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From the early nineties to late nineties California took current and back payments from my husbands check and forwarded them to Idaho. In 1998 he received refund checks because he was all caught up on his back support. He moved to Washington State and started getting notices from Idaho saying he still owed back support to the tune of over 14 thousand!. It took Idaho a year and a half to do an audit. Cally only took three months. Idaho's excuse was my husbands case wasn't the only one like it! So, I am currently looking for other Idaho victims. The FBI is involved in this because money crossed state lines. I did an audit using Idaho and Cally's records. Cally's records match my husbands pay stubs but consistently Idaho records have 'short comings'. I added up those 'short comings' and magically it added up to what they claim he owes, gee what a surprise.

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Renee DaSinger
, US
Feb 02, 2017 11:49 am EST

My husband paid off his child support (although the mother of that child had him sign his rights away so her husband could adopt) she changed her mind divorces the man and then once again following in her mother's footsteps lives off of the government with a few kids from different fathers.
My husband came into some money through a death in the family and paid off the retroactive support he shouldn't have owed in the first place because he gave 7, 000 already to pay for a child's birth he knew nothing about until she was 7.
Idaho said that he would be refunded the interest over the years be it 3-7, 000 so he called today as a follow up and the lady told him yes there is a refund but it is in the amount of 3 cents.

I am appalled and I want to take legal action if possible. I will be patient until we have the funds to do so but this is not acceptable.

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paul32168
, US
Jan 06, 2016 12:34 pm EST

I HAVE THREE COURT ORDERS...AND AGREEMENT WITH EX..I have been called a deadbeat- yet was never behind. I have so much documentation and HUGE court room battles expenses only to be told by CSED they will not follow them. Child support was to end upon graduation since she turned 18 before. Still going on and although I have had sympathy with workers agreeing with me but nothing they can do, apparently there is no one there who can do anything. When asked who has power to correct it back to dadbeat dad syndrome and name calling. I want to join any lawsuit against them. I am trying right now to get answers and have been given permission to sue but again no one to hold accountable. They owe me almost 1000 dollars in overpayment and to avoid they report they are using federal laws...proved them wrong on that by calling federal child support and now no one will take any calls. The want me to go through my state CSED...well my state sides with me but nothing they can do as it is Idaho...Who the hell can a guy talk too...I am taking this all the way including holding workers liable under gross misconduct!

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Scott Clark
, US
Oct 12, 2015 1:42 pm EDT

Currently being stipulated againts my own will! I have paid off a debt that i was told over 9, 000$ within two years. Half the money never made it to my sons and delt with, idaho and california saying i missed payments as i was paying things up, hmmm? Now after all was said and done i find myself doing the same thing how my acount got to nine thousand within the next two years is incredible!, how not sure, but cs had been sending reciepts to me after payments idaho and cali with 0 all over it, yet i have stubs to reciept. Now they tell me to bring everything in to fix the problem and did, which led me to nothing but someone trying to tell me to do an court hearing on redoing the childsupport amount, to a lower payment encouraging me to look like i cant take care of responsibilities, however its only the fact idaho stipulates me to pay amounts over time that is not possible causeing me to crash and burn on future payments and are taking my license away! I am a contractor, in order to make money i need to drive! I cant find attorneys for my case in idaho or cali, being im a real man taking care of my responsibilities, only to find myself stipulated by manizers and corrupted agendas, let alone the insuffentient amount of workers who should not be working for a place with such responsibility! Everything i do or try gets manipulated, stipulated and controlled by one who works for the state. Keeping things short, my sons are with their mother who has a warrant in idaho for demostic abuse and still managed to get custody of my kids while i did not know what was going on as i was working to fix problems she had started, to find myself paying her and paying myself out of debt from the relationship. The stipulations and disorganization of idaho and california childsupport are inhumane and not relavent to the childs wellbeing! At this point i am at civil unrest with this and can not do anything else to make things better myself and girlfriend have tried and dished enough money out we are strapped and confined to the ccs obligations againts my own will. My right to raise my sons as a good father are stipulated and the right of pursueing my own happiness has been interupted and is causeing more problems then to begin with and my children are being neglected and effected by it. To note i have my oldest son and no problems. Since he has been with me he has improved and works hard on everything better then ever. I am a hard working man who loves his children more then anything in the world and am getting very sick of this trend that is going on by spoiled brats and selfish women playing the sex card. Obviously it doesnt matter these days if male or female, but appetantly males seem to have some trwnd keeping them from rightfully raising his kids! I NEED A ATTORNEY TO HELP OUT BEAT THIS TREND APART AND PUT CHILDREN WITH THE RIGHTFUL AND LOVING PARENT! IM sick of seeing this trend tearing down good men and women, most of all tired of seeing children being held back. To many lazy corrupted people in state and fed offices lately and it's leading to a civil war. I for one American am at civil unrest and fed up with the corruption and disorganization of places such as this! It affects the future and our children and my kids will never feel like slaves as i do now. I have officially been held againts my own will and any further action will make me a martyr of this issue for those being stipulated ore manipulated againts rightful humane decisions for our children. Nothing else i can do but fight, being thays all they are able to do to me, is fight me on anything i terry and do right. Im fed upand done with the nonsense from ics, ccs i am a angry father who wants his sons home now! And trying and doing the do paperwork isnt and will not work. One thing you dont do is separate a man who loves his children expecially his sons that carry on the name! Us father's who work hard will change this politically correct crap and our children will get the love and teaching they deserve! Time to build up and end this corruption, I'd you're in say something and do something. Im real and dead serious about the safety and we'll being of my children and it is now the point that corruption in state and fed are corrupted and are negatively affecting my children, I'm angered beyond imagination. If one as patient as myself can't do things humane with state gov. what's left?

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Mcdode
Rathdrum, US
May 12, 2015 7:23 am EDT

I have had Idaho child support give my federal tax refund to california even though my support was done in Idaho. Idaho is well aware of having this check yet they do not deduct it from my balance, Last year it was received on March 17th and California released it on May 29th yet Idaho back dated it to March 17th and to this day on any balance sheet they provide the complete sum of what was taken is not shown. This is a corrupt way of doing their financial balances. How can Idaho give my check away until May 29th then put it in their books as if they received it on March 17th? Same thing is happening this year. How does Idaho child support think that it is ok to back date any form of payment and yet not give the credit the day they are logging it in their books?

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dbfritz
, US
Aug 31, 2014 6:53 pm EDT

...continued...my husbands ex never paid her court ordered amount. She would send 5 bucks here, 20 there. When we contacted idaho child support they told us there was nothing they could do cuz she was making an attempt. In 2012 his girls returned to their mother. When my husband got laid off I mailed in a partial payment (12/13) in January 2014 they suspended his drivers license. One month behind, even though idaho law is 3 consecutive months or 2000 behind. For 7 months we fought to get his license back. He would sign their dumb repayment agreement and send a payment with it they didn't get repayment agreement but they got money. A second time of signing agreement, they needed a payment b4 they could release license, send in a payment. Then it was the 2nd signed agreement was 2 days past due so it doesn't count, sign it a 3rd time...they need money. In July my husband threatened them with a lawyer, he had license the next day. Somebody with authority needs to stop their crap, it's BS

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dbfritz
, US
Aug 31, 2014 6:36 pm EDT

My story is some what different, I receive child support in Idaho. When i left my ex in 2005 idaho child support came up with the amount 507.00 for 2 kids. When we appeared in court the judge changed amount to 458.00 however the amount I received never changed from the 507.00 in 2008 idaho child support told me that they supersede a court order (cuz I questioned the amount difference) in 2013 I had a modification done. Next thing I know i'm being told that I owe 4k back to child support because my ex had paid to much. Now they won't even give me the full monthly amount that's ordered. They wont provide me with any kind of documentation, they kept the money my ex paid for back child support, they are going to take my taxes and that's just my case. My husband and I took custody of his 2 girls (for 6 yrs) in 2007, for the 1st year they continued to take child support from him. his ex never paid her court o

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thomsenj88
Meridian, US
Jul 29, 2014 1:44 pm EDT

My experience with Idaho health and welfare is absurd. Back in 2009 I got behind on payments due to unemployment. I worked out a payment arrangement with Health and welfare. They were already threatening to suspend my CDL. I had an arrangement with them to pay by September 12 2009. I paid over the amount of 276 at 876 dollars. I paid online with my debit card and held a receipt in my hand, called the state child support and Idaho department of transportation. They said i would be fine, and i faxed them the information of my payment. Two days later a cop pulled me over saying my license was suspended. I ended up with an SR-22, Paying reinstatement fees, and the fee to get my truck out of impound.
Fast forward to 2012. I relinquished my Rights to my son, (it was not easy) due to legal reasons of my Felony. Two weeks later I get a call saying I may be a father of another child. To a woman I have always disliked. So the parents got arrested for child endangerment, and some other charges. They said they were looking for an adoptive father for the child to go to. I never heard anything after the paternity test. She does not want anything from me as her life is the way she wants it, and mine is on a slippery slide with parole. Being a felon I have been out of work for almost a year, they hit me with 330 a month in child support, plus medical insurance. Once again i got a bill for back child support a month ago saying i owed 2500 dollars. I just had gotten a new job and told them it would be at least two to three weeks to pay them. My Cdl was suspended while i was in Portland on a short haul. I do not get it, I tried to work with them and it seems they want to screw me as much as possible. So i am sending them a bill for the work lost, and my reinstatement fees. I cant work if I cannot get there. I hate Idaho and the corrupt courts we have.

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carolmotherof4
Spokane, US
May 18, 2014 10:03 am EDT

My experience is on the flip side of most of you...my ex owes me $24, 000. One $50 payment in 15 years. He has lived with the same woman for 12 years, and Washington state PAID HIM to watch her kids. They've had warrants for his arrest but Washington won't actively look for him, even though I have his address. They've caught him once and drug him into court, the result was my one $50 payment. Now my kids are grown, although they are still "enforcing" the back child support. I lived in Idaho (until recently; I moved to Washington), he lives in Washington. Although I have to say he's been consistent--total deadbeat. Not even a birthday card in all those years. And yes, I keep in touch with his parents, so he could have seen his kids or got my address anytime. He quit calling them because they repeatedly gave me HIS address (which I gave to CSS). He's on the Washington State CSS Most Wanted website, BTW, so if you know where he is, give them a call! His name is Spencer Lloyd Ess! Any payment would be appreciated, and the money would very likely go to stuff for his GRANDKIDS.

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Shana Slippy
Moscow, US
Apr 25, 2014 6:49 pm EDT

Here is another similar story...although not to the penny yet. A man paying child support moved to Washington from Idaho. He was current..three years went by and he moved back to Idaho and the state didn't recognize any of the payments made in Washington the state of Idaho had his drivers licences was revoked. Still fighting it. If you would like to contact him that would wonderful. Joshua Mantz [protected].

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mamaeve
, PR
Oct 31, 2013 2:09 pm EDT
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my x husband lives in Idaho fall and I live in Puerto rico. I have the kids and he doesn't send anything for them. he is currently in arrears over 44, 000 and is avoiding all child support calls and wont accept their mail. I have been attempting to hold him in contempt of court, I thought once the debt got so high they would place an arrest warrant for him. but to this day nothing has happened. Ive been doing everything I can to provide for our children but it hasn't been easy due to his lack of cooperation. He pays rent, pays the vehicle for his wife, and takes good care of his pets but doesn't send a cent to his children. I desperately need my case enforced, but Idaho child support is not doing their part. they know where he is, just don't care to take higher actions against the non custodial parent. the debt keeps adding up every month he doesn't pay yet he is living the good life in Idaho. I have a lawyer but he is still waiting for some sort of reply as to why proper actions haven't been taken but im starting to see that Idaho is not going to cooperate on that note either. if someone could please lead me in the right direction to achieve collecting child support from James Moynihan in Idaho please e-mail me. mariaevemarta@yahoo.com. any help would be greatly appreciated.

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cody1972
Caldwell, US
Aug 06, 2013 7:55 pm EDT

Yea...Idaho has really taken me for a ride! Washington has been enforcing my case since 2001 and since then Idaho has been taking payments from me! I am on disibility and will need a heart transplant and cannot afford to have that happen! My wife and I got a payment history from Idaho for my child support case and they have taken over $8000 from me that they shouldn't have! We are just gettting the ball rolling so we will see what happens! Stay tuned for more!

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Anna2u22
Boise, US
Mar 25, 2013 10:10 pm EDT
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My God My son is going thru all of this, we live in Boise his Ex in Idaho Falls, and she filed up there, so therefore they did everything up there and said my son made 3800 a month therefore you owe 600 a month for child support. He has never in his life made 29 bucks an hour, and the judge and her lawyer said he did, therefore in went through and now he is 15, 000 in arears and has lost everything including visitation to his son my grandson, his truck, his wages are being garnished, he has filed 3 modications which the judge up there denied. My son is about to have a nervous break down. and this mother is so dam mad, how someone can do this to another person, and not even care I don't get it.. Idaho Sucks... and I have lived here for 30 plus years, I had faith at one time in our judical system, that they would be fair and honest and do what's in the best interest of the child as well. How can it be right to keep a father and his family from a child we all love, believe a women who has lied about income and keeps him away from us all. This is killing us, and we have went to everyone we can find to help us, even health & welfare to ask for help in searching for our grandson, and they said sorry we don't have any known address for her.. but no problem taking all his money. so upset in Idaho... no help for my Son, we are all broke trying to find someone that gives a dam...

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Parswarr
Boise, US
Jul 20, 2012 11:49 am EDT

To everyone on this board, please submit your formal complaints to the Idaho ACLU. I have begun working with them to get the Idaho Child Support Statutes revamped, but their response to me was that there didn't appear to be enough complaints and/or interest on the subject. I told them that if that was all that was holding them back that I could probably have 100, 000 complaints filed within a week if I could get the message out. This is one such attempt.

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inalaska
Missoula, US
Mar 27, 2012 3:13 pm EDT

Idaho is by far the worst state for their laws governing support. If you are male forget it. I have been on both the receiving and paying end with Idaho. My ex was free to not pay while my poor husband every time we turn around is dealing with modification issues and wage garnishment based on an unsigned court order. The system is allowed to be used as harassment, stalking bludgeoning tool for bitter people. We had to move to Alaska for work and Idaho neither cares about the other children in this situation nor the cost of living. They are free to count his overtime because he works for extended periods in the bush. We are starting to think maybe a job at McDonald's would be the answer because the more he makes the more they take. We have paid on time for 10 yrs. and we pay an amount that is fair for raising a child in Idaho. They never enter a wage in for her on the modification papers so we are 86% responsible for her financial raising. How can you be more than 50% responsible for a child that is half yours. We do not deny we should pay to raise this child but Idaho's slogan should be "We are all about the money" They allow her to not work and let us pay for her 4th new car and trips while we eat top ramen. Wish I knew who or where to start to change these ridiculous laws that have no cap on an amount you can collect. It ceases to be child support and becomes spousal support when the amounts are high.

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idahosed
Salt Lake City, US
Mar 15, 2012 8:33 pm EDT

same story, checks are garnished by Utah ORS, $2000 'disappeared' between utah and idaho... mother witholds custody, got a letter today saying their going to take any/everything i've got... our house loan fell through after the sellers accepted the bid due to Idaho placing leans on everything.

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DBDODDS
Ammon, US
Feb 14, 2012 4:51 am EST

Wow I feel your pain guys, my husband is going through crap with Idaho Child Support too. His ex wife died and the kids were adopted by her parents, Idaho is still saying he owes $10, 000 and it's still stacking up... Then his other ex has custody of all the kids and one of them she gave to her parents to take care of for awhile along with I think a temporary parental power of attorney and they are saying that he owes her mom who had the kid years ago for only a year over $2, 000. But most of all Idaho says he owes close to $28, 000 to his second ex that I mentioned. 2 of those kids from that marriage are already 18 and older and there is one kid left and she is 11... They just suspended his license today and we are fed up with Idaho giving into his ex (with the one kid left) everything and trapping him and saying that he never pays. We need to do something about Idaho because they are destroying lives.. Please email me if we can do something about it. satanzanjel@hotmail.com

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AMYJOWELLS
Spokane, US
Jan 30, 2012 7:39 am EST
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HAS ANYONE DEALT WITH ICSS CHANGING THEIR PHONE NUMBERS?

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AMYJOWELLS
Spokane, US
Jan 30, 2012 7:28 am EST
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i'm getting ready to sue idaho child support for a number of things...wanna join me?
amy jo [protected]

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Sherryaz
Tucson, US
Sep 23, 2010 7:22 pm EDT

I am a woman who is having equally as horrendous problems with the Idaho CSS. I don't have time to list all of the egregious errors and misrepresentations that have been made to me about the support that I was supposed to be getting. I have all of the documentation from Montana that shows the payments as they were made to my account. Idaho has been completely unable to balance the audit...although they have attempted. This is not specifically about whether you are a man or a woman. They are just COMPLETELY screwed up. I have contacted the AG Office and several attorneys. Sounds like it's class action suit time.

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pinching pennies
, US
May 05, 2010 5:47 pm EDT

I was pretty much told by idaho cs to get on food stamps so that we could afford the child support payment my husband owes to his ex. We have his two girls 50/50 and we are responsible to pay child support and 79% of medical bills. We also have 4 other children in our home. My husbands ex goes on vacations, has 3 properties, a chest job, and so on...Idaho Child support wants us to get on assistance to provide for our family? If anyone was any kind of legal advice for low income families please post it! Something needs to change! I am tired of pinching pennies to make it while they dont have to worry about making ends meet!

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bcarlson
Blackfoot, US
May 04, 2010 8:44 pm EDT

Is anyone noticing a pattern? It has nothing to do with living in California and living in Idaho. It simply has to do with the fact that you are male. My husband is going through the same exact thing. Idaho is discriminatory. They will bend over backwards for the female. Idaho is still trying to collect child support from my husband and we have had custody for over 14 months. The ex is 14 months delinquent and all they tell is is that their hands are tied. HA HA!

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Christopher Khan
San Jose, US
May 01, 2010 3:12 pm EDT

I just ran my credit report yesterday. I live in California and my x lives in Twin Falls Idaho. I pay child support to her through the Santa Clara Child Support Services. For some reason my credit report states that I am in arrears for $6769 through the Idaho State Child Support Services. How is this possible why am I being doubled dipped. I need to renew my passport and they wont let me if it shows you owe back child support!

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Bob white
Nampa, US
Mar 26, 2010 8:07 pm EDT

My experience with Idaho child support. In 1999 I wrote a formal request for a modification 2 years and three months later I received a response. The modification was terminated because they could not find the other parent. Child support services would not review the account for three years if the modification was terminated. From 1999 to 2001 I was sending child support services and c.s.s. was sending these payments to my ex but c.s.s. could not locate my ex. Nice way to lock me into my current child support for three years. One week later my monthly invoice reflected a 10, 615.oo credit. My thoughts were c.s.s. reviewed my income history and adjusted my account accordingly. 06-2002 my father past away and left me and my children his estate. The end of 2002 I became unemployed for a short time and c.s.s. suspended my drivers license 02-2003 I asked c.s.s. for a modification and c.s.s. said they would not modify my account because I was behind on my child support. 03-2003 I contacted c.s.s. and requested my account balance. I was given the balance of approx. 17, 000.00. My ex lived in Washington for a short period of time so there was a debt owed to Wa. Idaho c.s.s. assured me the 17, 000.00 included Wa. I took a loan out on the house we recieved from my fathers estate of 17, 000.00. Then I went to Idaho c.s.s. and paid my child support arrears. I also took a invoice from Wa. showing the debt owed. Idaho c.s.s. signed the invoice and told me they had to audit my account to see if Wa. had been satisfied, If Wa. had already been satisfied Id. c.s.s. would have to refund me 7, 000.00. If Wa. had not been satisfied I would not get a refund. Two days later Idaho c.s.s. sent the 17, 000.00 to my ex without auditing my account. One month later Wa. c.s.s. seized my checking accounts because Idaho c.s.s. did not satisfy Wa. On 05-2003 Id c.s.s. modified my account to hide the 10, 615.00 credit because with the credit I overpaid 762.00. this also included Wa. We have sence lost my fathers estate along with everything else. Now my son and I live in the back of a truck. 05-2003 I was able to hire a attorney and he represented me for a period of time until H&W offer him a job and he accepted therfor there was a conflict of interest. Idaho c.s.s. suspended my C.D.L drivers license several years ago and flat refused to give it back. sence 2003 I have recieved 9 official financial analysis from Idaho c.s.s. all reflecting different ending balances. I also recieved a official financial analysis from Wa. that analysis is the only one that reflects the 10, 615.00 credit and the modification on 05-2003 to hide the 10, 615.00. 3 months ago I went to H&W AND APPLIED FOR FOOD STAMPS. NOW H&W HAS GIVEN ME MY DRIVERS LISENCE BACK. So I can actively look for work. Idaho c.s.s. committed fraud on my account and and has caused irreversible devastation to my children's well being. They also took my ability to support my children. Idaho c.s.s. cannot replace or repair the devastation they have caused EVER! Idaho c.s.s. takes a parents drivers license when they get behind on there child support ( strips the parents ability to support there children ) If they have to feed the family then they understand the importance of a drivers licence and are willing to give it back. Idaho Health & Welfare has to be stopped. 2 days ago I met with the chairman of the Health & Welfare committee in Idaho and I knew more about c.s.s. than she did. Imagine that!

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sk8_punx
Paso Robles, US
Mar 03, 2010 12:09 pm EST

omg. there doing the same thing to me. im in ca. and she is in idaho. i pay my support every week yet she dont get payments sometimes for a month in a row. they have told her things like he quit or his company aint sending the money. my child support started in jan 08 when i still had my daughter yet by may when they started garnishing my checks i was in debt to them 14, 000. iv tried to make complaints about them but there is nowhere to do that. they dont give you that option. ya know i pay child support not idaho support. i actually ow 5000 in back support, 4000 for hospitol bills when the second child was born and 3000 for welfar that my ex fradulently collect for a year when i had my child in ca with me. now i talked to idaho child support last year and they said they could only take my tax refund for the actual past due support of 5000. they cant touch it for they money owed to the state(which shouldnt be owed considering me and the x were on medicade when the child was born so for them to charge me a year later cause i make good money now is wrong and why im paying her fraud is beyond me, she should be i jail) my refund this year was 4000. well the state took it and didnt give my x a penny of that money. something has to be done about these people but i dont know how to fight this state. any ideas email me at sk8_punx2003@yahoo.com

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Raunda
Middleton, US
Jan 11, 2010 6:01 pm EST

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Your story is just the same as my boyfriends. I would love any resources you can give me. Me walked in and gavre Idaho $17000.00 which is what they said he owed...the next month they seized his bank accounts, business accounts and DL. We have all the documents and like your none of the numbers add up, whats worse is every time he asked for a statement, no tweo were the same, even on the same dates the numbers are never the same. I am an accountant and still can't figure out how or where they get their MANY different figures. We have spoken to several lawyers and they all agree that he has a case, but none of them are willing to take it because they won't go up against the state. The one lawyer we did hire, resigned and now works for the Idaho department of Welfare CSS! We are more than willing to fight alongside you, but would GREATLY appriciate any resources that you have or any contacts that have been helpfull, I just don't know where to start this on my own. Like you his is accross state lines (WA and NV). If you could please help, or know anyone who can...I BEG you let us know. He is at the end of his rope, litterally and I don't want to see anyone else go through this. He has been fighting to get this straightened out for the past 7 years, and it just keeps wearing on him and I'm afraid of what might happen if we still can't get anyone to listen and take notice. It sounds like you have the attention of at least someone who is willing to look into your case, could they help us? I'll take and starting points you might have. Feele free to e-mail me and like I said, anything we can do to help you as well, let us know! We need to hold Idaho accountable for their actions and the lives they are destroyting!

Raunda Maloney
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