Prima Seal reviews and complaints

I just found all these postings! Ken Alderfer, from Creative Windows & More, gave me a great sales pitch for the cheapest replacement windows I could find. We signed a contract and I gave a $200 deposit from my savings account- i just graduated college. I never received a phone call and just now I contacted him and he told me to go to the state attorney general.

I absolutely agree Mr. Destefano. Charges should be brought up against Brads little side kick Ken Alderfer and that woman who worked for Brad for 5yrs the one who called me an ### when I called to complain about Brad, "Beth Bilheimer", all 3 of them need to be brought to justice!

I find it hard to believe that a warrant has not been issued for Ken Alderfer. I believe he clearly knows the status of Prima Seal and his boss Brad Soref. If and when the time comes where criminal charges against Ken Alderfer are presented, I would be glad to join in on action against him and see him punished for his cooperation in this scam. That's as clear as I can make myself in wishing he be caught and I cannot begin to tell you what I would really like to say...

My wife and I are recent victims of these con artists. We share a very similar story to Renee and Kevin in that Ken Alderfer provided a very good sales pitch for a product we knew very little about. We were especially attracted to the internal blinds option (blinds between the glass) which we only found through Pella's architecture series windows. We signed a $3450 contract on 5/10/2007 and appear to be out $1150 (1/3 deposit) based on Fox 5's 6/20/2007 aired story and based upon all your experiences. We are starting legal proceedings to help take down this scam artist.

For those of you who didn't get a chance to view the news story, you can view it here:

http://www.myfoxny.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=B3A1E34EFBEF069B6B1B7D0F8FF064A7?contentId=3552727&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1

David.

Me and my wife saw the show on Fox 5 last night and that was awesome the way they exposed that maggot Brad Soref! I love how he tried to deny that he was either Brad Soref or Brad Scott,what a loser! I wish they would of exposed those 2 sidekicks of Brads,Ken and Beth those ### should be going to court along with Brad. Again that was great how Brad was exposed as the liar and fraud he is. I hope justice is served to all 3 of those idiots!

Tyler

Unfortunately, I am in the same situation as all of you. I met with Prima Seal in early April 2007. Prima Seal was recommended to me by my superintendent and other residents in my building in Jersey City, NJ. I soon learned that Prima Seal was a scam. My check of $1,552 was cashed immediately and I never received one call back. I decided to google the location of Prima Seal and other businesses located in the area. That's when I learned that the Prima Seal store front was closed down. Another resident in my building has been waiting for a response from Prima Seal since January. This man is a criminal and should be in jail. I was delighted to see the story on Fox 5 news. Bill Destefano, I am glad you and your wife received your money back. Maybe there is hope for the rest of us yet, although it seems like there is a long line of people waiting to get their money back from Prima Seal. What a scam!

Uh beings that I don't live in NY I live in PA I don't get Fox 5 news, I get Fox 29 and Fox 360, damn and my family and I wanted to see that story, I was hoping that someone at least videotaped it for youtube.com.

My wife and I live in New Jersey and contracted with Prima Seal on 4/2/07. We canceled our contract within 3 days of signing, which was within contract terms. Brad didn't and wouldn't return our $2000.oo deposit. I registered with the BBB, NJ Consumer Affairs, PA Bureau of Consumer Protection, wrote to the PA Lieutenant Governor, Catasauqua District representative, PA Senator, and anyone else within a legal capacity. I had contacted 7 on your side and then saw Fox Action News get involved. My wife and I drove 2hrs to the Catasauqua Police Dept after we read that Brad, by the way real name Brad Soref, had been locked up for a weekend. After 2 month's of back and forth correspondence with Brad where possible, my wife and I drove to Catasauqua. We presented copies of all our Prima Seal email correspondence with Brad and Beth, along wioth registered cases with various agencies we had written. It turned out for us that although it was considered a civil matter, there was a criminal action involved where Brad attempted a bait and switch tactic where he said he was using manufacturer Sunrise Windows and that turned out not to be true, therefore posing a illegal bait and switch tactic from the beginning, which is considered criminal action in New Jersey. Our case was reviewed by the Lehigh Valley DA''s office and Catasauqua police who noted Brad's illegal pattern and the police presented him with a warrant to pay us back within 6 day's or go to jail. We had also registered a civil case against Brad . Brad decided to return our $2000.00 rather than go to jail again, which would have happened along with another criminal count if issuing false check, had that have happened. I hope this message somehow can be used by anyone out there where they may be able to present a similar issue and have Brad served. I understand Brad has opened a new company name Creative Windows and More. I intend to write about Brad's deceptive business practices wherever I am aware of him, until the day he dies.

Oh hey I have an idea if anybody wants to post the Fox 5 story about Prima Seal on youtube.com, that will REALLY spread the story of what a low life that guy Brad really is.

My brother and his wife got ripped off by that guy also and they still didn't get their money back and I have been helping them out and lending them money until that idiot Brad pays them back. Awfully odd that Brad has owed all of this money since 97? And he never went to prison over it? If that were anyone else they would of been locked up a long time ago. And I'll let my family know to stay tuned and watch Fox 5 tomorrow night, should be good, are they going to show his mug on tv?

Mark

Hi!

I also has been scammed by Prima-seal owner Brad an his employee Paul Weshler who told me on august 2006 that he resigned the company because Brad did not fulfill my contract (which I already paid $14,000.00 dollars and still waiting) I just find this site and start screaming a loud because my contract was signed on 6/27/06 and up to today I still try to get then to finish my windows and starting my siding with absolute no response on their part. In the meantime I still have to paid for the loan I made for this house improvements. As you could figure out my contract 180 days are way overdue. If you could help me on what to do to get my money back I would really appreciate your suggestions.

Thanks
Iris Roman

Brad contacted my cell phone today (Renee)! He called me around 830am & told me that his wife was dying of cancer and he has been tied up with a lot of stuff. HE also informed me that he no longer does business with SunRise windows. He also promised me that he will give my money back by the end of the week or next week. I have heard that line so many times. He is not going to pay anyone back! If he does make sure you call the bank to make sure he has enough money in his checking account before you cash the check. I use to work for a police station and I have heard of many suspects like BRAD...He can end up mailing to BAD checks...Once you cash it you are SCREWED you will have to wait for another check. Just call the bank and ask if there is enough money to cash it... I did speak with Cutney @ the police station and NO arrest were made Thursday. They were made over the weekend. Brad spent the weekend in prison but someone bailed him out (possibly Beth)! He is out on the loose again. I am pretty sure no arrest were made today. I feel that everyone has mixed stories or hearing one thing from one person and getting everyone worked up. Since day one in Feb I have had pretty good accurate info. My husband and I have been in touch with everyone. We still need to stick together and get this bad guy locked up. He was spooked for sure during the arrest over the weekend but from what I am hearing he is asking people for his second deposit. Dont give him anymore money... HE is a crook, crazy man... Just communicate with Cutney, BBB, Attorney General, your attorney or whoever can make legal actions... I am not sure when Fox5 will air. To correct the past e-mails on this board, the interview has NOT aired yet. They have to finish editing it and getting all the facts before broadcasting it. When I find out, I will let everyone know. For those that have been scammed the process has just started. We still have a lot of time before we get our money back.

FYI - here is a news story on the warrants that were issued last week.

The owner of a window and door replacement company in Catasauqua is in trouble for bilking a customer and a supplier, borough police said.

Brad Soref, who owns Prima-Seal at 425 Front St., was charged in two arrest warrants filed Thursday at Allentown District Judge Carl Balliet's office with ripping off one of his window suppliers and a customer.

Catasauqua police said that Soref, 56, of 418 Walnut St., Catasauqua, had an arrangement with Sunrise Windows in Temperance, Mich., to purchase windows in January. Bank records showed that Soref's account was closed on Jan. 3 and the bank had sent him a notice by certified mail to let him know, but on Jan. 9, he sent five checks to Sunrise Windows for a total of $6,869.58, according to court records. The checks were returned.

In another warrant, Soref was charged with allegedly taking $5,443 from Paul L. Nye of Coal Township, Northumberland County. Nye paid Soref $2,743 on Jan. 31 to replace seven windows and two doors at a property in New Jersey. On March 21, Soref called Nye to tell him that his windows and doors were ready for installation, and Nye gave him the remaining balance for the job, $2,700, but Soref never completed the deal.

Soref has yet to be arraigned and is charged with two counts of theft by deception and five counts of bad checks in the two arrest warrants.

This guy is still messing with people though. Cause today my wife got a call from him saying that his wife has cancer and that is why he hasn't gotten back to us. And that if we wanted that he would return our deposit by end of next week. I am not sure what he is trying to pull now, but I am going to contact a lawyer today to see what is going on.

Just an FYI: Sergeant Kutney called and just left a message on my home phone. ---5/29/07. Brad Sores has been arrested and is sitting in their jail in Castasaqua, PA. He was arrested on 2 other Counts of Thief by Deception and not on our dilemma's.

This guy has major issues. From what the lawyer told me today if he loses on all counts of on the Criminal Complaint he has to make restitution to all of us even if it means paying everyone back for the rest of his life... So you have to file a Civil Claim too to get your money. If he files Bankruptcy then forget it unless you have your claim in before he does it.

All, I just wanted to set the right tone. We are all very upset and believe me my husband and I are doing everything we can to get this guy to pay us back and locked up. Today Fox5 did an interview @ our home. They gathered some great facts from my husband & I. We are trying our best to move this along. Since we are in NJ and Brad (Prima Seal) is NOT licensed his contract is already and has been since day one garbage to us! The 180 days means nothing! Stella is right in NJ everyone needs to report this to there local police ASAP. Also to the NJ General's office. WE HAVE BEEN ROBBED FOLKS! What Prima Seal did to us we have now become VICTIMS! We are no longer just customers. Our kitchen is still waiting for our BAY WINDOW and every time I walk in that kitchen I get so angry that we signed and gave a check to BRAD, KEN whoever he is... The interview went well today and hopefully it will air soon... I will keep everyone posted but in the mean time, make sure you are calling everyone that needs to be called for complaints etc... Any questions give shoot me an e-mail. Also, I don't think we will be getting our money back any time soon... I am sure there will be a waiting list for those who have been ROBBED!

My wife, Fran, wrote to Kevin A. who advised that an interview should take place today on Fox 5 at 3:30. If there have been any changes, please let us know. We really need to follow this up.

Thanks to all and have a safe, happy holiday.

I just want everyone know that until one of the contract expires at the 180 day point ie 181 day this guy can be thrown in jail. Until then he is free to do whatever he pleases even if that means continually scamming other people. If anyone is reading this message board that has a contract that is going to expire soon and I mean in June please come forward!

The police can't just lock this guy up just because he stole our money until one of the contracts expire. Thats the law. Sure he's continuing to do this and laughing all the way to the bank. Please join forces with me to file a Civil Action Lawsuit against Prima Seal which is a Sole Proprietorship and not a Corporation ASAP before he files Bankruptcy. We are considered last on his list due to Outstanding debts that he already has with Vendors some of which are over $50k, Jeopardy Assessments with Pa Dept of Revenue and IRS and now soon he will have a PAUC issue due to nonpayment of employee wages and maybe even payroll taxes too. Even if this guy is thrown in jail he won't be able to pay $ back because he is now in jail. You have to go after his personal assets, his credit and hit him where he lives. Sure this sucks but obviously this guy turned sour starting almost 6 to 8 mos ago maybe due to an ugly divorce, Cash Flow problems who knows but the fact of the matter is he played us with his little Pyramid Effect with the 180 day clause in the contract. It doesn't matter whether he told you he will do the job such and such a date he has up to 180 days to come through so oh well. Until such time when that 180 days is up and he doesn't have the job done then he is considered in default. I too feel everyone's pain. I had many projects revolved around my house being resided etc. I have a wedding going off in back of my house in 2 mos, invitations have already been sent and replied back how do you think I feel having pictures taken with disgusting Aesbetos siding hanging off my house and its burgeoning too. How am I going to find someone to do this job by the 2nd week in June as verbally agreed too. I am really upset too.

But its the principal that has to be set here now!

I have to be honest with all of you that I highly doubt we will ever see our money back again but if this Civil action is filed along with the charges that will be pressed by the Attorney General's office and the lien that is placed on him by this Civil action someday the money may just reappear but if your are thinking its going to happen soon forget it. Sure the TV people can be him on TV and show him for the dog that he is but it still won't change matters. It is what it is! The only way now is to join me with this Civil Action along with what you already are doing. For the NJ residents you are in a much better position since he is not licensed to do business in NJ. You must go in person to with your contract, copies of your canceled checks front and back to the NJ District Attorney and present this to them immediately ! This will get action!

Shoot, I missed Brads interview with Fox 5. Does anyone know how Brad reacted or what he said to Fox 5? I would of loved to seen the look on his face haha. Last Wed. I decided to take a drive to Catasaauqua Pa and go to Prima Seal, I know its shut down but I was still curious if maybe there was a slight possibility, I asked a neighbor this guy and this girl if they knew that idiot Brad Scott, they told me that they dont know him personally but they know about him and what a liar he is. These neighbors live about 2 or 3 doors from where Prima Seal used to be. They also said that they heard that Brad and his office assistant Beth had a cozy little thing going on, that explains why Beth then, the one day that I called and asked for Brad and I explained my story to Beth she said that he wasn't in the office, I too asked her if theres another way that I can reach Brad, she said no im sorry. Then I told her that I was gonna have my attorney get after Brad, as Beth hung up I heard her mumble "###". And it was Beth because when I called for Brad I asked her who it was that I was speaking too, and she said Beth, well Beth must of thought that I didn't hear her mumble ### before we hung up, so I called back and I said what did you call me? Beth tried to play it cool and ask what I was talking about, I said to her that I specifically heard you call me an ###, well she denied it of course. That explains alot right there as well, also those neighbors that I spoke with said that they overheard Brad telling one of the movers who helped him move some office furniture out that his new business is called "creative windows and more". If anyone tried to reach me at all this week on my yahoo email, I couldn't use it because my server was down all week. And I do apologize if I couldn't get back to anyone.

Thanks Kevin for the information you sent me. I am in Philadelphia, I was able to talk to Mary today at the BBB - she was very helpful and said that she would pass my name along to the AG. I also filed a complaint on the AG's website. Hopefully we can get all of these ### and get our money back.

Kevin,

I am from New Jersey and plan to report this to the police. Please write me so we could further discuss what info you need to pass on to the right people. I spoke with FOX5 today at 1:30 pm. Fox5(John D, I'm not sure I'm able to say his full name) also contacted me and explained they confronted Brad Soref on camera. Fox5 described him as being a middle weight man with a scruffy beard , in his 40's to early 50's and smokes cigars. Fox5(John D) also said they will be interviewing victims, I think on Monday, May 28th, and I was told that not all victims would be interviewed, but they would add my name to the list of victims. I told Fox5(John D) to add my name. I also received a lady named Mary phone call today, at 1:45pm,from the Bethelem, PA BBB and I explained my experience along with all the updated events from this board and FOX5.

I also purchased windows from prima seal left a deposit and call everyday since march 2007 either brad stepped out or is gone for a week and no way to reach him i think he is scamming people and should be charged this is a crime im out alot of money and this keeps happening to alot of people.

Prima Seal based in catasaqua PA is a Scam company. The Owner is Brad Sores and the Salesman is Ken Alderfer. The installers are Henry and Jim.

I paid 33% of the payment for a Door Frame, Front Steel Door, Sidelites and Transom and even before he delivered the product or services he tried to take the rest 67% thru my Credit Card and luckily the card Company alerted me. But I had already paid 33% by then. I was practically after him to get my Door installed, when they brought it it was almost 2 inches shorter than the original frame installed. But by then they had pulled and broken the original frame and door. So they placed wood (extra on top) and installed it. He was supposed to send an installer to fix the defects and also install a new storm door because the original one is 2 inches taller than the new door.

Its been 6 months and they haven't even sent anyone.. I call him (Brad Sores) every week at least twice... now he claims the Storm door is with an Subcontracter and Brad doesn't have any clue as to why he would not install it.

As for the Main door itself, I can see light thru the sides of the Door, he claims he'll send a installer but no one had turned up till now. I called even a few minutes ago and the lady said Brad's out till Tuesday.