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Posted: 2010-01-14 by   bluedog1
Short Sale
Complaint Rating:  100 % with 11 votes
Company information:
Bank of America
United States
www.bankofamerica.com
Sorry about spelling or grammer, the following is my log. I am usually so made after dealing with them I can't think or write.<br />
Bank of America<br />
Sent short sale packet on 10/27<br />
Called to confirm and was asked to send additional information on 10/30<br />
(letter of non-employment, P and L statement, listing agreement, verification of buyer funds)<br />
Was asked to send form authorizing release of information to Traci Kemnitz 11/17<br />
Somewhere in here, B of A and Countrywide merged short sale operation and all hell broke loose. Called every day, was told data was supposed to be transferred from one system to another. To call back tomorrow. I did that for a week straight.<br />
Was told on 11/23 they had none of the information I had sent to them. Re sent it all.<br />
11/23 Keith re-took my information over the phone, told me to resend packet and would receive a call back in 5 days. Then talked to Miguel in short sale, he said they would not even receive information for 10 days and not to call back until then.<br />
11/30 got collection call from Maria ext. 7518, Keith never put in information that he took over the phone, nor information that I had an offer pending and was requesting a short sale.<br />
Maria re-took the information and told me this time it was entered. <br />
Called back on 11/30 and automated system said more information would be available on Dec 9th.<br />
Called back on 12/9 and spoke to Silverio, he told me information has been received and to call back on 12/13 to get the name of my negotiator.<br />
Called back on 12/13 and Spoke to Ginger. No negotiator has been assigned. Purchase and sale agreement had been downloaded into system, but no other info. She said she took the necessary step to send it to a negotiator, which would take 10 business days to get one assigned. She said to call back the end of the month. She also said to fax the Authorization to release information form to 805-520-5019. Evidently, I had faxed the authorization to the wrong fax number, even though I faxed it to the one they had as return fax number on the form.<br />
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12/16 Spoke to Shelly Graham and she said that a negotiator has not been assigned yet, but that we should have one any day now. However, once it is assigned, the negotiator has 10 business days for what is called "Phase I", review of file and offer. On January 4th we can call back and discuss Phase II, which is 30-45 calendar days of negotiations on price and offer, appraisal most likely. Then Phase III is another 10 business days to close. <br />
12/21 Recording I got, “ A work out negotiator is reviewing your request for assistance and collection activities have been temporarily been suspended during the review process we will complete and thorough examination of and analysis of your loan we may or may not need additional information from you but it is common you will not hear anything form us during the review period. We expect to have more information on Jan 18th 2010. Please do not Call us before then as that may delay the process but if we contact you make sure you respond promptly as failure to do see can cause your work out to be canceled.” I went through the process to speak with someone because I had received a phone call from someone with B of A last week, and got David on the phone. did. He told me no negotiator had been assigned. He also said when an automated message is generated it usually shows up on the file. That recorded message wasn’t showing up on my file. I asked him to make sure B of A was not in need of additional information from me at this time, as I was contacted by them last week, and had asked them to call me back, which they never did. He told me no additional information was needed. He said the file had went to shortsale on 12/14, they have 10 business days to assign a negotiator, until 12/29, if one isn’t assigned by 12/29 I am to call and request an escalation to assure a negotiator is assigned. He told me once a negotiator is assigned they have 20 business to work on the file before making a recommendation.<br />
12/21. I called back later in the day to record the recorded message which I did. I then got nervous because verbiage was for a work out negotiator not a short sale negotiator so I went through the process to talk to Debbie. I read Debbie the message word for word, I will paraphrase her response. She told me to disregard that message. 90% of the time they are false. She had put in a request to her supervisor because numerous people had been calling in and requiring about incorrect messages. She told me never to obey the do not call time lines. She said that information is false, and in no way would calling in slow or delay the process. She reiterated what David had said, 10 days to assign a negotiator. I then told her what David had told me, to call back on 12/29 and request an escalation. She said that is correct.<br />
Traci called me to tell me a negotiator had been assigned and they called her about ordering an appraisal.<br />
1/5/09 Called and spoke to Johnson after being on hold for 25 minutes. Negotiator is Timothy Nickels, e-mail is timothy.nickels@bankofamerica.com. He was assigned on the 23rd. Johnson told me he has 10 business days to do something with the file. I should call on Friday to see what is going on. He also told me I could register and go to www.equator.com register, and could then track my account on-line. Number to call to register is 866-677-2516.<br />
1/5/09 Called 866-677-2516 and spoke with Daniella. She asked me if I wanted to register with equator. I asked what it was. She told me it was a way to track my shortsale on line. I said okay. She asked a bunch of questions, and then sent an e-mail with login-information, and said I would have to downloan some information. Seems that I have to re-send all the information I have sent them twice. This really pissed me off. I told her I don’t want to start over for a third time. She told me I have to, if I don’t the process will get kicked out and I will have to start from scratch. She told me a negotiator wasn’t assigned and I was just beginning the process. I kept repeating that I just got off the phone with Johnson at B of A and was told Timothy Nickels was my negotiator and that he had 10 business days to get through phase 1 and that I should call in on Friday for an update. She said that was incorrect he had 20 business days. She told me I had to “download” all my information into equator, or at some point I would have to start from the beginning. I asked how long this equator thing had been going on, she said the beginning of December, I asked why was today the first I heard of it, she said certain files are chosen to move over at certain times. I told her I didn’t want to move it over, and she said “too late” she had already initiated the short sale in equator. Nothing I can do, but re-send all the information.<br />
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I then looked on the web. Need to re-send taxes, financials, plus Traci Kemnitz will have to re-send all the real-estate info. Remember this is the 3rd time. First info got lost in change over from Countrywide to B of A. 2nd info got lost in change over to equator. If process takes, 90 days and they have a changeover every 45, which puts you back at the beginning how will anything ever get done.<br />
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1/5/09. Looked at all the stuff I had to input, called 866-677-2516 to get another opinion. Got David this time. Told me unfortunately I would have to re-send all the info. I asked if he could just delete me from the system. He put me on hold to check. Came back and said he could, but eventually I would have to re-send it. Asked him if I would be starting from scratch. He said no, that this should not interfere with the process, and just need to get everything in by Saturday. I need to scan 30 pages of taxes, re-do financials, scan bank statements, pay stubs etc. I then asked him about time lines, since today I had received different answers, David stated, phase 1- 10 business days, phase 2-15 business days, phase 3 up to 35 business days.<br />
Traci also called me today. Seems Timothy Nickels had called her this morning, told her to go to www.equator.com to register and then call him back. She had to input license information etc.etc. Was trying to call him back this afternoon. <br />
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1/5/09<br />
Today is 50 business days, not counting 3 holidays, since I originally sent Bank of America 36 pages of documents. We are still not through phase 1! I have done everything asked of me in a very prompt manner, and still I get nowhere. Every person I talk to gives different answers and different time lines. These people should be in jail.<br />
1/8/09<br />
Put the required information in equator. <br />
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Then called. First, the message said the short sale has been denied. I went through the phone bank and got to Ivan. He said no update on the file. He said the appraisal looked good, and it just came in on the 7th, which is odd because I was told on the 5th they had it. He said timothy nickels had until jan 19th to do something with the file. I asked him if I should call or e-mail timothy or if I should wait to hear from him. He said it wouldn’t hurt to get a hold of him if I could.<br />
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11/12 Found a complaint at complaints board.com. that explained what other people went through trying to purchase a shortsale from B of A. Was almost the same thing I am going through. They had gotten a call from Cindy Repreza who is a custormor advocate, number is 1.800.669.2443 extension 3542, after they had written a letter to multiple Bank of America executives complaining about the horrible service. So a gave her a call and told her I had been referred to her and I needed help with a short sale. She total me she couldn’t help as this was an internal line, so I asked what to do to get help. She took my loan number and then asked if I had been in contact with Timothy Nickels, I told her we’ve tried, but haven’t heard back. So she said to call Timothy’s supervisor Chadd Grogg 480-457-3228, I passed that out to Traci, my realtor, and she called Chad and left a detailed message.<br />
11/14/09 Traci got this e-mail from Brian Lorenc. Traci, <br />
I received a follow up call from a friend of the borrower who originally escalated the file. I see the file has been moved into our short sale system equator. I see you have a task pending to be completed that was due by 01/09/2010. It is for you to upload your authorization on the account into the system. Once that task is completed you will be assigned more tasks to complete and the process will move forward. Let me know if you have any questions.<br />
Thank you! <br />
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I hadn’t mentioned this earlier because it felt like such a long shot, but. The buyer says he knows the President of B of A. Who this is, I have no idea. He asked a few weeks ago if he could ask him for help. Traci said by all means, and sent him some of the documents that have been going back and forth. So maybe Brian is a result of that angle.<br />
So Traci wrote him back: I did upload the authorization that day. This is very frustrating in that the authorization was sent to BofA twice in the last 2 months, and yet no one seems to have it. How is it that when I was calling in to get status reports they were speaking with me and acknowledged receipt of the authorization?<br />
I will be in a meeting from 10-11 am this morning. As soon as I'm done I'll do it again. I want Bank of America to be aware that they have an offer in front of them that is $75, 000 and $50, 000 higher than the most recent sales in Caldera Springs, and that the buyer has plenty of other opportunities out there. I urge Bank of America to answer this offer immediately and get this transaction closed. <br />
Brian responded: Traci, <br />
I do apologize for the inconvenience for you. I see you accepted the request to be the agent on the deal on 01/05/2010, but I don't see the authorization was loaded into the system. If you have trouble with it this afternoon please let me now. Also, after you upload it let me know as well and I will verify it is loaded into the system for you.<br />
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Thank you!<br />
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So this does look promising. Traci has been talking to B of A for months on my behalf. The Authorization Document looks like it has been through a war zone, it has been faxed and scanned so many times. I logged onto equator and tried to upload while Traci was in her meeting and couldn’t find an area I could upload it to. <br />
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I should mention that at this point I have twice written both of my Oregon Senators and my Representative asking for something to be done. I also complained to the Federal Trade Commission 1-877-382-4357 and the Federal Regulator Office of Comptroller of Currency 1-800-613-6743. Traci was dead on when she told Bank of America that was a screaming deal and they need to take it. Property values continue to plummet. If they move too slow this deal will be gone. These are costs departments so the banks don’t want to take on more employees to speed up the process, but by going slow they are actually costing themselves more money as the values continue to fall. First sent them Docs. on 10/27/09, today is 1/14/10 and we are not through phase one. Two things are the most frustrating. Constantly having to re-send documents and getting a different answer to the same question every time you ask. How long does phase 1 take? 10 – 20 – 30 days. I would like to see the training program for these folks answering calls, do they even have one. <br />
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1/14/10<br />
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Traci uploaded the Authorization form and wrote Brian that it was done and asked what we may expect for a timeline, response “Traci, <br />
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I see the authorization is being reviewed and was loaded into the system. Once it is accepted you will have more tasks assigned. Your next tasks will be to load the offer and other supporting documents. Equator is a task driven system and all tasks must be completed before the file gets submitted. All new short sales will go through this system and we are in the process of moving all existing files into this system. You can continue to reach out to me for help on the tasks to help push a task along if it goes past due.<br />
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Thank you!<br />
Not what I was hoping for. Seems we are starting from scratch after 2.5 months. <br />
I should also mention that I had been logging in to equator everyday, as the have a little message box once you log in that is how they are suppose to “communicate” with you, and I do use that term loosely, no where did it ever say info was messing, it showed everything they requested was entered as needed.
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 21st of Jan, 2010 by   bluedog1 0 Votes
1/21/10 Still claiming they haven't got all of the documents. We are starting from scratch.
 2nd of Feb, 2010 by   MichiganStateSpartan 0 Votes
This story is almost identical to mine...almost the same timeframes too; however, I first contacted Bank of America back in August just to advise I was going to attempt a short sale. I received a purchase agreement in October, approved on my first lien holder in December, and immediately began talking with Bank of America December 16th. Now it is February, and my agent and I continue to call everyday. I believe I've sent numerous updates and packets approximately 4 times (including uploading into Equator). My time is running out likely at the end of February, as my first lien holder has even stepped in to try and provide guidance after my first extension of 30 days on the first approval. This means come Februrary 15, I will have been waiting for 60 days (only since my first approval - it's been since August since I first started sending them stuff!) and yet nothing has been done from B of A. I've relocated from Michigan to Ohio for a new job, so I don't even live in the residence anymore. I'm following all the correct processes and following through with every request of me; however, B of A seems to just be sitting back and doing nothing. Every day is a new story, promises are never kept and we continue to have to call and we're getting no where. Unfortunately, if worse comes to worse, I will have to walk away - but it's not to say I didn't try. That would be a complete lie! Bank of America needs to get their act together!
 20th of Feb, 2010 by   nhantour 0 Votes
I'm in a similar situation. I've been at this process since August and now I'm in the "waiting on appraisal report" state in equator. They never mentioned along the process that they moved my file to equator. It was just a coincidence that I asked about it. My buyer is still interested in the house but I'm getting seriously impatient. I need to move out of this house asap, so I'm giving them a deadline of May, otherwise they can have it with or without a short sale. I'm seriously fed up with B of A. Mind you I have 2 loans on this house, the other bank (National City) has been waiting as well on B of A.
 24th of Feb, 2010 by   M. Wynne 0 Votes
I am a homeowner. My realtor and I uploaded everything into the Equator website that we needed to upload. We completed all of the tasks given to us. That was at least 3 or 4 months ago. I have made several calls to the shortsale dept. I spoke to several supervisors, one being Tracy Van Ep. and called and emailed the negotiator and his manager several times. The Equator website was stuck in pay off task well beyond the time limit. Finally my realtor received a counter offer. My realtor accepted the counter offer which was pretty much accepting our buyers offer. Then it turns out one of the shortsale reps accidently creates some kind of task for the negotiator, per Irene in shortsale, that causes our Equator account to get closed. We get a notice from Bank of America stating Oops, we accidently closed your Equator account. Please call us to reopen it. I called Bank of America and find out the short sale now has to start from phase one all over again. I waited on the phone for a supervisor to talked to, I got Kristan Macias, who did not care and transferred me out. I thought this Equator account was suppose make things easier. Whats the difference between Bank of America not receiving the faxes and uploading the information and the website being closed that easily? There is no difference to me.

Melanie, California
 2nd of Mar, 2010 by   Phyllis Towns 0 Votes
222 days and counting from the old system to the new bogus Equator system. The system is worse, just another Bank of America escuse why realtors should not call them because you have no task assigned, my negotiator Phyllis Towns has honestly told me in her delirium that she has no idea when the 2nd mortgage "Pool Insurance" people were going to respond? So I asked her why did you counter me with the exact same offer the buyer submitted and then proceed not to accept it? Now she is blaming the "Pool Insurance" company, I asked another realtor what is Pool Insurance? She said maybe it's for the hot tub the seller took with them to Georgia... Duh...Yes like everyone else I have had them tell me that my file is stuck in a computer loop thats holding the file in the held position so it cannot go to the next task which is "accepted" I think the Equator system is just a computerized system that Bank of America is using to gather all the information so they can foreclose on the home and they won't have to do any leg work because we as realtors did it for them. Someone should sue Bank of America.
 30th of Apr, 2010 by   CarrieWray 0 Votes
My story is exactly the same except BOA gave us a counter offer on our short sale...which we accepted and they auctioned teh house out from under us...No auctioneer ever showed us although they calimed they sent one and teh deed is being transferred back to BOA! Anyone interested in a class action lawsuit?? My email is magik01301 @ yahoo.com
 1st of May, 2010 by   Hucko Realtor 0 Votes
The Equator system has just simplified the submission of documents to Bank of America. No more having to fax repeatedly documents because B of A claims that they did not receive them. It has not sped up B of A's cumbersome short sale process. While most of the larger lenders are now closing short sales in 6 to 8 weeks Bank of America is still taking 4 to 5 months or longer. Their processing is slow, negtiators are changed in the middle of the offer negotiations, negotiators do not communicate with the real estate agents or sellers and do not respond to emails or phone messages, you have to call for updates or you know nothing. The only thing that has really changed is that with the Equator system they cannot claim that they did not received your documents as they are there uploaded into the Equator system for those involved to see. Until Bank of America changes its entire system of processing these short sales they are going to continue to be inept in the short sale department. Maybe they would just rather foreclose as short sale a property? I will say that when you call now to the short sale department those handling these calls are very professional and nice and much more informative. Unfortunately they just manning the phones and are not the ones processing the short sale which is where Bank of America fails miserably, their so called negotiators in the Equator system do not respond to emails and their voice mail is always full. The term negotiator is meaningless they negotiate nothing. We have now and have had several short sale offers for Bank of America, the 3 that are currently being processed in Equator have been processing for from 2 to 5 months with no approval yet. We had 4 buyers back out due to B of A taking so long and just one closed, it took over 7 months to bring to closing.

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