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[Resolved] Axiom or Smartkurve or Edknovate / Axiom are the Worst Agent in Bangkok

5 Thailand Review updated:

Kirk Phatumanun is one of the most untrustworthy and dishonest.

I find Kirks behaviour childish, unprofessional and gutless. He does not have the strength of character to answer my questions over pay (or lack of it) In fact I think I have seen more courage in the kindergarten than i have experienced with this guy.
Kirky, if you are reading (put the Big Mac down) please read the following very carefully, as you will find it useful in the future:

If you have something to say, or someone to rob, the professional, proper and polite cause of action is to contact the employee and say it, even if you are robbing them blind. Failure to do so will result in more and more teachers turning their backs on you and the demise of your tiny little empire. Very soon, even the great Father Phatumanun will turn his back on you- and you will be all alone.

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  • Wi
      Oct 08, 2011

    I understand your pain BangkokArjarn, this guy has been doing these kind of sleezy things for the past FULL YEAR NOW!! He is so incredibly stupid and just keeps getting more and more stupid with his repetitious lying and unprofessional ways. (Yet please understand he always claimed to me that he was the upmost professional in all situations.
    If you read this, "Kirky" (as BA has called you), What a fat liar you are! You have screwed over so many people beyond repair and trust me, I know your business is in trouble. (Don't worry BA, Kirk's "empire" has already pretty much collapsed around him. Also, you're not the first teacher to quit on him. He's lost many many MANY teachers in the past full year than anyone else I know).
    As we've all told you before Kirky and now BA, you are nothing more than a shameful most distrusting, (and volatile) unprofessional individual I've probably ever met here before.
    Just face your fate and relinquish your business. Your time is finished.
    Otherwise, you will just continue to get more and more hate mail for every teacher you screw over. We are all making absolute sure word gets out that you are a complete and utter fraud.
    Have a nice day now

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  • Wi
      Oct 11, 2011

    Update!! Update!!
    To all those possibly considering (or whom are already potential candidates):
    Kirk The Jerk has just posted a new ad for this upcoming semester for his ### company named SmartKurve (formally Edknovate, formally Axiom Recruitment).
    BEWARE!!!
    If you jump aboard you will be walking down a road you would have never wished you went on to begin with!
    Kirk is a COMPLETE liar. He lies lies lies about everything.
    He will promise you a position; = complete lie
    You are promised a specified salary; = complete lie (you will not be paid in full or at all in some cases) *In the ad just posted on October 10th 2011, he is promising 32 to 42, 000 Baht per month...Yah right!!!
    DON'T BELIEVE A WORD OF THIS! No one is paying that high around here.
    He promises all kinds of other incentives in the course of your start with his company; = more lies
    He will treat you like a prominent employee; = utter lie!
    He will instead threaten you by either physical harm or by "suing you"
    He is professional; = complete lie
    Just read all of the bad complaints on this website about his company and they will tell you just how "professional" he is. From running down the street yelling things at this one girl, to threatening someone else by saying he would KILL THEM in their home!
    Does that sound like a perfectly normal acting "professional"??

    Guys PLEASSSE don't apply with this company. You will regret it 101%.
    (I guarantee you)
    As for you Kirk The Jerk, you will fail this term just like you did the first term, AND last year.

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  • Wi
      May 28, 2012

    Hey Kirk, just in case you read this, us guys in the community are still watching your every move.
    It's quite apparent in the past week or so that SmartKurve still hasn't reversed stances on hires and how they are treated. So far there have been four posts from SmartKurve in the past few weeks and it's even more obvious that this agency is having trouble bringing people in. Hmmm. Maybe because they continue to dig deeper holes rather than figure a way to get out of them.
    For all of you who don't know 'Kirk the Jerk', he is no more than a cunning, lying, dishonest and extremely volatile individual.
    He's made personal threats of injury to almost all the people who have worked under this company.
    He also sent a picture of himself holding a semiautomatic rifle to a former teacher as a warning (which I will try and find from my emails and upload to this website).
    Kirk has even tried to threaten me just for posting about his company. His efforts are that of a coward and is only doing it to try and silence anyone who will try and expose his bad business practices.
    Even now, his continuous posting on the job sites is almost an attempt to try and tell us "Haha, you guys think you can stop me and my company?
    Even moreover, whenever we tried to expose what he had done to other employees he would always sing the same song about how, "The falang screwed me over" and that once again, it's OUR fault and WE were the cause of all that has happened to him.
    Kirk wake up and smell the coffee! Everything that has happened to you (and continues to happen to you by the looks of your frantic and "urgent vacancies" postings), is BECAUSE of you! Obviously I'd say it's true that a leopard never changes it spots.
    I'd bet 500, 000 Baht that the same thing is happening now. People apply, get hired, he lies about what he'll do for them, refuses to pay, or more than likely, makes threats, and the employees leave.
    Stupid people never learn though I guess.

    The last statement I'll leave you with is this (and for once just TRY and wrap this sentence around your head and learn to accept the faults you continue to make).
    A happy teacher tells her or his colleagues about their experience with a company. An unhappy teacher will tell EVERYONE about that company and to stay the heck away from it at all costs.

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  • Ki
      Jun 03, 2012

    wittlefish is one gay individual with no life to speak of posting about other people that's my conclusion

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  • Da
      Jun 09, 2012

    BTW wittle fish next time of posting please use your real name of Darren Kingsley Hammerton if you feel that you are so righteous about bad mouthing a company M9458611 [protected]@hotmail.com

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  • Da
      Jun 09, 2012

    Here you go Darren https://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/darren-kingsley-hammerton-pedophile-teacher-c611749.html

    -1 Votes
  • Wi
      Jun 30, 2012

    Yeah okay Kirk. Trying to pose as not one, but two individuals in an attempt to post multiple comments about me.
    Also, "no life" and "gay individual"? I'm merely doing what any person with integrity would do. Warn others about bad news so that they too don't get tangled up in a mess of disarray.
    That second quote really shows YOUR lack of professionalism and you have the maturity level of a little kid. You've lost more employees than you can count through your volatile and unethical behavior. Your telling me I'M unprofessional?
    This from the man who's screen name is 'Darrenisadickhead'??
    Also, still got that pride thing goin' on too huh? Can't admit to your pinnacle of faults and wrongdoings to everyone?

    +2 Votes
  • Ca
      Jul 09, 2012

    Wow. I've no idea what's going on or who is at fault here. I do know this: I was researching Smartkurve to prep for an interview I have with them later today. I won't even be going. Even if they're both crazy, caution is a good idea.

    +1 Votes
  • Ki
      Jul 10, 2012

    Well I don't know who's crazy but a pedophile complaining about a company, someone should get his info and arrest this Darren guy.

    -1 Votes
  • Ki
      Jul 10, 2012

    Also Darren with your profile with your name on this board when someone Google you there won't be a school wanting to touch you with a yard stick. Also the company has secured with even more top-tier schools in Bangkok now so. It's all about supply and demand of the governmental contract and there is nothing that you can do LOL

    -1 Votes
  • Wi
      Jul 15, 2012

    Actually, it's a fact very few people are going to want to 'hire you' as their employer' after the waterfall of bad news there is about you.
    Perhaps there is nothing I can do okay, but your touting of the fact you have (and soon will be 'had'), top tier schools will probably be short lasted.
    The first school you secured in 2010 booted you after just one year.
    Also, there is one main thing that people can still do, and that is, post their experiences on here as freedom of expression.
    In retrospect to your second to last comment, you are the person who's crazy. Making threats against all those people like Ben, Fogo, Niels, Hannah, Jeff, Benoit, Jimmy, Alexei, ...I mean, the list goes on and on. Dude, who do you think you are fooling?
    Finally, your quote from your most recent comment could not be more ironic,
    "A pedophile complaining about a company"...
    Ah dude??? That's what this website's for hahahaha.
    Now have a nice day and go get those top tier schools!

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  • Be
      Aug 09, 2012

    Yes I have worked for kirk and his policy is that pay is a optional perk that comes with teaching. Sometimes you get half and sometimes you never get anything, you have to go on a small strike just to get the money your owed and repeat next month and the one after. He only pays you a bit so you stay longer in hope of getting the money your owed.

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  • Ma
      Aug 18, 2012

    I think the best thing to do guys is just stay away from 'agencies' altogether. In my experience their nothing but trouble and hassle. Working directly through a school is the best way to go.

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  • Go
      Aug 26, 2012

    This SmartKurve guy is a coward. I went for an interview with this ### today and he wasn't even there. He turned up 30 mins later with a volatile temper and attitude. I told him he was an arrogant, bad mannered ### to his face inside his house. As I was walking up the road he starts abusing me from a far away distance. When I turned back to confrote him, he ran back inside his house. What a coward. Then he was shouting abuse from his balcony knowing I couldn't get to him. Complete coward and obviously mentally sick.

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  • Cc
      Sep 17, 2012

    Accusations about someone being a pedophile is very serious Kirk. I don't know the person you accuse but there are a few things worth commenting on here:

    1) Kirk says both that "wittlefish is one gay individual" and also talks about "misconduct with a minor school female student". Which of them is it?

    2) If there was any substance in this, why is it posted on an on-line forum by the nickname "Darrenisadickhead"? That doesn't exactly make it appear credible.

    3) I know from experience that Kirk is a complete liar.

    I must also advice everyone to stay away from this horrible and wicked company! Seriously, if you step in there you will absolutely regret it!

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  • Kf
      Oct 04, 2012

    Be careful...they now withhold their company name...so if applying for a job through esl Thailand and you will receive a reply very quickly...''Our office is located in Ekkamai Soi 28'' please call 080-900-1820''...TEACHERS STAY AWAY!!!ITS ###!

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  • Br
      Nov 19, 2012

    About thai job agent Smartkurve Smart Kurve (not smartcurve) or formally Edknovate, formally Axiom Recruitment.

    Unfortunately i can confirm what most people say.
    Sometimes you don't get paid or usually only half or even less so you cannot leave.
    Every month you stay longer the worse it gets.
    Promises will be made by Kirk about getting your visa and work permit but it'll never happen.
    This is the worst thai school agent i have ever seen to be honest.
    Bad school agents will always be there but this one is worse.
    Hope my comments might help future teachers in Thailand and Bangkok to avoid people like Kirk Pathumanun!

    Address details:
    Kirk Pathumanun
    Chief of Operation SmartKurve
    Head Division Kurveconnect.com
    916/13 – 14 Sukhumvit 55, Klongtonnuer, Wattana, Bangkok, 10110‎ – TEL/FAX 02-714-9138 OFFICE MOBILE 080-900-1820
    [protected]@smartkurve.com
    [protected]@smartkurve.com

    Address and exact location Smartkurve Ekkamai 28 - Google maps:
    http://goo.gl/maps/ZusHh

    Picture of the guy:
    https://is1.4sqi.net/userpix_thumbs/D5003TZQ45SG4U3G.jpg

    Website:
    http://www.smartkurve.com

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  • St
      Nov 29, 2012

    For thai schools:
    บริษัทตัวแทนจัดหางานในกรุงเทพฯ ไม่จ่ายเงินเดือนครู
    Smartkurve.com คือ บริษัทตัวแทนจัดหางานไทยบริษัทหนึ่งซึ่งให้บริการจัดหาครูต่างชาติส่งไปยังโรงเรียนต่างๆ ทั้งในกรุงเทพฯ และรอบๆ กรุงเทพฯ
    นายเกริก ปทุมอนันต์ (Kirk Pathumanun), ผู้บริหารของ Smartkurve (Chief of Operation SmartKurve, Head Division Kurveconnect.com) ผู้ขึ้นชื่อในการไม่จ่ายเงินเดือนครู ถึงแม้ว่าครูเหล่านั้นทำงานให้เขาเต็มเวลาก็ตาม. เขาเรียกเก็บเงินจากโรงเรียนที่อยู่ภายใต้สัญญากับเขาเต็มจำนวนแล้วปล่อยให้โรงเรียนเหล่านี้ต้องตกที่นั่งลำบากเมื่อครูเหล่านั้นไม่ได้รับเงินเดือน. นี่คือคำเตือนออนไลน์สำหรับโรงเรียนไทยและผู้ที่ต้องการหางาน หรือ คุณครูต่างชาติที่กำลังมองหางานสอนภาษาอังกฤษในกรุงเทพฯ ไม่ว่าอย่างไรก็ตาม ขอให้หลีกเลี่ยงตัวแทนจัดหางานที่ผิดกฎหมายนี้ด้วย

    Some of his ads on Workcircle.com:
    Need Native English Teacher (Bangkok)
    SmartKurve (Thailand) Company Limited is currently seeking qualified Native English Speaker applicants for an immediate start in the second semester of the academic year 2012 to 2013. All teaching positions available are located within Bangkok Metropolis.

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  • St
      Dec 22, 2012

    IT SEEMS THIS MONKEY BUSINESS MOVED AGAIN ?!
    Please keep this thread alive with the latest details about Smartkurve if you are a victim and know about their whereabouts...
    A final mugshot...in case you forgot who it is about or to warn others for this teacher trap...

    Additional Domain Info: Registrant:
    Capital, Ample Sea
    ARC condo, 299/160 Veebhavadee road
    soi 62
    Bangkok, Duangmung 10210
    TH
    Domain Name: SMARTKURVE.COM
    Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
    Capital, Ample Sea @gmail.com
    ARC condo, 299/160 Veebhavadee road
    soi 62
    Bangkok, Duangmung 10210
    TH
    6618898889

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  • Sm
      Feb 22, 2013

    Let me tell you how this guy operates and gets business. He usually has the lowest bid at schools in the bidding process, For example at the school on Pahon Yothin His bid was 45, 000 baht per teacher and then paying teachers 30.000-32.000baht, So his margins for profit is very low. He makes more money during the contract by cheating the teachers, In the school I was at he would underpay them and then they would just leave (more profit) He would not cover absent teachers, other teachers would have to cover not get extra pay and he deducted from the absent ones(more profit) Clearly this company doesnt pay tax or certainly not the required amount for his teachers employed, So he makes more there. Teachers are promised Work permits, Which never materialize. A liar.He would place spy teachers and regular co ordinators among teachers to get information about what the teachers are talking about. I wrote to the director of the school, (it was in Thai and English) explaining how I was cheated, Fired after 6 weeks of the semester November 2012-December 2012 No salary, The school did nothing, No attempt to help a teacher, as was the case with teachers the previous semester, Clearly there is some corruption going on with Smartkurve and those involved with the contract for the school. Bearing in mind this school has an academic English Science Social and maths programme for fee paying students, The fact they are using such a disreputable agancy is cheating the Students and the parents who pay the fees.
    I also wrote in Thai letters to the Thai Labour Department informing them of this company's activities, Can only assume nothing is being done as yet, . All Teachers keep the pressure up and do your research before ever going to this guy's agency whatever name he likes to use.

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  • Sm
      Feb 23, 2013

    Further to Liar and Illegal company that Smartkurve is, The way he is unable to retain thai staff is a clear example of his disrepuatble behavior, as soon as they leave he has to block all access they had to email accounts and information they had. Nobody stays with him for very long, He has so called departments, named legal, and academic account. All ###, The only person he even marginally trusts is his current wife.Whatever you do dont be afraid of this guy, He can do nothing, He so called has an advisor to an MP who he thinks covers his misdealings. If the Thai Labor department, The Tax office do their job he should be pout of business soon enough, They have received all relevant information about this guy and whether corruption saves him remains to be seen, . The real ones who can stop him are the schools. They must be informed about his activities, And they are, letters going out, in thai and English language to them, The day of reckoning is coming soon

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  • Sm
      Feb 23, 2013

    A new email address for all those with information on this illegal company [protected]@gmail.com

    +1 Votes
  • Hu
      Feb 28, 2013

    you will never meet a bigger rip-off artist than these fools at smart kurve. seriously.

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  • So
      Mar 01, 2013

    Comments from Hotcomplaints.com website: They are now at this office, a seedy shabby officeblock and it has "HR Office" on a frosted glass panel. SmartKurve Office 916/13 – 14 Sukhumvit 55 (thonglor), Bangkok, Thailand 10110, Thailand
    Post your comments about this company on Scamfound, Eslteachersboard and www.eslteachersunited.org/SchoolReview/reviews/view/73 as well.

    Maybe somebody with a google maps link ?? Maybe a translation in Thai? Picture?

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  • Sm
      Mar 01, 2013

    Maybe it's the teachers who are "fools" for working for this guy. The tragedy is the Schools in Bangkok should be ashamed of using such a disreputable business, and the Ministry of Labour who know about them should be taking action, They have been given the information

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  • Wi
      Mar 03, 2013

    Hi Mark. I've read your comments and very glad and proud to see that others are still following in putting this guy up on a pedestal for all to see who he really is.

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  • Wi
      Mar 03, 2013

    As for Kirk. You've been backed into a corner. Just give it up man. Is this REALLY worth it? Constant complaints and negative feedback? And trust me man. It'll KEEP coming month after month and year after year and people are NOT going to stop posting.
    Take a look at how many pages, posts, and comments there are about your shoddy company! This has been going on for TWO SOLID YEARS NOW!! How stupid can you possibly be?? Oh wait I can answer that. VERY stupid.
    Get the word out people! Kirk is the most distrusting, lying, unstable, and most mental person I've EVER met in this country. No one else has ever topped his reputation.
    Rest assure though buddy. You will NEVER have a legitimate company in our eyes and hopefully not in many others either.
    This year has the number 13 in it. I hope your luck runs out soon.

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  • Sm
      Mar 05, 2013

    .Need to get a facebook page up about this psycho and his business . It can be done easy, look out for news

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  • So
      Mar 16, 2013

    Need to get latest details right first...correct address details and all...!!!
    Anybody knows Thonglor very well?

    916/13 – 14 Sukhumvit 55 that would be here right?
    URL:
    http://goo.gl/maps/UAYAC

    Also: teachers or anybody looking on the internet for jobs or schools in Bangkok, Thailand will probably find (smartkurve) joblistings sooner or later...but what we want is that they ALSO find these job complaints about this company. Therefor we need to post both kinds of content here (complaints + job details)...like jobs in bangkok, teaching positions bangkok, agents in bangkok, bad school agents, bad schools in bangkok, nightmare jobs, nightmare schools, scams, frauds, nes teachers, native speaker jobs, english teaching teacher jobs, full time contract, part time contract, agencies agents who not pay salary etc etc...
    Post your comments about this company on Scamfound, Eslteachersboard and www.eslteachersunited.org/SchoolReview/reviews/view/73

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  • Sm
      Mar 16, 2013

    Phatumanun only survives by the skin of his teeth by hand outs and corruption and kick backs he hands out to those who do business with him..., Well it was ever thus in Thailand.

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  • Co
      Mar 20, 2013

    Here's the joke, he tries to make out there's a legal department, and an HR department, when it is quite clear from the poor standard of his English that both make the same basic grammatical and vocabulary errors.

    I also urge ANYBODY thinking about taking up a post with this guy to steer WELL clear. He is not beyond violence, he seems to come across as a psychopath and if you upset him he threatens legal action and even throws paedophile accusations around out of pure spite. Contact schools directly. Please do not touch this guy's agency. Please note there is now a subreddit http://www.reddit.com/r/TEFLBlacklist

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  • Sy
      Mar 23, 2013

    pathetic fools nothing is going to change, you are all worthless parasite that hide in the profession of teaching. If you would have any real skills you wouldn't be stuck here, Mark Shane, Darren Hamilton and Narett Winn LOL

    -2 Votes
  • Th
      Mar 23, 2013

    Wow, the agent is actually taunting the people he ripped off!...just wow! Anybody reading this please try and share it far and wide..make this agency parasite's reputation viral.

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  • Sm
      Mar 24, 2013

    sympathytoesllosers.. Really Tosser, ? Working for a international language school. So you know our names? Must be either Kirk the Illegal cheater or one of his ###. Just remember we arent finished with their cheating and this page is just "ONE" outlet

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  • Sm
      Mar 24, 2013

    Teachers refer to the schools and get them to take action.Fact is they are complicit with the agency, (smartkurve) They KNOW teachers are cheated, Directors and heads of dept get kickbacks for awarding contracts to agency it's just how the system works in Corrupt thailand

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  • Sm
      Mar 24, 2013

    So "sympathytoesllosers: you know the names? You must be either The Fraudster and illegal Pathumwan . or one of his revolving subordinates, Just remember we havent finished with your business and this webpage is only one of our outlets, I for one will NEVER let this drop.

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  • Es
      Mar 24, 2013

    Thank you for confirming your identity we will pass your personal information to the police. Have a great day

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  • Sm
      Mar 24, 2013

    And two teachers will come forward to tell of a time when they went to get their salary owed, after many weeks with holding, at an office, a certain person came down with a baseball bat threatening them

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  • Sb
      Apr 02, 2013

    No offense but after reading your review i found a ... tasha!!! (guess what!)

    So...you cannot write and you cannot read...but again who cares. You are one of the illiterates in your country it seems!?

    Don't pollute the database with your useless comments and others (me) will follow!

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  • Sb
      Apr 02, 2013

    Thanks for helping spreading THE WORD...owwwww you said some about Kirk. Now he's going to get you!!!

    I have examples, I have examples, I have examples...you sure do tasha 14 years. Use them against me, be a troll...feels good right? Arghhhhhh

    Print them out and hang it up in your bedroom...under your pillow! SCREAM baby...

    Do it for everybody here. Ill post some more mistakes ok? You're a hero.

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