Ultimate Finding CompanyTimeshare scam

The Ultimate Finding Company. This company is based in Nerja, Spain & if you have a timeshare to sell offers to handle the sale for you in return for a payment of 1200 euros which you are told will be refunded on completion of sale. This is apparently to make sure you don`t back out of the contract. How they obtain phone numbers etc is anyone`s guess. The payment I gather from looking at various other consumer websites (www.consumer forum is a good one) is for marketing purposes. Regretably I fell for it & am now trying to get my money refunded through my credit card company. So Beware . If you have a timeshare to sell and are contacted by the Ultimate Finding Company based in Spain (I don`t think they have any premises in the UK) hang up on them immediatly.

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  • J1
    J1D Mar 08, 2010

    Hello, we were part of a scam by Ultimate Finding Company based in Nerja Spain. It was not a time share but a purchase of a holiday club membership called Principle Travel. Nothing they promised has been delivered on. We are trying to get our money back and also warn other people. We are not able to find out the names of any one senior in the Company. Does any one know this? and has any one had any luck in filing a complaint with local authorites in Spain or getting their money back?

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    Conan2 Apr 08, 2010

    had a call today from Ultimate Finding Com pany - they say they have a buyer for our holiday membership. The persons name I have is Victoria Stott - telephone number 08712445178

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    J1D Apr 08, 2010

    Hi, thanks and please be very cautious.

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    WIF Apr 09, 2010
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    I was 'cold contacted' by June Clark, (ULFC) on 30 March, interested in Selling my Timeshare for me. I have been using a US Company for past 13 months, trying to sell 2 weeks in Florida. On Tuesday 6 April, I had a call saying they had a buyer, and wanted me to confirm details and accept the offer. The number for contacting them was through to 'Ultimate Finding Company, England'.

    They claim to want no commission from me just a Bank Account number / sort code to deposit half the amount, and then I post them to deeds within 48 hrs, and they will then deposit the rest within 14 days. When I started asking questions about where they were based, and was the buyer in the UK, and they had they got a buyer so quickly, the answers were vauge and I heard no more from them.

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    T Hartstone Apr 11, 2010

    Have nothing to do with this. Whatever you do, DO NOT give them any of your bank account/CC details. May I suggest contacting a firm called Mason, Goodwin & Lisco on 0203 3555028. Look them up on GOOGLE. They are currently taking over legal liability of our timeshare in Spain & also our interest in a company called Diamond Resorts. They have charged me £400 for a letter of Absolvement but this removes all further legal liability for management charges etc. I found them most helpful. Give them a call!

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    WIF Apr 11, 2010
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    Thanks

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    T Hartstone Apr 11, 2010

    Your welcome. let me know how you get on!

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  • J1
    J1D Apr 11, 2010

    Here is a site would be worth checking out. www.rdo.org

    Some info from the site:


    RDO TURNS UP THE HEAT ON RESALE AND HOLIDAY CLUB FRAUDSTERS


    Brussels 29th March 2010 - As part on an ongoing campaign to help stamp out fraudulent practices targeted at timeshare owners, RDO (Resort Development Organisation), the trade body for timeshare and fractional ownership, is calling for consumers to come forward with their complaints.

    Of particular interest are complaints from people who have been invited to a presentation either to discuss ways in which to dispose of their timeshare or to join a class action scheme, but are then persuaded to sign up to membership of a holiday club of which they had no former knowledge. A deposit is frequently taken and if no cooling off period is provided, which is frequently the case, consumers may lose significant sums of money.

    The evidence that RDO builds up through this campaign will be presented to the enforcement authorities in both the UK and Spain to enable them to take decisive and hard-hitting action, putting a stop to the distress caused to people who have been misled by this type of activity.

    Over the course of the last few years the number of consumers coming to RDO with allegations of fraud has steadily increased and its enforcement programme, which is headed up by a former Spanish police inspector, is more important than ever, with significant sums of money being invested into a pan-European programme.

    Richard McIntosh, the Organisation’s chairman, adds, “Members of the public should always check with RDO if they are approached by a company they are unsure of and should walk away if they are asked to sign a contact which does not give them the right to withdraw

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    Bridget Chapman Apr 15, 2010
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    I currently have a club class consiege holiday plan which i keep getting phone calls do i want to sell, only, when you say yes they so say have a buyer mine was called Mr Owen who wanted to buy mine for £5, 250 only snag i have to pay 600 euros using my credit card as an assurity, when i suggest they deduct 600 euro from the £5, 250, they said Mr Owen couldnt do the assurity with his own money, well i cant risk losing 600 euro either


    Let me know what you think thnx Bridget

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    Bridget Chapman Apr 16, 2010
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    had another telephone call this morning from ultimate findings this time an office in spain, told her id found this website, said i would go thro with the sale if they write to me on headed letter paper give me the address and telephone number of the client wishing to give me 5, 20 quid and provide themselves with a solicitor and i would show all this info to my solicitor, the my solicitor could pay them 600 euro when he recieves sight of the 5, 250, lets see what comes of that but they are phoning quite regularly, really trying to get my money, oh and i told them about this site also

    Bridget

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    T Hartstone Apr 16, 2010

    If they keep phoning keep repeating to them what you have mentioned above. Whatever you do don`t pay anything up front. If they persist say that you will initiate legal action against them for harassment. See my above comment about contacting Mason, Goodwin & Lisco. Just because UFC are based in Spain doesn`t mean that legal action cannot be taken against them in the UK.

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    Seasider21 Apr 19, 2010

    We have recently been called by Goodwin Mason & Lisco who will act on our behalf (although they are not lawyers or solicitors) to absolve us from our timeshare ownership and therefore maintenance, for a fee of £400. As we have been cold called in the past by many other companies (whose names have appeared on various timeshare scam forums) who claim to be able to take our timeshare off our hands by varying methods, we have been very cautious about handing money over until we have investigated them thoroughly. I see that you (T Hartstone) make favourable comments about them, could you enlighten us a little more on their authenticity please?
    Thanks.

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    mags58 Jun 01, 2010

    I was contacted by Ultimate Finding Company in October last year and really stupid of me paid our 1, 690 euros then they said the sale fell through but would re-advertise, I was then contacted my Excalibur marketing who they said were the corparate end of Ultimate and that a company had offfered to buy our holiday at SAS Radison Golden Sands in Malta and they would let the weeks out and it was guaranteed and could i just pay some more money stupidly i did and they said the individuals had not turned up at the notary, I said it was supposed to be a company and they said oh no that Full Circle Holidays had bought it and were trying to sell it on for us so i am now trying to get my money back from the credit card company under section 75 of the consumer credit card act. I should have told my family what was going on as it was them who checked the internet for me how stupid i have been

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    jampot2 Jun 22, 2010
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    We have just been done! It looks like the same company and they now seem to be calling themselves Millenium Marketing Group. Although when we checked with our credit card company they said it was the Ultimate Finding Group. Please please do not give them any money up front. I have also been given different names, Amanda Wilson and Stephanie Williams in the "legal Dept"!!! The number they gave is also slightly different 0871 244 5184. Hope this helps anyone else who gets cold called by this company. Hopefully my mum will be able to claim her money back!

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    Aessa Jul 10, 2010

    Thank you for all your warnings- We have been contacted by one Sarah Evans from Millenium Marketing telling us that they had found a buyer for our timeshare. This would involve the client paying a deposit of £2000 which would be held as a deposit of by the company. The company then ask for a holding fee £990 payable by credit card and the rest of the money would be then deposited in our account and title deeds collected by courier service. Following a 'successful transaction' the holding fee would be returned. It all sounded too good to be true so I thought I would check them out. Thanks for the tip off

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    WizenedOne Aug 10, 2010

    I too was contacted by Sarah Evens (Millenium Marketing) asking for €1195 which would only be taken 'on account' by the credit card and we would receive £5, 000 for an Essential Travel membership we bough 4 years ago. Same as Aessa the holding fee would be refunded following a 'successful transaction' and we also would get 50% up front and 50% once title deeds collected by UPS. So pay some crooks €1195 to have your bank account details! Hope Sarah (or whatever her name is) falls asleep and has pleasant dreams - NOT! (Number given was 0871 244 5184)

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    LadyDepp Aug 18, 2010

    We have been contacted several times now by Millenium Marketing the latest call coming from Jane Williams on 08712445184. She says she has a buyer for our holiday membership and they are willing to pay £3500. We keep telling them we have to contact our holiday club to see if we are able to sell our membership. Luckily I have now read this forum and will tell Millenium Marketing we are not interested.

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    Susaq12 Aug 21, 2010
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    My parents have just been scammed for 1095 Euros by Millenium Marketing. We have just received the contract and various other documents which they need my parents to sign. The credit card payment slip which they've forwarded has Ultimate Finding Company on it.
    They say there's a 'get out' clause at a 20% cost so we've returned the documents today by recorded delivery, without signature.
    My mothers bank has been no help at all and we are trying to claim it back under section 75 too - no luck as yet. They told her if she cancelled the card it would affect her refund.
    I have the telephone number 0871 2445184. A Sally White contacted first time but the letters are signed by Bethany Turner. The address shows Apartado Correos 151, Torre de Mar 29740, Malaga.
    My mother is so distraught over this it has made her very unwell so these people need to be stopped and quickly.
    We have reported it to the local police but no joy there either.

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    airspike Aug 24, 2010

    Further to previous postings, has ANYONE had success using Mason Goodwin & Lisco to 'undo' their timeshare agreement??

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  • Su
    suey2112 Sep 05, 2010

    We also have been contacted by Mason Goodwin and Lisco. They claim to be able to get rid of your timeshare. Has anyone any comments to make on this company. They are asking for £450 up front.

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    karllukey Sep 06, 2010
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    i have just been doing buisness with mason goodwin and lisco on behalf of my mum and day however i have given them the credit cark details and i am sure they said it would show up on the credit card statemnet as millenuim marketing. any more comments

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    Uno-Hoo! Sep 25, 2010
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    My wife's sister and her husband have been scammed within the last two weeks in Nerja. They have paid £1, 400 for membership in 'Compass Leisure' after 'winning' a scratch card and attending a presentation. Visiting the Compass Leisure website (http://www.compassleisure.com/indext.asp) it appears very similar to Principle Travel - i.e. impressive but no details of who runs the company or who to contact. No business address or telephone number.
    I cannot find any complaints on the net about Compass Leisure so it appears that they have just switched to a new company name. How can these people sleep at night when they make money out of ripping off vulnerable people?

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    del50 Sep 30, 2010

    I have been offered £6, 400 for club class membership, but have to pay 1, 300 euros first as a guarantee, I have put them off until tomorrow, so I could check them out, it's obvious that its a scam. There are many many complaints about them, don't be fooled again as in my case.

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    racDEL Nov 17, 2010
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    We are the same as the lady above, my husband gave his debit card details to millenium marketing after many calls (we should have checked) as they said they were only going to hold the details for later in a sale transaction. Within one hour they had taken out over £1000. We have requested a refund as per t&cs minus 20% and now call them weekly to track our refund, 3 months later we still do not have it. Two weeks ago the lovely Bethany said it had be devoluted by accounts and would be in our account in 3 to 5 working days. Needless to say this has not happened. I have called daily since then and it is excuse after excuse. I am now writing to watchdog and looking at small claims options. We used a debit card so are not able to reclaim our money. I don't know how they sleep at night. DONT DO BUSINESS WITH THIS GROUP

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    debbie mason Nov 18, 2010

    hi
    have just read this forum and yesterday i wish i had gone on here had a call from millenuim marketing say they have a buyer for a holdiay share i bough years ago cybertravel same chat even gave me there licence no and adress email address which is the same has the above telephone no 0871 244 5184 stupidly i gave them my credit card details for the holding co an ESCROw account i was told would get back as soon as deal was done cant belive i been scammed again over this cybertravel co contacted my credit card co they can t do anything til it has been proven to be a fraud some much for insurance on cc i was told to connectact millenium marketing a ask for money back 1200 pounds dont no what to do now but keeping calling their no can some advise these people were so convincing cant believe they had me

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    Geoff123 Nov 22, 2010

    My story is similar but I hope there is a happy ending. I have gone into some detail in case it helps others decide what they should do.

    I too suffered an expensive and embarrassing loss with Cybertravel some years ago and was surprised a week ago to be contacted by Millenium Marketing (same phone number 0871 2445184) offering to try to sell my membership. An hour ago I was phoned by James Clark to be told that a buyer had been found and that I would receive £4, 700. The problem is that I apparently misunderstood what they were going to do with the credit card details that I (foolishly?) gave them (together with expiry date but not the security number on the back). I thought this was only to be used by them to recover their costs if I took the money from the buyer but then refused to sign over my membership. When their legal team (Cheryl Bernard?) called me a few minutes later, I found out that they would charge my CC £1500 immediately and "place it in escrow" until the whole transaction was signed off. At this point I withdrew from the arrangement. During a further call from them to try to reassure me, they assured me that they would not charge my card and no further action would be taken.

    I don't know if I have just thrown away £4, 700, but I think I may just have saved £1500 (which I might have been able to get back from my CC company, but maybe not). My CC company have told me that no payment has been taken from my account in the last hour and that the account has been put on stop just in case.

    Conclusion? I have no proof that they were not honest, just a strong feeling that I was nearly a victim for a second time. You must decide for yourself when you receive that call.

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    tuppence Nov 24, 2010

    Mason Goodwin & Lisco are another scamming company. They are advace fee fraudsters and you should all keep away from them. Their office is in fact not an office at all but a mail forwarding company that is being investiagted by the loacal trading standands office as they have several fraudulent businesses operating from Spain. Any person who cold calls you with offers to act for you or sell your timeshare with promises of instant cash are fraudulent. Just look on TATOC web site who warn you all of the scammers who have been reported to them. If you have sent a so called fee to either reclaim money spent on a timeshare scam you should report it to your local police of to ACTION FRAUD the national fraud reporting centre in London.

    Keep away from the farudsters Mason Goodwin & Lisco
    If you paid by Credit Card under the Consumers Credit Act 1974 you can get your money back if you can show it was taken fraudulently i.e. promises that your timeshare would be sold and has not.

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    littlemisssy Dec 15, 2010

    I'm so glad I checked here as we've just had exactly the same offer from Millenium Marketing but I've put them off until tomorrow so I could check them out.
    Disturbingly the first contact we had a couple of days ago was from a lady called 'Rebecca Hill' who purported to be from the Timeshare Council. She appeared to be checking whether we had ever given money to any company to sell our timeshare (no) and implied their organisation was trying to stop this practice. She then asked 'just out of interest' were we happy with out timeshare and when I replied no we were in the process of handing it back to the company, she immediately said why weren't we trying to sell it. She assured us they could pass our details on to a legit company who obviously wouldn't be asking for any money up front as they were trying to outlaw this, but they may well be able to find a buyer for us.
    Two days later we got the call from Millenium Marketing who said they had been passes on our details by the Timeshare Council.
    That approach would tend to lend credibility to the whole thing, but seeing as it seemed too good to be true, I thought I'd better check it out and sure enough it is!

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    suey2112 Dec 27, 2010

    Has anyone had any luck with handing their timeshare back? Have you been threatened/taken to court. We are now thinking about this.

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    LesC Dec 30, 2010
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    I have today been contacted by a firm in Nerja, Spain regarding the sal eof my Timeshare. The address they have given me is:

    Millenium Marketing Group
    Calle de Correos 151
    Torre del Mar 29740
    Malaga
    0871 2445184

    I have spoken to my own bank who advised me to be very wary even though I would be protected by using my Credit Card. I have decided not to go ahead with my sale. Does anyone know how we can get this company investigated in Spain?

    LesC

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    annoyedinwales Feb 18, 2011
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    Ultimate finding company stink- my mother had a time share and had been contacted by them to sell it, my mother passed away very suddenly and ufc told me 3 days after her death that they had been succesful and had found a buyer but were in the process of admin and needed a fee of 1200 euros according to them my mother was going to pay thme that day for them to sell it. I paid the money 12 months down the line nothing. They sure took advantage of someone under a lot of emotional pressure.
    Does any one know if i'm covered by my debit card? this company are such frauds and a nightmare to get hold of

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    caleymiss Mar 07, 2011
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    We were approached by compnaies offering to sell, paid money and nothing has happened. However we managed to return the 'ownership' back to the resort managers and are free from all responsibility. It may not work for all, but it is worth a try. Ask if you have signed an Escitura and ask for a copy of the signed deed. That is proof of your legal ownership in the apartment and should have been signed in front of an Advocat. If you do not have an Escitura then you only have a right to occupy on payment of the maintenance. If they cannot produce the Escitura then ask for a form or Notice of Cessation and Surrender of Contract. Too simple? I thought so but the confirmation has come through today.This is separate from Points for which you have to give 12 months notice.Good luck.

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    caleymiss Mar 07, 2011
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    please note that the Notice will not absolve you from the payment of the time share as in the purchase price, it only deals with the on going maintenance charges and you will lose the right to occpy.

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