English Creme Goldens review: RIP OFF - SEE COMPLAINT UNDER LEAH WINKLER 22

Do you notice how this lady goes on all these breeders websites and bashes their names, well it is about time, what goes around comes around Pam Saxton is a Golden Retriever breeder doing this to many others named Tubie on here to ruin their reputations so people will buy from her instead. What a jealousy joke Pam Saxton really is, a Debbie Kern lover as well.

PAM SAXTON AT IT AS ALWAYS AGAIN MUST BE DEBBIE KERN'S LOVER

Hi. I am considering buying a puppy from Retriever of Golden Duck: Jack+Miss, from Serbia. I want a healthy, top blood, full english cream golden. Is this a trustable breeder? Thanks a lot

Hurray! YAY! You Got it Right! Ya their new website So you can keep slandering them as you have been all along with going on 5 years now and you all just dont know when to STOP. I hope that all of America sees what I see in all of each and every one of you that are all in this with each other for America Hates HATTERS AND VINDICTIVE PEOPLE AS YOURSELF. I am glad you see yourself as in going to Heaven with what you all are doing to this family of such innocent people that have been rail-roaded. Haven't you ALL had enough? Or are you like Home Alone Movie and are Thirsty For More? You need to ALL GROW UP and Leave Harold and Leah alone for they have absolutely DONE NOTHING AT ALL TO YOU . If you want to keep writing false acquisitions of Untruthful Stories with making stuff up and putting these people's name on anything and everything you come up with- think about it what goes around comes around.

Their dogs have NEVER had any problems or issues ever. All Imported Dogs (6) well over $40, 000.00 in dogs and saying they have issues, WOW! Is that ever a jealousy issue if I have ever seen and heard of in my life. They have been breeding over 25 years and NO DOGS HAVE EVER HAD TO BE REPLACED. Read their website they even gave a Free puppy away for a buyer's dog getting heart worms which is NOT the breeders fault. And on their health guarantee they dont require to return the dog back either to get a replacement dog they give you a new one with letting the buyers keep original said puppy that YES we love and are Attached to plus will give another puppy if ever needed. Read the Health Guarantee that is So awesome that NOBODY FOR THE WORLD WILL EVER MATCH. I would buy from them in a HEART BEAT before anybody as yourself that has trashed this family for NO APPARENT PROVEN REASONS.

****If anybody has any doubts at all ABOUT HAROLD OR LEAH call AKC or GRCA on them And there you go, YOU WILL HAVE EVERY ANSWER THAT IS THE TRUTH THAT YOU WILL EVER NEED. FOR NOTHING ON THE INTERNET IS TRUE ABOUT ANYBODY AT ALL NOT UNLESS YOU GO DIRECTLY TO THE HORSES MOUTH WHICH IS AKC & OR GRCA. TAKE A FEW MOMENTS AND PLEASE CALL THEM ON LEAH AND HAROLD WINKLER, I DID SO WHY DON'T YOU AND I GOT ALL MY ANSWERS OF THE TRUTH with being rest assured.

IMMATURE HATTERS AND VINDICTIVE PEOPLE NEED TO STOP PLEASE LEAVE THIS FAMILY ALONE. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!

New website for Harold & Lea(h) Winkler - http://importgoldens.com/index.html

Luvingour Golden - I'm fairly sure that everyone that has dealt with Lea(h) Winkler felt about the same as you do now when they first met her. It was only after their dogs had problems or she was caught lying that her true nature came out.

I really hope that your dog remains healthy - for your sake and the dogs.

We bought a dog from Lea Winkler in July 2011. Our dog is the BEST dog we ever had! Lea has provided support by phone or email and has been nothing but professional and very helpful. We would recommend this breeder to anyone and would def buy another dog from her again.

Lea(h) Winkler, rocket scientist no brainer aka Frances Michaels, Robert Smith, Toby Kenobi, Hank Wilkenson, jackbequick, Aaron Beagley, testosterone, a persons heart stabbed to death, puppymillsneed2beshutdown and who knows what other aliases you are going by now, you might want to keep a lower profile:

Bench warrants issued for failure to appear for both Lea and her son- shocking...
Lea - http://www.courtminutes.maricopa.gov/docs/Criminal/122011/m5026956.pdf
Brandon - http://www.courtminutes.maricopa.gov/docs/Criminal/112011/m5000104.pdf

Fraud? your face is FRAUD look in the mirror ###. That is why they are with GRCA and AKC and all on Good Standings with them, you are just jealous of them because you cant afford over $50, 000.00 in dogs like they can HAHA!

And especially when you read Debbie Kerns first complaint on this family please do so it ill tell you what kind of a person she really is and you can figure it all out on your own. It is like 3 years now and this ### Debbie Kern will not stop on this family, read her 1st complaint saying, " if you dont sell me Sydney back for $800.00 I will make your life pure living hell". It is right on the complaint for all you smart people to read to where you know why Debbie Kern is doing this to these people for and apparently will not stop until she is SHOT DEAD by somebody that sees what she is doing to this family, hate to say but hoping that a hit man takes her out for what she has done to this family with her so called friends that are all in on it with her too. If not shot dead by a hit man praying that God will take them all out instead as their punishment of killing these peoples dignity and ruining their lives from something that is so stupid. The lady Debbie Kern is NOTHING but pure Evil as you can read it yourself in all the complaints, make sure you read the very first initial compliant it will show you her demeanor of exactly what type of a person she really is.

This Crazy ### is contacting anybody and everybody that the other party bought their dogs from even in Europe too and is slandering them all over the whole world, would you want to buy a dog or puppy from a person that does this to such an innocent family or person for apparently no reasons? If NOT dont Buy from Debbie Kern and Chuck Kern in Clear lake IA

CERF - Expired - should be done yearly (Examinations must be done within 12 months of a breeding.)
Heart Clearance - was done by a practioner, ie Normal Vet. Should be done by Cardiologist (appropriate report from a Diplomate of the American College of Veterinary Medicine, Cardiology Specialty or a certification by the Orthopedic Foundation for Animals by a cardiologist (the number will be followed by a C))

Now you have a litter out of Fatherland Chocolate Souffle that was born on September 5th, 2011
GR-358424/2011--34
GR-CA20426/35F/P-NOPI - was done by a practioner, ie Normal Vet. Should be done by Cardiologist (appropriate report from a Diplomate of the American College of Veterinary Medicine, Cardiology Specialty or a certification by the Orthopedic Foundation for Animals by a cardiologist (the number will be followed by a C))
NO final hip clearance before breeding, NO final elbow clearance

and the litter out of Maddie is sired by Big Blue Thunder Of Willow Downs who is 17 months old
GR-CA20548/16M/P-VPI - done by a practioner, ie Normal Vet. Should be done by Cardiologist (appropriate report from a Diplomate of the American College of Veterinary Medicine, Cardiology Specialty or a certification by the Orthopedic Foundation for Animals by a cardiologist (the number will be followed by a C))
NO final hip clearance before breeding, NO final elbow clearance
NO CERF

More information on the owner/breeder: Lea Winkler (aka one sick b**th Debbie Kern, testosterone, rocket scientist no brainer, and hundreds of other aliases)...
http://www.jailbase.com/en/arrested/az-mcso/2011-10-08/lea-maria-winkler-p809309 (or just go to jailbase.com and put in her name)
http://www.azcentral.com/community/glendale/articles/2011/10/12/20111012glendale-police-mom-son-accused-cabelas-theft-abrk.html (or Google Lea Winkler Cabelas)
For a fun look at her history with the AZ courts: http://apps.supremecourt.az.gov/publicaccess/caselookup.aspx and look up her name (best used with IE)

EAT ###! ###ERS...
Hip clearance: OFA GR-103627G26F-VPI
Eye clearance: CERF GR-43745/2010--12
Heart clearance: OFA GR-CA18185/14F/P-VPI
Elbow clearance: OFA GR-EL24721F26-VPI

Anyone looking for a Golden Retriever, English Golden Retriever, etc:
Please use only breeders who follow the Golden Retriever Club of America's (GRCA) Code of Ethics and Breeding Guidelines. This will help to get you the healthiest puppy possible.

From the GRCA.org website. Please note that 24 months is specifically addressed as the age for final clearances for both dogs in the US and for dogs that were imported from OUTSIDE the US. It also specifies when/how often eye exams should be done and what kind of vet should be doing heart clearances:

a. Hips – for U.S. dogs, a report from Orthopedic Foundation for Animals; or PennHIP at 24 months of age or older. For dogs outside the U.S., report from a health registry approved by the Golden Retriever club of that country (e.g. Canada - Ontario Veterinary College; Great Britain - BVA/KC Hip Score) A report from the accepted health registry of another country may be used for U.S. dogs that are 24 months of age or older when x-rayed.

b.Eyes – appropriate report from a Diplomate of the American College of Veterinary Ophthalmology (ACVO) or from a BVA/KC approved ophthalmologist (Great Britain), or a report from the Canine Eye Registry Foundation. For dogs outside the U.S., a report from an ophthalmologist as recommended by the Golden Retriever club of that country after 1 year of age. Examinations must be done within 12 months of a breeding.

c. Hearts – appropriate report from a Diplomate of the American College of Veterinary Medicine, Cardiology Specialty or a certification by the Orthopedic Foundation for Animals by a cardiologist (the number will be followed by a C) at 12 months of age or older.

d. Elbows – for U.S. dogs, a report from Orthopedic Foundation for Animals at 24 months of age or older. For dogs outside the U.S., report from a health registry approved by the Golden Retriever club of that country at 24 months of age or older. A report from the accepted health registry of another country may be used for U.S. dogs that are 24 months of age or older when x-rayed.

LOL - yet another alias...

Daisy JUST turned 2 on March 30th, 2011 and her pups were born on March 5th, 2011. She was 21-22 months old when she was bred to Charlie. She still doesn't have her final OFA hips/elbows done.

*snort* and now evidently, it looks like you are offering to ship Charli to someone for stud use: http://www.hobbybreeders.com/Stud-Dogs/GoldenRetriever667.aspx

Once again I state: "You tout your multi-champion stud dog, Sweet Anja Charli, yet you didn't put a single title on him. You bought him with all those titles and have yet to step into a ring with him. His heart clearance was also done by a practitioner as was his half-sisters, Blue Butterfly of Golden Duck.

Your claims that you have been competing with your Goldens for years are lies. You haven't put a single title on any dogs. Most of your dogs' records on K9data have been locked by the admins because you continually change/remove data that might make you look like you might be less than reputable. You changed the name of one of your dogs with the AKC to remove reference to the breeder of your dog Frosty Paw's Moosey Moo who was formerly Frosty Paw Moose Tracks Clark Meadow. You are a fraud and the more people who know about you, the better."

* DOING

Daisy is over 2 years old cracker mind your own ###ing business you dumb ### ###! Go ### YOURSELF! TIRED OF ALL THE GAMES AND BULL ### ON THIS FAMILY THAT YOU GUYS THAT ARE ALL IN CAHOOTS ARE DING BURN MOTHER ###ERS ALL IN HELL!

Yup, great dogs all right - one of your ###, Desert Sun's Flower Of White Dove, is from White Dove, a major high volume breeder who does very few clearances. Your ###'s sire and dam have no verifiable clearances. Her grandmother and grandfather on her mother's side have no verifiable hip certifications and the grandmother has no verifiable eye clearances. Daisy herself is not yet 2 years old and you bred her on prelims, not final certifications. Her cardiac clearance was done by a practitioner, not a cardiologist. Cardiologists are specially trained to detect problems, practictioners are not.

You tout your multi-champion stud dog, Sweet Anja Charli, yet you didn't put a single title on him. You bought him with all those titles and have yet to step into a ring with him. His heart clearance was also done by a practitioner as was his half-sisters, Blue Butterfly of Golden Duck.

Your claims that you have been competing with your Goldens for years are lies. You haven't put a single title on any dogs. Most of your dogs' records on K9data have been locked by the admins because you continually change/remove data that might make you look like you might be less than reputable. You changed the name of one of your dogs with the AKC to remove reference to the breeder of your dog Frosty Paw's Moosey Moo who was formerly Frosty Paw Moose Tracks Clark Meadow. You are a fraud and the more people who know about you, the better.

PS, I like how you added Kathleen Durso (who owns Daisy's grandfather - Goldenone Star Night) and South Wind Goldens, who has posted complaints about you stealing content from her website to your rants now.

NOW THEY HAVE COME UP WITH YET ANOTHER NAME FOR THEMSELVES! SERIOUSLY...I'LL FIND YOU WHEREVR YOU GO!
http://englishcremepups.com/index.php

Debbie, it seems to me that someone recently (within the last 2 months) checked with the GRCA and was told that Lea was, in fact, a member. You might want to verify this for yourself.

It's fairly obvious that rocket scientist no brainer = Lea(h) Winkler - the punctuation and constant CAPS are a dead giveaway.

I wonder what Golden Duck kennels would say if they were told about and shown all of the rather nasty messages that Lea has left about any breeder who crosses her? Considering that he seems to be a well-respected breeder and judge, I'm fairly sure that he wouldn't want to be associated with such garbage. I KNOW that Eva Sikora regrets ever becoming involved with her as well.

Debbie, have you ever considered filing a complaint with the GRCA about her conduct? At the minimum, you could get her privileges suspended for 6 months with the possibility of Expulsion at the annual meeting. If she is truly a member of the GRCA (as she claims), she is setting a horribly bad example and should not have that opportunity.