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This is a site dedicated to all the poor people and businesses that have fallen victim to Austpacific Industries Fiji, Director Graeme and Carolyn Hedge.They advertise and prey over the internet to be a credible and huge Sawmill in Fiji but the reality is they are a husband and wife team that live their life perfecting their scams promising timber that never gets delivered after payment and Sandalwood scams are their specialty.They have NO Sandalwood but claim to the world to have tons of it.They advertise in local papers in Australia for poor victims looking to buy Merbau decking cheap, take their money in advance and NEVER deliver.They advertise on Alibaba and all the Asian search engines looking for prey.They are now facing judgement day shortly as they are now being investigated by Police Inspector Tevita [protected]@yahoo.com of the Fijian Police and anyone that feels they have been scammed by these 2 professionals should contact Inspector Tevita with their information and complaint.I ordered Merbau decking from the Sydney local Trading post paper and gave my hard earned cash to pay for it but never received a zak, just a bunch of lies from Graeme Hedge. http://www.austpacificfijiscamhedge.blogspot.com/

Update by David
Sep 23, 2009 6:25 am EDT

It is bewildering that this Richard Hill character who is a builder writes a glowing report about a company so heavily under investigation for serious fraud and would openly try to convince more people that Austpacific are as honest as they come ..Im sorry Richard Hill but I believe you are one of Graeme hedge's associates and making a poor attempt to perpetuate the scam by trying to restore public confidence in this low life dishonest company known as Austpacific or east coast Timbers or whatever else they trade under in the trading post and all the B2B sites around the globe.Soon he will feel Fijian justice.

Update by David
Sep 23, 2009 7:23 am EDT

Beware all Austpacific and Graeme Hedge is selling on EBAY Australia! Already a scam complaint!

Update by David
Dec 05, 2009 5:41 am EST

Good News All, I have just been informed on good authority that Graeme Hedge and Carolyn Hedge of Austpacific Industries are soon to be arrested finally! They will be able to reflect on their theiving ways for many years to come behind Fijian Bars, thats our christmas present and theirs in one.

Update by David
Dec 14, 2009 11:12 pm EST

I suggest that anyone that has been scammed by Austpacific Industries immediately contact Inspector Tevita in Fiji police at : tevita374@yahoo.com, Tevitas mobile is +[protected] and email him your statement and invoices paid to Austpacific to allow Fijian police to put an end to this crook and his Australian cohort Michael whatever he calls himself!

Note ALL For a picture to all of Graeme Hedge who has stolen all of our money go to this link and you will see a man (thief) holding a big fish and and his home inside paid for by our money, this is Your culprit Graeme Hedge the Director of Austpacific Industries Fiji, he is too busy fishing to give us our decking! Rat theif!

http://www.iirp.com/offices_fiji_islands_development.html

Update by David
Dec 15, 2009 2:10 am EST

All Ebayers YES Mickmerbau is the same Michael from Austpacific Fiji BEWARE appears Austpacific had bad feedback on their ebay membership (surprise) so this Micheal character soon after registered his ID so they could keep selling/ripping into people.I think going to police individually and uniting is a great idea let us have feedback of who to see so we can lodge alltogether! We should unite police in Oz and Fiji about this character in Fiji also.

Update by David
Dec 16, 2009 12:41 am EST

Make no mistake about this, The real culprit here is Graeme Edward Hedge and his wife Carolyn hedge they are both cunning as they come and know exactly what they are doing, they are directors of Austpacific and are pulling all the strings, after all the money for these sales is going into Carolyn's personal account in NSW it seems.Why would any legal reputable company ask for its payment transaction belonging to the company Austpacific in fiji to be sent to an individual's bank account in another country? if not to launder the money from Fiji taxation authorities? This Michael character is Graeme's "gofa" and is just the go between for Graeme hedge.We need to not only stop Micheal but we need to get to the root of all evil, Graeme and his wife Carolyn. If we complain to Australian authorities enough they will join with Fiji police to bring them to a halt like Peter Foster! If they have taken 300, 000 dollars upfront deposit from a malaysian company and ripped them off what would stop them taking these amounts from us?

Graeme Hedges Mobile in Fiji is +[protected]/+[protected] .Tell him we will see him in jail the theif!

There is an abn I found for them ABN number [protected]

Graeme Hedges date of birth is 20th July 1961

Anyone has anything else please post asap, lets start to close in this clan of scammers.

Update by David
Dec 18, 2009 1:26 am EST

Natasha I agree with your plan and should be followed but I think it is more then just a dispute for consumer affairs now, this is multiple internet fraud and obtaining money by multiple deception .Graeme and Carolyn Hedge are also avoiding tax in Fiji by laundering income through bank deposits here in Australia.

I say get all information from everyone and give a detail complaint to Federal police Internet fraud section and also your local police station .Give them copies of your complete collection of orders from everyone and also send to Fijian tax department and Police in Fiji, Inspector Tevita asap.

Lodge within our police system and watch them all run to pay everyone back and stop them cold.
Think about this for every complaint on this site there are probably multiple claims that dont even know about this site to vent their frustrations, we must act for everyone and fast.

I am an old bugger now and have nothing more to take but I want to stop him doing to all you young folk.

Update by David
Dec 20, 2009 2:39 am EST

My son found this other place on Austpacific and this Micheal bloke in Carum. with more blokes like us that have been shafted does anyone have a photo of these ### ? we can all see?Home addreesses? If warehouse is full why cant we get timber at least ?soemthn smells rottin.

http://www.ozripoff.com/report-view/187-aa-sawmill-timber-scam-in-fiji-austpacific-industr

Update by David
Dec 20, 2009 2:55 am EST

found this in fiji yellow pages Austpacific Industries Namara Rd, Labasa Fiji Ph: 8811098

Update by David
Dec 26, 2009 7:58 am EST

Sent to Flora Green,
I think your a ###ing low life advertising on a site where all of us have lost thousands of dollars after being scammed by this theif.Do the right thing and remove your comments and leave the forum to be taken seriously as it should be instead of a maggot like you trying to captitalize on other peoples misfortune.
Fuk off this site.

Update by David
Jan 22, 2010 5:19 pm EST

Gooday all, Vcat is just a waiste of time and take months, this is not a dispute cobbers this is clear old fashoined fraud, my sons accountant has told me to go to ACCC as this hedge and cohorts are in serious breaches of company law and obtaining money by deception carrying heavy jail terms.

TRADE PRACTICES ACT 1974 - SECT 58
Accepting payment without intending or being able to supply as ordered
A corporation shall not, in trade or commerce, accept payment or other consideration for goods or services where, at the time of the acceptance:

(a) the corporation intends:

(i) not to supply the goods or services; or

(ii) to supply goods or services materially different from the goods or services in respect of which the payment or other consideration is accepted; or

(b) there are reasonable grounds, of which the corporation is aware or ought reasonably to be aware, for believing that the corporation will not be able to supply the goods or services within the period specified by the corporation or, if no period is specified, within a reasonable time.

The Feds would handle this for us as international interent fraud and because so many of us would act .Just get of your ### and go lodge a statement to local police or online to Fed Police in each state and copy each others complaints with your statement, include this link.
Then watch them scramble and beg to make good our money.Motivation to make amenz will be higher then ever before or least stop them good and well.

I agree lets unite and catch them once and for all and thats my 2 bob.

Update by David
Feb 15, 2010 3:17 am EST

Here is a photo I found on an american website of Graeme edward Hedge/ the theiving dog he is holding a fish which will soon become a noose of justice courtesy of Ozzy and Fiji police.

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Update by David
Feb 15, 2010 3:20 am EST

click photo for a good look at the c...t.

Update by David
Mar 11, 2010 6:59 am EST

Gooday Tnt,
Graeme Hedge is definately in Fiji cobba, I am also investigatin the c...t and me ears tell me his been recently caught doin the help at his SawMil in Labbassa the criminal lives there, caught slammin a female fijian worker and his theiven wife Carolyn has spat the dummy and left him and come to Australia and livin with her sister a Samantha or Susan or similarname .Purnelle? (some big carsales delear).phone number where she is supposed to be is 02.[protected], [protected].

Carolyn Hedge is where everyone has ploughed their money into her account CF Hedge NSW so she is good place to send the cops or start with gettn our money back .Her sister Sam/Sue is loaded and may cough up to get her sister out of jail if all of us start calling her at home asking for our money.

I will be callin soon as Im back to the farm. I suggest you tell everyone else the same.While this Carolyn ### was in Fiji we could nt touch her but now the police should go round to her sisters and get her sydney address details, Carolyn has two kids with her dont know names yet, she wont be hard to find.
PissedDavid

Update by David
Mar 11, 2010 7:14 am EST

Cunning ### also found Graeme Hedge the theiver of our money on skype voipcall under alias of "Benson Hedges" skype name : Benson8013 / also austpacific skype in sydney skype name "austpacific" probably the wife in hidn. regsister on skype and start lettin know how it feelsnmust be there way of communicatn between the theives sydney and Fiji and Michael Barbri.

Update by David
Apr 10, 2010 7:28 am EDT

Dr Pepper any time you need your teeth removed I will do it for free - I to am a dentist like you with fuk all to do.

Update by David
Jun 07, 2010 7:40 am EDT

DDay has arrived for Greame Hedge is sitting in FIJI Suva jail arrested on money laundering and fraud matters held with no bail. Im crackin open a stubbie cheers evryone ! Tha payback begins

Update by David
Jun 24, 2010 7:27 am EDT

Crack the case Barney he has been caught! Its aBout time hedge was arrested link Fiji papers http://www.fijisun.com.fj/main_page/view.asp?id=41683

An Australian businessman has been charged with obtaining money by false pretense and appeared at the High Court in Suva yesterday.

Graeme Hedge was finally released on a cash bail of $20, 000 by Justice Sithambarampillai Thurairaja after the court found that there had been no strong objection to bail by the prosecution.

Hedge was charged at the Magistrates Court and refused bail.

He is alleged to have falsely duped an Indian company, Dharampal Satyapal Limited, and defrauded them of F$400, 000 by falsely pretending that he could supply sandalwood to India.

Hedge allegedly committed the fraud through false advertisements on the internet.

While applying for bail, Hedge told the High Court he was not a flight risk, had no previous convictions, had considerable assets in Fiji and was willing to provide a suitable surety for the court.

Hedge also said he had millions of dollars invested in Fiji and his wife and two children were all living in Fiji.

However, while responding to the bail application, the State produced an affidavit of Police Detective Sergeant Satish Chand who said Hedge was also being investigated in another case by police. Sgt Chand said Hedge’s claims of millions of dollars of investment in Fiji had not been supported by documentary evidence and should not be considered by the court.

State prosecutorWaline George also urged the court to consider the fact that the applicant could re-offend while on bail as he had previously used the internet as his medium.

Ms George said the interest of the public and the community should be considered as the amount of money involved was substantial.

Justice Thurairaja, while ruling on the bail application, said while he was mindful of the serious nature of the charge, he was of the view that no strong opposition to bail has been submitted by the State.

Hedge has been released on cash bail of $20, 000 but on the condition that he produce three sureties worth $200, 000 each and that his Australian passport be surrendered to court.

Justice Thurairaja also ordered that Hedge not travel out of Labasa without prior permission of the court and not leave Fiji until his case has been concluded.

Hedge has also been strongly warned by the High Court not to involve himself in any more similar businesses over the internet while the case is being dispensed with.

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wheresthemoney
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Nov 02, 2015 3:52 am EST

Michael Barbiei can be found working for Windam Resorts in Melbourne, 199 William St, Melbourne VIC 3000, phone:[protected]. We know where you are.

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Mar 24, 2015 6:35 pm EDT

Current residence of Graeme Hedge, Carolyn Hedge & one of his daughter that stays with them: Apartment 1A, Naivakananumi Apartment, 58 Knollys Street, Flagstaff, Suva, Fiji. He has been living there for the last 15-18 months.

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JD Wings
Liverpool, AU
Dec 20, 2014 12:01 am EST
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It seems Graeme Hedge is up to his old tricks now he has conned Helipro NZ to lease him a Helicopter using whose money we dont know, I guess the money he stole from the sandalwood.
He now is apparently the CEO of Helipro FIJI and running a helicopter business with his cohorts Micheal Barbieri and Peter Scollary .
Read this link for updates on has latest on the new scam about to happen . http://www.bladeslapper.com/content/bb/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=9581&p=67786#p67786
Graeme Hedge has been advertising for pilots for his helicopter and has also just had his helicopter repossessed by Helipro New Zealand as he has no pilots to fly it and lost his flying permits for the chopper and lastly he has just been kicked out of his base where he was hiding the helicopter by the landowner for not paying his rent.Is this ringing any bells for all of you out there? Other news is he is now trying to con another company to give him another helicopter to use now he has lost his first one. Hedges new company website http://www.helipro.com.fj/page/page/8504645.htm he is CEO but claims he is director under the supervision of Micheal Barbieri... what a load of BS .
Update to Hedge' court case judgment for the court case re his fraud is due in next few weeks after many postponements by his crafty solicitor. Jail approaches Hedge nothing sweeter then perhaps him having a heart attack from his guilt. if anyone has any info on this Hegde email me jd0111900@yahoo.com

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victimised
Mareeba, AU
Mar 13, 2013 12:04 am EDT

If the victims of Austpacific Industries (Fiji) Limited are wondering what Graeme Edward Hedge and Carolyn Francis Hedge is now doing, watch this video and direct your comments to ODPP of Fiji Ms Madonna Fong who is his prosecutor on madonna.fong@odpp.gov.fj Detective Sergeant Satish Chand who is his arresting officer on chandsatish43@yahoo.com Mr. Geoff Smith on of Fiji One on gsmith@fijitv.com.fj who reported the article you are about to watch at http://youtu.be/msyfgQ63KP0
You should also lodge your proof of debts with the Official Receiver Mr. Villiame Katia on viliame.katia@govnet.gov.fj
All victims need to act or these criminals will escape justice.

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crosshunter
Sydney Metro Area, AU
Feb 21, 2013 7:28 am EST
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I secured an $8000+ judgement against hedge but Cant touch him in FIJI

http://www.fijitimes.com/story.aspx?id=219878

Looks like he has turned his attention to not for profit I.e. Govt funding is easier than scamming small players

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crosshunter
Sydney Metro Area, AU
Feb 21, 2013 7:24 am EST
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Hedge now into not for profit scam

http://www.fijitimes.com/story.aspx?id=219878

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Jan 10, 2013 9:59 pm EST

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Graeme Hedge and Carolyn Hedge live a luxurious and happy life in Savusavu now. They have several cars, a big house near the sea and are respected by the expat community in Savusavu. Nobody there knows their history. Graeme Hedge is now the Country Mangager for Helipro Fiji. http://www.fijitimes.com/story.aspx?id=219878 It seems con artists like him will always get away. This is a sad story.

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ghandchrcunts
Sylvania, AU
Aug 15, 2012 2:31 am EDT

Graeme Edward Hedge will be in Labasa Court on 3rd to 7th September 2012 for numerous counts of fraud but I am sure that Ms. Madonna Fong of the ODPP email madonna.fong@odpp.gov.fj phone +[protected] mobile +[protected] office and / or Detective Sergeant Satish Chand of Fiji Police on +[protected] email chandsatish43@yahoo.com would be more than happy to hear EVERY story about these thieves as they need to be locked up for as long as the law will allow. Please be assusred every complaint is required to make sure these thieves pay for their crimes against us all. Regards Tony Schepis victim of epic proportions Carolyn Francis Hedge is yet to be charged but is as responsible as Graeme and need to be jailed too.

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Ivebeenscammedbadly
Carnegie, AU
Nov 17, 2011 1:13 pm EST

Michael Barbieri is a professional con-artist and is “slippery and evasive” according to his ex-boss at AFG Financial! (Before he was sacked for his dishonesty while a mortgage broker). He may still be one elsewhere, but the last we heard, he was selling timeshare. Michael has a long history of failed businesses. He, with the help of Peter Scollary (the accountant) ripped off people with their ostrich business many years ago. He has been a bankrupt in the past and has learned all of the tricks, such as putting everything in the name of a trust, and in his wife’s name etc. He would have his home at 127 Overport Road, Frankston South well protected with a family trust or whatever. They ripped off people for $100, 000s for boats they imported from America, sold them and kept the money for themselves. However he did return $50, 000 to one couple as they went around to his home and applied pressure. Barbieri is or was the finance man for the Chuch "Catch the Fire Ministries." If you try and ring him at home on 9750 0250 or mobile [protected] he might decide to answer. He may hide behind his wife known as Maria and Mary.

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crosshunter
Sydney Metro Area, AU
Jul 22, 2010 8:19 pm EDT
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But wait theres more...

IN THE FIRST CLASS MAGISTRATES COURT AT LABASA
BEFORE: A.WICKRAMASOORYA ESQ. RESIDENT MAGISTRATE
DATE: 23/07/2010- FRIDAY - 9.00A.M.

NO. DEFENDANT C/NO. TIN NO. COMPLT. OFFENCE

53. Graeme Hedge 504/07 FNPF Being a director of chair in the Air Fiji Ltd which
committed an offence

59. Graeme Hedge 228/08 FNPF Being a director of chair in the Air Fiji Ltd which
committed an offence

Looks like the Fijian Police are doing their job and doing a good Job on Hedge. About the time of his first arrest, his brother, Geoff Hedge, who was formerly in the business with him left his job. Does anyone know the whereabouts of geoff Hedge - I know a lot of people who are interested in er ...talking with him as well. Could be a nice earn in it if the information is right.

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shrimponthebarbi
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Jul 14, 2010 1:52 pm EDT
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Who exactly is the Michael Barbieri being talked about here? American from Missouri perhaps? Curious...

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victimised
Mareeba, AU
Jul 05, 2010 2:41 am EDT

Sandalwood trader on remand
Shalveen Chand
Tuesday, June 29, 2010

AN Australian investor who is in remand at the Suva Prison has been told to provide sureties with assets totalling more than $0.5million and cash bail of $20, 000 by the High Court in Suva.

Graeme Hedge is alleged to have obtained close to $300, 000 from Dharampal Satyapal Limited of India in exchange for sandalwood, which allegedly was never delivered. The alleged transaction was made online.

Hedge was arrested on June 3 this year and remanded by the magistrates court after being considered a flight risk.

In his appeal to the High Court he said he was willing to surrender his Australian passport.

The court ordered Hedge not to travel out of Labasa.

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ghandchrcunts
Sylvania, AU
Jun 11, 2010 6:46 am EDT

This is a very sad story and everyone should pity these 2 idiots by the name of Carolyn Francis Hedge (mastermind criminal) and Graeme Edward Hedge as they has so many warnings through this website but thought they were smarter then everyone and were untouchable at the sawmill that was paid with other people's money. Well the long arm of the law in Fiji finally caught up with these thieves who thought they were above the law and that everyone owed them a living. The saddest part about this is they they have 2 daughters who will think this is the way to be and someone should explain to them that if they take a long hard look at their parents and where they are going to end up, they should try and become something very different to their parents, they should try and become decent human beings which their parents are very far from even being human the way they destroyed so many people's lives. They are the underbelly of Labasa and Fiji. [censor], who are they going to blame for this as they definitely are not to blame. According to these 2 idiots, everyone is to blame but themselves. They have criticised a brilliant human being in the form of the retired President of Fiji Ratu Josefa Iloilovatu and these fools aren't even worthy of cleaning His Excellency's toilets. They blamed the coup in 2006 and their partners who paid for EVERYTHING to help them and got NOTHING IN RETURN. Graeme, you are in the right place and all your victims will attend your hearing to make sure you stay there for at least 15 years and please do not despair as your crooked stupid wife will also be in jail soon as she is more guilty than you. Damn you to hell [censor]!

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ghandchrcunts
Sylvania, AU
Jun 11, 2010 2:39 am EDT

For all the people Graeme and Carolyn have ripped off, maybe you would like to know, Graeme is in Jail where he belongs, the only sad thing about this story is that Carolyn is living it up at a resort ion Fiji while Graeme is playing hide the salami with some very big Fijian men who are teaching him the intricacies of prison / man on man love. He is not doing well in jail and is asking for special treatment by asking for special meals for him, preferring home detention and requesting mosquito nets and better bedding. These requests have been denied because everyone now knows by way of this site, what he has done to all of us, and justice will be fully served when Carolyn is also in jail being educated about woman prison love and both of them are sentenced to no less than 15 years for their reign of financial terror they subjected all of us to. Both Carolyn and Graeme are the most racists [censor] ever, and they have openly admitted they hate black people but in a jail situation I bet that the blacks will love them dearly. ROT IN HELL YOU [censor] AND I HOPE YOU FEEL A FRACTION OF WHAT YOU DID TO EVERYONE!

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also anothe victum
Sydney, AU
Apr 13, 2010 5:13 am EDT

dr pepper is one of them everyone just ignore him and dont respond at the end of the day we have put thousands into hedges account and we got jack ### il stop when i get my money or my timber ohh hang on no money hmmmm... no timber hmmmm... its been over a year hmmmm maybe one day all these vitims on this forum will receive there money back that they worked hard for we shouldnt be writing bad things about poor old micheal and austpacific dr pepper i think i speak on bahalf of everyone here your not welcome on this forum if you need a dentist ive got bugger all to do aswell :)

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brucepam
flinders, AU
Apr 11, 2010 1:07 am EDT
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salt and pepper don't you go back on your word as i will not be getting 100 emails a week.

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Dr. Pepper
Gotham city, AU
Apr 10, 2010 7:24 am EDT

just for curiousity's sake i will hang around for "another victim's" response.
but i will no longer make any comments.
Goodbye.

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Dr. Pepper
Gotham city, AU
Apr 10, 2010 7:21 am EDT

That is what i have been trying to say this entire time!
Thank you Tim and Natasha for finally coming around.

i will now leave this forum as my job is done. Any "witty" remarks made about me i will not see, so don't bother.

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also anothe victum
Sydney, AU
Apr 10, 2010 12:44 am EDT

Hi all,

Just want to restate that our story is true. If you look at page 2 when we created our second account we did let everyone know we were tim and natasha. As this website is not that user friendly. We went to write a comment and hit submit to find that it was asking us to register again and it did not accept our email so we created the second login but we did let everyone know.

Again to re-state our story we paid for our timber on the 6th of April 2008 and have not received anything yet. Austpacific, if not running a scam are treating us very unfairly. No company is allowed to have a no refund policy according to the Australian legislation (Trade Practices Act). And since their ABN is an Australian one they must obey these laws. There is also a section in Trade Practices Act that states that if you do not attempt to provide the goods it is a breach to accept any moneys or trade.

So again lets ignore Dr Pepper and keep this website for what it was started for 'to make other consumers aware of the unfair treatment we have all received from Austpacific and in particular their agent down here in Australia, Michael B'. So if you see any adds in the Australian Trading Post or any Carrum Downs warehouses that sell timber be very aware that this is not the bunch of crooks that have taken all of our money and never delivered anything nor provided us a refund. They go under the name Austpacific Timbers or Austpacific Group.

Do not waste your time going to the ACCC we filed an application on behalf of us and other victims to find a lady call and say "you know how many pages are in this folder". Once I told her taht we also lodged an application with VCAT she said "oh there is nothing I can do for you then, once you lodge with VCAT". But even if we didn't lodge anything with VCAT, the ACCC is there to protect the consumers but not to get your money back, only to make other consumers aware.

Local police - we went down to our local station - waited for an hour to get a constable that said ''I'm finishing at 2 I haven't got time for this and this sounds like a is a civil matter and not a criminal matter - they too can not be bothered, which is sad. But the advice given above by Í hate scammers even more'"about going to teh fraud squad might be a good idea. We will try this too, the ABN we have for the company is [protected].

So people best option apply through VCAT - there is a slight delay at the moment but it will eventually happen. Or the Fraud Squad as mentioned above by I hate scammers even more. And warn as many people as possible about the misconduct of Austpacific Group!

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Dr. Pepper
Gotham city, AU
Apr 09, 2010 9:45 pm EDT

I agree with "i_hate_scammers_even_more"

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I_hate_scammers_even_more
Melbourne, AU
Apr 09, 2010 10:07 am EDT

""victimised"" Dont waste your time answering Dr knowwhatsgoingon, you and the other victims on this forum are the only ones who really know the truth. The forum will only get larger unfortunatly and I think it is very doubtful that anyone will get any timber or any money back. The best outcome is to see everyone involved with this scam doing a bit of time inside and really find out how it feels to be wasting their time on this planet. GO TO THE POLICE and report a crime and have them investigated and charged, tell them its their job to do this and also call the fraud squad they are smarter than your local constable. Yes they have obtained property by deception, there must be at least 20 counts on this forum alone. GO!

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Dr. Pepper
Gotham city, AU
Apr 09, 2010 10:06 am EDT

"another victim" please reply soon before someone else says something that is needlessly timewasting and has already been discussed.
everyone please restrain yourselves so he can send his reply without such a ridiculous gap between question and answer.

this is a copy and paste of my above question, please let "another victim" answer

I am curious, can someone who filed a police report tell me what the reponse from the police was?
have they confirmed it is a scam?
or have they said that it isn't a scam?

if they have said the latter then the man you claim is so guilty he couldn't go to the police obviously has gone and isn't guilty.

I believe this can finally resolve the issue. any response other than those two choices (eg, heresay, YOU'RE ONE OF THEM! and "piss off") will just result in a longer annoying conversation with me.
(as you can see from above i am willing to carry out this threat.)

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Dr. Pepper
Gotham city, AU
Apr 09, 2010 9:55 am EDT

victimised, if you could read properly you could see that i have not contradicted myself, You fall under my definition of illiterate.
Thankyou for wasting space and everybody's time by copy and pasting wikipedia.

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victimised
Mareeba, AU
Apr 09, 2010 8:28 am EDT

So Dr. Pepper, one minute you tell us there is no product in the warehouse now it is full. As for your question in respect to the definition of the term "Force Majeure" which I know Graeme uses just because he has no money to buy logs or is so incompetent that he cannot control his employees and therefore knowing how incompetent he is and he is not able to produce efficiently he continues to take orders and accept deposits and refuses to deliver. If the warehouse is so full, why are there so many dissatisfied customers who have lost tens of thousands of dollars? You call me a dumb ### but in reality your arguments cannot hold any creditability because if they were producing why are there so many people who have not been supplied? Force majeure (French for "superior force"), also known as cas fortuit (French) or casus fortuitus (Latin)[1], is a common clause in contracts which essentially frees both parties from liability or obligation when an extraordinary event or circumstance beyond the control of the parties, such as a war, strike, riot, crime, or an event described by the legal term "act of God" (e.g., flooding, earthquake, volcanic eruption), prevents one or both parties from fulfilling their obligations under the contract. However, force majeure is not intended to excuse negligence or other malfeasance of a party, as where non-performance is caused by the usual and natural consequences of external forces (e.g., predicted rain stops an outdoor event), or where the intervening circumstances are specifically contemplated.

Purpose
Time-critical and other sensitive contracts may be drafted to limit the shield of this clause where a party does not take reasonable steps (or specific precautions) to prevent or limit the effects of the outside interference, either when they become likely or when they actually occur. A force majeure may work to excuse all or part of the obligations of one or both parties. For example, a strike might prevent timely delivery of goods, but not timely payment for the portion delivered. Similarly, a widespread power outage would not be a force majeure excuse if the contract requires the provision of backup power or other contingency plans for continuity.

A force majeure may also be the overpowering force itself, which prevents the fulfillment of a contract. In that instance, it is actually the Impossibility or Impracticability defenses.

In the military, force majeure has a slightly different meaning. It refers to an event, either external or internal, that happens to a vessel or aircraft that allows it to enter normally restricted areas without penalty. An example would be the U.S. Navy aircraft that landed at a Chinese military airbase after a collision with a Chinese fighter in April 2001. Under the principle of force majeure, the aircraft must be allowed to land without interference.

Importance
The importance of the force majeure clause in a contract, particularly one of any length in time, cannot be overstated as it relieves a party from an obligation under the contract (or suspends that obligation). What is permitted to be a force majeure event or circumstance can be the source of much controversy in the negotiation of a contract and a party should generally resist any attempt by the other party to include something that should, fundamentally, be at the risk of that other party. For example, in a coal-supply agreement, the mining company may seek to have "geological risk" included as a force majeure event; however, the mining company should be doing extensive exploration and analysis of its geological reserves and should not even be negotiating a coal-supply agreement if it cannot take the risk that there may be a geological limit to its coal supply from time to time. The outcome of that negotiation, of course, depends on the relative bargaining power of the parties and there will be cases where force majeure clauses can be used by a party effectively to escape liability for bad performance.

In Hackney Borough Council v. Dore (1922) 1 KB 431 it was held that "The expression means some physical or material restraint and does not include a reasonable fear or apprehension of such a restraint".

The expression bears more extensive meaning than "act of God" or vis major. As to delay due to breakdown of machinery, it comes within the words "force majeure", which certainly cover accidents to machinery. The term cannot, however, be extended to cover bad weather, football matches, or a funeral. Matsoukis v. Priestman & Co (1915) 1 KB 681.

The expression is undoubtedly a term of wider import than vis major. Judges have agreed that strikes, breakdown of machinery, which though normally not included in vis major, are included in force majeure.

In re Dharnrajmal Gobindram v. Shamji Kalidas [All India Reporter 1961 Supreme Court (of India) 1285] it was held that "An analysis of ruling on the subject shows that reference to the expression is made where the intention is to save the defaulting party from the consequences of anything over which he had no control".

Under international law it refers to an irresistible force or unforeseen event beyond the control of a State making it materially impossible to fulfill an international obligation. Force majeure precludes an international act from being wrongful where it otherwise would have been.

In December 2008, Donald Trump claimed that a recession could be a force majeure, though proving it in court would be difficult at best.[2] Others, such as Peter Schiff and Jim Rogers predicted the financial events precipitated in 2007.

Elements
The understanding of force majeure in French law is similar to that of international law and vis major as defined above. For a defendant to invoke force majeure in French law, the event proposed as force majeure must pass three tests:

Externality
The defendant must have nothing to do with the event's happening.
Unpredictability
If the event could be foreseen, the defendant is obligated to have prepared for it.[3] Being unprepared for a foreseeable event leaves the defendant culpable. This standard is very strictly applied:
CE 9 April 1962, "Chais d’Armagnac": The Conseil d'Etat adjudged that, since a flood had occurred 69 years before that which caused the damage at issue, the latter flood was predictable.
Administrative tribunal of Grenoble, 19 June 1974, "Dame Bosvy": An avalanche was judged to be predictable since it had an antecedent of half a century past.
Irresistibility
The consequences of the event must have been unpreventable.
Other events that are candidates for force majeure in French law are hurricanes and earthquakes. Force majeure is a cause of relief from responsibility that is applicable throughout French law.

On the other hand, the German understanding goes under the German translation of vis major (höhere Gewalt) but seems conceptually synonymous with the common law interpretation of force majeure, comprehending both natural disasters and events such as strikes, civil unrest, and war. However, even in the event of force majeure, liability persists in the face of default by a debtor (Schuldnerverzug, cf. BGB §287 (in German)) or deprivation of property (Sachentziehung, cf. BGB §848 (in German)).

Force Majeure in areas prone to natural disaster requires a definition of the magnitude of the event for which Force Majeure could be considered as such in a contract. As an example in a highly seismic area a technical definition of the amplitude of motion at the site could be established on the contract base for example on probability of occurrence studies. This parameter or parameters can later be monitored at the construction site (with a commonly agreed procedure). An earthquake could be a small shaking or damaging event. The occurrence of an earthquake does not imply the occurrence of damage or disruption. For small and moderate events it is reasonable to establish requirements for the contract processes; for large events it is not always feasible or economical to do so. Concepts such as 'damaging earthquake' in force majeure clauses does not help to clarify disruption, especially in areas were there are no other reference structures or most structures are not seismically safe. Ref (Spanish) Force Majeure Construction and Earthquakes.

Sample force majeure clause
The following is an example of how force majeure might be described in a specific contract.

Clause 18. Force Majeure
A party is not liable for failure to perform the party's obligations if such failure is as a result of Acts of God (including fire, flood, earthquake, storm, hurricane or other natural disaster), war, invasion, act of foreign enemies, hostilities (regardless of whether war is declared), civil war, rebellion, revolution, insurrection, military or usurped power or confiscation, terrorist activities, nationalisation, government sanction, blockage, embargo, labor dispute, strike, lockout or interruption or failure of electricity or telephone service. No party is entitled to terminate this Agreement under Clause 19 (Termination) in such circumstances.
If a party asserts Force Majeure as an excuse for failure to perform the party's obligation, then the nonperforming party must prove that the party took reasonable steps to minimize delay or damages caused by foreseeable events, that the party substantially fulfilled all non-excused obligations, and that the other party was timely notified of the likelihood or actual occurrence of an event described in Clause 18 (Force Majeure). As Austpacific does not have these of constant constant disruptions Force Majeure cannot be applied, criminal activity and stupidity do not constitute or cover him under Force Majeure.

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Dr. Pepper
Gotham city, AU
Apr 09, 2010 8:15 am EDT

another quick point "victimised"
If they are not producing then why is there a warehouse full of (produced) timber?, as many of the people on this forum have verified
And why have some people recieved their timber? which forgive me if i'm wrong is a logistical impossibility without produce.

and finally
How can somebody who has quit their job recieve 25%? and how can harrassing said persons family help? (the main reason i am still here)

I am waiting for "another victim's" reply,
in the mean time please feel free to excrement all over this forum, as i will only carry out my above threat to be as annoying as possible unless spoken to by a literate adult.

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Dr. Pepper
Gotham city, AU
Apr 09, 2010 7:20 am EDT

Victimised i really have to say that you are a [censored]. so far i have been Greame, a relative, then michael, now i'm peter?
i have said many times that yelling WITCH isn't going to make me go away,
and Who the F*** said i was blaming the victims.
I don't care what the ramifications are on this forum of me calling you an ignorant ### but i'm going to do it anyway.
Victimised i suggest you get an education and look up the meaning of force majeure.
Tell me What is this great authourity you have gotten your information from?

"another victim" i thank you for remaining mature and i anxiously await your reply

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victimised
Mareeba, AU
Apr 09, 2010 6:17 am EDT

No refund policy? What are you talking about? the only policy Austpacific has is "Money upfront and no supply of product" policy. What are you talking about? No Return Policy! I have never heard so much crap in all my life! this just about conforms to me that you are involved in this crooked business! Is your real name Peter Scollary? What a disgraceful attempt to apportion blame to the victims! I think you will find Dr. Pepper or Peter Scollary or a relative of the Barbieri family or whoever the hell you really are, if you are so sympathetic to these rotten criminals and you are supposed to be some sort of well healed Dentist, what about showing your faith in these crooks? Pay everyone everything they have been scammed of and then go to however in the organisation you think you will have success to be reimbursed by and then let's see your comments then. You have not lost so therefore you have no right to make a comment. and for the record I have it on great authority that Michael Barbieri and Peter Scollary are partners with Graeme and Carolyn Hedge who share the money they scam from people at the rate of Graeme and Carolyn 50% and Peter Scollry 25% and Michael Barbieri 25% and as they have no production costs because they are not producing...not a bad scan ay? they have learnt well from Nigeria.

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----another victim----
Melbourne, AU
Apr 09, 2010 2:19 am EDT

I will let you know

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Dr. Pepper
Gotham city, AU
Apr 09, 2010 2:07 am EDT

5 above

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----another victim----
Melbourne, AU
Apr 09, 2010 2:06 am EDT

dr pepper what is yor question i will answer

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Dr. Pepper
Gotham city, AU
Apr 09, 2010 2:02 am EDT

i know that he no longer works there the same way i found out that TNT/Tim and natasha's favourite soccer team is melboure victory, that was the point of me putting up their personal information for shock value.

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Dr. Pepper
Gotham city, AU
Apr 09, 2010 2:01 am EDT

"another victim" i congratulate you on your terrific and non childish comeback to my proctologist insult in which you reworded the implication behind what i said. Bravo.

i have already statred my reasons for defending michael, either answer the simple question or shutup.

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----another victim----
Melbourne, AU
Apr 09, 2010 1:57 am EDT

dr.pepper why did you put THE MAN NO LONGER WORKS THERE.How do you know that

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Dr. Pepper
Gotham city, AU
Apr 09, 2010 1:56 am EDT

I am curious, can someone who filed a police report tell me what the reponse from the police was?
have they confirmed it is a scam?
or have they said that it isn't a scam?

if they have said the latter then the man you claim is so guilty he couldn't go to the police obviously has gone and isn't guilty.

I believe this can finally resolve the issue. any response other than those two choices (eg, heresay, YOU'RE ONE OF THEM! and "piss off") will just result in a longer annoying conversation with me.

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----another victim----
Melbourne, AU
Apr 09, 2010 1:53 am EDT

Dr.Pepper I think you should make appointment with a proctologist I can smell from your mouth.I told your mate Michael when I get him he will pay.Would you like to give your money like that, Michael will need you as a dentist and you can find him a proctologist .

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Don't trust Austpacific
, AU
Apr 09, 2010 1:51 am EDT

So you just just troll the internet trying to find forums, then create a new account, and post information to support an unpopular argument?

May I ask then how you were aware of this? How you have discovered so much information regarding Michael and his state of affairs?

I understand your researched everything... BRAVO! for what reason?

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Dr. Pepper
Gotham city, AU
Apr 09, 2010 1:44 am EDT

no michael is not my brother, an obvious hint ios the fact that my last name is Pepper.
and no i do not live in victoria that is why you won't find my name on the victorian list.
Did you really believe that i lived in "Gotham city, Victoria" as my profile suggests?
i do not put information on the internet that would allow people to find out any of my personal details, not even the state in which i live as i have clearly demonstated how easily one can find information on people over the internet.

Guilty or not if the man has quit then he cannot give you back your money and if he was still there he is under no obligation to give you a refund.

the timber in the warehouse would have been display timber or other peoples orders that have been waiting longer than you.

If you choose to ignore everything i say then at least answer this,
If he was guilty and was scamming people then WHY WOULD HE NEARLY GO BANKRUPT?

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I_hate_scammers_even_more
Melbourne, AU
Apr 09, 2010 1:32 am EDT

I will go against what I have been preaching and say this to you DrPepper. When I got my money back Michael had a warehouse full of timber(did he go and salvage a grounded ship) mine included and would not pass it on to anybody. He was still scamming others through his ebay store. He made a phone call and I over heard him say he had the timber except for a couple of peices and was told to hand it over, I didnt care I wanted my money back. After months of ships grounding, cyclones, employee problems, diarrhea, earthquakes and any other ### they could think of and not to mention the time and energy I spent chasing and listening to this ###. OK maybe Michael has quit, only because he has been caught out maybe he has found new employment as a proctologist, yours.

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Don't trust Austpacific
, AU
Apr 09, 2010 1:30 am EDT

Thank you again Dr. Pepper.

I'm glad you do not find the situation funny.

However I'm disappointed that you believe that Michael is completely innocent. As such, I wonder if "your brother" is Michael? If he is I suggest he talk to the police, or at the very least attain some legal advice.

Also, I checked the Dental Practice Board of Victoria, and they don't seem to have any records of a Dr John Pepper.

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Dr. Pepper
Gotham city, AU
Apr 09, 2010 1:08 am EDT

I_hate_scammers_even_more, "leaning" on him is exactly the thing i am trying to discourage.

read closely. THE MAN NO LONGER WORKS THERE.
and for the people who got a refund from him i say good on him, you know why? Because the company has a no refund policy.
the fact that he gave you a refund only helps his case.