another stall. When you need
to do the famous "squat walk" at home to grab a new roll, it's OK, but nobody would ever dare getting caught performing it during work.
He held his nose for dramatic effect, and practically threw it at me, as if I was some homeless man asking him to wipe my ###.

When I was in Paradise Canyon Vacation call center, bathrooms may have been horrifying to use, but they were actually cool to hang out in.
I mean if they were good enough for Fonzie to use as his office, it was OK for us tele marketers, right? Every once in a while, some
workers would take part in the bizarre ritual called "CRISS CROSS PEE" or "CROSSING SWORDS". While Star Wars was popular, you'd even have
weirdos pretending to be Obi Wan Kenobi and Darth Vader with their lightsabre urine streams. There was even a spell where some workers
would try to pee on your shoe. Suddenly peeing in the stalls instead of the urinals seemed like a much safer idea.

There were any number of pranks to pull off in the Paradise Canyon Vacation call center bathrooms, and nearly all of them involved using wet
paper towels. You could wad up a stack, get them wet, then throw them to the tiled floor and make a pretty large smack. Sinks were pretty
easy to clog up and overflow with them as well, which surely prompted the invention of faucets that turn themselves off. Of course the
greatest bathroom thrill as a worker was to pee on the "OUT OF ORDER DO NOT USE" sign that was occasionally taped on a urinal.

One call center Paradise canyon Vacation had ###ed workers working in the same building as us. They had their own special desks, but ate
lunch in the same lunchroom, and of course used the same bathroom. These unfortuntae co workers were always getting made fun of in some kind
of way. I remember going into the bathroom and seeing this little bully tele marketer tell a ###ed co worker about twice his size to hold
out his hand so he could smack it. The poor tele marketer was letting him do it over and over again while he cried. I helped a nice co worker out
when I came upon him in tears, holding the large carved wooden key that they used for a bathroom pass, cracked in half. I told him that the break
was pretty clean and if he just laid it down fit together on the manager's desk when he got back to work, someone else might think they broke it.
When I ran into the co worker later in the week, he thanked me as if I gave him the secret of life.

As I got older and more self conscious at Paradise canyon Vacation, my big fear was pissing next to people. I'd really have to relax and meditate for
a good minute before I could let it out. But it took perfect concentration. I had several times where I'd be ready to pee, and some other worker would
come up next to me, preventing me from finishing. I'd stand there and pretend to pee for about a minute, and then flush it really quick, so nobody would
think I was a psycho who just liked to stand there. Since I drink more heavily as an tle marketer, I've not found it to be much of a problem anymore.
Though every now and then, even at work, some worker walks in the bathroom with me, and chooses to pee in a stall behind a closed door.

Using bathrooms at the workplace at Paradise Canyon Vacation is an entirely different phenomenon. Where I work, it's actually pretty well accepted to bring
reading material into the john. Everything from The Sports Page of the newspaper, to interesting stories printed off the internet are handily tucked above
the toilet paper rack for tele marketers to read. Some people are pretty uptight about it being unsanitary, but it never bothered me. In fact, unless I've
actually got a hunk of crap on my finger, I never even wash my hands along with all the other co workers, unless someone else sees me in there, to keep up
appearances. You don't want to be known as "that guy who doesn't wash" when it's time for company potlucks even though none of the other workers washed their
hands either or never will for that fact.

The big terror of the Paradise Canyon Vacation workplace bathrooms is being identified as the worker who took a monster size noisy smelly ###. If your shoes
look anonymous enough under the stall, and nobody saw you walk in, you're usually safe. But lord help you if another worker sees you walk out after gassing up the
place with a deathly fecal fog.

It really bugs me when co workers talk to me while I'm sitting on the toilet. I don't know why but it really creeps the hell out of me. Not too long ago, I was taking
a ###, and didn't realize there was Noel the manager sitting in the next stall over. Noel shouted, "Hey man, I'm right here with ya!" This was kind of freaky, as
I didn't recognize the voice, and was truly weirded out by his attempt at bathroom camaraderie. I remained silent, and slightly scared as he added, "Yep...it's a helluva day!". Not knowing what to even say, I remained quiet as he went on and on about other nonsensical things, until I finally figured out
that the dude Noel was actually talking on his cell phone while he was taking a dump!

I mean, it's bad enough seeing people walking around stores and driving with cell phones, but who the hell calls up their friends while they're taking a ###, at work?
At this point, the evil side of me emerged, and I groaned loudly like I just passed an elephant through my sphincter and flushed the toilet 3 times in a row, just to
make sure that whoever this Noel guy was talking to, would realize where the call was really coming from.

And then there's the utter pandemonium of the men's room at Paradise canyon Vacation call center, where you've got the new pitfall of puke covered toilets to avoid.
In addition, brave women, sickened by the impossibly long and slow lines in their bathroom are in there with you! And forget about washing your hands in those sinks,
there's about as much piss in those as the urinals.

Of course, once you're married and have kids, any shred of bathroom decency goes out the door. In fact, it's as if there's no door at all.
You know you've got the right woman when she can walk in and brush her teeth while you're taking a crap, and not blink an eye.

Anyway, quit talking to me, I'm trying to pee.

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Paradise Canyon Vacation One flew over the cuckoo's nest

37-Paradise Canyon Scam - One flew over the cuckoos nest

I worked at the Paradise Canyon Vacation call centre in Winnipeg,
and it was just like being in the movie "one flew over the cuckoos
nest", but unfortunately there were more than one cuckoo. There
were people selling stolen sports jerseys like Rob, and others like
Loren selling stolen xbox, playstaion, pc games and blu ray movies,
Loren we beleive spent 1/2 of his time behand bars when not at work
for days on end. Then we have a tall black anorexic man from the
MTS Osbourne Winnipeg call center, Ozzie who loves to brag how he
is making $20 an hour at MTs and his girlfriend $35 working with xrays,
and he just can't stop talking about the house he bought, and what does
Ozzie aka Chris do with all his money, buys stolen sports jerseys
from Rob at the rate of 1 per week, so know you know what happens
when you pay your MTS bill, employees like Ozzie buy stolen sports
jerseys. When approached about the stolen xbox games Noel said it was
alright as long as employees got good prices Then we have the warden
Noel who loves to fire people every other week "cleaning house" as he calls
it, and lastly his right hand man Dave, who sometimes uses his left, with his
prison tattoos he blends in nicely with Rob and Loren, we call them the 3
amigos, that is just the tip of the iceberg, now you see why we call the
Paradise Canyon Vacation call centre "a few flew over the cuckoos nest"

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Dave Breeding Turkeys

Dave, Noel's right hand man who sometimes
uses his left is now enjoying the outdoors
chasing male turkeys. To help supplement his
income Dave has been helping turkeys to breed,
since he's been saving his right hand to assist
Noel, why not make extra money using his left hand,
so next time your having a family thanks giving dinner
and your about to say grace before carving the turkey
say a little prayer and thank Dave for without his left
hand there would be no turkey on the table.
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- Dave harasses ex-employees

Thursday October 20, 2011 - 6:25pm, 2011 our cousin receives not one but 2 calls from Dave trying to disguise himself as "James",
Noel's right hand man who sometimes uses his left, trying to question our cousin about internet blogs. *57 was used and the number
traced to the police station, and the call was more than likely made from Paradise canyon Vacation call center, during working hours.
It's not enough that Noel tried to use scare tactics and tell our cousin that the police will be wafting when he gets home the night he
went to pick up his final cheque, our family called the police station and Noel lied, the police said the internet is free speech. Noel fired
thousands of people even his own Filipino people, Dave go and harass Noel's Filipino people, we are not Filipinos, Dave go and call
Brian since he was the one who said in the meeting that Noel was protecting some people who had less sales than him, Brian was angry
about being fired, and he is Filipino who worked with Noel for 4 years. Is this the kind of company you want to hand over $10, 000 to $15, 000
for a travel membership, a company who harasses employees after firing them, Noel could have given our cousin trade show sheets but he
was out to fire our cousin, for asking Dave to get his antivirus program back, Noel was very pissed the night he returned the borrowed software,
he hasn't talked to our cousin since and kept ### on him, that’s the thanks you get for borrowing your boss who asked for the software, never
trust anyone from work, especially your boss. If this is how they treat their employees just imagine how they treat their members. Don't let Dave or Noel get
your hard earned money, you will get nothing for your $10, 000 and it is $3, 500 not refundable and $40 to $60 a month for 20 years and the prices are no
cheaper than other travel agents or if you shopped around for yourself.
Again October 21, 2011 7:28pm Dave calls back trying to use scare tactics, This time Dave clears his throat not knowing what to say, we believe he
was drunk putting back a few cold ones. Again *57 was used and the number traced, keep harassing our cousin Dave we will keep tracking and tracing
your calls. This is Paradise Canyon Vacation harassing ex employees, if this is how they treat employees we can imagine how they treat their
members.
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Dave still Harasses ex employees

6:10pm, October 24, 2011, Dave, Noel's right hand man who sometimes uses his
left, is still harassing our cousin and again *57 was used to trace the call
to the police, doesn't the employees at Paradise Canyon Vacation have nothing
better to do than theirr supervisor to call and harass ex employees and with
scare tactics and saying "you better quit that internet ###", Dave get a
real job like working in a tattoo parlor and get real tattoo not home made
prison tattoos, Noel fired many Filipinos and Brian was very upset go and
call Brian, leave innocent people alone. I hope people reading this will
think twice about giving Paradise Canyon Vacation $10, 000 to $15, 000 for
nothing more than a membership for prices no cheaper than if they shopped
around. For your information they don't tell you its $10, 000 till the
salesman gets to your home, don't beleive the "you can't buy nothing at the
presentation, it's strictly information only, and leave your money at home"
There are better things you can do with $10, p000 to $15, 000 than let Paradise
Canyon Vacation scam you out of it.

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- Dave right hand man with 2 left feet

Noel has a right hand man named Dave who sometimes uses his
left. Some of us worked with Dave before at Tele Solutions,
where 1/2 of the closing supervisors collecting credit card information
had served jail time, and this is where Dave came from, and he seems to
blend right in very nicely with his prison tattoos. Our cousin used to
work with Dave on Saturday mornings at Tele Solutions and he remembers
Dave coming in to work drunk like a skunk, and got many leads but once
he sobered up he couldn’t do nothing, useless as tits on bull. Dave
comes in to work every other week with a black eye from bar fights,
or misses days here and there when he's on a drinking binge. Is this
the best that Noel can do for a right hand man who sometimes uses his
left. If this is the quality of supervisors we can imagine the quality
of the salesmen at the presentations, the sales pitch should be
"leave your money at home but bring a case of two four".
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Under The Table

Is Pardise canyon vacation breaking the law, Is
Noel paying Ozzie under the table. On more than
one occassion Noel has been seen giving Ozzie a
handful of $20, when ozzie was asked about the
money. He said that Noel cashed his cheque for
him and that he had no bus money to get home.
Ozzie is an Osbourne, MTS employee making $20
an hour and his girlfriend $35 an hour as an ex
ray technician, and he has no bus money to get
home? Also Noel has been seen giving Edna a
handful of $20, that is against the law to not
declare work earnings, why is Noel breaking the
law with his favorite employees. As for Ozzie
if he would stop buying stolen sports Jerseys
from Rob every week, he may have change for the
bus. Noel when appraoched said it was ok for Loren
to sell stolen xbox games as long as employees got
good prices.
So is Paradise Canyon vacation is breaking the
law selling stolen goods at work?
We can almost be certain that Noel is paying pet
employees under the table, if Noel says it;s ok for Loren
to sell stolen xbox, play station, wii blue ray, blue ray
movies, why even Dave his right hand man who sometimes
uses his left is Loren's biggest customer.

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60 ways to lose $10, 000 1-Paradise canyon Scam - $10, 000 for a travel membership!!! This Travel Company which claims is not a timeshare, but is charging $10, 000 to $15, 000 for membership privileges for reduced travel services which you can find just as cheap or cheaper if you shop around. Cost is $3, 500 down not refundable and $40 t0 $60 per month...

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