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Jan Toomer / fraud

1 Las Cruces, NM, United States Review updated:
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I am so sick of hearing people shout her praises. Let me fill you in on what kind of person she really is...

First off, I'm the daughter she never wanted. Not the dead one... the one who's very much alive, no thanks to her. So, know that when I tell you what she's done, it comes from 17 years of putting up with her bulls***.

When I was 3, she left my father... then proceeded to lie about who my father actually was, and still denies it to this day... inherited diseases don't lie, people... He is covered from head to toe with psoriasis, which, coincidently, I have too.

Anyway, she ended up marrying some douche that liked to strangle me every chance he got... be it far from her to protect me, the child she didn't want.

Later, this husband of hers would take a little too much interest in me, if you get my drift. My animosity towards him was always blamed on "jealousy" rather than anyone facing the harsh truth.

My mother got into the habit of introducing me as "the habitual liar", just to crush whatever chance I had of finding someone to get me out of that hellhole.

When I was in Junior High, a friend spent the night, and we decided to make our own Ouija board... when my mother woke up and found us with it, she proceeded to accuse me of opening "portals" to the other side and made me stay up for hours that night to "close" them with my mind.

When I was little, my mother claimed that we were "borderline diabetics", meaning that we couldn't eat sugar. She made me sign a contract she made up when I was 9. It stated that if I ate sugar, she was allowed to take everything I owned, that I didn't need for school, and do with it as she pleased. Also, that I would be grounded, and would have to go on a diet to cleanse my body. This diet of hers was so poignantly called "die-off".

I spent most of my life of this diet, because, well, I knew she was full of s***. I didn't reach 100 lbs until I was at the end of my 10th grade year. I'm 5'8"... I was a walking skeleton. My body never developed as it should have. It's taken giving birth to 3 children (which doctors didn't think my body could support, due to malnutrition) to get my hormone levels normal.

Oh, and this so-called diabetes ------ I am actually hypoglycemic with hyperinsulemia... my body isn't lacking insulin... it over-produces it.
Without sufficient amount of sugar in my system, my body will turn on itself. Go figure...

And as far as her "metaphysical abilities"... I'm sure there are people out there who are truly gifted, but she isn't one of them... she's a con-artist who likes to prey on people just to make herself feel important. One reason she never wanted me around was due to the fact that I never bought into her delusions.

I haven't even put a dent in the amount of crap she put me through... I'm just tired of people being duped into believing the tales she spins... I hate to see that there are people looking for answers, and getting them from someone who isn't what she claims to be.

She reads books, and pays attention, but she has no more abilities than a pile of s***. At least the pile of s*** knows what it is, and doesn't try to manipulate others into thinking it's something else.

If you think I'm exaggerating, let me tell you this... the parents that brought her into this world were so afraid that I might have turned out to be like her, that they have refused to have anything to do with me... It takes a special kind of person to affect her immediate family the way she has...

Zo
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  • Ja
      14th of Jul, 2009
    -1 Votes

    This post is unwarranted, unfounded and untrue.

    The maliciousness of this saddens me.

    Jan Toomer

  • Ca
      14th of Jul, 2009
    -1 Votes

    I have taken Jan's metaphysical courses and have found her to be very professional. She is one of the most non-judgemental people I know.
    And I rely on heavily on my intuition or (gut feelings), and I have never felt she was anything but helpful or had the best intentions.

  • Cl
      14th of Jul, 2009
    -1 Votes

    I have known Jeff and Jan Toomer as well as their deseased daughter, Joana, since 2002. I have done numerous contracting jobs for them, taken Jans metaphysical course, and spent many hours with them. I consider them of high moral character.
    I presented Jan with a Blue Ribbon of Appreciation which may be seen at her metaphysical study site.
    Chris L Gaxiola

  • Fr
      14th of Jul, 2009
    0 Votes

    I don't personally know zoesmom. I do know Jan and I have sought her help in my life many times, she has been a dear friend of my entire family. I feel sad for this family that it takes posting on a site like this to bring attention to their pains. Obviously zosemom pays attention to what is going on with her mother, you think maybe this is zoesmoms way of trying to spark any kind of response from a stagnant relationship. Everyone has their difficult paths to walk where we are inevitably hurt along the way but it is in forgiveness that we learn and find peace. We each own our own reality... it is not for us to judge, but to try to offer understanding, forgiveness and acceptance. Zoesmom and Jan I say all this to both of you with love and I hope you find peace with each other.
    Faith Rybski

  • Zo
      24th of Jul, 2009
    -1 Votes

    "This post is unwarranted, unfounded and untrue.

    The maliciousness of this saddens me."

    REALLY?!?!

    Two children from the same household end up on drugs, and one dies because of it. Yeah, you're right, it's not the parents at all.

    Any of you ever hear that line: " HERE'S YOUR SIGN?!"

    So, is the contract still in the top drawer of your nightstand, or did you finally throw it out? 'Cause it was still there when I left the house at 17. Oh, and I don't doubt for a second that underneath all of the lies you have let yourself believe, you know the truth about your douchebag of a husband, and I hope it gives you nightmares every night, the way it did to me when I was in that hell.

    No, dear Faith, I do not wish to spark any kind of relationship with that horrible person. I just wish that for once, people would see her as she truly is.

    No matter your faith, religion, or what have you... most people believe that all truths are revealed when you pass - a lot of you are going to be sorely disappointed.

  • Jb
      24th of Jul, 2009
    0 Votes

    garden-variety sociopath.

  • Ka
      31st of Jul, 2009
    +1 Votes

    I know I had a mom that was a leader by being PTA President, Women's Club President, Church Deaconess, and used to torment me in any way she could. She was also an Emergency Room Trauma Nurse. I was even grounded for two weeks for me telling her that her boyfriend molested me; she was a freak who belonged in a Mental Hospital. BAck in the 1950's she had my sister go to a mental hospital for life, and she was no more crazy than I am. My happiest memories of childhood were imagining ways I could kill her (she died when she was 80). The world is so much better when these kind of people die--so, I'm sorry you had to go through this kind of torment as well.

    Hope you find that there is a God that loves you as I have, and is quite willing to send people like J.T. delightfully to hell. I can imagine no greater sin than to treat one's own family like crap.

  • Go
      7th of Aug, 2009
    +1 Votes

    Agreed. Some people can seem like angels, but you never know how they treat their children or certain other loved ones...

    True or not, I've been through this situation with my mother. She acted like God's gift to anyone who she wasn't mothering.

  • Bc
      18th of Aug, 2009
    +2 Votes

    Zoesmom, I feel for you. I was also starved and didnt dvelop until I was 23 or so and LONG TIME out of the house. Molested by my adopted father, too. And she and my sister knew everything, yet STILL abandoned me at 16! I know there will always be ppl that say "your mother is so nice, " like my teachers back then for instance, but boy if they only knew! I havent talked to my adopted mom for 5 years now, after she totally denied she was responsible for ANYTHING and I wasnt even a bad child and she wanted to put me in a mental asylum! I have nightmares about her, almost every other day. I have no relatives to speak of now, since I decided not hanging around my pervert fathr was best for my sanity too.

    It's a shame, but sometimes we just got to move on with our lives, or I'd be putting my mother's name up here also!

    Beck

  • Fr
      12th of Sep, 2009
    0 Votes

    ok...I just spent an hour putting a post here that didn't show up...too bad really because I am sure that it would have come across as sincere rather that aggravated as I am now. I completely agree with NonnieMouse here. We have all grown up under unfortunate circumstances, it doesn't give them any less merrit and it doesn't make it hurt any less. However...Like I said before "we each own our own reality" what I mean is that what you in your reality went through as so many of us have, you have to relaize that others went through their own as well. There are no manuals as a parent to tell you how to handle the lives of yourself or your children. We all fall and make mistakes...if we could change them we would, but all you can do is move forward. You can choose to hang on to the pain if you like or you can choose to work through it and make the best of everyday as they come. When I became a mother I made peace with my mother because of my children...it was a blessing and a huge growing experience. We have our issues still and I still carry pains of my youth, but despite it all I love my mother...I respect her expreience, patience, and the pains that she walked and tried to spare me. None of which will make any sence until you walk through some of your own as an adult. Life has a funny way of happening to all of us, no matter what you think you would or would not do or put up with you may find yourself suprised. If you hang on to the pain and put posion out there you impeed on your own healing. It has a way of coming back to bite you in the butt. God knows I love my mother but she is a pain in my butt sometimes...I am greatful that she is, greatful to have her even in turmoil. Neither of us can change what was...we can only focus on what we will become. I prey that you find peace...forgiveness for your mom. That doesn't mean that you agree, just that you let go of the hurt that will imprision you until you do. I caution you to be careful at taking validation from those that are agreeing with you on this site...understand that they empathise with you, many can understand, however if you fall too deep into that validation you will become stuck and will not be able to dig out until you take a deep look into yourself. This does not mean that you take fault in the things that happened but that you realize that you were not alone in your reality and pain, you work through it and become more understanding and a stronger person and find peace in you. You are the only one that can do that for yourself. I wish you could have found that peace and validation in your mom, but it is all in you and up to you...you mother has helped alot of people which in itself I am sure hurts you even more. You do not have to forget, however do yourself a favor and take the shortcut and forgive for your own healing. The only person that is being harmed by airing this here is you and I am soooo sorry that you can not yet see it. After all that you have said here, you of all people should realize that you can not undo what is done. We all suffer in our lives, we become scarred and these experiences follow us in life. We can live with them, we can be ruled by them or we can deal with them and become the people we were meant to be free from the baggage we carry. If you have 1% of your mothers DNA you are strong and can heal and move on. You are obviously looking for something here and something in me tells me that it isn't really revenge... if a future with your mother is not in the cards then so be it, take the time to heal yourself, move on and live a beautiful life...This is your choice.

  • Je
      16th of Mar, 2017
    0 Votes

    @frybski Just out of curiousity... Do you know what the side effects are of malnutrition in adolescents? It causes a domino effect of health problems, along with every genetic condition I've had to discover on my own. My choice was to not be starved, threatened, beaten or molested. Why should a person like that deserve devotion or forgiveness of any kind? How do you move on while watching the perpetrator get everything she ever wanted? My sister paid the ultimate price for our mother's selfishness. Don't want it to cause pain for anyone else.

  • He
      4th of May, 2013
    -3 Votes

    I KNOW JAN AS WELL AND IT SADDENS ME THAT SOMEONE CAN CARRY SO MUCH HATE IN THEIR HEART. IT'S YOUR CHOICE TO LET THE PAST HURT YOU OR HEAL YOU. THIS HATRED IS A PURE DEMONSTRATION THAT YOU ARE VERY MUCH STILL HURT. IS IT REALLY NECESSARY TO VOICE YOUR OPINION ON THE INTERNET TO DISCREDIT JAN? THE PEOPLE THAT KNOW HER WILL DEFEND HER AND MAKE THEIR OWN JUDGEMENTS BASED ON THEIR EXPERIENCES WITH HER. I CAME FROM HARD TIMES MYSELF AND RAN AWAY AS A TEEN FOR A FEW YEARS...DO I BLAME MY PARENTS? AS AN IMMATURE CHILD I DID, BUT AS A MATURE GROWN UP I HAVE LEARNED TO HOLD RESPONSIBILITIES FOR MY OWN ACTIONS AND FEELINGS. I GO TO A THERAPIST TO DEAL WITH MY CHILDHOOD ISSUES...YOU'RE ONLY HURTING YOURSELF. THIS IS A WEBSITE TO SUBMIT FRAUD...NOT AN OPEN THERAPY FORUM.

  • Je
      16th of Mar, 2017
    0 Votes

    @healinglight123 I have submitted this regarding the fraud she has and I assume still commits against those that believe she can heal and help. She uses. That's all she knows. Save yourselves from the heartache and disappointment that you are guaranteed. Listen to my words and know she is no one to be trusted.

  • Re
      18th of May, 2014
    0 Votes

    I've had some really strange encounters with Jan, myself. We didn't exactly hit it off but, we were as friendly as we could be to each other. I felt at times there was tension and I asked her about it. Her response was a curt 'No, we're good'. We became Facebook friends. She put up postings on home remedies - soaps, etc. I commented on her posts that I loved them and thanked her for posting them. She 'liked' my comments. The day after one of these exchanges, she posted a warning about carjackings, or something (I don't remember exactly). I posed a question that 'wasn't this really spreading fear?' She commented back and so did I. Her next comment to me was LOL. I felt she was laughing and mocking my comment. I told her I didn't understand how a metaphysical teacher would mock a student's question. She then sent me an email with the subject of 'This is goodbye'. Her email was hurtful and not something you would expect from a teacher of metaphysics. I was not allowed to respond to her. If contact with me was so awful, she could have quietly unfriended me, she could have called me, she could have engaged me in a dialogue to heal the hurt I had apparently and unknowly inflicted upon her.
    After this bizarre encounter, I began to wonder about her abilities as well . I was always one to ask a lot of questions. I wondered if my questioning was getting a little too close to home? I have no idea. I do know that her behavior toward me was extremely hurtful and I don't believe for a minute that I deserved it. At a minimum, we could approach these differences with a little more maturity.

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