integracionemocional.com review: Seminar with shivagam

Hello, my name is Michael Stanley I have been associated with Shivagam and his school integracionemocional.com since 2016 and I have taken many classes with him up to level 3 (took this level 3 times) and his online seminars and live classes and sessions on Youtube. I have had private sessions with Laksmi and vay bakti and Luciana and several others who are all I believed ordained in the Mahajyra. In 2019 I met Shivagam (his name is Carlos and I see that he has commented on this thread) and Maha in a one week seminar here in El Paso Texas I believe in the month of October. I enjoyed meeting Maha, he engaged me in a tough way but I am used to that since I come from a Military family. But my encounter with Carlos Shivagam was the most disappointing and I want to say shocking encounters of my life. This is the great Shivagam? No mames! I went up to him and told him that I was his student which for sure he must have seen me in his zoom classes, I told him he was doing good work and I thanked him. He looked at me and then walked away with no comment. I felt I was in the presence of evil. Not an exaggeration. I then went up to him again a few hours later and told him I was going to get a skin treatment for my nose and wanted a mantra and he motioned somebody to come over and “assist me” with Om Shanti Shanti Shanti mantra. He didn’t have time to tell me 4 words? Then he was making himself a coffee at the and I went up to him, he turned his back to me. Maha came up and engaged me, asked me what I was doing there. I told him I was a student of Shivagam. Shivagam kept his back to me all the time. I was talking to Maha about Shivagam, how I was his student and what I was studying, and Shivagam kept his back to me all the time. I was his student and he was my teacher. Well, I was his customer. Why would he act that way? Who the hell is Shivagam? What kind of creep is Shivagam? This is the Great Shivagam? Again, no mames! That was 3 and a half years ago and I haven’t been able to return to my studies of emotional integration and haven’t been able to watch his videos. I recently came to the conclusion that I have to accept that Shivagam is a phony spiritual leader. Carlitos is a clown. Carlitos es un payaso 🤡. Then talking to others like Laura Palacios in Argentina who was his teacher, she had a similar experience with him. I know that Luciana is no longer using his methods. I have talked to maybe 6 people that have had similar encounters with him and being disparaged and shamed by him and spending years having to “integrate”. A type of gaslighting I would say. I would like to say that that is his technique and he detects what you need, maybe you are arrogant and you need him to gaslight you and give you the silent treatment to trigger your pride, like emotional integration teaches, so that you can address it. Like in some way he is this all-knowing guru that immediately detects what you are lacking and challenges you to overcome that. After 3 and a half years I can not fool myself with that “compassionate” attitude. There is something deeply not right with this man. I have been around narcissists before and unfortunately it feels there is some type of personality disorder going on with him, or some level of autism. I am no expert - All I know is what I experienced. It would be different if he knew me personally and he was my teacher-guru and he had periodic interactions with me and could give me counseling and “tough love” and feedback. But this dude just meet me in person. It seemed he didn’t give a [censored] who I was, he was basking in the light of being Maha’s translator! Maha was his guru and Shivagam is the guru of nobody! I have been his student, a paying customer for almost 4 years at that point. He treated me bad, and this has nothing to do with tough love and triggering my pride. Again, there is something not right with this man. I have recently tried to get past this experience, I signed up level 4 of integraciónemocional.com. I sent Maha a messenger message and told him I needed help with overcoming this problem and I would like a paid consultation. He said for me to contact Luciana who I had previously already had around 100 sessions with and she seems to no longer believe in the program, or Sukisam, who told me he no longer provided consultations. I sent an email to Shivagam staff (there is no access to Shivagam directly) and told them what had happened to me and that I wanted to continue with the school and level 4 but that I had a terrible experience with Shivagam and I would like to talk to Shivagam and would pay to do it because I didn’t know who Shivagam was and I needed to get past this impasse. I had watched his videos for hours and I felt I knew him, as much as you can by watching videos, and being in online classes with him, but when I met him in person he was just like this “chalan” of Maha, his translator and he seemed like a bad person, even a sociopath. They said it was not possible for Shivagam to talk to me directly but that I could consider going to one of his seminars in person and maybe I might have the opportunity to talk to him. But I already went to one of his seminars (well it was a Maha seminar) and I didn’t have access to him even in person - remember the silent treatment and gaslighting - some type of drama there.

So I only meet Maha that one time. I don’t understand his organization. I don’t understand how Shivagam fits into his loose knit organization. I don’t understand how the 21 masks of the ego come from Buddhism. He seems sincere. I know people swear by him. He doesn’t say crazy random things, maybe to tweak people and challenge them, I don’t know. As far as Shivagam, I just don’t know what to make of him. There is something not right with this man. It seems like possibly there is a cult here in the making or already a cult. If you watch his videos the comments are “dear leader” type of brainwashed comments. “ Shivagam you are the greatest, you saved my life.” Again I would like to err on the side of caution and justify how he treats people as being part of his “training techniques” he has said that he shuns people in his seminars that comes to him “for love”. Why would he do that? If tony robbins can give love to an audience of 10,000 people, why can’t Shivagam give love and support to a room of 40 people? He has said that since he is gay he doesn’t want to be stereotyped as being too effusive etc. Okay, why don’t you go and “integrate” that for crying out loud, isn’t that your program? I guess if you are able to overcome his bad treatment of you and develop compassion for a disturbed person like Shivagam, at the end you will be a better person. But why wouldn’t he want to help you in the process of growth, why would he want to traumatize you and become and obstacle for you? I don’t get it. My conclusion: The emperor has no clothes. Carlos is a clown. El emperador va desnudo. Carlitos es un payaso. Best strategy: Stay away from Shivagam ie Carlos. I think him using the name of Shiva is a disgrace.

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