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Plenty of Fish, Vancouver, British Columbia Complaints & Reviews - Fraud and cheating

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Plenty of Fish

Posted:    Simon

Fraud and cheating

Complaint Rating:  90 % with 81 votes
Contact information:
Plenty Of Fish
Vancouver, British Columbia
Canada
plentyoffish.com
This site has used an electronic switch tactic in that if you select the 'serious Member' option charge of three months, they will BILL you for the FULL YEAR! I wasn't aware of the 'switch' until AFTER they sent me a confirmation message informing me of the amount charged!

I immediately contacted my bank and filed a charge dispute, as there is NO WAY TO CONTACT POF DIRECTLY! I even submitted a 'scam' claim against themselves on their site, to no avail.

I am now championing an effort to post a complaint on EVERY forum they have so the word gets out and I get a response from the site. I updated my profile as well with a warning at the beginning. No doubt the next thing that happens is that my profile will be removed from the site, and I will have no recourse to warn anyone and everyone, except HERE!


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 3rd of May, 2009 by   garybono +2 Votes
Plenty of Fish is garbage, the owner gives the impression he is in North America and he is no where near...the site is a complete joke...underage girls/men posing as women/hookers/etc...and he further claims he is uniting millions through the goodness of his own little heart running the system for free because paid services are supposedly ripping people off...meanwhile he makes millions allowing these same services he criticizes to advertise on POF to profit from them and now is trying to suck even more money with his integrity gold seal of approval that is completely worthless.And don't even talk about the Mods in the Forums...pathetic assholes who have no idea how to run a system and don't allow FREEDOM OF SPEECH.Plus all you hear about is the success rate...how about all the men that have been ripped off/women abused/idiots who have been on there for years because they have massive psychological problems...as I said...the site is a joke and if people had any integrity they'd speak up instead of fearing getting banned and go after their civil rights.
 21st of Nov, 2009 by   lynnay +1 Votes
Our credit card was just frozen as a result of an unauthorized charge to, you guessed it, Plenty of Fish. A $1000 charge, no less!! Jesus H. Christ, thank God our bank thought that was fishy, yes pun intended, and put a fraud alert on our card, disallowed the charge, and filed a fraud alert against them.

STAY AWAY FROM THIS WEBSITE.
 26th of Nov, 2009 by   Lev Yur'evich Kamensky +1 Votes
I get asked by women what I think about Plenty of Fish. Thinking is for the impaired, DEDUCTION is for people with normal IQ.

First of all, as of now, Thursday, November 26, 2009, one's level of education is categorized under "smarts." Smarts are not defined by professional degrees. The smartest people I know are self-educated. An amateur built the Arc. A bunch of guys with diplomas built the Titanic. Even Moliere said "an educated fool is more foolish than an uneducated one."

This does not mean that I am compatible with the pathetic modern day version of the "coffee shop lawyer" --- "the internet debater quack." And I already ran into one of those idiots, thanks to the site's profound calculations.

Secondly, a man who does not know and knows it, is not foolish. A man who does not know and thinks that he knows --- is. You do not know anything about love. Inventing an algorithm to match people, when you do not know anything about love, leads to mismatching them.

Thirdly since when are men not allowed to show nipples? Does your girlfriend make you pee sitting down? How dare they shame men for being men! As Baltasar Gracian said "nothing enhances a man as much as being a man." So it follows that the more you apologize for being male the more repulsive your are.

Fourthly confident men do not try to intimidate people with warnings because you can only push an invertebrate. Spines do not fold like wings. You have to be an invertebrate yourself to project the same behavioral response on someone else.

Put two and two together and we have a sycophant, a conniving moral coward. I do not put people down, I do not even put them in their place, but I am not responsible for lifting them up, so I will not pretend they are anywhere else than where they are. If they do not like where they are they can stick their head in the sand and hope nobody bites their butt.
 26th of Nov, 2009 by   The CAT +1 Votes
Note to "garybono" - freedom of speech does not apply to private companies. It only applies to government (and then, only the US government) censoring individuals.'

I'm Canadian, and I know your bill of rights better than you. Holy crap.

To the OP - porn sites are rarely "legit". Most of the ones that require you to pay are scams, and are often full to the gills (if you pardon the pun) with viruses just waiting for you to click the wrong ad.

Does that mean you're stuck? No - call up your bank or credit card company, get the charge reversed and get a new card right away. Yes it sucks, but honestly with the amount of FREE PORN on the internet, there is no excuse for buying it anymore.
 26th of Nov, 2009 by   Lev Yur'evich Kamensky -1 Votes
I get asked by women what I think about Plenty of Fish. Thinking is for the impaired, DEDUCTION is for people with normal IQ.

First of all, as of now, Thursday, November 26, 2009, one's level of education is categorized under "smarts." Smarts are not defined by professional degrees. The smartest people I know are self-educated. An amateur built the Arc. A bunch of guys with diplomas built the Titanic. Even Moliere said "an educated fool is more foolish than an uneducated one."

This does not mean that I am compatible with the pathetic modern day version of the "coffee shop lawyer" --- "the internet debater quack." And I already ran into one of those idiots, thanks to the site's profound calculations.

Secondly, a man who does not know and knows it, is not foolish. A man who does not know and thinks that he knows --- is. You do not know anything about love. Inventing an algorithm to match people, when you do not know anything about love, leads to mismatching them.

Thirdly since when are men not allowed to show nipples? Does your girlfriend make you pee sitting down? How dare they shame men for being men! As Baltasar Gracian said "nothing enhances a man as much as being a man." So it follows that the more you apologize for being male the more repulsive your are.

Fourthly confident men do not try to intimidate people with warnings because you can only push an invertebrate. Spines do not fold like wings. You have to be an invertebrate yourself to project the same behavioral response on someone else.

Put two and two together and we have a sycophant, a conniving moral coward. I do not put people down, I do not even put them in their place, but I am not responsible for lifting them up, so I will not pretend they are anywhere else than where they are. If they do not like where they are they can stick their head in the sand and hope nobody bites their butt.

Saved my profile... I asked them for a refund, don't know yet if they refunded my money when they deleted my "serious" profile mhtml:http://api.ning.com/files/OS5NJWLR74-BMDWcy*N-*dVYufwoRiUIj931PSUg3eI_/PlentyofFishreview.mht will have to check my bank account balance

Remember --- if you will not be the clown you will be the fool
 26th of Nov, 2009 by   Lev Yur'evich Kamensky +1 Votes
This was my profile, html:http://api.ning.com/files/OS5NJWLR74-BMDWcy*N-*dVYufwoRiUIj931PSUg3eI_/PlentyofFishreview.mht
 26th of Nov, 2009 by   Lev Yur'evich Kamensky 0 Votes
CAT wrote "Note to "garybono" - freedom of speech does not apply to private companies. It only applies to government (and then, only the US government) censoring individuals.'"

It applies to Government because it is a widely recognized human value, and people that do not value freedom of speech are as bad as bad governments.
 27th of Nov, 2009 by   Lev Yur'evich Kamensky +1 Votes
SORRY FINALLY GOT THE LINK RIGHT... THIS PROFILE NO LONGER EXISTS...

http://api.ning.com/files/OS5NJWLR74-BMDWcy*N-*dVYufwoRiUIj931PSUg3eI_/PlentyofFishreview.mht
 27th of Nov, 2009 by   Lev Yur'evich Kamensky +1 Votes
I broke all the TOS on purpose after the Admin gave me the "first and last warning" and he ended up giving in and letting me keep the "torso photo." Only after I wrote a review of his site in my profile did he delete it. Both spineless and a coward.
 27th of Nov, 2009 by   Lev Yur'evich Kamensky +1 Votes
http://www.lavaplace.com/ here is a no drama free dating site LAVA PLACE
 27th of Nov, 2009 by   The CAT 0 Votes
Lev - people who talk about "freedom of speech" are actually addressing a constitutional right they have in the united states to not be censored by their own government. Not to pick on China - but it is a good example - you cannot talk about "freeing Tibet" - the government itself censors this topic, and may even act against you for mentioning it. In the US the government cannot do anything against its own people - so long as what you're saying is not a direct threat - but you can say anything you want to - about any topic you want to, controverial, racist, ignorant, insane. It doesn't matter.

But that "right to freedom of speech" only has an application if the government gets involved. People do NOT have the right to speak freely under various rules of private corporations, or against individuals. Otherwise, you'd have more harassment issues than you could shake a stick at. And I, as a person who works in retail, could tell customers what I really think about their mindless, pointless pathetic complaints.

What's pathetic is that many people assume that "freedom of speech" applies universally, even within private organizations or against individuals, and many Americans assume that that right can protect them in other countries as well - WHERE IT DOES NOT APPLY.

Saying that "if you were a good and decent person, you'd let anyone say anything they want, even in a priavtely owned intitution" is a ridiculous claim - then I'd have the right to talk about anything, even horribly disturbing and disgusting and inappropriate things in the middle of your kindergarten classroom - I'd be able to scream that god is dead in a church service - I could threaten people at the local grocery store.

No. That right cannot apply, EVER, in a private situation. Just because you wouldn't take advantage, doesn't mean that others wouldn't either.

Freedom of speech is NOT universal - and we should be glad that it isn't.
 2nd of Feb, 2010 by   Kis. 0 Votes
This site is a scam. I was told to upgrade to the Serious Member status and that it would increase my chances of 230%. Well guess what? After a nice profile and a NOTHING!!! Also the site said it would bill me 5.95 a month and instead took it $$ 72.00 out of my account all at once. When I tried to complain to customer service it was impossible. There is no way. They also probably lie by saying that there is 1.5 people to deal with everyone's complaint and that they will get back to you within a few days. To make matters worse there is no place for you to file a grievance and the owner of the website states that if you don't go to the help section and read one of the many ways to make your experience better than they will not respond to you. Well guess what as well? My FAQ was not there at all. Do not waist your time on this site. It's a wannabe like Match.com or EHarmony. At least they have customer service numbers where you can get in touch with them the owner of this site knows exactly what he is doing. I hope he gets what he deserves and wonders how he sleeps at nice knowing that he is scamming plenty of people out of money. He is scum of the earth. DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES GIVE THIS WEBSITE A TRY. Since joining it and becoming a serious member my chances have not increased 230% they at all.
 14th of Feb, 2010 by   CaliJaden 0 Votes
This site is a scam and the men on POF are losers. There is no safety feature. If you are an attractive woman and date on this site the men will harass you endlessly. You can say no but thanks...harassment emails begin. You can ignore...harassment emails begin. You can block them and they create new ones. The safety feature is not there and apparently no one cares. I think they will continue their ways until someone is finally harmed or killed, although I hope not but bad publicity seems to be the only think that will bring about some attention to this issue. The loss of good ole $$$.
 23rd of Feb, 2010 by   richardc 0 Votes
You get what you pay for. If you pay nothing, you might actually get nothing.

I’ve used Plentyfish and it sucks despite having a large membership database. Most of the people I’ve met were flaky, confused and immature.

Plentyoffish is not a very good site at all, just like 99.9% of all free dating websites. The people you would meet on these sites will waste your time, and are flakes since most people attracted to free sites are not serious enough to pay for a real dating website. They either join it out of boredom, curiosity or to mess around. If you aren't serious enough to pay for a service, then you most likely aren't very serious about using that service either.
You get what you pay for and this is very true in the online dating world.

The point of these sites is to suppose to be a service of convenience, to aid in finding someone to date. They are suppose to aid in helping you meet someone other than wasting your time trolling bars, bookstores, etc. These free sites keep forgetting that they are providing a DATING SERVICE of convenience which is suppose to save you time and energy. They don't really care about their member, website quality as much as they care about ad impressions and click through rates. In turn all these free sites or any sites which allows free profiles or limited free contact and has the word "free" anywhere on their website is going to be a degraded, cut down version of a real service.

Think about this, would you go to a mechanic who is very cheap, but uses badly beaten up, used cheap parts and child slave labor to keep costs down in order to lure people to their shop, so a bunch of back alley guys associated with them will try to sell you shady products or actually go to a real mechanic who you pay to get to the point, fix your car and who uses new parts?

My advice is to only use 100% pay to enter websites which are much safer from flaky people, time wasters, and minors posing as legal adults, scam artists and players. The process of having to enter a credit card and address makes it easier to deter, catch scam artists, or violent people. This adds a big layer of protect you from most of the stuff which runs wild on a free site. Don't even think about using a partially free site, like singlesnet, etc. Even if you use a partially free website, with limited access and pay for a pay membership on that service, you are still getting a cut down version of a service and are probably worse off than actually being on a free site since you will be paying and 90% of the members are free members, so basically you are paying for a degraded service.

The founder of Plentyoffish claims to have ruined the online dating business model, but that is like claiming that cheap hole in the wall restaurants or hotels, ruined the business model for fancy hotels and fancy restaurants.
In end, avoid all free dating sites if you value your time.
 11th of Mar, 2010 by   Not so 0 Votes
The more bogus plentyoffish profiles people click on, the more more advertising revenue the manipulative site owner receives. So its in his interest to have lots of fake men and women who don't respond back to e-mails, keeping people ad-clicking away. Its not really a dating site anyway, but a social network, and to lure people into viewing advertising under the pretense you can find someone at plentyoffish. The SERIOUS USERS feature introduced last year doesn't get any better responses either, and is about every bit as bad as the fake profiles. The fake profiles in part exist to con people into a false sense of security having them pony up as a SERIOUS USER. Maybe all this is only the prelude to prep people into believing that it needs to be turned it into a pay-site. Plentyoffish is not about finding someone, but about the owner lining his pockets.

http://www.topdatingpicks.com/plenty-of-fish-reviews.html

Master-hypocrite "Marcus Fraud" obscures and diverts attention away from his scams by positioning himself as a saviour against "Evil Paysites" mining user pocketbooks. Now he says he's doing the samething, grabbing every buck he can.

All just marketing nonsense, you are just a statistic, a dollar, one of the cattle in his dating pasture.


Just keep clicking on them links, nothing else really matters but the mighty buck.
 20th of Apr, 2010 by   Abalone 0 Votes
This site is a colossal scam.
Many people can t see what is going on because they believe the world is full of friendly, compassionate people.
They go back home after a day s work, their heart skip a beat before logging in
They think it s time to rejoice and dare a few steps towards other human beings.
They can t guess they are the unfortunates ones who just fell into a trap .
Their activities are going to be observed through their mails box, whatever they will write will be read or read/delete or unread or unread/delete.
They will receive messages from people who will disappear as soon as they answer to them, if they join a forum, they will be humiliated, scorned, laughed at and denied the title of human beings because the so called mods will not tolerate any freedom of speech to the rebellious items.
In this case You and I.
But remember : Those entities are just beggars. every time you click, you put a tip into their jar .
One more thing. Markus Frind isn t the sole benefactor of this scam gang.
POF is a fraction of disgusting schemes.
Ad nauseum.
Check on Plenty Of Fish Sucks blogs on Wordpress. You will be stunned by the hateful comments about women.
Those men are supposed to have mothers, sisters, some of them daughters!
Where is M. Frind?
When you claim you want to help people who are you bread winners, you are supposed to be standing straight against nasty adversaries ...
Are those blogs a kind of publicity?
Well M. Frind is invisible and prefers to comment about Olympic flames or Ladies Gagas.
After all, what can you expect from someone whose blog s motto is : Survive or die?
 24th of Jul, 2010 by   Abalone -1 Votes
Here is a benign riddle:

If Plenty of Fish IS garbage, will Simon charge THE amount of THE mismatch?

Answer:

Put two and two together,
Add spines that do not fold as wings,
Catch the cat by the tail,
Ask Balthazar Grecian if he is a sycophant- conniving- moral- coward.
Protect your family jewels if he happens to be around,
Save your profile and
Proclaim that freedom of speech is NOT universal.

BE GLAD!
 22nd of Dec, 2010 by   nancy franks 0 Votes
i agree about plenty of fish it is a scam and not a good dating site .they will delete your profile off for no reason at all plenty of fish sti nk and it suck
 22nd of Dec, 2010 by   nancy franks +1 Votes
plenty of fish suck and it stink they will delete your profile off for no reason and not tell you why so it stink and suck
 22nd of Dec, 2010 by   nancy franks 0 Votes
i hope that all peoples that is on plenty of fish get off of it cause plenty of fish is a scam and it suck

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