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This is a scam.
I paid my $2500 membership, followed their instructions, tried to get people on board and I got nothing. The "buyer savings" is horrible. I could have paid $55 for a membership to on of those places. I want my money back. I joined 08/7/2018. I went to seminars for additional training and never did I add one person. The system is set up to have other members call you with their successful sales, but again, it never happened. I got a letter from the president, saying how well I got another person involved. It was my daughter. And I paid her membership. She hasn't been able to sell anything either.
Desired outcome: Refund my money
Furniture purchase from TNFactoryDirest
4/6/2021.I've been a member for over 12yr. I make my first purchase through TNfactorydirect.com this year. I ordered a bedroom suit from the website at the beginning of January. in the last 2 week an estimated ship date has appeared on the account (3/30/2021). Well now we are past the estimated ship date and no more shipping information has been given. my husband and I have both called and email. We can not get any information. My husbank was going to take off to be present for the delivery, but that's hard to do without any information. I know things are a little crazy right now, but it's been 3 solid months.
Desired outcome: tracking information. better communication. customer service for the website knows nothing. if you tell me it ships 3/30/2021 then actually ship it 3/30/2021 and did i mention tracking information.
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My wife and I attended a TN persentation because a close friend of ours had jist joined and was excited and invited us. We went and were both immediately put off by the presenter (a Gold level member) he did his part amd did it well and almost had me convinced. We agreed to fill out the paperwork to hold our spot as this is a pyrimid and the higher up you are the more potential for earning you have. We didn't have the 800+ dollars at the time either so he said to let him know when he could process the payment and we were good. We left the meeting and started doing our research, which I would encourage anyone to do, and nothing but bad reviews. The next day I contacted the presenter and asked him to rerurn our paperwork so we could destroy it since it had our personal information on it, including bank information. He imediatly started attacking my integrity and ethics, told me that I was a bad friend to the girl who invited me and also called me rude and accused me of waisting his time. At one point I felt like I was in a debate with my 13 year old sonarguing because I told him no. He went on and on about Better Business Ratings which they do jave an A+ but so does the company I currently work for. Finally after about an hour of listening to him I reminded him that the company has a ploicy allowing individuals 3 days to change their minds at whivh point he made sure to get the last word and agreed to return the paperwork. It was easier just letting him feel he had won that continuing to engage in his nonsense. I found hard evidence that only about half of 1% earn enough money to not work a traditional job and more than 90% of the rest make nothing at all, in fact they lost money because they would buy things they normally would not just to justify the savings side. Speaking of the savings, they dont tell you that you must pay retail prices and the savings are sent as a rebate check that has to be claimed as income and is taxed so there are NO real savings with the exception of the factory direct deals but you can get them elsewhere for free from other sources. I would advise anyone considering this to take you time and do some homework before jumping on board. I don't doubt there is money to be made but VERY few people whi buy into this do. The vast majority end up waisting their hard earned money and even loose friends because that's who TN wants you to target first.
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MLM buyers club that offers no savings, only disappointment.
Team National is a old buyer club MLM. Most people are smart enough to avoid them, but not all.
Below are 20 points to consider or ask anyone trying to scam you on this.
* If the deals are so fantastic why cant anyone see them or try them before they join?
* Team National touts their affiliation with big retailers as a partnership. This is a stretch. The reality is ANYONE can sign up to do affiliate marketing with almost any online company.
* Per Team Nationals own Federal filings - 94% of associates earned less than $1300 in GROSS revenue in 2015.
* Why the "high pressure" technique to sign up folks? If its so great who cares if they think on this opportunity for a few weeks?
* Is the money made by recruiting?
* Ask the folks pitching this to you to see at least 2 years of tax returns that pertain to their Team National business.
* Does Team National encourage attending meetings and conventions, buying more motivational material?
* Do you have uplines, downlines, sideways lines, and other crazy ways to explain the recruiting income?
* Only 0.03% of associates made a GROSS revenue of over $70, 000 in 2015.
* Have your recruiter explain the whole business and concept in one sentence.
* Team National has been sued by the Federal Government at least once in regards to the business practices.
* Do they tout things like A+ BBB rating and member of the DSA? (These are red herrings as any business maintains an A+ rating just by answering all complaints. The DSA is a trade group for MLM's)
* Do the "deals" seem to be vague? Do they highlight things like furniture and jewelry (very hard to get apples to apples comparisons)?
* Why is Team National debated on almost all scam watch websites?
* Why do Team National followers scream "its not a pyramid scheme"
* Seem like lots of fake posting on the web by Team National shills making vague blankets statements about how much they save and earn?
* So, you need to pay them big bucks to save big bucks? Does that really make sense to you?
* Do you have other fees such as website, shipping charges, etc..
* Be sure to have the folks pitching this to you give factual hard evidence of all savings and commission plans. No excuses.
* Does Team National of a fair and reasonable cancellation plan like say 30 days or more?
Pyramid scheme
BUYER BEWARE! A friend presented Team National to me, and it sounded great. Since it was a friend I signed up on the spot. Save big money on major purchases and make money when you sign your friends up on this " great" saving club. The old saying, if it sounds too good to be true it probably is, holds true in this case. I have tried to buy 3 major purchases for furniture and appliances through the "club"and with minimal shopping on my end have been able to meet or beat the "club" prices. I will notry sell an overpriced, worthless membership to my friends so I can make money. This is all about selling a very useless membership to make money. I will not take advantage of friends and acquaintances.
I have been with Team National for 2 years and have saved over $8600 on every day things, I am not a big shopper. Nothing about this awesome company has been anything but the truth. Their ethics are top notch and our leaders at corporate even go to Washington DC to help create stronger laws against pyramid schemes, which by the way are illegal in all states. A business doesn't stay a float for 21 years if they aren't doing things properly. Ill go out on a limb and say the original poster either expected checks to fall out of the sky if they worked the business... its called WORK for a reason or they expect the savings to just happen without any effort. The savings is no different than a gym membership. If you pay the fee you need to actually use it. Team National has been life changing for me and my family and I will always defend them.
Another shill that signs up to leave false positive reviews for this MLM/pyramid scheme. Team National is deceitful company which hurts working families and has no value.
Sorry to hear about your being scammed by Team National. As you found the savings are not real. Its an old school pyramid scheme where recruiting is really the only thing that matters.
I would suggest that you demand a refund in writing (they wont give you one easily). Be sure to file complaints with every government agencies that takes complaints.
Membership
This company is a sham. They tell you if you pay a membership you get commission back for products you buy, and or big discounts. My wife signed us up and I made a purchase at Home Depot thru my BigN marketplace. We waited... and waited... and never received a commission check. Then when we called and checked we were told we didn't make a purchase even...
Read full review of Team National / Bign.com and 4 commentsPyramid scam
Paid about $2200 for nothing! At least with Amway and some of the others you get some items. This company should not be allowed to continue taking people for their money. This is a pyramid scheme if there ever was one. Just trying to get rebates they offer is a scam. DO not allow anyone to convince you to join TN. The same item can be purchased elsewhere...
Read full review of Team National / Bign.com and 2 commentsfees paid did not result in discounted products united
I paid a large fee to buy discounted merchandise and the shipping costs resulted in charges so high the merchandise cost more than regular store prices. Turned into a pyramid scheme. Expected members to recruit in order to benefit. Represented in false terms.
I thank God that my husband and myself did our research on this company before buying into it. I really do appreciate everyone's complaints because I never buy any major merchant products without researching it first and I knew when my brother-in-law tried to sell it to my husband and myself that it sounds like a pyramid scheme and this is exactly what Team National is.
Sorry to hear about this Connie Adams.
Team National is a well known MLM scam that targets people to shell out $2200 for a lifetime membership in a buyers club. As you found out there really aren't any savings on the products that you want. Its all about getting that $2200 and the getting you to bother other unsuspecting people to shell out $2200.
AVOID. Total rip-off MLM scam.
Scam, need help and advice
I have had a SIL that staredt up with Team National. They are a MLM pyramid scheme buyers club. She is starting to lose friends and family over this. Every contact is now a sales opportunity. She isn't very good at it and hasn't been able to show anyone why they should pay $2195 for very minimal discounts. I don't think she has signed anyone up. She pushes harder then.
We have started to avoid her phone calls and my wife actually cries when she talks about the relationship that has soured with her sister. We wont buy into this as we have a strict no MLM ever policy at home. We don't believe that getting scammed is supporting her. Mt SIL literally hates me right now. I think my wife might cave and buy a membership if it weren't for me.
This is her 2nd scam in the last few years. She sold some weird vitamins and lost her butt on that.
Any advice would be appreciated. She cant afford to waste time and money on this. We are worried she will lose her "real" 9 to 5 job in a big office if she goes too far with this. She is a 45 year old single lady with a good heart.
You really need to get a life. Wow that is some massive nonsense. No matter how you cut It Team National is more direct marketing mimbo jumbo. Pay big now for discounts later, sign up friends and family, etc... For the weak and stupid.
I got on to a site like this when I first joined and almost let the bunch of nay-sayers talk me into cancelling and not doing this. Fast forward a few years, big, big savings and majorly life-changing money later, and I live a whole different life! It's easy to be a critic from your computer chair. Let's look at YOUR J.O.B. (J.ust O.ver B.roke)…
This is what a buddy of mine posted once and I think it says it well…
EVERYONE BEWARE: I just heard about this pyramid thing called a JOB. OH MY WORD, I wasn't even aware this scam was even going on anymore! Basically, the way it works is you work for a boss, who is under a boss, who is under a boss, who is under the owner or sometimes even worse - under a Board of Directors or shareholders!
The thing is -- it is VERY DIFFICULT to EVER move up in this pyramid... The kicker is -- you are OVER WORKED, UNDER PAID, and it is hard to get time off! Depending on the type of JOB it is, sometimes you could even have to ask permission to take a bathroom break!
You rarely get bonuses, raises, or decent benefits -- and you can get fired or laid off at any time. If you think that you presently work for one of these pyramids or are approached to work for one, RUN!
Just for an understanding of the terminology being used here – and understand that pyramids are ILLEGAL in all 50 states. A pyramid is the exchange of money with no goods and no service. Not the case here. TN obviously has goods and services! Also, in a pyramid, you can’t make more money than the person above you (just like at your pyramid/job) Not the case here. I make way, way, way more money than lots of people above me because it is determined by my own efforts. It is a savings program – calling it a pyramid would be like calling SAM'S CLUB and COSTCO a pyramid. The difference here is that you get savings or rebates or commission or discounts at thousands and thousands of places all over the country, from local businesses, including service industries - electricians, plumbers, painters, etc… and major retail stores and even Fortune 100 and 500 companies. These companies have expensive lawyers on retainer, 24 hours a day. They investigate, thoroughly, who they go into business with and would not affiliate themselves with a pyramid scheme (which, again, is illegal). In other words, these companies aren’t going to risk losing their billion dollar corporation to give us a 10% rebate on shampoo… I mean, come on… use common sense here! Another difference is that you’re not just finding savings (in whichever capacity, as mentioned above) by just shopping inside a brick and mortar building between the hours of 9am and 9pm. And you can get access to most all of them from one place and for most... 24 hours a day. TN is 19 years old with the best ratings a company can have in every category. They are verified, legal and people are truly changing their lives every day by taking advantage of the opportunity. I know… I’ve watched and helped them do so for years!
This program works for 100% of the people who make effort and are diligent and don't quit! I never write on these hate threads, but the guy talking about how he talked his wife out of it, thinking he saved her, made me nauseous. And Rodney... total fraud- I checked him out and will discuss below. I had to speak up.
See, it's easy to find the negative chatter online because those are the people sitting at home not doing anything to change their, nor other people's lives, except in a negative way by typing out their negative agenda… and that's what it is! They don't want you to succeed because then they look like an idiot for not doing it, too. I have watched and helped so many people be successful with this company! It works… if you do! Particularly, if you do it right! The people on here are available to be online typing because aren’t doing anything satisfying enough with their lives already to be out doing whatever that would be so they would rather point the finger and say “it’s a scam” or “it’s not possible” or “it’s a pyramid" because then they don’t have to take the blame for not being successful. What I believe it is, is that they know that they aren’t willing to get off their hind ends and actually do something and then when they see people who do, they try to demean them and call them crooks or thieves to make it look like the only way to have success in this world is by scamming someone else out of their money. That is such a load of poop! And that’s what you’re doing when you say lies like that, Rodney – you are calling me and my friends and family criminals. It should be a criminal offense for you to be able to come speak such unfounded lies for the public to view. Shame on you, sir! Shame on you! To do this and be successful, you have to get out of the computer chair and actually do something!
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MY ADVICE - Don't let someone who has done NOTHING give you advice on ANYTHING! Don't take advice on how to make money from someone who is broke!
Why don't we start with asking EVERY ONE of these people making comments - EXACTLY what do you do for a living? How do you make the world a better place? How many people's lives are you helping to change on a daily basis? What difference are you making, doing what you're doing? Do you have any time freedom? Is your life, now, how you pictured it being when you were 16? Are you only doing what you’re doing now for the money? Is what you do now, what fills your heart with passion and joy? Let's take a look at all of their answers and view their successes and then let's see who you should be taking advice from!
Let's first take this TOTAL FRAUD - Rodney Tames - real name Roderick D. Thomas Sr. (If I’m correct – you've made your Muslim name Kyawata Moobe) hmmmm – perhaps that’s why you, on an almost daily basis, set out to sites all over to slander a Christian owned company? You have nothing to do with this company, nor have you ever seen it or know anything about it or anyone who runs it, but you have posted over 40 slanderous threads about them? WHY? Another theory, or maybe double-agendized… SO he can get you to come check him out and advertise his business to you. He has his own agenda. Getting you guys to click on these things has earned him 685 Reputation points so far. Goooooo Rodney/Roderick/ZO Brown/Kyawata! He is lying to you! How do I know this? I have had huge success with Team National and have helped a lot of people become huge successes with Team National! He's not speaking the truth! Don't take advice about success in life or business from those who have none and who don't even understand what true success is (not measured by money, but founded on integrity) of which he has none. He actually said, to a person in another thread, that the more people comment on his thread, the higher he goes in the Google search and more advertising he gets. Well, that's fine Rodney, because we want people with at least a half of a brain, which means they won't just stop at your comment but will keep reading and learn the truth about you... that you are a liar and schemer. Here is what he wants you to see, so I'll save you the click on his pyramid link above...
Roderick D. Thomas Sr.
Your Image/Style Consultant at Zo Brown Speaks LLC | From No 2 Go
Greater New York City Area
Professional Training & Coaching
Current
1. Zo Brown Speaks LLC
Education
1. Thomas Edison State College
From No 2 Go - - he'll get you From No about an opportunity 2Go to his site to advertise himself to you!
Check out this irony – one of his claims, of many, in his "supposed" areas of expertise…
- Escalate system and operations issues reported to training or identified through analysis and assist with problem resolution.
Well, Roderick aka Rodney or whatever the heck your name is… you sure didn’t identify anything here through analysis or give an assist with problem resolution. You made a false accusation, have continually made slanderous remarks about a great company, run by greater people, made patently false allegations, and outright lied.
There you go Rodney - some free advertising for you! Yeah - ZO BROWN SPEAKS... a bunch of non-factual, biased, unfounded garbage! Show me some… ANY fact you have to back ANY of your claims, RODNEY! You are what we call a dream stealer. You don't care HOW you get control over others or who it hurts in the process - you just want them to make a decision based on your opinion, so you feel like what you have to say matters and therefore making you feel important. Remember Rodney, you reap what you sow, and whether that’s in YOUR Bible or not – it’s still true! Be gone with you, foul beast!
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tjdavid - Fact - The Attorney for the IRS - Sandy Botkin writes a book each year called - Lower Your Taxes Big Time - in which the first chapter is, and has remained, titled - Why you would be absolutely brain dead to not start a home-based business, in which he goes on, in chapter, to discuss how this industry is the perfect one for that, even if only from the simple benefits you get from them towards taxes. So, a household policy that directly goes against that... well, you get the point. Also, if your wife is turning away her sister's calls because her sister is excited about something and is trying to do something to better herself and get ahead in life… well, that seems like a pretty crappy sister on your wife's end of the relationship, not the other way around. Supporting her, whether you do it or not, is what true, sisterly love should beget, and YOU turning her away from her sister is only going to harm YOUR relationship with your wife, in the long run. Be very careful walking that path, friend. Is your intolerance possibly based from a place where you think that if you support her and she does well, you'll look like a dummy for not doing it, too? Or from a place where you think that if you discourage her and she fails then you can say I told you so? Is that why? If so… that's disgusting. Support your family! We are only here once! Treat them as if it's the last time you'll see them or talk to them, every time. I wish I had heeded that advice before I lost so many important people in my life, but once they're gone, it's too late and you bear the burden of all the things you wish you hadn't said and done, and all the things you wish you had said and done.
It sounds to me like the SIL needs some training in how to do this right. She should certainly seek good advice and stop listening to yours!
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Monc rief_1 - If your boss is the one who showed it to you and he did the Premium, as you claim that you have, then you were covered for free, and you paid nothing at all, which is what I'm guessing the real truth is. However, if that's not the case and you really did pay that full amount, that means you got the biggest possible package, and means you'll never pay another penny the rest of your life for it... the lifetime membership that covers you and your spouse’s parents, grandparents, children, grandchildren and great grandchildren and YOU for the REST OF YOUR LIFE! You are going to buy another couch, mattress, piece of furniture, vehicle, jewelry, insurance, etc... all the way down to your toilet paper. If you've had the membership for 10 years, you could have saved it back in household supplies, alone, by now. Quit complaining, you bonehead, and use the savings. Wise up - talk to some upline and let them show you how simple it is to make some life changing money with this and how to do it THE RIGHT WAY!
In conclusion - your membership is still valid even though your complaint is not!
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Saving$$$ - yep - your comment is what got me to research this Rodney Tames pyramid scam guy! Thanks. No - he didn't join, nor has he even seen the program or know anything about it because he doesn't care anything about any of it. He isn't looking to join anything nor does he care about what he is saying and how it is negatively affecting people and causing people to turn down an opportunity that could change their lives. He acts, as would, a parasite on society - he has his own agenda and he doesn't care who he hurts in the process of getting out of them what he wants. He has done ZERO research or he wouldn't be saying the ignorant things he was saying... He actually commented on one thread that you buy a $3 tube of toothpaste for $9 thru WalMart.com through TN and get 10% back. That is absolutely ridiculous and a total lie. You pay the exact price that Wal Mart sells it for to everyone and get a rebate back. It's just like Ebates but with better rebates and all accessible from one spot. Now, to the credibility factor...
Let's show the facts - and remember - facts don't care about your feelings - they are just facts and indisputable, regardless of if you want them to be different or make claim to believe differently about them...
-Better Business Bureau - A rating with BBB for over 19 years (highest possible rating) also, Rodney, if you just paid dues to have a good rating, then why would there be any f rated companies, like Wal Mart, who could just buy good ratings? Rodney actually made the dumbest comment I've seen about TN and the bbb by saying... "All you have to do to stay high rated is attend to any complaints that customers have" ummm, yeah, dummy, isn't that what you want the companies you deal with to do? Or do you want them to ignore your complaints? Rodney Tames @hatewhitepeoplethe truthandChristians
-Chamber of Commerce - Gold standing (highest possible standing) with an unblemished record
-Dunn and Bradstreet - Platinum rated (highest possible rating)
-Financial Standing - 1 financial standing - the highest standing possible on Earth (debt free company that had over 150 million dollar growth last year [2015] in a recession)
-Member of the DSA (to be a member of the DSA you are thoroughly investigated and proven to be a legitimate business and then have to be invited in) and, as of 2015, TN was one of only 52 companies in the world in the DSA that holds a Certificate of Recognition for Code of Ethics for ethical practices in business.
On the BBB there have only been 23 complaints made on the company in over 19 years (research Team National on Better Business Bureau website -search any company in BBB to see every complaint made on that company since inception) of which they resolved all. The most common complaints of those were from people saying that the person talking to them about it was being too aggressive trying to get them to join… which is exactly what I teach people not to do and why some people have lack of success because they do exactly that. Thanks Savin$$$
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Bonair - SERIOUSLY! You are going to use God to push your negative agenda? WOW! Hmmmmmm Let's see - what does your church do every Sunday? Pass around the bowl to collect money. If you get 50 of the people in your church rich and they all give, at least, 10%, then you are adding lots of money to the church and hopefully, ultimately, God's agenda. Do you just want all of the people with no morals and /or ethics to be the ones with all the money and therefore force their ANTI-CHRISTIAN agenda on us all - oh wait - that's already happening! Don't act like rich people are evil - money just makes you more of what you already were. If you're a drunk, you'll be a bigger one, if you're a jerk, you'll just be a bigger one... if you are caring, sharing, kind, and loving, you'll just be more of that. God gifted some of the greatest men in the Bible with outrageous wealth. King Solomon being the richest man EVER! And he wrote how many books of the Bible? The other part is this - Amway is a Multi-level Marketing company that sells you a product for WAY more than it's worth (what Rodney was trying to say TN does... not true) - they take 77% to 97% of that WAY overpriced product's mark up and stick that money in their pocket and then they distribute the other puny portion to the 4 or 5 people above you - hence the term MULTI-LEVEL! They pay through multiple levels and can only pay through so many levels because there is no money left after that. Our company pays through a point system through unlimited depth! Not multi-level. And a savings program like Costco on steroids is worse than Amway? TN is CUTTING people's monthly budget - not cutting into it! In Amway you are required to make purchases every month to meet a quota and deadline. There is no deadline or quota in TN. Also, this IS a Christian based and Christian owned company and I personally know the people who own and run the company and know what they stand for. They don't force their beliefs on anyone and are tolerant to people of all religions and backgrounds. However, you may possibly be right... Let's see... you don't even know their names, nor have you ever met or spoken to any of them or know anything about them! Hmmmm, sorry, you have been deemed unqualified to comment and have zero credibility on this subject matter, nor have you shown a single fact to back anything you said. Quit making false witness against good people. You have no facts to back up what you are saying and that has a name – it is called LYING!
Folks - if you are on here because, deep down, you are looking for a reason not to join Team National, be that for the savings or income opportunity, or both, then I would tell you that you shouldn't. This membership is for those who think about cutting their expenses in small and large buying areas of their lives. If you aren't going to take the time to utilize the savings membership, therefore being smarter with your money - don't buy a membership. If you aren't going to be willing to be 100% coach-able and willing to invest some time and energy towards building something of your own that in a matter of months to a few years can create you a multiple six figure, residual income, then go on back and clock in at your J.O.B. in the morning and do that for the next 20, 30, 40, 50 years until you are 70, staying Just Over Broke the whole time, and then retire just about the time you are having to slip on your Depends undergarments and then try to enjoy your life for the first time on your retirement - which averages about 40% or less of what you're making now. See how that works for you. It's why 96 out of every 100 people at the age of 65 are either broke, dead or still working. Do you want to be in the 96 percentile of this equation, or the 4%? Do the math. Don't follow the masses... they are the ones that work for the ones who didn't!
Final Note - see it for yourself and make YOUR OWN DECISION! I thank GOD that I did and thank GOD even more that I didn't listen to people like the ones on here!
God bless J
How long have you been in TN?
The pure nuttiness of this post says all you need to know about Team National followers. Thanks for that insight!
We got conned into it in April. I am very careful about all I buy and look for deals everywhere. Most are easy to find and use without going through the "Amway Pros" at Team National. It is worse than Amway as far as I am concerned and would LOVE to have my money back however they refuse to refund it. They have numerous websites and you go from this one to that one trying to find the deal that you started looking for many sites ago. They all proclaim Christianity and as a Christian I belief they can be both a member of TN and Christian but don't bring that up in your sales pitch! Cannot imagine God wanted us to use others to get rich ourselves.
I was dumb enough to let my boss con me into this crap. Cost me $2195 to buy into my future. BS, that was 10 years ago. I busted my back to follow their plan. Lost a lot of friends and gave up. I am in a wheelchair and could not really afford to do this but they put so much pressure on me the first night I finally gave in just so I could leave. You can sell your spot if you can find someone as dumb as you to spend that kind of money. I would sell for $1500. So if you believe in this so much buy me out. I have multiple people under me. moncrief_1@yahoo.com
if it does not work, why you asking 1500? i would think that if it has no hope you would take much less? how many people do you have under you? i might buy it. ill email you
This Rodney Tames character must have a negative response to all direct marketing opportunities. He does nothing but say the same thing on every post for every direct marketing question or comment. I guess the more you state something, over and over and over and over and over makes it true? This guy here... wow OK you don't like direct marketing... we get it. Your rating has become laughable at this point. Which I am sure your come back will be, " if I save one person from joining >>said company>>> I would have done enough" Well you may get more than that, fine. Hopefully most people who want to become part of our team will do research for themselves instead of reading some hate blog of one person. The more people that buy into you and don't research on their own, they wouldn't do very well in our business ( if they want to share the membership then get a commissions and not use the savings side). The energy you put into lies are unfathomable. What happen? Did you join and not make your money back because you sat behind your pc waiting for someone to call you? Or WHAT? Do you not believe in direct marketing at all? They are ALL scams? My Oh My. Well I am done yapping. God Bless this man Rodney, Give him peace in his heart. Amen.
The problem with a pyramid "ponzi" business model (that has been churched up to be called dsm's by millions of lobbiest dollars) is that in the majority they have a 90% failure rate or higher. It's a confidence game like any ponzi where the product is always overpriced or useless. If it wasn't market demand alone would sell the product. If u are OK getting rich in a confidence game then you are a con artist. That is OK at least you're not a drug dealer but trying to convince friends or family that a business model with a 90% failure rate is a "great opportunity" is a bs low down thing to do to anybody.
How is Team National doing for you?
Hi Wes,
I will say it. TN IS a SCAM.
You say: "TN has the highest ratings with several accreditations, DSA, Dun and Bradstreet, BBB and US Chamber of Commerce. I encourage you to go on the DSA website and read the Code of Ethics for which TN belongs to" This means nothing. the DSA is the industry trade association supported by the members like Team National. The BBB and Chamber are dues supported organizations that are supported by the members. None of these organizations are consumer watchdogs by any means.
You say: "There are a few reasons people aren't successful in the business: 1) they do nothing 2) don't ask for help from their upline 3) don't go to events, training, or listen to cd's or team calls. Oyy. Really, work harder, Give Team National more money, Uplines, downlines. This is the total scam BS.
You say: "And by the way TN scam patrol, how many scams do you know that have co-branded credit cards with MasterCard and Visa. Educate yourself before you spread garbage, people get on these complaint boards" Not sure what MasterCard and Visa have to do with anything. They are a branded credit card processor that works with almost any bank and business. I am sure you are just try to claim legitimacy by association. This means nothing. Just more scammy justification.
You are soliciting here by having your e-mail present. That is in violation of this website and has been reported.
AVOID Team National. Just an old buyers club MLM pyramid scheme. Keep your money and friends. AVOID.
Of course this is a scam! Ole Wes is even giving out his e-mail to sucker/recriuit new people in.
The buyers club is one of the oldest scams out there.
The DSA is their own their industry trade association supported by the direct marketer scam companies! The BBB and chamber of commerce are associations any business can join.
MasterCard and Visa are branded credit card processing companies that work with any business that will pay the fees.
Quit trying to recruit people for this MLM scam. There is only the loss of $2200 for most people on Team National. Avoid.
Anyone who says Team National is a pyramid scheme or MLM needs to educate themselves on what a pyramid scheme and MLM really is. TN has the highest ratings with several accreditations, DSA, Dun and Bradstreet, BBB and US Chamber of Commerce. I encourage you to go on the DSA website and read the Code of Ethics for which TN belongs to. There are only a few DS businesses that receive that honor. I am sorry to hear that some people have not be successful in the company. There are a few reasons people aren't successful in the business: 1) they do nothing 2) don't ask for help from their upline 3) don't go to events, training, or listen to cd's or team calls. TN is not a get rich overnight deal, you have to be consistent and sincere to be successful. And by the way TN scam patrol, how many scams do you know that have co-branded credit cards with MasterCard and Visa. Educate yourself before you spread garbage, people get on these complaint boards and make decisions based on false statements made by people who have no clue what they are speaking of. Team National has been life changing for me and several people in my downline, I know it works. I hate to know someone missed out on an incredible opportunity because of the false information on this site. I can be reached at MadduxTN@yahoo.com to give true factual information or to carry on this conversation.
If you choose not to save money on products that you would buy anyway, that's your decision. What I don't understand is why you have to insist that something is a scam when you haven't even tried it? If you don't want to, fine. I am only in it because I got in for free. When my step son signed up he paid the $2195.00 and because he paid a ONE time fee, over 20 of his family members didn't have to pay a dime! We also get to save on products and services and never have to do anything for it! How is that a scam? In return, he has already made over $20, 000 back and has been able to leave a truck driving job to be in team national full time helping others to save and make money. That's a scam? As I said, I am only using the savings side at this point but I am not trying to discourage anyone else for trying to make any money helping others. I am only wondering why you are?
Sheryl, Of course its a scam. It is by its nature a MLM/pyramid scheme. The old buyers club is one of the older MLM/pyramid schemes. The whole model is recruiting other people so you get a piece of their action. That is an MLM!
Avoid Team National. Keep your money and friends.
Offensive
I have witnessed a friend's brainwashing by the cult-like organization, Team National. The people who have collectively use deceptive tactics and smoke-in -mirrors approach to selling a "non-service, non-product" membership. NOTE: Anyone here on a "complaints" board who touts the virtues of TN is either working for TN or being paid by them. Why go to a complaints board and post positive comments? Think about it, people. It's legit alright. A legitimate scam. Ponzi scheme, affinity scam, pyramid. It fits the definition of all. Expect to get nothing back from your hard-earned money. Pay attention to "complaints" on a complaint board. Disregard everything else if you aren't completely gullible. If you're gullible, you'll want to go to your web browser and sign type in their web address. You'll be on your way to "Heavens Gate" cult membership in no time.
TEAM NATIONAL offers no PRODUCTS, no SERVICES, their primary goal is to keep signing up new members! It's a BIG JOKE!
I disagree, I think that you may have talked with someone who misrepresented the opportunity but that doesn't make the company bad. I do agree that nothing that provides financial benefits comes without work... You just have to decide if you are willing to actually work for it? Its not easy or effortless... nothing is! You are most likely working now for someone else - contributing to their dreams and making them more money than they are paying you. How's that working for you? If it's not then you have to go into business for yourself to change that. Direct selling or MLM is one avenue to do that... but it's not going to happen by itself, no one is going to do it for you and it wont come without sacrifice. If someone tells you that - they are lying about the opportunity. Don't judge a company by that person. We were told straight up front that this can be very lucrative if you work hard, put in the time and help other people do the same... The savings with the company are more than you could get on your own... Similar to the idea of a sams or Costco - its smart business not a scam! If you sat down and added up all the annual memberships to Sams, Costco etc that you have I'm pretty sure it would all add up about the after a few years - only with this Team National you have WAY MORE choices to shop from and they pay you to tell others. Sam's has never paid me a penny to tell my neighbor they were a great place to shop!
Use your brain, pick the right team and work hard! It's not rocket science, but it is a legit business that takes an investment and your time!
I was approached by "Dare Not Say The Name" (Team National). Here's a big red flag: They come at you with "This takes NO effort to make BIG money. All you have to do is give us $2100, and sign up two people. You've already made money! And the checks will keep rolling in! And you can save money on products you already use!"
Fast forward after purchase and the choir changes:
"Obviously you can't make money without putting some work into it. You must be lazy. Or, better yet, CRAZY to think you can just sit back and make money without putting in any effort. You need to "work the system" and "work the upline/downline". Did you attend meetings? Did you listen to the DVDs? Did you sign up more people (more than 2)? If not, how can you expect to make money!?"
MLM is just another word for Pyramid Scheme. And the double talk after the purchase proves they also add insult to injury.
I love how you can say anything without risk of being sued for libel.
I would love to hear about the successful business youve built with pizza boxes in your m your moms basement! Probably selling weed to 12 year olds! Wow! Doesn't feel good does it! Get your facts straight!
Selling weed to 12 years old would be a vast improvement over Team National's pyramid scheme.
This person puts no effort and no work into taking advantage of others and getting rich off their efforts. I don't doubt that it is a good business tactic but for whom? The person that bought a membership has to scam more people just to break even, so it is not good for him/her. The person purchasing the membership, not good for them either cause they have to scam others to get their money back. The savings you get it is just part of the scam ... they want to look legit... they want to give you the appearance they are giving you something, so you get this feeling that you come out ahead without ever selling a single membership. This is all a facade. They want you to buy a membership and they already know you won't break even from the savings on purchases. Even if you could, there are other companies where you don't have to spend $2200 for savings .. Let's get real, this is all about selling memberships and has little to do with product savings.
After you purchase this I have some swamp land down in Florida I'd like to sell you!
Right on. Selling swamp land in Florida would be a huge step up from Team National.
Evidently, this person put no effort in and expected to get rich. its a shame when people who are unsuccessful in a business feel they must make up lies to degrade it.
One the classic MLM/pyramid scheme comebacks: "You are lazy and not working hard enough"
You can do this for FREE-don't Pay
http://home.bigcrumbs.com/couchfamily93 You can go to this site and join for free! Each Store gives you a certain percent back and those that join your link for free also get the same but you also make a small percent back.
Example: Meijer- you get 8% commission and then if someone joined through your link you will get 1% back from their purchase and of course they still get their discount of 8%.
It is easy and free, no cost to you or anyone else. They pay once a month, and it can be put into your paypal account. You can track your commissions and referral purchase commission.
It doesn't cost extra, it doesn't cost your friends who join. It is a WIN-WIN situation. NO MEMBERSHIP FEE! NO RISK! NO LOSS OF $2195. All of your friends and families get the same commisions and refferal commission and doesn't cost anyone anything!
No Scam, just common sense.
Of course Team National is a scam. They are the ones that portray these everyday affiliate deals as somehow they are in "partnership" with Macys, Target, Walmart, etc.. It is to make Team National Seem Legit.
The discounts are not there. The meat of this scam is it is a pyramid scheme. Invest $2200 get 10 other suckers to invest and you get a commission! Same old scam these creeps have been running for decades. I chuckle at their use of affiliates to the left and right of you instead of up or down. How stupid do they think folks are?
AVOID! Old MLM pyramid buyers club.
The affiliate program that you are referring to (from Team National) isn't even counted as a benefit as clearly stated on the sign up documents. This is because TN openly admits you can find the same deals anywhere else. What is a benefit (and a huge savings) are the factory direct deals you get on Indoor/outdoor furniture, home furnishings, automobiles and jewelry. Those are deals that you will not find anywhere else and if you would like I would be glad to share more specific examples of TN factory direct deals that you will not find anywhere else... Check out my attachment below of a hot tub price comparison between team national and another company called spasaunadirect.com. If you would like any real information on Team National benefits and savings then shoot me an email at benjamindallas554@hotmail.com.
Pyramid scheme
This is a pyramid scheme! I wasted almost three hours of my life listening to a load! Not to mention, this was a "friend" of my sisters! Why would I pay $2200 for discounts? Where would the discount be? What REALLY got me was when the guy said, "Don't tell your husband about it. Nothing. He will make an opinion based on what you say, not me." and, "We need to get this thing going NOW!" Why the urgency? I'm not shopping today, so I'm not concerned with the discount right now. OH, I see, it's because someone else will get in "over" me and take my potential earnings. Whatever! Don't be fooled by this scam! In the '80's there were many pyramid schemes that were facing criminal charges. No thanks, I'm nit gonna rush in and pay to be investigated later!
The complaint has been investigated and resolved to the customer’s satisfaction.
My husband and I joined Team National March, 2016. It is a very easy concept but only for certain people. We were ready to run with it but the person whom signed us up turned out to be a ego tripped deputy. I have a steady full time job so it was going to be my husband who worked Team National as he is in construction and would have a better chance regarding time to work it. We both agreed to this so that he could walk away from his job first as he was getting older and it was getting harder for him to continue. (I will bypass some due to being very lengthy) but we advised him that we would work it on a part time basis as we have a busy life with our jobs and family. This guy would not stop calling, texting, etc. I noticed my husband's attitude starting to change to where he was becoming depressed. One night, after a meeting, we had some people interested which brought my husband's attitude up. This [censored] of a deputy called and I noticed my husband's demeanor change. I had it placed on speaker so that I could hear what he was saying. Everything was negative, calling my husband a failure, that he was going to fail, and much much more. I kept mouthing to my husband to please let me say something but he wanted me to hear the whole thing. When we got off of the phone I told him that I never knew him to let someone speak to him like that. He normally tears into anyone like that. The next day he did. He went off so bad that we thought maybe corporate or upline had a talk with this guy as he started being very nice and helpful. So, we gave him another chance after it was sat aside for a couple of months. We did save our money back as since we were Team National members we bought a new car which the dealer sold it for $300 under invoice which was $6800 off not counting what we put down on it. We have also saved through the shopping about $50 per month and have made a little money with them as well. Well, they [censored] started doing his tricks again. Again amongst things in between that I found out, my cousin called from Arkansas and asked me about the company. Apparently, the [censored] phished through my facebook with what was apparently making it look like an add for needing to hire for a cruise liner. She called about the job and that is when he went through the pitch with her. She said he advised her that we knew all about it and were ok with it. He never mention anything about her to us. I asked her how did he set up the meeting and she advised through instant messaging and then got her phone number. The only reason she met with him was that he threw us in the conversation so she trusted that. I about lost it. This was out of my husband's hands as this was my family. Again, much more to tell about this, I went off on this guy and reported it to corporate on the ethics part of it. It was a 3 or 4 page report. I listed everything which was a lot more than what I listed here. We laid it down for a few more months just to get our thoughts together and decided that we were not going to spend that much money and just let it sit. We picked it up and won the free cruise and are moving with it. I have to say we are doing without this idiot anywhere near us. Us and our family and whomever signs up with us we all block him, which he had 3 facebook pages, and his wife since we know he would go through hers as well. This is real people. This is not a pyramid as a pyramid has 3 corners and as you keep adding to a pyramid only the people at top make the money. Team National is unlimited depth which it counts for everyone equally above. We have decided, this is how we are doing it as well, that we consider the people with us are a team and we all help each other in our team. Our team all work together even if it is to help one another and it is working great for all of us. I never thought my husband would be the one to pick up on something like this but I am glad he did. You will have 1 bad person out of a 100 and we did get that one person. We have filed our complaint and he is out of our life. He is in our upline but only on 1 side. It has been so pleasant working with everyone else. The great people we have met is amazing. You will have people out there whom are greedy and only out for themselves, the [censored], but 99% of the people are there to help you with whatever you need. The earnings are huge. I am also a member of Ebates and if I see the return is higher with them, then I will use them, but you cannot earn a residual income with them. The earnings are huge and the savings are real. As I have stated, we have had our issues for the past year but we are working through those and our team is one big family. Would love to talk about it if you would like more information. Email: lisaburney6@yahoo.com
Team National is total scam. This poster even going as far as breaking the this sites rule by soliciting the scam. There are NO savings to be had.
Please answer some of the below questions and comments (no one ever has!):
* If the deals are so fantastic why cant anyone see them or try them before they join?
* Team National touts their affiliation with big retailers as a partnership. This is a stretch. The reality is ANYONE can sign up to do affiliate marketing with almost any online company.
* Per Team Nationals own Federal filings - 94% of associates earned less than $1300 in GROSS revenue in 2015.
* Why the "high pressure" technique to sign up folks? If its so great who cares if they think on this opportunity for a few weeks?
* Is the money made by recruiting?
* Ask the folks pitching this to you to see at least 2 years of tax returns that pertain to their Team National business.
* Does Team National encourage attending meetings and conventions, buying more motivational material?
* Do you have uplines, downlines, sideways lines, and other crazy ways to explain the recruiting income?
* Only 0.03% of associates made a GROSS revenue of over $70, 000 in 2015.
* Have your recruiter explain the whole business and concept in one sentence.
* Team National has been sued by the Federal Government at least once in regards to the business practices.
* Do they tout things like A+ BBB rating and member of the DSA? (These are red herrings as any business maintains an A+ rating just by answering all complaints. The DSA is a trade group for MLM's)
* Do the "deals" seem to be vague? Do they highlight things like furniture and jewelry (very hard to get apples to apples comparisons)?
* Why is Team National debated on almost all scam watch websites?
* Why do Team National followers scream "its not a pyramid scheme"
* Seem like lots of fake posting on the web by Team National shills making vague blankets statements about how much they save and earn?
* So, you need to pay them big bucks to save big bucks? Does that really make sense to you?
* Do you have other fees such as website, shipping charges, etc..
* Be sure to have the folks pitching this to you give factual hard evidence of all savings and commission plans. No excuses.
* Does Team National offer a fair and reasonable cancellation time of lets say 30 or 60 days?
Many people pay a membership fee to shop on Amazon Prime, Sam's Club, Costco...why not pay a membership fee to shop in over 250 places? The fee also includes your kids, grandkids grandparents, and parents. Over a lifetime of all of those shopping, it will save you much more than Amazon's $99/year. How is that a bad deal? Including diapers and formula...everything else. Who wants to find coupon's for everything in your life? Why not TN for all of your shopping needs?
With Amazon I get a real value for my money $99. I get videos, music, free 2 day shipping, plus many other services and a top flight customer service department. I can easily cancel anytime.
What to a I get with Team National for $2399? I get a no cancellation, pressure to recruit friends and family, I get "access" to 250 places? This access is called affiliate marketing by the way and is offered for FREE by these companies to anyone that wants to drive web traffic to them. TN gets NO special pricing from any retail entity that we have been able to follow up on.
To compare scammy Team National to real businesses like Amazon and Sams Club is foolish and misleading. There is a reason TN is sold by high pressure to con folks into this old MLM buyers club.
Scammy MLM AVOID, keep your money and friends. Be happy, join Amazon Prime for a hundred buck!
Not a Pyramid Scheme, Pyramid Schemes are illegal and Team National has been around since 1997 its a Billion Dollar Company who just lets their members reap massive benefits for recruiting instead of paying for advertising.. To put this in prespective you do not have to do the business side at all... That is a perk to being a member if you happen to share you can get paid after awhile or run with it and make lots of money... A pyramid Scheme you have to work the business which is not giving people anything but a loss of money... Team National is a Benefit Package and if you choose not to use it then that is on you.. Just like if you buy a Sams Club or Gym Membership and never use it then you are wasting your money... It does cost $2195 one time fee for 5 Generations of your family use making or saving money. I bought in for $2195 and I have 10 people using that $2195 membership. Everyone of them is saving over $200 a year on their cellphones that is $2000 for the year right there, , , , I have saved over $13000 in a years time...My daughter saved $3700 on her car she got it at Cost.. My mother saves 35% on her contacts and $3000 on her health insurance. My other son saved 35% using Sears Commercial on his paint to repaint his house everyone is using this membership and business...I have won 2 Cruises FREE for Two that paid for my membership and you can win 2 of these a year in the business side... If there wasn't a business side I would still love Team National it has helped me in so many ways keep more money in my pocket.. If you buy a membership for a Dollar and dont use it then you have wasted a dollar.. But if you use it can multiply a million times over ..I Love Team National because I actually use Team National...Try it don't waste it...Only difference in this and Sams Club you get much bigger savings on bigger services and Items it all adds up quicker than you think...
Thanks for yet another one time only shill post telling about the savings, free cruises, ponies and lollipops all because TN is the bestest thing ever! Please Gina. Team National is debated on every scam site there is. Why is that? Because its a scammy MLM/pyramid scheme.
Please answer some of the below questions and comments:
* If the deals are so fantastic why cant anyone see them or try them before they join?
* Team National touts their affiliation with big retailers as a partnership. This is a stretch. The reality is ANYONE can sign up to do affiliate marketing with almost any online company.
* Per Team Nationals own Federal filings - 94% of associates earned less than $1300 in GROSS revenue in 2015.
* Why the "high pressure" technique to sign up folks? If its so great who cares if they think on this opportunity for a few weeks?
* Is the money made by recruiting?
* Ask the folks pitching this to you to see at least 2 years of tax returns that pertain to their Team National business.
* Does Team National encourage attending meetings and conventions, buying more motivational material?
* Do you have uplines, downlines, sideways lines, and other crazy ways to explain the recruiting income?
* Only 0.03% of associates made a GROSS revenue of over $70, 000 in 2015.
* Have your recruiter explain the whole business and concept in one sentence.
* Team National has been sued by the Federal Government at least once in regards to the business practices.
* Do they tout things like A+ BBB rating and member of the DSA? (These are red herrings as any business maintains an A+ rating just by answering all complaints. The DSA is a trade group for MLM's)
* Do the "deals" seem to be vague? Do they highlight things like furniture and jewelry (very hard to get apples to apples comparisons)?
* Why is Team National debated on almost all scam watch websites?
* Why do Team National followers scream "its not a pyramid scheme"
* Seem like lots of fake posting on the web by Team National shills making vague blankets statements about how much they save and earn?
* So, you need to pay them big bucks to save big bucks? Does that really make sense to you?
* Do you have other fees such as website, shipping charges, etc..
* Be sure to have the folks pitching this to you give factual hard evidence of all savings and commission plans. No excuses.
* Does Team National offer a fair and reasonable cancellation plan like say 30 days or more?
Of course Team National is a scam. There are NO real savings. The funniest part is the affiliate savings with big name companies. Folks, those are available to ANYONE. Macy's doesn't care if you are with TN or not. If you drive web traffic to them they will pay a very small commission. Oyy.
Lets get to the meat of this scammy MLM. 94% of affiliates earned less than $1300 in Gross revenue in 2015. That's Gross not net by the way. The real tell is that 0.03% earned over 70k in gross revenue in 2015. That is miniscule. Even if you made the 70k, after your expenses you are probably at 40-50k gross. The reality is you will earn nothing and quite this nonsense in 2 years.
Scammy MLM buyers club, AVOID!
The rebate aspect of the team national savings that you are referring to is a very small part of the savings program. I have studied it in depth, most of the savings is in other aspects. It is vast and covers many industries and many types of savings. It would be better for you to understand the program fully before you review. I posted a review above; my husband bought the savings program and I was very cynical about it until I started using it. I've barely used it and have saved at least $700 after comparison shopping and leaving no rock unturned.
I fully understand the full concept. We had a family member involved and found the "discounts" to be minimal or non existent. This is a classic MLM and the "discount program" is the product to lure members in and then recruit, recruit, recruit.
Well, don't know what to say. I certainly won't argue someone's experience. Reality is reality. I guess it depends on buying habits. But our reality is that we have saved $750 in a few months, and I comparison shopped the heck out of the purchases I made. A lot of others have saved a lot more than I. But FYI- I'm a member of Planet Fitness, Gainesville, GA. My experience is that it's a great gym with a good staff. Been working out there for years. I recently looked at reviews for this gym. Back to back, one reviewer thought it was awesome, the next one thought is absolutely sucked. So- it's all in a person's experience and perspective.
Also--just some facts. I think people get religious about MLM, both for and against. I like to use logic and reason to assess any issue. So-Team National has 435, 000+ members. Approx 6100 members try to do anything with the sales aspect. Most just simply take advantage of group buying power. If it were just about recruiting you wouldn't see these kind of numbers. I personally have friends that are just using it for savings, and are satisfied customers.
My husband bought the savings plan 6 mo. ago. I was like, "meh..." I'm a very skeptical person. So I didn't look at it, use it, figured if it was network marketing it couldn't be a viable product. But then needed to spend money on car rentals, car repairs, and home furnishings. Well, I was WRONG about Team National. I saved a chunk of money, and I compared prices, leaving no rock unturned! I then started following a Facebook page "Savings by TN Members, " and realized the posts were not hyped or fabricated. I understand the cynicism, I was too. And as in any large organization, you have happy customers and some not so happy. Happy employees, some not so happy. Though I guarantee that most TN membership holders that actually use the website are satisfied customers. Real True savings. Now I'm looking into the money that can be made referring it. Mind blowing.
Ok...so I started dating this guy who is an IMD with Team National. He talked about it constantly so I investigated...hence me on this site. When he told me about it, I said "oh that's a pyramid scheme". He went on about his day shrugging it off. Over the months of us dating and his pursuit to get me on board I tuned in to his conference calls every Monday, listened to countless cds, watched him go to conferences and on and on. So during my "investigation" I asked for access to his Team National site because I wanted to do some shopping and to see exactly what I would be saving if I signed up. He doesn't know I have done all of this leg work trying to uncover the "catch". Here's what I have uncovered as a skeptic:
1. The ONLY portion of this that appears to be a pyramid scheme is the fact you can make money off of selling the membership to other people.
2. Team National offers TWO types of membership, one if you want to refer others (2 year or lifetime) and make money and one just for the savings portion.
3. The savings are real. I actually ordered furniture thru Macy's and he received a $49 rebate. They offer a manufaturer direct site link to order as well. The EXACT leather sectional sofa my girlfriend purchased at Ashley Furniture for $2200 was on the factory direct side for $900 and some change.
4. They have over 500 stores to shop and save on. Are you going to get boookkuuu checks from savings...probably not, but I'm buying the stuff anyways, so why not? You can also use coupons.
5. The company has a lot of perks if you are willing to refer and sell the membership.
6. This seems to be a family oriented company where everyone works together.
7. There is a lot of money that can be made, but it is a "sales" business. You would be selling "savings".
8. The Healthcare savings alone are worth the membership.
9. Theyou offer car amd home insurance savings through Met Life
10. Example of stores included in the marketplace for rebates are Walmart, Target, New York & Company, Belk, Macy's, Dollar General, Best Buy, Forever 21..these are just a few.
My unbiased opinion:
If you want to recoup the money spent on your lifetime membership, you will most likely have to work the business but it will be worth the savings in the long run. This is a great membership for a small business owner not only for the savings but Team National places your company on their site FOR FREE. The members try shop in network from what I can tell. FREE ADVERTISING, it pays for itself, no brainer. If you decide to work the business, the company offers tons of support IN PERSON. In the end I feel Team National should offer a different approach because initially one would think this is a pyramid, as did I. However, after hours on end listening and researching, my opinion changed. You can't fully explain that in a 30 minute meeting wit h a Team National rep trying to sell you a membership. Do your own research, most people expect a get rich quick and TN is quick to say, this is a BUSINESS THAT TAKES WORK! Or, they had a bad rep who didn't explain it's entirety. This is my unbiased opinion because I AM NOT a member of Team National because I am not good with talking to people, it's just not me. Like I said before, this is a sales job!
What a load of poopy poop poop. The usual one time post by a TN shill. Answer these questions if they are so legit:
* If the deals are so fantastic why cant anyone see them or try them before they join?
* Team National touts their affiliation with big retailers as a partnership. This is BS. The reality is ANYONE can sign up to do affiliate marketing with almost any online company.
* Per Team Nationals own Federal filings - 94% of associates earned less than $1400 in GROSS revenue in 2015.
* Why the "high pressure" technique to sign up folks? If its so great who cares if they think on this opportunity for a few weeks?
* Is the money made by recruiting?
* Ask the folks pitching this to you to see at least 2 years of tax returns that pertain to their Team National business.
* Does Team National encourage attending meetings and conventions, buying more motivational material?
* Do you have uplines, downlines, sideways lines, and other crazy ways to explain the recruiting income?
* Only 0.03% of associates made a GROSS revenue of over $70, 000 in 2015. (That is less than 1/3 of 1% folks)
* Have your recruiter explain the whole business and concept in one sentence.
* Team National has been sued by the Federal Government at least once in regards to the business practices.
* Do they tout things like A+ BBB rating and member of the DSA? (These are red herrings as any business maintains an A+ rating just by answering all complaints. The DSA is a trade group for MLM's)
* Do the "deals" seem to be vague? Do they highlight things like furniture and jewelry (very hard to get apples to apples comparisons)?
* Why is Team National debated on almost all scam watch websites?
* Why do Team National followers scream "its not a pyramid scheme"
* Seem like lots of fake posting on the web by Team National shills making vague blankets statements about how much they save and earn?
* So, you need to pay them big bucks to save big bucks? Does that really make sense to you?
* Do you have other fees such as website, shipping charges, etc..
* Be sure to have the folks pitching this to you give factual hard evidence of all savings and commission plans. No excuses.
* is there a reasonable cancellation date of say 30-60 days?
Wow I am in team national and let's just say it has been totally awesome for me and my family. A lifetime of savings has started for my parents, myself and my children. I am working the business and tn made it possible for me to sell my restaurant. I am saving money on vehicle insurance, parents have saved thousands on a vehicle. And children are saving on everyday purchases.
Now I do have people on my team that signed on but have yet to do anything with it savings or earnings. But that is their choice maybe they joined just because, but that is not TNs fault they choose not to use what they have their hands on. The only way you loose in TN IS TO QUIT ITS A PERSONAL CHOICE NO TEAM NATIONALS FAULT. SO NO IT IS NOT A SCHEME. IT'S MORE LIKE AN ALL AMERICAN CO-OP JUST LIKE THE FARMERS CO-OP.
If you believe that Team National is a scam then by the same criteria so is Sam's Club or any other membership in which you get discounts on products. If you do not use a Sam's Club membership who's fault is it that you did not save money Sams or your own? The membership and marketing are completely separate entities. You do NOT have to sell a membership in order to save or utilize your Team National membership. The generations of people covered in a lifetime package makes the $2200 an amazing deal. My family have been members for 7months and have already saved in excess of $1000 on everyday items shopping at the same stores we have always visited. Had we been members a month earlier we would have saved 1500 on our Ashley sectional. Bottom line is if you are a member and are not saving money then you are not using the membership to your advantage and that is no ones fault but your own.
In reference to the sales portion, if you get a good deal in a product it is human nature to want to tell your friends. However no retail store has ever paid me a dime to do that however Team National has paid me several thousand dollars to do the exact same thing.
For those who joined and months later wanted a refund, I ask you to go to Sams Club or anywhere else for that matter and ask the same.
You can not just sit on your couch and think you are going to get paid! It's a simple concept-share this awesome company with people, use the system! We have won our first cruise; earned checks, and saved money, but the strangest thing is this company has the most caring group of people in it! It's been a blessing to my family! This company has taught us so much! I have so much more self confidence!
I have saved over $11000 (eleven THOUSAND) with this membership. No respectable company would lock arms with a business if they even remotely thought that is was a fraud. Coldwell Banker, Att, Sprint, Sears, Metlife, and many other HUGE names have locked arms with Team NATIONAL to provide savings to the Americans. My husband and I both tried to talk furniture stores and car dealerships down to what TN discount offers to no avail. It doesn't happen! If you want to save a little, join ebates or big crumbs, no biggie! But if you want DEEP discounts, go TN! Team National has an A+ with the BBB, member of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, and the CEO heads the ethics committee on the DSA. I chose to share this concept with others and have retired doing so. Now, if Google is your "go-to" for research, then you have no business posting a complaint. REAL complaints go to BBB, not google. FYI, pyramid schemes have been illegal for almost 40 years! They don't exist but maybe months at a time without being shut down. Team National is celebrating 20 (TWENTY) years (YEARS) in 2017! Do REAL research. Think for yourself instead of being swayed by others.
I call BS. You haven't saved anything. Most likely a newbie shilling for Team National.
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Team national is making people pay for deals and cashback that you can already find online at places like these free discount and cashback for shopping websites.
Get the same deals for free.
Big crumbs
http://www.bigcrumbs.com/crumbs/landing.do?r=ny60412&s=62880,
And ebates
http://www.ebates.com/rf.do?referrerid=qeghkorrdlilwpd9cqobta%3d%3d
Team national seems to have found good deals and is charging a ridiculous amount of money for the convenience.
Team national is a mlm multi level marketing company that provides savings off the msrp in almost all cases you would be able to find the same discount from a printable internet coupon or by looking around. Team national scam is what the company should be called. Team national complaints are all over the internet. Team national website doesn't provide people with information because they know that that the only way that they will be able to make people sign up is to put people in the pressure situations in which they feel like they are helping out their family and friends. 800 dollars plus is a lot to help out family. When i search for information about them asking for a list of discounts i notice that it really doesn't tell you much. Every term that i've searched to know about the experience of other people by searching team national scam, team national complaints, team national pyramid scheme, team national review, team national mlm scam and have found that nobody seems happy with the company. The discounts that they provide aren't exlusive to being a member of team national.
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I was involved for three years and bought into their "people helping people" BS. I made checks. The fact is that if you work hard (and I did), they will work only on their other leg out of greed so your upline can get checks while you do all the work...I decided to start selling another product totally unrelated (a health product that is phenomenal and does what it promises). I intended to continue using my membership to save pennies here or there (these discounts can all be found for free on the internet if you look very hard) and the second the fat cats worried that they were losing my "points" that I was producing, they had the lovely Christian folks at the home office start sending me certified letters threatening to SUE me. Said that I had signed on with them and had a 3 year non compete. I signed no such statement. As an additional insult, they started sending those same threatening letters (and eventually emails) to my daughter in college! WHO DOES THAT? Please stay far away from these people...
Wow! So glad for the opportunity to air mt grievance against Team National! In 2007 I "invested $2195.oo (on my Visa) in TN. BAD choice. I constantly tried to recruit/sign up people to join in the "pyramid" with NO success. Gave several presentations with no luck. I never got a dime out of my investment. I have literally begged for a reimbursement on my credit card. TN turned a deaf ear. Now I am in dire straits needing available funds on my credit card because of some unexpected emergency dental surgery. If antone knows of a way I could fix this problem please let me know. The person with TN who got me in the program is Alan Smith from Augusta GA. Thanks. I am Ladelle Cauthen Kuglar (appalachain_trail@netzero.com).
The funniest part about all of these comments is that the saving membership is separate from the business opportunity. If you don't want to buy a member and only refer it then you can pay $55 and do it. This is actually cheaper than most direct sales companies when you are required to purchase their product to refer it. I myself do both and am very happy with Team National.
I am not a Team National Member but I can assure you that it is hard to say that their program is scam. Are Sam's Clubs memberships scams? I know people that have had their Sam's Club business memberships for well over a decade, and they have spent upwards of $1200 on their memberships. Where TN seems to differ themselves is with their Business Exchange. I've been told for about a $100 bucks a year, you can get your business on their exchange where you can offer a discount on products and services, 5-10%. They have excellent services for business including very low merchant services rates. I would say, that TN may not be for everyone, but if you are a business owner there can be some benefit there. I have not committed to their business because I am not looking to build another business at this time, and I am investing my funds back into my immediate business. There may came a time when some of my focus can be diverted.
There is no savings to be had from Team National. It is a notorious MLM. The cost is way to high for the pittance of savings. I have family members that got sucked into this and own their own business. They regret every nickle invested in this. AVOID. Old warhorse of a buyers club.
You are not a member of Team National, yet come on a complaints site and make a one time comment defending Team National. You sir, are a liar.
I joined and made a few checks with hundreds and hundreds of hours of work. The "people helping people" thing was a scam - I did it all myself. Not one of my upline ever placed one single person under me. I was even told that MANY people were making hundreds of thousands a year and quite a few folks were making millions. Total lies. Some of their top money earners are making $30-$40k per year. When I decided to leave for another opportunity for a product that people actually WANT, they started sending me threatening certified letters stating that I have been reported attempting to recruit some of their people. WOW. All I did was tell my upline not to keep texting and calling me - not sure what is recruiting about that. I did not sign any type of non compete agreement with these crooks but they claim that I cannot talk to any TN IMDs for three years and they are considering litigation. My daughter in college has even gotten the same letters. The Christian company threatening to sue my child. Run far away from these people...
So I don't know about these other companies, big crumbs and all that... BUT I know I'm not paying any money for a "chance" of saving money. That's dumb. This whole thing just seems dumb. If you claim you saved money, good for you. The only examples I've seen is crap I will never buy, and all the testimonials from previous members denouncing the thing are good enough advice for me. It's shady from the start. You can't see what you're buying, for significant money. I had to listen to someone babble on with an obviously rehashed sales pitch, and had to practically pull teeth to get him to tell me what the company was. This recruiting thing is nonsense. Normal companies attract clients using advertising, good business practices, and quality products. They don't have shady MLM schemes. They just don't. Also, if you're going to try and write a bit telling us how great it is, learn spelling and grammar. If you don't know the difference between your and you're, I don't care what you say.
Tim,
You are correct and spot on here. Team National is all about the upfront fee and then getting you to double down and recruit your friends and family for non existent savings. Its complete rubbish.
There are so many companies out there that are selling the next best thing, but TN does what they say they can do, help families save and earn money (if you chose). I joined 6 years ago to put my business on the business exchange (the membership price is a tax write off because it is a business). It's been great and brought in more business as well as the savings on credit card processing, office supplies etc... My list could go on for a mile long about the savings. I am actively doing the business side as well as enjoying the savings side. I have made my membership back many times over. I'm happy and love the company, which allows me to show this company to my friends and family with pride. What they built and continue to build and improve helps me, my family and my teammates . We all believe the bad stuff because it's easier to do and there is so much of the bad in the world today (scams) that when we finally see a good things, we can't make our minds believe it. There is a better way to make a living that is legal and fun, it's called Team National. With that being said, we are free to post our opinions, and believe me I have read through all of these comments and could respond to so many about the false statements, I hope that anyone reading this will keep and open mind and be able to make a decision for themselves and their families before passing over TN. I'm sure I will get blasted because I love TN but the savings are real, the money is real and the people that run and manage the company are too. I am a Christian and believe that God gives me the abilities to support me and my family and loves me no matter what. I praise God for many things and TN is one of them. I won't apologize if I have offended anyone with that statement. or anything else that I have written. I won't engage in a verbal battle with anyone over this subject either. I won't respond to any of the post after I sign off because it is not going to change my mind or effect my life. I wish you all great fortune, family and love, God Bless!
Oy. Another one comment shill. Still no answer to any of my 20 questions/comments about TN.
Of course this is a scam. There are no savings, just an MLM scheme.
My husband and I signed up almost a year ago. We paid for the lifetime membership. So far we have made $1600 back and have only signed up 3 people. Our upline has done most of the work for us. It is not a pyramid scheme because you can make more money than your upline all day long if you chose to work it. My husband and I have chosen not to work it as much as others because he works out of town. It is the most wonderful company, I get a discount on my insurance, phone bill and electricity. EVERY MONTH. You can not get that on BigCrumbs. Those are just a few ways we have saved money. Why are you so vehemently against TN? How have they hurt you? If you didn't sign up then you aren't out any money.
Just using the word "upline" tells us everything we need to know. You have one post and sounds like the normal planted defending of this scam.
Team National is an old warhorse buyers club scam. AVOID and keep your money and friends.
You also didn't respond to any of the above 20 questions/concerns about Team National.
My wife and I are self employed. However we have also both been in the traditional job market for many years prior to self employment. Her background is as a licensed financial adviser with a very successful financial firm. Early on in our marriage I was a full time, (not volunteer) first responder. I transitioned into a really great position with an international manufacturing company (the home office was based in Wilmington, DE. hint, hint). In 2005 after 15 years of six figure income with this company, she and I decided to make the JUMP into self employment. I resigned my position and launched a design- build residential remodeling company and have experienced a very fulfilling career. So, for the past 34 years we have lived the American dream, doing what we had been programmed to do – work hard, be good neighbors, be productive citizens and teach our children to do the same. We are not offended by hard work, and do not expect “something for nothing”.
We now have 2 amazing grandchildren that live really close to us. Our hearts long to spend as much time as possible with them. In Jan 2016 we began looking for a way to create a second stream of income without the entanglements of rental properties. Something that would not add too much to our already full schedule – that would have the potential to actually generate a little time freedom for us. We were approached (its by invitation only) with Team National during this same time frame – a very busy time in our careers. She and I were working 60+ hours a week (the new normal for this generation) and squeezing LIFE in on the weekends. I have to say we were not immediately on board because it sounded too good to be true. It sounded like one of those “things”. In my line of work I spend a lot of money at Lowes and Home Depot – two of many places we purchase from daily. Through a partnership with Team National, both of these companies are paying generous rebates to TN members. There are well over 400 stores participating as of this writing. I saw a way to recoup the $2195 in a very short period of time using only this one avenue and these two specific stores. The process was simple – the income was passive – I did not have to change what I was buying – or where I was buying it from. So – if NOTHING else was true about anything else they pitched to me – it made sense – and it would cost me money if I did not join. We purchased the $2195 lifetime membership. This ONE purchase covered all of our bio-parents – including our bonus parents, our children, grand kids, and great grands when they arrive.
We have clients that have rental properties. My company assists investors in making their properties rent ready and keeping them in great shape. I know this market quite well. You probably know someone that does also. Thankfully we no longer have rental units. A typical low end investment in our market for a 3br, 1bath is around $65, 000. The income from that investment could potentially gross $850 per month, $10, 200 annually (~15%/yr) before Income tax. Certainly a decent ROI. If this note is servicing debt then the net ROI will be much lower. My $2195 investment using only the rebates from my daily purchases from the 2 stores mentioned is returning $200 on a low month and as much as $700 on a high month. If we average the high and low we get ~$450 per month, $5, 400 annually – and Rebates are NOT considered INCOME….so….that is Non taxable income. How sweet is that? That is a 246% return! Our entire investment was repaid in less than a year – and now we are cash positive. This is only using ONE of the hundreds of benefits. Of course not everyone spends the same – so each will have a different set of values. What I can say without a doubt is that our life has been forever changed.
We began sharing this concept with a only a few of our close friends in April of 2016. People that have a great work ethic; people with a positive outlook on life. To-date 16 of those friends have joined us. Those 16 have turned into over 100 teammates in a few short months. As a direct result of our efforts in TN my wife was able to resign from her financial career at the end of June 2016. She held this position for over 10 years. Yes, you guessed it – the income side works too, just like we were told.
For those who would say it does not work – or its a pyramid (pyramids are illegal), or you can find better deals on your own, I say – take off your blinders. What are you afraid of? Sure its a different concept, but its been around for 20 years! Is it perfect? No, but what is?
For those who would say it does not work – or its a pyramid (pyramids are illegal), or you can find better deals on your own, I say – take off your blinders. What are you afraid of? Sure its a different concept, but its been around for 20 years! Is it perfect? No, but what is?
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You are clearly the exception (not that I believe you). Team National's own affiliates disclosure shows that 94.6% of affiliates had GROSS earnings of $1400 or LESS.
Answer the below questions and maybe we will take your planted response seriously:
* If the deals are so fantastic why cant anyone see them or try them before they join?
* Team National touts their affiliation with big retailers as a partnership. This is a stretch. The reality is ANYONE can sign up to do affiliate marketing with almost any online company.
* Per Team Nationals own Federal filings - 94% of associates earned less than $1400 in GROSS revenue in 2015.
* Why the "high pressure" technique to sign up folks? If its so great who cares if they think on this opportunity for a few weeks?
* Is the money made by recruiting?
* Ask the folks pitching this to you to see at least 2 years of tax returns that pertain to their Team National business.
* Does Team National encourage attending meetings and conventions, buying more motivational material?
* Do you have uplines, downlines, sideways lines, and other crazy ways to explain the recruiting income?
* Only 0.03% of associates made a GROSS revenue of over $70, 000 in 2015.
* Have your recruiter explain the whole business and concept in one sentence.
* Team National has been sued by the Federal Government at least once in regards to the business practices.
* Do they tout things like A+ BBB rating and member of the DSA? (These are red herrings as any business maintains an A+ rating just by answering all complaints. The DSA is a trade group for MLM's)
* Do the "deals" seem to be vague? Do they highlight things like furniture and jewelry (very hard to get apples to apples comparisons)?
* Why is Team National debated on almost all scam watch websites?
* Why do Team National followers scream "its not a pyramid scheme"
* Seem like lots of fake posting on the web by Team National shills making vague blankets statements about how much they save and earn?
* So, you need to pay them big bucks to save big bucks? Does that really make sense to you?
* Do you have other fees such as website, shipping charges, etc..
* Be sure to have the folks pitching this to you give factual hard evidence of all savings and commission plans. No excuses.
* Does Team National of a fair and reasonable cancellation plan like say 30 days or more?
Well, a pyamid scheme is a false accusation that is easily proven by the Team National company acceptance into the Direct Sales association and being accepted into Dunn & Bradstreet for almost 20 years of providing a savings program! Of course this is not the only company out their with savings rebates but in my experience it is superior in offering for saving from A-Z on all items for living a lifestyle in America. You also have a chance to making an income by sharing this membership that has top companies in this direct sales industry paying close attention on how the success of high numbers of people work this business successfully! So those lots of people who don't want to be accountable for their own failues to perform what it takes to make any business a success, they find reasons to blame the company and other people of them being the victim of their failure to meet the opportunities this company has offered them! What I know after three years is that it is real and it's your choice to save and be as successful with this business as you want to be! For those using Scam., pyramid, lies ect., ect, it is not a qualified opinion! So Learn how you qualify your opinion!
"Team National company acceptance into the Direct Sales association and being accepted into Dunn & Bradstreet"
This means nothing. The DSA is the trade association for MLM companies. D & B is an analytical firm that supplies data to its member and is open for any company to buy its services.
Team National is MLM buyers club. The buyers club is one of the old warhorses of MLM. Does it really make sense to anyone that you need to pony up $2300 now for BIG savings later? Of course not. AVOID!
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