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Bought this mentoring program through Global Cash Flow networks and Mary Gersten. I was lied to by this JohnPhelps who said he is Dan
Kuschells right hand man. Told all about his nbc radio show and how this Dan Kuschell made him millions. I already spent several thousand dollars with bs traffic from Gersten's liars. I have no job but Phelps told me I could make $50, 000 in 6 months and not to worry.

Talked with my airhead coach Jennifer and I knew more than her. I have made several calls to the coaches and nobody ever returns my call.

I like to get a list of all of Kuschells students that have hit $50, 000.

Update by gloria_P
Jun 30, 2009 3:27 pm EDT

I also ran into that John Phelps, he bored me really good with his success talk.

If he was doing so great, why is he calling us?

Update by gloria_P
Jun 30, 2009 4:01 pm EDT

I got confused. Thought it was another poster. Must be losing my mind along with my money.

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randy_out
Scottsdale, US
Jun 30, 2009 11:28 pm EDT

I see that Kuschell likes to rehash old stories to keep the bad news out of people's hands.

Kuschell likes to sponge off of these other successful people. HE is using our money to hobnob around with these "decent" folks.

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Patrick1957
Chicago, US
Jul 01, 2009 9:18 pm EDT

I haven't spoken with this John Phelps guy, however I did speak with another person who got me enrolled with Dan Kuschell's program.

I have been a member of Dan Kuschell's Protege Program for just over three months now. The information and resources he provides is phenomenal. I have been able to reach his staff easy. However I really haven't needed to because of all of the other training resources he provides. His program provides Group Training calls every week.

Since I have made the decision to take action on the information he has provided, rather than spending my time complaining, I have already been seeing results and generating income through my online businesses.

I haven't made $50, 000 yet, but that doesn't happen overnight, and Dan says that on his calls all the time. It is a process to build your business and it needs to build momentum.

I think it is such a waste of energy to spend your time complaining on websites. No wonder you haven't made any money in your online business. You obviously don't have the right attitude.

I was on here researching another company. And for the fun of it I figured I would check out some of the other companies I am involved with.

Dan's program is awesome, no wonder you're the only person who has posted a complaint. Why don't you put this same energy towards marketing, instead of complaining, genius...

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Anonymous Phx
Phoenix, US
Jul 19, 2009 9:42 pm EDT

People think they put a little money into something and they should come out rich while relaxing on a beach somewhere sipping wine. Get real people. Unless you win the lottery or a really nice inheritence comes your way--you will have to work one way or another for money.Whether it be online or behind a desk at the office. Whatever. Quit complaining and start working. Not all businesses are successful. It takes a certain kind of person to have a success business, and it's usually not COMPLAINERS.

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David ACV
Scottsdale, US
Jul 23, 2009 1:47 pm EDT

Hello,

My name is David and I am one of the support supervisors for the company.

I noticed some comments here on this site and wanted to give you the option of contacting us. If you are working the program and have ANY questions please feel free to contact us directly at: mentoring at achampionvision.com. or 800.211.4580.

We will be happy to help!

Sincerely,

David
Support Supervisor
A Champion Vision, Inc.

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f. wilson
lakeland, US
Aug 04, 2009 10:57 am EDT

of course these [censored] kissers are going to say positive things so they can keep their job that we pay for with the 6000 dollars

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f. wilson
lakeland, US
Aug 04, 2009 10:59 am EDT

only ones making the money is kuschell. i never once have dealt with tellman knudson. ron ross was the filthy liar that took me for all my retirement money

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SuJoy
IL
Aug 29, 2009 5:28 pm EDT

I found this site while doing some due diligence while considering this program.

I suggest that all legitimate complaints be submitted to the Better Business Bureau as A Champion Vision likes to refer to their A+ rating when prospecting. It was the first place they sent me to establish their credibility. No complaints to the BBB in 3 years - that's a great record. So, either they have a large list of very satisfied customers, or the unsatisfied ones don't know how to submit a legitimate complaint where it would make a difference: i.e. get their issue resolved; and provide useful information for anyone considering doing business with this company.

The only thing I see so far is a discrepancy between the guarantee promised me on the phone, the one given on the audio of Dan Kuschell they had me listen to, and what appears on the website with the outline of the program. All my questions and concerns will be posed to their rep, with whom I'm due to speak again in 2 days' time.

I have been through the Joe Vitale mentoring program for $8000, which promised a profitable web business within 6 months. It's 2 years later and I still don't have one. I know now that I didn't choose the right market, and that the program gave me a great deal of information - a lot of WHAT - but not enough HOW to do it. The how part was fairly superficial.

I also put $5000 into PPC classroom and my mentor there gave a few valuable tips, but still didn't give enough direction. It was always, "Yeah, go ahead and try that."

I plan to take responsibility for myself by continuing to request coaching and more specifics from both these programs until I get to profit. That's what I'm committed to.

I encourage others not to let a few experiences (not 'failures') keep you from your dreams. If others are doing what you want to be able to do, you CAN too. It's just a matter of perseverance and continuing to acquire the necessary skill set.

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weird ward
North Huntingdon, US
Aug 31, 2009 10:10 pm EDT

I do agree that Dan Kuschell's program does provide you with informative information. If you have a website that you can change accordingly. However, I do believe that paying for a mentor is a JOKE! Be your own mentor - strive to do what you can do- and strive to learn something new every day. We the suckers, are the reason these men are rich. No one gets rich by knowedge alone - they need people to help them get rich that is why he is so successful, he found a nitch, giving people knowledge they don't know. I wouldn't recommend his program - due to the fact, a lot of the things that he recommends I wasn't able to use in MY online business.

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HillBillyJack
Water Valley, US
Sep 03, 2009 2:21 am EDT

I really like the way I am treated like a person rather than just another number. The coaching staff has been nothing but helpful from the start! First I feel horrible for whoever you are that feels lied to. I've been there. Maybe now that you have the program you should try it. I read your comment and asked my advisory leader if she knew a Ron, She did, he hasn't even been there six months. So, that goes to show that you really shouldn't be giving advise to people just because you spent your money. Give yourself some credit. Christine helped me get enrolled. She was really a pro with eCurrency Arbitrage! I have her EX # if anyone wants to surely speak with an honest christian.

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Dr. Dan Kuralt
NYC, US
Sep 10, 2009 1:52 pm EDT

Wow! Raymond Wilson, sr account exec at champion vision in arizona coaching service just called me and spewed an earful of script oriented nonsense on the phone. When I interrupted him to get some clarification on what he had just said... it was like knocking him out of a trance and BIG SURPRISE... he was NOT ABLE to back up one single statement that he made. He did try to turn the conversation a few times to be 'about me' or try to question something that I mentioned but the tactic was purely diversionary... the company may have a BBB rating but IMHO not for very long - they are clearly running a scam intended to make people feel better about reaching their goals and having the potential to reach their goals but as this thread mentions, you get the distinct feeling that a scam is brewing.

I enjoy having a mentor but this is not something I am willing to pay for plus... think about what they actually offer... Dan is not going to be your mentor - you're going to get Jennifer or John or Ray or Rhonda and I guarantee you that if you have bought a few internet marketing products already... you will be miles ahead of these mediocre staffers.

RECOMMENDATION: AVOID THESE GUYS LIKE THE SWINE FLU...
As for Forest Gump aka Tellman Knudson... I am glad that he is doing something for others but don't get sucked into his vacuum of deception unless you enjoy throwing money out the window.

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brigid
jan juc, AU
Sep 13, 2009 8:27 am EDT

I too have been sucked in by these guys
I am so glad there are others out there who found Jennifer to be seriously hopeless.
Its not about the determination as I have since found a wonderful and helpful mentor and am now up and running. It was so easy I don't know why - after spending so much money with Kuschell they couldn't even help me get a web page up...crazy...and mean, I think.
I don't remember there being a "no refund" clause either. But apparently there is. I would like to see it.

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Steene
Phoenix, US
Dec 07, 2009 6:32 am EST

How are you doing in your coaching program? Are the coaches doing everything they said they would do? Sometimes the sales person can still be an honest person because they aren't given all the information.
This is Christina. (Former employee A Champion Vision, Inc) Thank You Jack for your kind words. At this point I am not sure if I deserve them. You see I was terminated on Friday for reasons I am not sure. I had questions, I have been waiting for months for someone to give it to me straight! So I admit I was a bit upset when my paycheck was all messed up. Not only the dollar amount but the whole thing. So I went to Global CFN to talk to someone who knew more and ended up meeting my HR Person for the first time. She had termination papers for me! What did I do wrong? I guess it was their way of fixing things.
Sorry about my sob story. I just want to say I am sorry if anyone I enrolled is having a less than satisfactory experience in the protege program. I still feel that you could get a lot out of the forum. So if you haven't logged in their you should.
I hope I am not stepping on toes with the Premier Coaching & Consulting call room. I really liked it there before everything changed.
-Christina

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colgirl79
Scottsdale, US
Dec 10, 2009 11:12 am EST

Dan Kuschell got us off our butts. Last year we purchased a new house, a new car and traveled a lot. Life is really fair. You get back what you put in.

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max_p
Scottsdale, US
Dec 14, 2009 2:38 pm EST

Dan Kuschell's coaching helped me get our business on track. We were able to more than double sales last year. Thank you Dan! We couldn't have done it without you!

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R_Mandell68704
US
Dec 17, 2009 9:19 am EST
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Dan Kuschell's program is really good. However it does require one thing: THAT YOU DO SOMETHING!

All that I hear here are WINNERS AND COMPLAINERS. I stand behind Dan's program. No matter what you do in life it does take at least some effort from you if you want a positive outcome. This forum sounds like all those weight loss forums where people enroll in a weight loss program and then complain because they don't lose weight but they have not done anything about it. There is no magic answer, you can have the best coaches in the world, the best tools, books, etc but if you don't do anything and just wine, that is all that you get: NOTHING.

I have had a very positive experience with Dan. I recommend that you put all the same energy and effort that you put in complaining into something better.

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K.Dev
US
Dec 28, 2009 10:52 am EST

I really like Dan Kuschell's mentoring program. I have been able to achieve a lot with it. Good luck to all!

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c h a m p i o n ! lol !
mesa, US
Feb 25, 2010 10:51 pm EST

i use to work for global cash flow network ! the company is a total scam ! they pay people to create traffic to your so called website to give you the illusion of how their advertising strategies work ! total ### ! everyone uses fake names !

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james roots
Kailua, US
Jun 12, 2010 3:10 pm EDT

i have also worked for global cash flow which is now automated cash secrets/premiere coaching all i have to say is we fed off of peoples hopes and dreams telling them that they can do whatever they want if they pay us a 1 time fee of 149.99-399 then they callyou 6 months later asking you for thousands of dollars to join there sucess team which is also jus a bunch of bull [censor] THIS IS A WARNING KEEP YOUR MONEY IN YOUR POCKETS RUN AWAY FROM DAN KUSCHELL

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phxscamsexposed
Coolidge, US
Jun 21, 2010 7:04 am EDT

DON LAPREE"S Former Employees have been scamming YOU since the 1990, s...You may have a handful that Dan has helped, but thats his sorry [censor] excuse to scam hundreds and thousands of innocent people...world wide! ... Phx scams EXPOSED

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Phoenix Scams Exposed
May 5th, 2010 7:48 am

Please be advised that GCFN, Premier, Mary Gersten, CMPS are all owned by a DAN KUSCHELL. Dan Kuschell is the creator of this internet scam going on 7 yrs. Dan Kuschell was the general manager for Don lapree’s 1-900 numbers back in the 1990, s and the Worlds Greatest Vitamin. Don Lapree was raided and shut down by postal agents. As far as we know he has been banned from any internet biz-op but may be working under another name in another country. Dan Kuschell uses Mary Gersten as his front. According to sources he is identified as Mary Gerstens mentor, employees are not to say that he is the owner all though he is at GCFN on a regular basis. He is well trained in persuasion, public speaking and travels frequently making contacts with lead providers like under ground cash secrets, bank Card empire( Bank Card Empire was shut down by postal agents in March/April 2010) & Many other internet Biz-op on the internet. These contacts will sell him buyer leads or people that inquired about HBB. In most cases these people(leads) have been already taken or scammed by these other Co. on the internet.

How they get the money: Once they make contact with a prospect they feed on their fears, job, economy, working for others, financial security of the persons family. empathize about the previous scams they lost money in and convince them that they are different HBB with excellent rating in /link removed/ dontgetscammedagain.com, honesty.com and others. Many of these site have been paid by GCFN to post positive reports about them.

The HOOK! Once they have you hooked in they sell you a level $199.00-$399.00 upto $2000 if the sales rep knows you have more money on the credit card. They repeat risk free frequently.

The LINE: Once you receive the package you call a level 1 media coach. He or she will tell you that you need traffic or your biz-op will not make it..They read a script verbatim that has been tested to work over and over with millions in results for them. They promise you guarantee of up to $25, 000 in 3 months or they will re-run your traffic. They never say that you will get your money back or get refund. Traffic is non-refundable. They also sell you TV ads, radio ads email blasts and so on. The traffic costs $3500-$6500

The SINKER: Once they establish you have an interest and ask you series of question about your finances they sink deep into you pockets even asking you to take loans out on your home, cleaning out all your credit cards to the max. The traffic you purchase is random traffic that they send to all member sites..They tell you its direct traffic and or co-op! You never actually know whats what..When you first get your site you will see direct and co-op traffic on your site numbers that have been on their previously.

The WEBSITE: The website is used so you can refer others into the program. you will get a percentage of the so called sale. Those people who inquire about info and get sold go through the same thing you do..Nothing accept 1 or 2 anchor checks for $10.00 to make you think it working.

The SUPPORT: They will answer the phone but never really help you. They just refer you back to a page in the binder that is out dated or the links don’t work. The employees are disciplined if they stay on the phone with you for to long or terminated.Too much info is a no no! The fear is that if the student finishes the 14 point check list and doesn’t make money than they will ask for the money back.

The REFUND: After one year if you don’t call and send all of the completed 14 point check list than you get nothing. If you do send the 14 point check list and made no money they coerce you into buying traffic with it. Traffic that don, t exist. If you call in within the first year and cancel they coerce you in staying with the program with a partial refund. If they approve a refund partial or not, expect to wait for 6 or more months for it.

The QUALITY TEAM: Quality management has a set goal of saving cancellations. They use many techniques each rep must meet saving at least 60% or higher of the cancellation of that day by partial refunds or convincing the people that they violated the terms of agreement and hoping they will hang up and not call back or giving them free bogus traffic or a coach to speak with for one on one etc. The quality team will save the co. approx $60, 000-$80, 000 in potential lost revenue a day.GCFN hold onto the money as long as they can.

The MONEY: Dan Kuschell has it all. The money is invested in various interest baring accounts world wide in different Co. Names. By the time you get any money back GCFN has made hundred of thousands of dollars interest and investments.

The MAGIC words: Attorney Generals Office, FCC, Lawyer, BBB. And even these words may not scare them into getting your money back. The AG will only send them a letter to to resolve. The BBB has a F rating on them so it don’t matter what you say. The FCC has too many complaints to handle amongst yours. A lawyer will not take your case without a retainer for $1000 but you reporting it does. The more the agencies receive the complaints than at one point or another they have to investigate them..The final results are like the governments example of a shut down and raid by postal agents and feds at 6 Bank Card Empire locations that have been shut down this year in PHX AZ!
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Phoenix Scams Exposed
May 5th, 2010 8:45 am

Dan Kuschell’s Lieutenant-President CEO/OFF THE RECORD

TEMPE AZ
1)Mary Gersten – Vice President- GCFN/CMPS/DIRECTOR
2)Kevin Huet- Center Manager- GCFN/CMPS/PREMIER
3)JOHN PHELPS- Center Manager- PREMIER OFFICE
4)ART LETTERMAN-LEVEL1 MEDIA COACH GM

Dan Kuschells Puppets: TEMPE AZ
1)Wade Matteson
2)Jerry Albert-FE Sales GM- the last name is a fake last name. He is a former state trooper for Washington state police.
3)Art Letterman-Level 1 Media Coach GM.
4)JOHN PHELPS-PREMIER CENTER MANAGER

SINCE THE EARLY 1990′S TILL NOW THESE PEOPLE HAVE SCAMMED HUNDRED AND THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE IN AMERICA AND ACROSS THE GLOBE OUT OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.
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DON LAPREE’S FORMER EMPLOYEES 1-900 NUMBER SCAM AND WORLDS GREATEST VITAMIN SCAMS. 1990′S.

DAN KUSCHELL-GM/CENTER MANAGER 24ST AND CAMELBACK IN PHX OFFICE.

KEVIN HUET- UNKNOWN JOB POSITION

ART LETTERMEN-MEDIA COACH

WADE MATTESON-QUALITY MANAGEMENT

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johnjon669
mesa, US
Aug 09, 2010 4:49 pm EDT

To the [censored] bag who reffers to bbb as credible what a [censor] the bbb is strickly for advertising if you have a business and you want instant advertising go to bbb and aaa they have been around the longest when you give them $$$ and discounts for garunteed customers people are so dumb the bbb is only advertising nothing else

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steve pargeter
Kingswinford, GB
Sep 20, 2010 9:47 am EDT
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i too made the same mistake first i joined mary gersten then comes Dan Kuschell and then to top it all off comes the tax club wanting another 6000 dollars to help me look after all the money i never made. Stay away from these people they are all con artists. i thenwent it alone using a few tips i got from these people even though i never made a dim and Dan Kuschell giving me a guaratee that i would make 50, 000 in my first 12 months no sorry an extra 50, 000. If you want any tips check out my home page www, timberprofiles.de or send me a mail.
info@timberprofiles.de my help is free and i dont ask anything in return.

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pay close attention
Tempe, US
Dec 12, 2010 3:33 pm EST

People...wake-up. You are chasing a pipe dream. The concept sounds good however when you think of what it will take to make this program work, it's not. Global Cash Flow Network is a business and their sales Do pay for employes paychecks...which by the way they make bank! I know from personal friends that have worked there. Dan's right hand man wasn't that 3 years ago. Kevin was the man of the hour then. Like I said...If t shoulds too good to be true then it robably is. I feel for the lower income, single parents and elderly that they seem to prey on. God Bless you all.

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pay close attention
Tempe, US
Dec 12, 2010 3:43 pm EST

The post that describes the system is true and reliable, I couln't have said it better. You are better off applying for a job at the tempe location however if you don't make your sales quota, you will be fired on the spot. The one thing that Kushcell is exceptional at is being the Scam of the century. Cnn you all say Karma!

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Samantha Robinson
Coconut Creek, US
Jan 14, 2011 10:01 pm EST
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**********IF YOU HAVE ISSUED ANY PAYMENTS TO A COMPANY THAT HAS NOT PROVIDED ANY SERVICES AND HAVE NOT RECEIVED A FULL REFUND PLEASE CONTACT US - We can get you a full refund if it has been within 18 months since the transaction. We have no upfront fees, or contract to be signed, and no personal information is needed to start the dispute process which on average takes about two - three weeks. If you have been a victim of another form of telemarketing fraud please let us know! --- [protected] Ext 401 --- email: mcooper@bcarecovery.com or srobinson@bcarecovery.com

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Verona
Vancouver, CA
Jan 21, 2011 9:16 pm EST

if anybody is interest lets start a LAWSUIT AGAINST THEM in small claims court - i am going to do this regardless but in numbers we have a great chance of closing these crooks down for good one once and for all - they say NO complaints to the BBB - take a look now - me alone have filed several complaint since they have ripped me off and dont have courtesy of even returning a call now

contact me at: verona.2010@live.com

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URQA
33615, US
Jun 30, 2011 8:00 am EDT
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If you only knew the truth...I do.
I feel very badly for all of you.

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michelle hates scamers
phx, US
Feb 03, 2012 7:46 pm EST

I use to work for that company but quit when I relized it was a scam company! John phelps is a totally fraud and a big bag of hot air..he use to be a security guard for pizza hut of all things before he learned from dan how to scam people and raymond wilson is a idiot a two time felon and a high school drop out .no one ever makes money off this but dan and his empoyees don't waste your time or money.there office is located in phx. off of broadway and 40th st behind qiznos...