Menu
CB Cat Breeders Review of The RagdollBreeder.Com
The RagdollBreeder.Com

The RagdollBreeder.Com review: Promotes Mink Ragdolls as Rare versions of the Breed when in fact they are unaccepted Variants of the Breed 1

C
Author of the review
12:33 pm EDT
Resolved
The complaint has been investigated and resolved to the customer’s satisfaction.
Featured review
This review was chosen algorithmically as the most valued customer feedback.

"The beautiful Mink Ragdoll is bred through only a handful of breeders around the world who wish to continue with these rare old lines of Solids and Minks."

Mink and Sepias were never an established color within the Ragdoll Breed.These "Variant" colors you claim you are continuing were derived from outcrossing Ragdolls to the RagaMuffin Breed. The Ragdoll Breed is a Colorpointed and Blue-Eyed Breed. Please stop misleading people into believing these Variants you are current producing are from unoutcrossed Breed resources.

http://www.eiserblew.co.uk/ragamuffin.htm

The Traditional Ragdoll Cat Society have been made aware of a number of Ragdolls which have been registered both in the UK and overseas who have 'Mink Ragdolls' in their pedigree. This information we are now passing on in good faith.

The 'Mink' colouration was introduced into these cats by crossing to RagaMuffins, which are a distinctly different breed of cat, also developed by Ann Baker. There are two RagaMuffins in particular who appear incorrectly on Ragdoll pedigrees - these are Liebling Mocha Madness (often noted on pedigrees as just 'Mocha Madness') and Reggie of Rainbow Rags (often noted on pedigrees as just 'Reggie').

"The RagaMuffin Breed was Founded on the IRCA cats when Ann began using Domestics and Persians to diversify her IRCA Ragdoll gene pool. These cats include Solid Color Cats and Mink colors. These are not entirely line traceable back to the original group of cats and their breeders who left Ann Baker and formed the Ragdoll Breed. These Breeders only had Colorpointed cats within their breeding programs. Colorpoint to Colorpoint breedings will only produce other colorpoints. Solids and Minks are therefore genetically impossible."
Curt Gehm, Liebling RagaMuffins

Georgann Chambers of Ragnarok Cattery had verified that there have been some errors with the registration of cats under another registry, the UCF. Due to these errors, RagaMuffins appeared as Ragdolls, and were subsequently transferred into TICA as full Ragdolls. The Certified Pedigrees were showing RagaMuffins as being Ragdolls, and this enabled these outcrosses to be transferred over to the GCCF using TICA certified pedigrees.

The TICA records have now been amended to show the incorrectly registered cats on the pedigree as RagaMuffins. As advised by Curt Gehm, there are RagaMuffins in every single Mink Ragdoll pedigree, and there are also many colourpointed siblings which have also been sold as breeding cats over the years, so it is very important that breeders are aware of this problem.

Below is a copy of an old, incorrect TICA pedigree, and below that a corrected copy. To fully understand the pedigree, you will also need to understand the TICA registration numbers, which I have also explained below:

View 0 more photos
Update by Curt Gehm
Jun 23, 2010 2:25 pm EDT

MIDMICHIGANRAGS in TICA.? Your outstanding Cattery expired on 9/21/2008.

http://tica.org/members/cattery/08_catteries.php
http://tica.org/members/cattery/09_catteries.php
http://tica.org/members/catteries.php

905.1.4 References to “Outstanding Cattery” or
“Cattery of Merit” on any material (i.e. web site,
advertising, etc.) issued by the cattery must include
the date that these designations were last earned
and the date the designation will expire.
Add: 905.1.5 TICA may, at any time, contact the
inspecting veterinarian for verification of the
information provided on the Cattery Evaluation
Form.

Resolved

The complaint has been investigated and resolved to the customer’s satisfaction.

1 comments
R
R
run like a girl
Hartford, US
Aug 21, 2012 10:27 pm EDT

You think Dave Chambers or his wife cares what they breed? They sold me a kitten who was SICK and @ the age of 3 died of HCM and he lies and said he guarantees that ... haha he is such a poor excuse ! HORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRIBLEEEEEEEEEEEEEE BREEDER ! RUN RUN RUN RUN