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Rafter 6 Quarter Horses Ripped Off

I put a deposit on a horse and have a email from Christina saying I would get my money back if I didn't purchase him. This horse I was told had no bad vices -- he sat back when tied for one.
Even with the email saying she will send my money, I have just as many emails saying she sent my check and I never got it. She has several compliants that people have filed with the BBB, and has the lowest rating that a business can get. Now she moved to Lockhart?
She will hear from me and instead of her only having to pay me the 500.00 she owes, I'm slapping my attorney fees on top of it. I would not recommend anyone do business with her.

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Braiden Cagle
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Sep 12, 2010 10:35 pm EDT

Lies.

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Rafter 6 Quarter Horses Deceptive Trade Practices

Traded a APHA horse for a 2d barrel Horse for my 13yo, daughter rode her at their place of business horse did fine...made the trade! Got the horse home and my 13 yo tried to ride her at her 4h event and the horse was nuts and blowed up. Had a horse trainer ride her, the horse was nuts. Sold her to a profession well known barrel racer who sold her shortly after because the horse was nuts! When Rafter 6 was contacted about the situation and advised we wanted to trade horses back they said they had already sold my horse and that the horse had been beaten by its previous owner to make raun the patterns per Christine's assistant. Later talked to Christine and she claimed we had blew the horse up and they would not trade the horse back for anything they had. Wanted records to prove she was a 2d horse but would not and could not provide. Wish I had an attorney that would take this case. If you know of one, let me know.

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I attempted to purchase a pony from Rafter 6 Quarter Horses for use in a riding lesson program with small children. According to Rafter 6 Quarer Horses, the pony was gentle, obedient, rode English and Western, jumped, and would be suitable for my program. They required full payment in advance inorder to hold the pony until I could travel to see the pony and...

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Rafter 6 Quarter Horses Deceptive Trade Practice

Found guilty in Bastrop District Court for Deceptive Trade Practices. Evil people. Can not be trusted. Contact me for full story

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CowgirlTina
, US
Jun 13, 2009 9:38 am EDT

I had planned to go out to her ranch for the summer and work. I ride barrels & other speed events on my own horse, and she offered me a job working with and training some of her horses to sell. I went out there two years ago, and didnt have any problems like the ones I see being complained about now. Are these new problems?

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Rafter 6 Quarter Horses Deceptive business practice

Complaint against Rafter 6 Quarter Horses Red Rock TX. I have been making payments on a horse and now find the horse is still being offered for sale. They will not respond to e-mails or phone messages. So far have been unable to find if horse is even on ranch. Have found court a=cases involving deceptive business practices by this place. Address 885 Bateman Rd--Red Rock TX. 78662 Phone [protected]. Feel like I have lost my money paid so far over $2000.00 In contact with county sheriff's office . So far no action from them.

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karistubbslaw
Lampasas, US
Oct 08, 2010 3:25 pm EDT

I know that it is a year later, but I had to post what I know about Rafter 6 and Christina/Chris Beaver/Cagle, whatever name she is going by these days. Also, I believe she is also Bottom Dollar Ranch out of Dale, TX. If she is such an honest person, why is she changing her names and locations? I had a bad dealing with her a few years ago, but I fixed it and did not let her screw me, although she sure did try! I will not go into that, but I would like to say that she recently bought 14 horses at a horse sale and several expensive saddles. I bid against her on a horse there and lost. I realized later who she was after having dealt with her in the past. So, a few days later, I looked for this horse that I had wanted and found her on Craigs List for $9, 000! Christina had only paid $1250 for her. Well, a month later I got a call that the mare that I had wanted was back at the sale. Christina had closed her checking account that she had used to pay for everything! The sale barn went out to her house and repo'd everything, plus some to cover their losses. Happy ending, I did get the mare, but she had lost about 300 lbs in a month and was a little beat up! I had warned the sale barn owner about this girl and he said "he didn't care as long as her money was good", well it wasn't! So beware if she is going to write you a check for anything!

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Victoria Texas
Victoria, US
Dec 08, 2009 11:38 am EST

Update: We finally got a response after getting:

Detective Tamera Brown
Bastrop Police Department
Criminal Investigations Division
104 Grady Tuck Lane Bastrop, TX 78602
(Office) [protected]-5550 ext. 119
(Fax) [protected]

On her. We dont plan on suing her, apparently it does no good, but are going to proceed with "Horse Stealing Charges" (Its still a hanging offense in Texas on the books) maybe some time in a cell will clear her head. The response we got was an invoice she typed up saying we were even on four horses for various care charges and fees and then our gelding was apparently hit by lightning so she doesnt owe us anything on him, so we'r put five horses. She apparently sent us a graphic CD showing the horse after it was hit by lightning, CD turned out to be blank. We kept all her e-mails with different price's she'd sold horses for...

I Highly reccomend any one who has been ripped off call Detective Brown..Lets all join in with locking her up!

Gelding hit by lightning according to her was: "The One King Poco" registered by AQHA, if you know his where abouts, please contact us...We just want to know he's o'kay, our issue is not with new owner, its with horse Thieve Christina!

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ohhkierst
dallas, US
Oct 25, 2009 8:09 pm EDT

I bought Jody from her and I have still yet to make it out there to check and see if it is everything she says she is. Has anyone been out there recently or anything and has seen this horse. Cristina will not respond to my emails or calls. So i am at loss

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Michelle Starr
Mart, US
Oct 14, 2009 2:26 pm EDT

Two years ago, I brought a horse to Christina that had some minor training issues. He didn't collect/give to the bit and had trouble picking up one of his leads. Our agreement was that I was going to trade my 9 yr old registered Egyptian Arab named Shiloh Moniet for training on the other horse. I had raised Shiloh from a baby, and he was very smart and broke, but he tested people. I told Christina I had concerns about her selling him, because he needed to go to an experienced rider. We had emailed, but never talked in person, and the day I dropped both horses off, Christina didn't even come out of the house to meet me.

A couple of days later, I got an email and she claimed that Shiloh was her favorite horse and she was going to keep him forever, instead of sell him. However, I found his sale ad on the website and she was advertising him as safe for kids. Not so! Two months later, I went back to pick up my other horse. Both horses had lost about 150 pounds, and when I got the other horse home, it was obvious that she had done nothing with him. Now, I admit it's all my fault for being sucked in by her writing skills on the internet. She knows what people want to hear! Anyway, I finally got up the courage to email her and tell her how she ripped me off and did no training at all, and she now had my well-loved Shiloh! She then emailed me a story of how an employee who was working for her stole Shiloh and his registration papers. Now, I don't know where he is. He is a gorgeous typey white/gray Arab gelding about 11 years old and 15 hh. If anyone reading this board has him, please email me at starrzx2@aol.com or call me at home [protected]. I would take him back if the price is right. But, I really want to know that he's okay. My name is on his papers. Christina is a liar and a cheat, but if you check things out, she shouldn't get the best of anyone. I didn't check things out, because I believed every thing she told me.

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Michelle

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eemu12
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Oct 08, 2009 8:28 am EDT

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that they are in the business of selling horses...PERIOD! I bought 3 horses from Christina...all of them had problems that she did not disclose! I do accept a small portion of the blame but she is DECEPTIVE. I was contacted by a former employee of her's who validated the fact that one of the mare's I bought from her exhibited the problems while she was at the ranch. A normal pre-purchase exam would not have shown this issue. I tried to be diplomatic and I put my trust in her again by allowing her to try and sell my mare (making clear to her the mare needed to be a "one horse" pet...she had an issue that did not make her a canidate for being in a herd). I paid a surprise visit to the ranch...with trailer in tow..to see how things were going...I was shocked to find the mare with open wounds on her face and nearly crippled from the farrier job done on her...apparently they trimmed her hooves down so that she would sell as a "pony club" canidate. I got the horse off the property and canceled my check for her stay there! Her excuse for not trying to treat her was that the mare tried to "kill" her if she entered the pen. A sorry excuse for someone that calls herself a horse professional. The mare did act out around other horses but was perfectly fine with her human handlers. One of the geldings purchased had a cataract and the other gelding was missing most of his teeth. Once again I should have done more homework for sure! So if you actually buy from this women...pay for a vet check and use your own vet! I have spent much time and resources nursing all of the horses I bought from Christina...as far as the two geldings I would have purchased them regardless so she did not need to "hide" their flaws...it was very very DECEPTIVE Of her.

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Texas Gal Horse Lover
Burnet, US
Aug 12, 2009 12:16 pm EDT

Look here, new and not sure where/how to leave comments.

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Sergio, Victoria Texas
Victoria, US
Aug 05, 2009 12:24 pm EDT

WOW! Lots of negative comments and few positive, so here's my situation, see what you think?

We bought a gelding 2 years ago who turned out to be unpredictable, broke my wife's arm. We had him professionally trained for 60 days and trainer came to same conclusion, so we took him back to Christina to sell for us since our previous experience was so positive...We were informed she had brain cancer, but she agreed to take him and four other of our horses to sell. That was ten months ago. The two of the horses have been sold and she to our undestanding has three of them which she agreed to purchase...We e-mailed and called, her mother BJ told us that she had some issues in her treatment and that the check is in the mail, when we do get responses it's always the check's in the mail story, we've offered to drive down and pick-up the payment, but never get respnses. Look, we understand that she's going through a tough time, she's a mother and as I recall was married. I'm a nursing student getting ready to graduate in December and also worked oncology when I was in the military, its horrible what she's going through, I understand... My problem is that three of the horses belonged to my father-in-law, me I can blow off the loss, I just want the three that are left, returned, I'll leave it at that and make it up to my father-in-law...I dont want to take legal action, one, it seems like a waiste of time and two, I dont want to put the rest of the family through that at this time...

So what would you do?

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Nimi44
Aurora, US
Jul 06, 2009 6:17 pm EDT

Hello Everyone,
I just read all the comments posted on here... And I feel like I need to put my 2 sense in.. I've talked on the phone and written many e-mails to Christina.. And honestly, I believe she is a wonderful horse person.. I live several states away, so I have not met her in person. But I too used to breed, raise, train, show, and sell Arabians and Half-Arabians.. And I had to find new homes for them a couple of years back, because my life situtation changed, trying to raise a toddler around 14 horses, that did not work, especially being a single mom... So all my wonderful horses found new homes.. And I just want to say that the way Christina and I have been talking.. She sounds like me when I was trying to find a home for one of my horses, and the prospective buyer was out of state.. She has given me many fun stories and pictures of the horse I am interested in.. And I have been thrilled with the out come.. Plus we have talked about her being "sick" well for all of you out there.. Having brain Cancer and having to go through Chemo and Radiation is enough to make anyone sick.. I lost my Mom to Breast Cancer.. So I know the effects first hand.. And when Christina and I talk.. I know she is being truthful about her treatments.. And I also know about another client who came out and wrote her a very large check for one of her top stallions.. And what does it do? You guess it.. Bounce like rubber.. So I don't blame her only wanting to deal with cash.. How would you feel in her shoes? Now like everyone else.. I want this mare very badly.. But I am married to a Non-Horse person, and we have only been married a year.. And putting a house on the market is a drain on any bank account.. But like everyone else.. Life throws curve balls at you.. And you have to deal with the change.. So Christina was perfectly understanding about the sale not working out.. But her and I will stay in contact and will stay friends.. And next spring after we move, then I can look out the window and see my new best friend.. But I won't ever own 14 again.. I only want one.. And from all the time I've spent getting to know Christina.. I will buy my best friend from her..
So I just wanted to comment.. And I feel bad for the people that had a bad time.. But maybe you were not experienced in the horse business enough to realize.. That they are animals.. and just like humans they can and will wake up on the wrong side of the stall... You just have to be able to work it out of them.. I don't know try lunging in a round pen before you get on any horse.. A thought.. because believe me.. If a horse has a buck of a jump or something silly.. they will get it out while lunging.. And they already know at that point they are going to work.. So learn how to pick up on the horses feelings... Trust me.. They can give you some pretty good signs when they are feeling a little frisky.. So just a thought..
But like I typed earlier.. My finances are not great at the moment.. So the mare I want really bad won't work right now.. But next spring? Who knows what wonderful match she might have for my family.. So I will not buy a horse anywhere else.. And I wish I knew her when I had my hands full.. I would have loved to have had her connections to sell some of my horses in Texas.. That would have been great.. But life works in mysterious ways.. So now I know her.. And I think she is as genuine as they come.
So that is my feelings... And NO I am not Christina in diguise.. I just wanted to say my feelings...
Any questions... Please ask..

Nimi
Denver, CO
nimi44@msn.com

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cindy jones
, US
May 29, 2009 7:10 pm EDT
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I have dealt with Christina on numerous horse deals-- we have bought and we have sold with Christina and Rafter 6. All I can say is she did exactly what she said, the horse was AMAZING just like she said and everything we needed she saw to it we got. I wouldn't hesitate to buy a horse from Christina and those who have had bad experiences looks like it's largely to their incompetence or ignorance. If Christina says she'll make something right it has been my experience that she will do so.

Cindy Jones
Mason, Texas

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Mar 13, 2009 12:35 pm EDT

Horse trading is horse trading people and horse traders are horse traders. If this new breed of recreational horsefolk (with money but no horse sense) doesn't have the snap or the expertise to trade knowingly they need to hire an agent or better yet get a hobby where their ignorance won't get them or someone else maimed or killed. Horses are sentient creatures - not cars or motorcycles - there's no such thing as perfect or bombproof. Even the steadiest most proven mount can buck or rear when spooked and most especially when heavy, inexperienced hands get into their mouth. When the person on their back is pumped with adrenaline from fear, jerking their head around, the horse feeds off all that negative emotion and the results can be disasterous.

The bottom has dropped out of the horse market. For less than $500 one can pick up just about anything the heart desires at the local horse auctions - yet these complaints are about spending thousands - get off the computer - get an equine education - any statement true today of a horse can be undone tomorrow by the wrong rider.

And, for the record, I'm nobody in disguise, and have never had a dealing with the horse trader everybody is up in arms about. From what I'm reading some folks with more money than horse sense are over horsing themselves or trying to unload their ownership responsibilities through consignment sales and it's just not turning out like they envisioned.

Who buys a horse on a payment plan while paying boarding? If you can't buy it outright, you sure as heck can't afford to support it. The cheapest part of horse ownership is the cost of the horse. If you don't know that, you are already in over your head. Sounds like the folks who are defending knew what they were doing and those who are complaining didn't. That's why it's called horse trading and rule number one is Buyer Beware.

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