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Wells Fargo Financial Complaints - Using consolidation schemes to trick consumers!

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Wells Fargo Financial

Posted: 2007-09-19 by Bill M. [send email]
Using consolidation schemes to trick consumers!
Complaint Rating:  100 % with 5 votes
Company information:
Wells Fargo Financial
United States
financial.wellsfargo.com

We have a small loan through Wells Fargo (was $1100... now down to $840) which we have been paying on time, actually early, and paying about $10 extra each month. I was contacted by a representative (Pete) via phone from their St. Cloud, MN office to see if I wanted another loan since we had been paying on time and such. I told him we were doing fine, so "no". He then asked if we would consider a consolidation loan, as it might help us reduce our high interest credit card payments. (We do have several credit cards... as I went to graduate school and graduated with my master's last year, so accumulated some debt along the way.) We thought it might be nice to have it all lumped into one payment (consolidated) with lower interest, so we decided to hear him out, as we will soon be moving into our new house, so would love fewer payments. He asked us to come into his office and bring our car title, pay stubs, and insurance slip for the car, as it might be a source of collateral. We figured we would do it to see what they could offer us. (Note... we have 3 years left to pay on our car on a 6 year loan at 9%; we have $2900. in equity in the car). Since we have not had a late payment on anything in over 3 years, we hoped for a good offer. He asked us what we wanted when we got there... we told him to consolidate into a lower interest loan- to avoid several small payments, and instead have one. After almost 2 hours of sitting in his office (he was 'downstairs' talking to an underwriter), he finally brought in an offer. They would refinance our car with a 66 month loan at 18%. We could then take the equity ($2900) and use it to pay off a few small credit cards. They also would offer us a $5000. credit line to pay off some others. I asked the percentage rate... 20.998% was the offer!!! We nearly fell off of our chairs. This is higher than any of our credit cards, and the car loan was a joke at 18%. We just got up and walked out the door. We couldn't believe that they would think we would fall for this!!! Obviously, they were not thinking of our needs... only how they could make huge amounts of money off of interest on us! Buyer Beware!!! We will pay off our credit cards on our own... we are doing it fine now. We certainly DON'T need to make Wells Fargo rich in the process.
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219 days ago by Anonymous Person [send email]
***FORMER EMPLOYEE***

Hello Bill,

As a former employee of WFF (I sold the exact same loans you are speaking of), I can tell you that you made an excellent decision! You should feel very good.

Tips for other readers that may come across the same situation:

1. It is the sales rep.'s job to compliment you on your payment history and say we have other opportunities for you. We compliment this history good or bad. This opens the conversation to talk about you other bills and thats what we made commission on... paying off other companies bills.

2. You never have equity in your car if you're still paying on it. Period. Don't listen to what they tell you... WFF will loan you up to 160% of the actual cash value of your vehicle, that is where the "equity" is. Not to mention WFF uses N.A.D.A. to appraise your vehicle. This is usually about $2,000-$4,000 higher than what your vehicle is worth on trade. Dealers use Kelley Blue Book, not NADA.

3. The $5,000 they offered you was either a Credit Card or "Cash on Demand". Both of which are essentially the same product. The credit card is your typical Variable rate card. The Base Rate for those with perfect credit is about 15%!!! You have to have perfect credit to get that. Annual Fees range from $25-$40. The Cash on Demand is a much the same except you can't purchase with it at a store like a typical Visa. You can withdraw money at an ATM. The COD doesn't have an annual fee and the rate may be 1-2% lower.

Way to go Bill. Another tip... next time they call (and they will call again, especially if the had one credit application on you, they see potential for another) tell you you want to be on their DO NOT SHARE LIST. Company Policy states that as soon as a customer says this, all sales advances must stop, immediately. WFF upper level management actually takes this policy seriously. Reps have been terminated for not following.
208 days ago by Josh Parker [send email]
Yesterday I noticed an incorrect fee charged against my checking
account balance. I phoned the Wells Fargo customer service people and ended up speaking with a customer service rep in Ft. Worth, Texas. I live in Austin. She was of no help so I asked for her supervisor. The supervisor named Melody was worse yet. She was rude and never let me talk and raised my blood pressure to where I was driven to profanity. I hung up on her. I then called back and got a Customer Service rep in the Minn. office for Wells Fargo. He fixed the problem and credited my checking account on the spot.

5 hours later I went to use my ATM card and it did not work. I phoned wells fargo and a lady named Jenny informed me it had been terminated and a new card had been requested. A few more calls to Wells Fargo got them to admit that a lady named Melody had done this to me. She had canceled my card as an act of revenge against me. She must have monitored my account and seen that the funds were credited. They warned me to check my credit report because she may have stolen my SS# as well. They are now sending me a new ATM card with which will take 7
days.

I clearly should have a case to sue.
98 days ago by Anne Hougaard [send email]
I had a car loan and paid it off on the 14th of the month in full, $18, 000. That afternoon collections calls started in. And the next payment was not even due till 24th of this month. I have been harassed to no end. They even sent a tow truck to our home. Tried calling them and they refuse to speak with me. I have faxed over a copy of the pay off check and they refuse to accept it.

Isn't this illegal?

Help how do you get Wells fargo corporate to talk to you?

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