Bethea Jenner / MyHealthWealthAndHappiness.com / MyHWH.com review: astrology and psychic rip off! 149

I just want to thank you all for airing your experiences. I don't do anything without checking it out first, now because there are so many scams going on. I hate that so many people have had such awful experiences, but the fact that you are sharing them have helped me from making a huge mistake. You're all fantastic for giving all this information and I think it sucks that you've had to go through all this crap.

HERE A WEB SITE TO COMPLAIN TO ABOUT YOUR MONEY BEING TAKING, OTHER HAVE RETURN THE NECKLACES OR JEWLERY BUT NEVER RECIEVED THIER MONEY BACK TILL THEY PUT THEIR COMPLANT HERE /link removed/ HERES ANOTHER BLOG OF THE EXACT E-MAILS SHE SENDS OUT PLUS STORIES OF HOW SHE NOT A PSYCHIC BUT AN ENVLOPE STUFFER WITH A BAD TEMPER FOR A RAIDO STATION (WHO GOT FIRED) WITH AN IDEA TO MAKE HERSELF RICH http://kellysullivan.wordpress.com/2007/05/12/i-had-no-idea-how-special-i-was/ I HATE THE FACT THAT SHE STEALS FROM PEOPLE DOWN ON THEIR LUCK

This company is not what it seems to be . I ordered a necklace nov 07, i then put the necklace on only to realize it had broken . I was told by this company to send it back. i sent it back in nov 07 . Today is october 08 and still no return.All i would like to say is KARMA! These ladies have no idea the karma they are now creating for themself.

hi people!

thanks to whoever put this site up.
i was about to buy one of her products.

lucky i found this, i dnt wnt to be suckererd into a scam.
remember people astrologers and money dont mix unless ur're dealing with them in person.
Listen people im just curious. Did any of these astrologers daily readings actually relate to anything in your life?
because a few of the readings i hav receive did appear to be true.
if anything similar has occured to any one of u please put it on this site as i would like to know if im the only one.

Thanks

Your right of course, it is all poop and Bethea probably has one of those handbags herself to fill up with all the riches she got ripping people off LOL. But at least something is being done about it and she is clearly been panicked into refunding peoples money as there are messages all over the internet from her now, saying how shes helped people (hilarious) with her powers and knowledge and all. What a charlatan.

I've never had to unpleasant experience of dealing with her. Just for fun, I tried a few lines of her numbers awhile back for a lottery here in Canada. She was asking me to buy a pendant from her, which of course was to bring me great wealth. I'm thinking as any logical woman would think...hey if you think I'm going to be that wealthy, why not ask to call me? Then set up a date to let me know how, why, when etc. Then I would have offered her a cut in my winnings, but of course I realized she is a fraud. I tried her numbers and not one of them was correct. So I wouldn't have anything to do with this woman. BTW, anything stated as too good to be true in any aspect of one's life, is probably exactly that! Too good to be true. LOL

Oh last week I was to buy a medallion which was supposed to guard over me and today a hand bag to fill up with all my riches. Too funny..and I can't believe anyone would believe her poop!

thanks for the advice, may have just saved me a lot of wasted time.This did look genuine to me, but something made me think to google her, maybe I had a psychic insight lol!

Thanx to you all, l have also been recieving mails from her and was about to purchase a bracelet from her but know l have changed my mind.

The only person we should trust is JESUS!

Re: Bethea Jenner: I agree with the last post. Not only that but her predictions are phoney. I signed up to her 'service' a few months ago and nothing she said rang true. I had just split up with my boyfriend of five years and was feeling low or I might not have been taken in. What a waste of money that was. Bethea Jenner sucks people in when they are feeling desperate. Either she believes she can see into the future in which case she's one delusional old biddy or she is ripping us off with the pretence. Look at her photo on her website - that's one fake smile for sure. And she is attempting to saturate the internet with her glowing testimonials too. More are added every day it seems, like a kid faking her own school report card.

I thought of something similar Kenneth. There is an episode of South Park where the boys hear the girls in the playground playing with a 'fortune telling device'. It turns out to be one of those paper games little girls work with their forefingers and thumbs, cat's cradle-like, with numbers and letters on the corners. The boys really believe it has magical powers and hatch a plot to capture it. It's hysterical. Your point about Bethea Jenner's passage to hell is spot on. If she really believes in cosmic power and kharma and good and bad vibes and so forth, she better look at her misdemeanours long and hard instead of blaming 'vendettas' and such like. She is indeed maligned here and on other sites, but it is BECAUSE OF HER ACTIONS not because others are vindictive. Do unto others Bethea. If you were ripped off or in some way duped, you would complain and be angry too.

I received an email from Bethea Jenner. She offered a free reading and so on and so forth. Then when you send your birthday info, you are sent to another web page offering to sell you a lucky charm bracelet and other junk. When I saw this, I googled Bethea Jenner. And like the character out of Gommer Pile USMC would say... Shazam! There were all these reports of people getting ripped off. So, thank you all for your stories and personal experiences. MY guess is that Bethea Jenner better run fast because the flames of hell are licking at her heels. The only way out for her is to refund all the money, make a full public confession and do community service. That is just MY Guess. I am not a psychic, and I don't claim to be. I have my own problems, just like everybody else in the world.

I ordered a medallion from Rochelle and Bethea and did make an online ayment through my HSBC credit card but till date I have neither received a confirmation email or number regarding the same. All i received was a web link to log on which never works So they are fake and cheats. So please waste your time and money on these cheats. and this was the link I gotto log on https://www2.myhealthwealthandhappiness... Cheats they cheat people in the name of God and he will never forgive them.

This may be of interest in the Law section of Wiki questions:
" Why haven't British laws taken effect to stop 'psychics' like Bethea Jenner from making false claims yet?"
In: Health, Business and Finance, Police and Law Enforcement

The law will need approval by parliament. The Office of Fair Trading says enforcement of the new regulations will be used against foreign mass mailshot fraudsters extracting money so the fraudsters should soon find their number is up.

I have purchased this Archangel Michael Medallion from myhealthwealthandhappiness.com with a 30 day money back guarantee. After my last payment I received an email from bethea@myhealthwealthandhappiness.com to ask me if I was happy, and I wrote back that I was NOT. She emailed me back with the address and phone number to send it back, she will refund my money. I have a delivery confirmation number from post services that it was delivered on 7-9-08. Today is 7-26-08 and I got an email from bethea and phone call from her 'assistant' that it was never received. And now I am not even getting any responses from the company or any individuals. This company and their services is horrible and their products are fake. If they will not refund, do not lie to people just to make them buy.

It depends on how your feeling at the time she e-mails you Bill, but I know I will never believe in that rubish again.
I've made a website to try and stop people from buying from her, I've also put a Forum on it for people to talk about her.

The wesbite address is:- www.freewebs.com/donotbuyfrombeatheajenner

Why anyone believes it when they're told magic will make their lives better is beyond me. Psychics, astrologers, and clergy are all just con artists.

I know she doesn't just hold on to your details because she has taken £200 off me so far and I have a 2 year old daughter to feed.

Bethea is just Evil.

She doesn't just hold onto the bank details, she takes money out without our permission and this is what is getting people so upset. People are posting all over the net saying they are ending up so out-of-pocket that they can't feed their kids because of her money-making racket. How can she go on justifying this? I notice she has posted hundreds of new stories about how wonderful she is on the net now to redeem her reputation. She would be better off just stopping what she's doing because it is immoral and likely to end up with a court case.

Yes it is outrageous.
I've been the Police but they haven't contacted me back yet, they should do soon though. They said what she's doing isn't 'Fraud', but it is 'Theft', because she holds onto your account details without your permission.

Its really frustrating!

Her address is in North London and is on this website somewhere. It is outrageous what is going on with these people.

Myhealthwealthandhappiness charged my bank account 6/16/08 for $36.90, and again on 7/17/08 for $36.90, these were unauthorized charges. I emailed both myhealthwealthandhappiness.com, and betheajenner.com, in June demanding a credit be given to my bank account for $36.90. Of course, I did NOT receive a response nor a credit.

I again emailed both again today, 7/17/08, and requested, again, they stop these charges, and credit my bank account. These unauthorized charges are considered FRAUD, and I doubt very seriously that I will receive a response, nor a credit to my bank account. They owe me $73.80, I know it's not much, but it is to my family. I have never received anything from these people, nor did I order anything. I did go to their website, but did cancel an order that I was going to place. I cancel due to me doing a little research. However, they held onto my bank account information, and charged me. I have read others complaining about them as well as myself. They apparently have done this same thing to other people.

Something needs to be done. Now, since they have taken money from my account, we won't be able to get as much food for the week, and there are 3 people in this household.

Denise
Overland Park, Kansas
U.S.A.

I got one i think is interesting too about people writing their own testimonials. LOL.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/04/technology/04republic.html?ex=1315022400&en=cc629c6ec5d5805d&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

This might be of interest too:
http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/article4249602.ece

For those who were asking, this is the website with the information on the mass emails sent by Jenner and co:
DR. JOE'S SNAKE OIL EMPORIUM: Promises, Promises27 Jun 2005 ... 4 Apr 2005 @ 23:24 by Ingrid Jahra @200.108.26.136 : Promises Promises ... This one calls herself Bethea Jenner. Thanks for this site, ...
www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/_v241/__show_article/_a000241-000140.htm - 360k -

I must have a major case stupidity because I fell for her promises hook, liner and sinker. Right now I am trying to block a purchase that I made on her online network with my debit card . I probably have to open a new bank account because of this mess.

From Bethea Jenner's latest self-publicity: “What can you do about falling stock prices, the collapse of the housing market, or the fact that the dreaded word recession is on everyone’s lips? The answer is protect yourself with a 24K Gold vermeil Amulet of Ultimate Protection, ” read the offer. All of this for the bargain price of $24.99.
Surely this is fraud? An Amulet, gold or otherwise, will not protect anyone from anything. Either she is stupid and really believes this or it's a con. It could be argued that people worried about recession shouldn't be wasting money on trash.

I agree with Daryl. A very good point.

I received an email from this Bethea Jenner through spam. To target people through spam is very lowly anyway. I was curious so I opened it and where it said get your free forecast, as soon as you clicked, you were directed to an advertisement askingyou to buy a medallion or talisman she recommended for good luck. I thought it was all pretty obvious and silly, so I googled her and could not believe how many complaints there are about her. Then it did not seem to be so silly anymore; plain dangerous, it seemed! What is really sad, is that there are so many people out there with real problems, vulnerable and sometimes desperate, who would hang onto anything to just keep on going. How disgusting that people like Jenner pray on them. How can she sleep at night? doesn't she worry about her own karma because of what she does to people?

I wonder why Jenner can't see that the people who complain are fed up because they have been ripped off or at least duped by her and her associates. Rather, she prefers to believe, or pretend to believe, that the problem is that some people are just plain nasty. Not so. It isn't us, the public, who are ripping people off. I suppose this is more evidence of her self-justifying. I received emails from her which were clearly mass produced but I resent the fact that I was targeted in this way by someone pretending to be my friend, offering me all sorts of things that she couldn't deliver. The fact that these characters also trick people out of money for silly bits of junk with Bethea's powers might also be a reason for so much resentment. Don't try to bat the ball of blame back to the consumer. Telling people to get in touch with your 'assistants' is all very well but those people who've done that (100s of them all over the internet) and not heard back or received a refund, may well say what's the point? She hasn't 'helped' anyone because --HELLO-- she doesn't have any special powers at all and to pretend she does is just proof of hubris or egomania.

Yes, I agree about Watchdog and as someone commented on this board, there is now a new set of rules, a law of some kind by which people cannot claim they are who they are not, or to have powers they do not really have, let alone sell trinkets which they claim have magic powers when that is not true. Fraudulent mediums is what they call them and Watchdog would certainly be keen to make a program about this topic because it is very much of the moment. I think that is the right way to go about it. Notice how Bethea Jenner is trying to justify herself now in all the complaint boards? all of a sudden she seems to be worried, despite hundreds of complaints about her in the past, which she ignored. Also, notice how Rochelle Gordon is not defending herself, only her partner Bethea is. I think this is because as Bethea Jenner lives in the UK, despite giving an address in the US, she would be covered by this new law while Rochelle Gordon is not, being an American, but still, Watchdog would investigate the whole thing and find out how the whole thing is organised, who they really work for, if they really are partners, etc. and even stop them both from tricking people in Europe as the law, I think, covers the EU.

Writing to Watchdog and asking them to make a programme on Bethea Jenner is an excellent idea. If she is used as an example, named and shamed, these kinds of 'psychic' internet scams may be at least curtailed. They have got away with it for too long. I might write to Watchdog myself just to back up any complaints already made. There is masses of evidence on the internet so even if people are scared of giving their real names, it wouldn't be difficult to highlight the problem and make a whole programme about it. In the age of 'Fair Trade' this and that, it's crazy that a great many people in the developing world (and in the US and Europe) are being bamboozled into buying pieces of trash with 'magical powers' and then after they've handed over details of their bank accounts, having money removed illegally.

Here here Scott! it is interesting how many more replies in her name are appearing everywhere, promising refunds, trying to clear her name etc; why is she so worried all of a sudden? perhaps the British or American authorities are onto her? I know someone who is going to report her to Watchdog.

there true to the people and good

Bethea Jenner sends junk email to thousands of innocent people with identical 'predictions' for their future, claiming to be their friend but secretly ripping them off and trying to get them to buy bits of trash from her. The so-called predictions are computer generated. The mails also tell people should buy Jenner's produce (which is cheap tat but she charges lot of money for). I sent off for a medallion when I was a bit vulnerable and not thinking straight. It never arrived and I have contacted the address and phone number but not heard back. I have checked her out online since and it turns out this often happens and the so-called personal astrological readings are exactly the same for every single one of the thousands of people she contacts every week worldwide. I wish I had checked out this site and others before I responded to her mail. I looked at the posts she has put on the internet herself, talking about her 'special powers' and all that silly garbage and I can't believe I fell for such an obvious scam. It's like those TV evangelists who cajole and threaten us to send out money. What a sap I was to fall for it.

Phoney tributes posted on the net by Bethea Jenner about her own qualities do not fool the public.

This is not only scam .this is more to ripoff cause both of the items ived never received, plus she was charging me for after my bank report me that this is a scam organization and they still have the guts to mail me and sign it as my friend while they ripping me off. so please people avoid any order from this web and do not i repeat do not give any credit card number.

I receive on a daily basis at least 2 letters from Maria Duvall, and now every other super natural worker plus now drs and numerology center, robert green, suzi yao, von trapp and so many more that I cannot even name them, all professing to be the real thing. Also the Rochelle and Bethea Jenner scam. even using the lord jesus and archangels to get to your inner emotions.

I was skeptical too, but I really love some of the products I've bought from Bethea. Admittedly I don't believe in the promises, but a lot of other people seem to believe in them. They work for those people, I guess. I was worried when I read about bank accounts being charged, but I've read her letters and they do state that for certain products you get one a month for x amount of months. That's why there are multiple charges. I always make sure I read her letters carefully. I really like my Archangel Michael medallion.

Thanks a lot for all these warnings. I'm about to get into the trouble myself. I would think it's a scam too since there is no return address, no clear instruction, their website looks very suspicious.