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Petshack Chihuahua's Nancy White review: Sells Sick Dogs 225

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Dishonest Breeder
DO NOT BUY A DOG FROM THIS BREEDER. SHE IS DISHONEST AND DOES NOT STAND BEHIND HER PUPPIES HEALTH. HER DOGS AND PUPPIES LIVE IN HER SHOP WHICH IS FILTHY . SHE CLAIMS SHE IS CAGE FREE AND THEIR ARE CAGES EVERYWHERE. SHE ALSO HAS OVER 100 DOGS AND BREEDS THEM BACK TO BACK HEATS. SHE ALSO HAS OVER 75 BIRDS SOME ARE FREE AND FLY AROUND.SOME PUPPIES ARE IN BIRD CAGES. SHE ALSO HAS A GOAT! WHEN YOU RECIEVE YOUR PUPPY IT WILL BE A "KENNEL DOG", NOT SOCIALIZED. WE GOT A PUPPY FROM HER AND WHEN I FIRST GOT IT FROM HER FRIEND WHO I PAID TO DELIVER BECAUSE I DO NOT FEEL LITTLE PUPPIES SHOULD FLY.I KNEW THERE WAS A PROBLEM NUEROLOGICALLY! sHE CAN NOT LOOK AT YOU WITHOUT ONE EYE THAT FLOATS TO THE ROGHT AND BLINKS TO COMPENSATE! SHE PUTS ANY NAME ON THE CKC PAPERS AND HER HEALTH GUARANTEE IS FROM HER VET FRIEND WHICH IS WORTH NOTHING! BUYERS BEWARE!

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Update by voicefortheanimals
Dec 18, 2010 4:00 pm EST

I do not want to know who you are because the authorities and my attorney already do and that is all that matters!I could care less ! And I am sorry that you did not like what was written about Pet shack Chihuahua's. Awe Did it hurt your feelings?
Just an FYI I do NOT dress like Lucy Everyday LOL! And I DO NOT have red hair! If you really knew me as you say You would know that LMAO! I do not think dressing like her where I work would go over well in the courthouse LOL. I see that you are jealous of the life I lead and I am flattered. You must have a lot of spare time to be able to take time out of busy day to write about me. I did not under any circumstances try to hide the fact it was "ME" in the post DUH! And for your FYI~~~ LIL BELLA LUCY~~ is not the dog in question or the dog I purchased from Nancy! ROTFLMAO! And when in court you always want O make sure all the FACTS are correct! You would do lousy in a court case! This is an open investigation and I an glad that you decided to become a part of it. Law Enforcement has a special way to know the HTLM addresses and who they belong to~~ Remember that when posting anywhere on the Internet! Mr. Computer Savvy!. I did not care but the attorney did so Thank you.It just helps my harassment case even more when another person is added! They do already know who you are, That is what was important! They are who told me about this post! Have a Happy Holidays!I will advise you to remove the photo immediately as you know that is my intellectual property and you can get in a lot of trouble posting my photo without permission! My attorney will file charges if not removed! (not that I care I Love the publicity!)Thank you Happy Holidays!
Oh and I could always post her filthy dog room areas here if you like also so Do not threaten me. IF you knew the law You would know that "When a person does business with someone whether it is a positive experience or negative experience I am allowed to share that with the world on a public forum if I choose! I bought a dog from her with papers LOL and Health Guarantee homemade by her which by the way a secret "It is illegal to sell any dogs to State of Florida without a breeders license! Do you know that? It is a huge fine too!
Thai was basically quiet for the moment but unfortunately you stated it all over again so if you really care about Nancy You will end your rude comments to me or I will continue to move forward! And I have an army of legal people on my side! No Trolls Here!
AND WHEN YOU SEARCH PETSHACK CHIHUHAHUA'S OR NANCY WHITE MR. COMPUTER SAVY, IT GIVES YOU HER BUSINESS AND TELEPHONE NUMBER DUH! IT AUTOMATICALLY LIST HER HER INFORMATION. I MEAN IT IS HER BUSINESS RIGHT! DUH! SHOULD I SAY DUMMY! so no laws broken once again! :) And furthermore I did BUSINESSS with her from that address and telephone number so it is legal! My telephone is a State Phone! Go ahead call it ! It was already used to attack me and it is part of my case! Have a great Day and a Happy Holiday!

Update by voicefortheanimals
Dec 18, 2010 4:12 pm EST

Excuse me FYI The dog in MY PHOTO above (posted without permission) is not the dog that I got from Nancy! Petshack Chihuahua's!
And This post was written over a month ago ~~I let you go a long time ago and I will restart the posting again if you do not "STOP HARASSING ME! "
And an FYI my dog has NEVER been in any Chihuahua race! LMAO I am the emcee always ask around LOL
And My dog is always in my arms as co Emcee never in any fashion show ROTFLMAO! Get your facts straight! You will need to for court! and you say you did not breed my dog? Well did you forget who you listed as parents to her? HMMMM? Wow You just made yourself look like a dummy! You see when you lie you need to keep track of the lies to keep them straight LOL
I guess you will not Stop ! I wanted to not take this to court I actually felt bad for you but it will be the only way to stop you!
Be careful on your new pages on Facebook! They are still beiong monitored by the authoritues and They will shut them down as well! Leave it alone and Go tend to your Dogs!
Happy Holidays!
Lista AS Lucy For LIFE! xxxxoooo

Update by voicefortheanimals
Dec 18, 2010 6:46 pm EST

Oh no ~~~~~Here is a picture of my precious baby Lil Lucy in a what "BIRDCAGE And I am Crazy! I told you I am on no medication and I do NO DRUGS I think not!
I told you I do everything factual and Legal! I said it because I have PROOF! Pictures do not Lie!
I am not working right now :( But to clear it up I am a volunteer at what I do! LMAO so I do not get fired! Also I work at home not anybody else's computer! LOL And I Did not Hack any computer so you need to find out who did! NOT ME! I do not even know how nor would I want to learn That is against the Law I told you I do not break the law! I do not want anything on your computer! I do not need that to have a case! Also they ALL know about this whole story. My attorney's office is on the next floor and we talk about it daily! LOL. Happy Holidays Nancy from my home to yours!

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Update by voicefortheanimals
Dec 18, 2010 6:50 pm EST

And Please Be aware That is is not like Facebook my friend When you post on here and when your nameis searched it will show many others what you are saying about your shop and ALL our posts!
so Please protect yourself and Quit the lies and stalking!
STOP HARASSING ME! Leave it Alone! or I will get more in detail for the viewers to see!
STOP!Grow UP!

Update by voicefortheanimals
Dec 18, 2010 7:10 pm EST

Nancy I will copy my Health Guarantee for the viewers to see that wa sdelivered by you! and My attorney has a album from Facebook stating $325.00 for puppies from Billie with papers! LOL Remember my friend was selling puppies and was mad you posted to MY Page so inexpensive and with paers! Now I know why ! SICK PUPPY!? Hmm remember now! Yes with the help of Facebook Security~We were able to print All that ! and yes the Health guarantee signed by you listing your verternarian(friend) is from you and carbonless and worthless because was made from your computer!So as I said ~Illegal sale of a puppy to Florida! BIG Fine and could cost you your ckc future? LOL. You have other puppies that you sold to unhappy customers and they have the same paper I got ! How strange? Also I have CKC papers ! Wooo hOOOO
Nancy You will never just tell the truth and admit you were wrong! You sell puppies on the internet!and on a PUBLIC Social Network! You live where you breed so it makes your personal life part of your business too. You have NO LICENSE to Breed or Board animals.You have a Business License only~ The Carolina's does not require you to have a license to breed animals. If they did you would be more careful!. This is probably why you breed the way that you do and the conditions are this way!.But there is protection for the animals!
You can not run a business on an internet social network especially Facebook. It is illegal also~~so with that said they do not protect business's that are ran on there! Facebook is not a website for Business Networking! It is a Personal Website for Social Networking! Got It! So if you do not want it out there then do not put on your Public Page! Duh! Oh well enough you are using my energy!
So when are we going to court?
You would make it so much easier for me!
Happy Holidays!

Update by voicefortheanimals
Dec 18, 2010 7:22 pm EST

Here is a copy from my telephone Nancy I will post a clear copy on here later! Just in case you forgot what you sent with her!
This is page one which by the way is not a recognized health certificate accetable in the State of Florida.

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Update by voicefortheanimals
Dec 18, 2010 7:24 pm EST

Here is page two!

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Update by voicefortheanimals
Dec 18, 2010 7:27 pm EST

Thi sisthe page one and that other is your 72 hour Guarantee!
Are you sure you want me to post the Ckc papers Nancy? Sure! That could really hurt your business!

Please note even though they are blurry you can see her telephones numbers on page One!

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Update by voicefortheanimals
Dec 18, 2010 8:02 pm EST

Zachary I agree with you I do not know you! you are so correct my friend! I have been fighting with this lady for a long time over the sale of a sick dog! and yes it is all about the money. She has even bred the same mom twice in one year for both of her heats! NO Break! Poor Baby! Thank you for your support!

Update by voicefortheanimals
Dec 18, 2010 8:13 pm EST

And Zachary She lives where she sells the dogs out of! In the Carolina's they do not need a breeder's license so they get away with this behavior. But this is an open investigation and I have alot of different agencies assisting me. I will not give up. I am the voice for the animals so they may be heard.I have pictures with over 20 puppies all under 8 weeks old at her shop! This is so unfair to the puppies!

Update by voicefortheanimals
Dec 27, 2010 5:37 pm EST

Wow what a difference a few days make. Nancy NO ONE has been to your shop to take a look around? Really! I think so! and you know so!Yes I do know that for sure! I will NOT expose the investagator, but did they did make a visit?! and to let you know you have had SEVERAL complaints against you in the past to several agencies. But because of no breeder license required their hands are tied! Any complaints can be made Public record! It was very easy to mention your name to any of them and they have heard your name "Petshack Chihuhaua's" before!. I WILL NOT expose the investigation on here BUT I will say to all reading. The investigation is ongoing! Why wouldn't you want to prove your innocense? Because you know you will be out of business sellings dogs!
Listen Nancy I can expose any and all the pictures I have on here that I choose to. THIS IS A PUBLIC FORUM! or did you not realize this? DUH! and if ANYONE searches for your NASTY petshop it will give them your name as owner, your address and telephone number HELLO! Duh! when you run a Business becomes public information to be looking to purchase from you! Wow How else can they find you? or Is it not true that most of your sales of puppies are done through FACEBOOK! which by the way is a NO NO! Did you not have several pages closed down on Facebook! Imagine that.And FYI at the time "your pictures on YOUR web page" were offered to anyone that went to your page (and further more they were While we were talking )before and shortly after purchase of a sick dog. And Some were emailed to me by one of your good fellow breeders too! Also She sent me emails (numerous) of information about your dogs and your filthy place with photos!. She has been there several times and knows you personally for years, and was willing to expose all your information to anyone!And Is it not true~ you have sold several dogs that were ill to past customers they by the way have been more than willing to give a deposition against your shop to the authorities. They just wish to remain private until necessary in the courtroom!
Yes you have a BUSINESS license ONLY that is all ! That is what is required in your state only! SAD but TRUE! They do not even require a breeder to have a license in your state that is why you do the breeding ethics you do.
And as far as ANY dog "Put to sleep!"Really do not make me laugh! I know of NONE because of anything to do with me! Prove it on here publicly I give you permission! Please! Bet you can't!They went to other homes and NOT your's and you were angry! Oh well!Some were offered with money! Is that why you wanted them? Your friend said you rescued a Rotti and bred her? Hmmm! That is even posted on a public thread by someone other than me! And another rumor I heard and read is "You have a friend at the local shelter who offers dogs to you ? unspayed and unneutered? These are just a few RUMORS your friend told me!In Florida we do things differnet we definitely will not place a dog until they are~~~ to avoid puppy mill breeders like you continuing to make puppy makers out of them!
The dog that was to come to me by local rescue ( and Did) is a Mix breed ! LOL~~ Gummie is her name ~~45 lbs Do you know of a Chihuahua 45 lbs? LMAO! Thank you ~~~NOT A CHIHUAHUA LMAO! Below I will show a pic of her and she is with me still! LOL~~ so again I say to you "Fire your Spies" They do not have correct information as usual. See my information comes from LEGAL authorities! I do not do my own investigations. This is why I have an attorney and other authorities to do it.Anyone in my town knows I can afford to hire someone to fight for the animals! I have tried to let this rest and allow you to correct your awful shop and you continue to lie to others and accept the fact that you need to Clean up! I accepted the fact that I saved my baby from your nasty place and yes she has problems because of her breeding! BUT it does not affect her LOVE to me daily. She was so wonderful through all my cancer treatments and I think she knows she was rescued!I have photos of over 20 puppies from different Mothers all in one pen! Sick! This is why dogs raised in this environment can be aggressive during feeding time. They had to learn early to fight for food with 19 plus others! :(
And YES my husband dropped a puppy 2 years ago Thanksgiving morning and she died instantly! She was cremated and is on the top of my fireplace forever. I am still feeling pain of her loss daily. But what is amazing is that you call yourself a loving breeder and rescue person then why would you be glad that any puppy lost his life! It is not a secret to anyone. If you lived here you would know it was not a secret!Because you DO NOT know me personally nor will you EVER you can not say a word. I live in a Gorgeous two story home (ask around to my LOCAL friends they will tell you) My animals are treated as my children! Everyone says if they died they would love to come back as my pet! :0. My job is a full time job that is VOLUNTEER position not payed and I Love it! I also volunteer part time at a local shelter. Can you say that ? or is it true that your aniamls are nothing more than a money making machine to you! Your Income for living~~~ while the grooming business is slow! People like you should not breed anything! You are overwhelmed and have too many animals and your cleaning abilities are nasty and the animals deserve a better life! I will expose the whole album Nancy on this forum if you like~~~ Remember pictures do not LIE! and to anyone interested please feel free to contact me ILOVELUCYFL@aol.com send me an email and just for asking I will prove myself (Not that I need to) I just want to educate everyone to be careful when purchasing from you! or any Puppy Mill Breeder! that they Do not make the mistake I did! And because I did business with you "PETSHACK CHIHUAHUA"S" BY LAW I can tell the WORLD if it was a positive experience or Negative. This is what you hate the most but guess what ? It is LEGAL 100% Ask any attorney ! You have a business right? just like Walmart! Publix ect!~~~ and as a consumer that shops I can legally expose my experience at any place I exchange money ! This is the Law my friend! Their are plenty disgrunted customers from businesses like the one's mentioned above and They are legally aloud to expose their experience to anyone they choose to so with that said ~~~~ so quit saying I can not tel them! I can! Publically on the internet f i choose! What I can not do is lie abouit any company that I never did any business with That is ILLEGAL and You can be punished .I am so sorry you do not like the fact that I had a Bad experience with you and I exposed your nasty shop! Most good business people or companies will make it right with the customer! But not you you got the money and it was final! Even if I did get a guarntee! Sorry if you do not like this exposure! Clean it up! Thats all I want ! I am the voice for the poor animals that can not speak and are a product of bad breeders! They deserve a better start in life!
What about your Merle to Merle Litter? Blind Deaf Babies! I even have pics of those Poor babies! And now they are someone elses responsibilities! Yes ~~you are a Great breeder ! NOT ~~Dogs in Bird cages ! Birds flying around while crapping all over! I have pics of bird droppings all over your store fixtures! Dirty dog beds! Dirty Dog Toys! Rusted cabinets with bird droppings on them too. and you say to all you are CAGEFREE!~~~~~ LOL Do not make me laugh! You refer to your Mommy dogs as MILK WAGONS! Nice Nancy! Listen It is best for you to get off the computer and Clean your Shop! Invest time in that instead of posting lies! You are only making it worse on yourself! You will not like the outcome in the end when the world knows your place! and How you breed Dogs! So do yourself a favor and Clean up!
Have a Happy Holiday!
Below is picture of dog supposidily that was killed! So Do not spread Lies That is Illegal!
Sure hide the nasty shop and take a picture decorated only for a Sale of a puppy! Shame on you!

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Update by voicefortheanimals
Dec 27, 2010 6:00 pm EST

HMMMM Nancy I paid 325.00 for my baby WITH papers! and I have a written receipt from you signed by YOU Nancy White!given to me in my packet from Tammi .I also recieved in the packet my CKC papers for her! signed also by YOU! ~~~~ LOL ~~~~
And yes my hubby stepped on her FOOT~ LOL and we went to vet for a precaution because I am a responsible pet owner not like you! I've have said it 10000 times SO WHAT! and the point you are trying to make!?
Bred the Merle dog who is now named DESI by the way? LOL Yeh Right! I may!

Update by voicefortheanimals
Dec 27, 2010 6:08 pm EST

I think I will post all the copies of paerwork Later and maybe make a album for the peoplke here to view so they can make a decision about all this themself? Hmm What do you think Nancy!? Want me too? I can and LEGALLY!

Update by voicefortheanimals
Dec 28, 2010 12:03 am EST

Yes Zack I know right! She is such a wate of time really! Who sews my clothes you say? not me! HAHAHA! Wow that is a great one! LMAO You think you know so much !You are as Ignorant as they come! I make everything myself my sewing room can prove that! Straight from where? Trailer Park ?Yeh thats why I live in a two story home that has 4 bedrooms /3 bath with 2 additions on 1 acre land Pool, jacuzzi, trampoline wonderful treehouse built for kids! LOL and you live where? ROTFLMAO!
Yes I own 2 trailers in a gated community Empty for several years that have only had people living there temporarily when they lost their own home and I wanted to help them get on their feet! and I still paided the Lot rent for them both.Yes I can afford it! My Grandparents were very respected in this area I have lived here my whole life! I live off my inheritance money! LMAO I sure have alot of toys for someone that has nothing! Ask around ! I am a giver not a taker and I have helped so many in my life and will continue to do so! You will find out quickly the truth you are so desperately looking for! You must raelly have a serious jealousy problem with me. You will never be me so Give up! LMAO
Get a Life MS Puppy Mill Breeder! Quit Stalking me It is a serious crime!
You are a real Nut Job! I will pray that God will help you deal with this jealousy!

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Update by voicefortheanimals
Dec 28, 2010 12:30 am EST

Sorry Brenda Yes if taken that way I did not mean that at all! I was just trying tio defend myself and I should not waste my time it is true! The devil will win then I prayed just now and I know God will provide me the right direction for this matter!
She has stalked me and harrassed me for almost 8 months I have tried to be patient and kind about the whole situation and it did not work! I need to ask God for more patience too!
Thank you I never realized it could be looked at in that way! :(
I am sorry! I have helped many in my life and I am a volunteer to the wetern communities for the less fortunate I Love who I am and I Love to give back!

Update by voicefortheanimals
Dec 28, 2010 12:38 am EST

The Page that I supposidily hijacked! was made BY FARRAH herself without my permission She put me as the administrator of the page! I hijacked nothing that is why It is still up! Hello!
Get your facts right You will need them later!

Update by voicefortheanimals
Dec 28, 2010 8:16 am EST

Farrah There you are! I was wondering! For your information you kno wwhy I put my finger on my cheek to cover the cancer that was on my face ! You are making youirself look bad when you make these comments. They are cruel and the devil is very busy with you as his servant! And I definitely know how to spell with a diploma /and college degree LOL . I just type to fast and do not spell check BIG DEAL! They are called typos my dear! What is BIG is YOU!ROTFLMAO
YOu have sent me no money EVER! I owe you nothing! :) Nor I have received any money from anybody and not sent to them. NICE TRY! LOL.
Yes I made some clothes that I was going to send to you because I felt sorry for you and how lonely you are! I did choose not to send you anything after all the lies you have spread. I know that YOU are the true one behind ALL this with Nancy and when I expose you. I will help Nancy prosecute you to the fullest. You spend all day ~~everyday on the computer watching every move she makes and would report to me all of it!~~ then now you have lied to her about it all. Well surprise I have proof of all your lies! When the time is right >>>It will be a Bad day for you. I wa swarned about you from Nancy and many others and did not listen! I have sold nothing to anyone on Facebook nor taken ANY orders. I have been to busy fulfilling orders that were already made!I have even had to temporarily hold my webpage for a while to complete them because I am the ONLY on ethat sews my clothes! You are so jealous of me and others and it is Sad! You have no Life at all and stuck home daily! I know you are ill and still live at home and I am trying to get your parents some extra help for you.You are a very lonely person and very jealous of Nancy and you always will be. It is like Nancy sleeping with the enemy! I pray she sees right through you! You have nothing to do everyday but surf the internet looking to get into everyone else's business. YOU are the one the one that contacts people about Nancy out of jealousy! You need to maybe find a group to help you feel better and keep yourself busy.I try to remember you are ill Farrah but I will not sit back and watch how you try to ruin other lives because you are so miserable! Also You made a Facebook Page NOT ME an dwhen it was brought to my attention~~~ I was not Happy with you at all. Then you wanted people to believe I hijacked it ROTFLMAO! Well if I had it would be closed DUH! That is why Facebook has left it on! I will close it when I am ready too. :) Happy Holidays!

Update by voicefortheanimals
Dec 28, 2010 4:02 pm EST

please post pics It will bring m more business like it did opn your page! Farrah Do you like your disability check every month? You see when you are on diability my dear you MUST REPORT all income you recieve ! I bet you do not!HMMMMMM! Then be careful who you make angry! It is a felony to rip off the government! Ask any attorney Farrah Troutman! of Farrah's Chihauahua's . Lily's poor Mommy! She had Lily was born this year I got her in June and you already bred her Mommy again! Poor baby! Are you trying to be a puppy mill breeder too? An dyou say they are not inbred? How could they not be you only bred within your own circle of dogs that are related to each other somewhere down the line! Duh!
As far as copies of things I can sure post some awful emails and texts and im's from you about poor Nnacy! Want me too? Leave me alone Farrah I am warning you! Quit Stalking people on the internet! I have reported your computer HTLM address to the proper authorities and they are looking into your activity in the last year. We will find out who did these things to Nancy! It is NOT me and I can not wait to prosecute you for it if it is YOU. You are ill in th emind and that is certified medically and I believe your parants maybe can not care for you properly with all the things you get yourself into . I have reported that also to make sure you are taking your medsication that you desperately need and staying out of trouble! Your parents will know soon enough. Maybe they can not handle you?Think about what you do before you do anything Farrah It may come back to you !

Update by voicefortheanimals
Dec 28, 2010 9:27 pm EST

Farrah Get your Facts straight! Tammy's dogs and Nancy's dogs and yours are related in some way if you follow the breeding line! Also my attorney just gave me the receipt with the price PAID IN FULL for Lily! I bet you forgot about that ~~~Yippy!

Update by voicefortheanimals
Dec 28, 2010 9:53 pm EST

Farrah Chihuhaua's is calling herself >
Lucy you got some splain to do!
Real Name is Farrah Troutman!
She sells the worst Quality Dogs! Do not buy from her they are inbred! Because she breeds her dogs within her own! How could they not be inbred!
I will post a pic of her quality of breeding! You decide! And my puppy was born in April and already her Mom has another litter!
No breaks ! Shame on You!
I smell another Puppy Mill!
Poor Dogs!

Update by voicefortheanimals
Dec 28, 2010 10:25 pm EST

Just filed a complaint about her breeding habits too! Maybe she is also a Puppy Mill breeder!

Update by voicefortheanimals
Dec 29, 2010 1:47 am EST

The sale of ONE puppy does not make you a reputable breeder! It means one person or maybe two were happy. I am not complaining about Lily. I am in Love with Lily BUT I am not a breeder as I stated. You do breed you dogs with Nancy and Petshack and they do come from the same breeding line in some way!
And Why did you breed Lily's Mom again? No break Shame on you! You started all this mess yourself by telling stories back and forth to all. I have so many emails that Nancy will die with what you would send almost daily.I never really paid much attention until now and it really amazes me to read all the crap you would say and NOW try to act like it was never you! The truth will be exposed soon and you will raelly be sorry! All signs so far point directly to YOU!
And even if the above sttement wa strue? Why did you post in previous post that you sold her to me for 450.00! Hmmmm you must have for forgotten that! so that would mean the bal for clothes would be 75.00 not 200.00 as you have told so many! what you said and where! shwwwwwwwwwwww taht is a full time job! Have a Great Evening!

Update by voicefortheanimals
Dec 29, 2010 5:52 pm EST

Farrah Talk about my spelling? Payola! What type of payment is that? ROTFLMAO

MOST OF MY DOGS ARE NO WHERE NEAR RELATE TO NANCY AND TAMMY'S DOGS!>
correction:Most of my dogs are not related to nancy or Tammy's dogs.
for you info> correction : For your information

What kind of grammar is this? You go back to school!

Update by voicefortheanimals
Jan 04, 2011 7:34 am EST

English YOu know what amazes me is the fact that you would be so nasty to a complete stranger? I am in Love with my Dog emotionally mostly because I was diagnoised with Cancer and She has bee to most of my tratments and really helped me so much/.
I Love most animals and spend time daily to try to SAVE another life in a FOREVER Home!
Think before you speak!
Happy New Year!

Update by voicefortheanimals
Jan 04, 2011 7:36 am EST

Nancy Are you serious! This is not a joke at all!
That web link is nothing more than advaertisement for a book! LMAO Well Did you at least buy the book>>? ROTFLMAO!

Update by voicefortheanimals
Jan 05, 2011 12:54 am EST

Nancy Enough Talk ! Do whatever This is a new Year and I will NOT allow you and Farrah to try to start the year with this nonsense!
I have left you FAR alon enad here you go again! Do IT!
I have NOTHING to hide nor have I done ANYTHING WRONG! I have told you this all along! I am LEGALLY aloud to tell anyone that I choose if I did business with someone and it was a bad experience. It is NOT Defaming you to expose my experience with your shop for the purchase of a puppy from you! So Save your money! I have really tried to be quiet for your sake but I can definitely spread the word all over again if you like? Grow up and find better friends to hang with besides Farrah who spoke so much junk about you ( I have soooo much proof) and Now You are Friends! ROTFLMAO! Nancy with friends like her You do not need enemies! You are sleeping with the enemy!
You really need some good legal advise to know whatyour rights are as a business owner and the rights of a consumer to talk about the experience they had with ANY company! You as a business owner need to know that is the risk as an owner. Thsi is why big companies make sure to do right to avoid exposure in a negative way! Your shop pictures were on a public domain! You put them there not me! You obviously wanted to share them publically! Nothing Illegal ok so GET PAST IT!
As far as hacking yours or anyone's computer ~~~~ NOT ME!
Happy New Year!

Update by voicefortheanimals
Jan 06, 2011 5:08 am EST

Hmm Nancy I do not know anything about this comment! at all! I have my differences and one thing for sure I have NEVER said you abuse aniamls or do not tak ecare of them! EVER! So This is absolutely absurd! I think you have made it so public now taht ppl are trying to keep it hot so it is onlt getting worse! I am so over this whole thing with LOSERS!. That is my New Years resolution but you keep it going why?
And as far as JJ they only contacted me TODAY and ARE you NUTS for real? Did you forget ehere i work or what I do>>>? This was a real laugh today thank you! We all needed taht at the courthouse! I will never be in court JJ Thank you You really are a FRUIT CAKE! I will go to real court anytime! I have NOTHING to hide ! I would LOVE TOO! MY pleasure!Until then the answer is NO NO NO! LMAO

Update by voicefortheanimals
Jan 06, 2011 5:09 am EST

An di have an email i can post if you want from Farrah ststing that you got a rescue rotti and you were going to breed her! So as I have said Be careful who you hang with !

Update by voicefortheanimals
Jan 06, 2011 7:48 pm EST

Oh No I agreed to go to Judge Judy I am sueing you! They really want my story! I am waiting to get permission from MY attorney Yes I can afford one. You have no idea what I have or don't have! Ask around to people in my town LOL I am definitely well known LMAO! I share my wealth!

Update by voicefortheanimals
Jan 06, 2011 11:30 pm EST

twiggy so TRUE but she does not care as long as they make her $$$

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Jan 07, 2011 1:43 am EST

Petshack you are really doing bad for your business? posts on here ! But Ok!

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Jan 07, 2011 4:51 pm EST

Yes Zach You do rock! LOL
I definitely did kearn a lesson buying a puppy from someone I did not know or what conditions the puppy was raised in! I hope they keep it going because it continues to warn peopel about them both! Graet Job Ladies Helping me spread the word about Puppy Mills!

Update by voicefortheanimals
Jan 07, 2011 5:15 pm EST

Just for you ladies"
What Is a Puppy Mill

What Is a Puppy Mill?
A puppy mill is a large-scale commercial dog breeding operation where profit is given priority over the well-being of the dogs. Unlike responsible breeders, who place the utmost importance on producing the healthiest puppies possible, breeding at puppy mills is performed without consideration of genetic quality. This results in generations of dogs with unchecked hereditary defects.
Puppy mill puppies are typically sold to pet shops—usually through a broker, or middleman—and marketed as young as eight weeks of age. The lineage records of puppy mill dogs are often falsified.
What Problems Are Common to Puppy Mill Dogs?
Illness, disease, fearful behavior and lack of socialization with humans and other animals are common characteristics of dogs from puppy mills. Because puppy mill operators fail to apply proper husbandry practices that would remove sick dogs from their breeding pools, puppies from puppy mills are prone to congenital and hereditary conditions. These can include:
Epilepsy
Heart disease
Kidney disease
Musculoskeletal disorders (hip dysplasia, luxating patellas, etc.)
Endocrine disorders (diabetes, hyperthyroidism)
Blood disorders (anemia, Von Willebrand disease)
Deafness
Eye problems (cataracts, glaucoma, progressive retinal atrophy, etc.)
Respiratory disorders
On top of that, puppies often arrive in pet stores—and their new homes—with diseases or infirmities. These can include:
Giardia
Parvovirus
Distemper
Upper respiratory infections
Kennel cough
Pneumonia
Mange
Fleas
Ticks
Intestinal parasites
Heartworm
Chronic diarrhea

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Jan 09, 2011 5:07 am EST

You tell me ? Is this fair to the puppies?

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Jan 09, 2011 5:10 am EST

The poor sick rotti that was rescued by you as a Stray? BUT Not a good choice to expose a stray with small puppies!

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Jan 09, 2011 5:22 am EST

My Puppy that I bought from her while at her shop in a what? Bird Cage and look how filthy! I rescued her! :)

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Jan 09, 2011 5:55 am EST

This is not a bird cage either? Right?ROTFLMAO! You have alot of nerve Farrah ~~You forgot how many pics you mailed out about Nancy's Shop! LOL :) You have done so much behind her back!

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Jan 09, 2011 5:58 am EST

Thank you Zachary and Lov my pup It is so obvious and They do not see it>>>> >?
I have soooo many more very disturbing pictures but I will wait until my day in court! And NO it will not be on Judge Judy! Sorry My attorney said No Way :( But I will keep you posted!

Update by voicefortheanimals
Jan 09, 2011 6:03 am EST

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Judge Judy sure does! You are right there! Yes she Nancy was dumn enough to think that they would take her case? LMAO When they called me and I tol dmy side! They ask me to please com eon the show against her! I really wish I could Talk about exposure! Everyone would know about her! But unfortunately My attorney will not allow me to go on tv! The case has way too much information that could also be used in court!

Update by voicefortheanimals
Jan 09, 2011 6:04 am EST

Zachary they are from Petshack ! Her shop where she works, lives and Breeds! Yuk! and she posted them all on her wall. She is actually proud of her place! EWWWWWWWWWWW!

Update by voicefortheanimals
Jan 09, 2011 6:09 am EST

They are definitely hillbillies and maybe this is the way they live in their neck of the woods but this is Nasty in my view!
No animal deserves this! The personality shows on a puppy from a puppy mill.Their dogs are raised in crowded quarters and they become aggressive during meal time because they fought too many siblings each feeding! Poor babies!
They will never change but at least they are making themself a name on here! LMAO!

Update by voicefortheanimals
Jan 09, 2011 6:11 am EST

They are both in the Carolina's as you can see on their websites! The laws in Carolina"s are not strict enough that is obvious and they do NOT require a Breeder's License to breed . This is what you get when they are not monitored!

Update by voicefortheanimals
Jan 09, 2011 6:24 am EST

Yes other breeds and Birds! and her best friend FArrah says she breed a rescue rotti too?I have an email to prove she said it! She will tell you herself she breeds dogs and birds and proud to say it! :( The birds fly free all around dropping poop all over ! wanna see a pic of poop on the file cabinet! EWWWWW

Update by voicefortheanimals
Jan 09, 2011 7:26 am EST

Thank you my new friend! I appreciate your Love for the fur babies! I know it has caused me alot of controversy but I Love my animals and I will not ignore people that do not Love them and give them the life they deserve! My rescues are 100% better quality puppy in personality and health! Look at my rescue baby below!

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Jan 09, 2011 7:48 am EST

Number one!
My rescue baby is spayed ###! Florida spays our rescues unlike your state!
And you talk to a rescue person not rescues Idiot! I choose to not want to deal with her psycho self! I did not know her and I do not want to! I choose my destiny always and I make decisions because of what I want!
I am a volunteer for SEVERAL rescues here even our Animal Control! LOL so What rescues? LIAR! Do you volunteer anywhere? I did not think so! ROTFLMAO!
Cussing at my kids LOL you have really lost it! I do not even curse in front of them EVER! My boys will attest to that! I do not have a potty mouth like you! I am a Christian and My Babies attend Christian school and I live my life as best as I can to Please my heavenly Father! I pray every night for you!and my enemies! God says Love my enemies as I would myself! :0

Update by voicefortheanimals
Jan 09, 2011 8:03 am EST

Lying will get you NO wHere! People that know me personally can attest for the type of person I am and Mother! My children are My world!

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Jan 09, 2011 6:29 pm EST

tHANK U I should of thought of that! LOL Besides she always trys to get it off the subject at hand!

Update by voicefortheanimals
Jan 09, 2011 6:37 pm EST

But I think I got my point across to many out there! :)
Thank you jersey Guy also!

Update by voicefortheanimals
Jan 09, 2011 6:39 pm EST

Thank you for the apology! I am definitely the good Guy! :) Not S--tshack LMAO

Update by voicefortheanimals
Jan 10, 2011 3:43 am EST

Thank you Brenda ~~But you are dealing with extremely immature women!

Update by voicefortheanimals
Jan 10, 2011 3:47 am EST

I do not know ANYONE on these threads at all LMAO You are getting what you ask for from educated people who have called you out! LMAO!
You rescue and breed your rescues! SICK Backyard Breeder!

Update by voicefortheanimals
Jan 10, 2011 5:28 am EST

What Funds! I did not get any funds with my rescues! LOL You do Tahts why you took Daubie! He came with money! $$$$
and Florida spays and neuters dogs when adopting ### unlike your state! LOL
I have NEVER taken any animals to a shelter in my life!
What dog was bred? You are so funny! I hope you are right!? LMAO I can not wait for my puppy! ROTFLMAO!
You really are Clueless!
Go clean your place! Get off the internet!

Update by voicefortheanimals
Jan 10, 2011 5:32 am EST

Thank you Davey
Yes Please help me get the word out! These women need to stop breeding Dogs! They are not in in for anything more than $$$$! Someone gave petshack dogs due to their declining health and she even sold some of them and gave some away and she continued to breed them! One of her latest litters was from the rescue mom and she has double cherry eye poor baby! you give two craps about your animals or you would STOP!
You breed for quality When is the last show your animals were in? LMAO!

Update by voicefortheanimals
Jan 10, 2011 5:36 am EST

LMAO! Whats the matter You do not recognize the poorly bred puppy you sold me Petshack ? LOTFLMAO!
No She is very much alive LOL ! No Thanks to you!

Update by voicefortheanimals
Jan 10, 2011 5:59 am EST

Amen animal cop My adopted pets are the best! They have the best personalities! I learned a very hard lesson!

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Jan 10, 2011 6:02 am EST

Thank you davey70 I sure do email me ilovelucyfl@aol.com!
Love to help stop a puppy mill!

Update by voicefortheanimals
Jan 10, 2011 6:04 am EST

Petshack you live, eat, sleep, groom, and BREED all in the same place and all the dogs, birds, goat and what else live there too! Farrah told me you bathe where your dogs are washed daily for grooming! eWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

Update by voicefortheanimals
Jan 10, 2011 6:06 am EST

Travel Funds LOL You will never get me to come there ! LMAO! No Thank you I do not want to bring anything back to my town ! This is why I have an attorney LOL

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Jan 10, 2011 6:13 am EST

You are very smart Davey70
I have been watching them for over a year funny thing is they use to be ENEMIES! Farrah trashed Petshack daily on emails, text, walls ext. Some of the photos I have I got from her! And now they are best friends again. They Deserve each other! :)

Update by voicefortheanimals
Jan 10, 2011 6:24 am EST

Let me ask you What is th ebig deal about me breeding or not! At least I am licensed to breed if I wanted too.and I choose not to. I have been licensed for 17 yrs! I did breed dachshunds for SHOWS not $$ This Shows what you know! LMAO
Chiweenies? hmmm I only know of one litter that was a rescue that was bred and that was a breach of contract so I took the dog back and delivered puppies safely and rehomed them all to approved homes Spayed and Neutered! ON A CONTRACT! no other litter sorry and that was 11 months ago! LMAO
I named your dogs?:! LMAO I do not know your dogs names LOL nor do I want to!
i wish I had 3 litters of puppies right now!ROTFLMAO!
When I did breed I was not like you and farrah. You both are in it for the $$
Farrah is the one that told me you bred the rescue Not true? LOL
Jada rescue dog! She has puppies now right?

Update by voicefortheanimals
Jan 10, 2011 6:30 am EST

petshack you watch way too much animal planet! I am banned frim rescue LOL this is why I just was given 3 rotti puppies to try to revive them to health> I wasup 3 days day and night =with a friend feeding them hoping they will make it! And they have another they are begging me to take! No dog went to shelter registered to me! EVER! I only have one dog with chip with me!Liar Liar! nor Put to sleep LIAR LIAR
I choose my battles and who i want to fight with or not!

Update by voicefortheanimals
Jan 10, 2011 7:01 am EST

Gorgeous chis davey70 Are they yours?

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Jan 10, 2011 7:29 am EST

And this is Lovely Ms Petshack Chihauhua's Nancy White!
Now who has bad teeth? I know now why you are single!

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Jan 10, 2011 6:01 pm EST

Davey 70 You are so welcome! I have so many more!They really are UGLY inside and Out! What poor souls they are ! And they have the nerve to talk about me? ROTFLMAO!

Update by voicefortheanimals
Jan 10, 2011 6:20 pm EST

First fox24nak8 I totally agree with you and you said it well> I definitely know better than to bow down to their level > I know better :( It has been going on for so long and i just get so frustrated with the stalking, Lies rude comments and I should ignore them. yes I have taken it to the necessary parties and it is an ongoing investigation still! I am glad that I made it known across the globe about their awful breeding. I have been to the shelters so many times as I am a volunteer at several and It breaks my heart to see how many are euthanized DAILY! even pure breeds! This was a learning experience I care never to redo but i always look at my puppy and say I rescued her at least! nShe was so supportive through my cancer treatment and we really bonded.I would never be sorry for her becoming a part of my life! I will try to take some advice from you and Pray for God to give me the strength to ignore them! :)
davey70 I do not know you and Jersey guy but Thank you to all for helping me fight against puppy mill breeders. They are very ill if they truly believe they are not! They fit all the qualifications to fall under that category! I pray Nancy you did file so I can make a real joke out of you and your business! You are also a real Clown if you think you are important enough to think a judge would want me there?! LMAO! For your lil case of a Big nothing! When you try to sue for (deformation of Character) LMAO I will countersue for all the expenses for my baby! :)
Dead?! Now that is so funny! You will try anything !> Low Low life people you both are! I am so glad you do not live in our town! But I must tell you if you were in FLORIDA! You would be fried! Florida does not tolerate this kind of animal neglect! we HATE PUPPY MILLS! So come on move to Florida! so I can chew you up!

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Jan 10, 2011 6:23 pm EST

Fighting for the animals THank you I knew you would see this some day and go off! You definitely do know me for several years and have been in my home and know what I stand for! I am so glad that you spoke on my behalf. I really do not care what these ###s say about me. Their day is coming. You know me well~~~ and Know my personality! I will get justice for the ANIMALS! iT IS JUST TAKING A LITTLE TIME! Love you !

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Jan 10, 2011 9:44 pm EST

No I have a way better legal battle with you in store! You are a Puppy Mill and need to be STOPPED to save the Animals!

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Jan 11, 2011 2:21 pm EST

cecilo what is that link? I see both their names on it? who did that?

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Jan 11, 2011 4:53 pm EST

petshack YES I have onr from you SPAYED! bet you did not know that Duh she is a sick dog so i spayed her a long time ago while volunteer at one of my many shelters ! LMAO Merlin is not Merlin anymore! Desi Thank you and no he is not neutered and will NOT be neutered! He will not be bred by me but just because you both think I have to neuter him I will NOT> Also he is registered to me not my( name though) LOL! keep you guessing and the other is definitely NOT a breeder dog LOL she has a teenie head fat long body What a joke you both are ! You both knew I do not breed and will not breed because of all the deaths daily! I will however deliver and save puppies all I can and spay the Mom's! I just delivered 6 puppies 2 weeks ago for a rescue, then I fostered 3 puppies from miami from another rescue friend, then now I am fostering 2 puppies almost ready for new homes and I do it all with a friend at her home so you think you know what is up YOU DO NOT! LMAO! And if I wanted to breed I am licensed to~~ I choose NOT too! There are too many beautiful babies put to sleep daily to breed. Since I have been at the shelters working I have seen over a dozen chihuahua puppies delivered and pure breed that are definitely better quality than either of yours are! LMao so you see I do NOT need to breed ever! Get your stories right!LIar!LIAR!
And my very old married name was Faircloth my name now is ? Bet you do not know! So Do you really think you know me?
And I own property I do not live in lake Worth! ROTFLMAO
You look like a ignorant woman even more now!

Update by voicefortheanimals
Jan 11, 2011 5:28 pm EST

Look what I found petshack! Pet Shack Of Northside

“Pet Shack Of Northside”

Since: May 07
72
born & raised in Miami, Fla
Reply »|Report Abuse|Judge it!|#216Dec 1, 2007
Someone ask you this?
Concerned wrote:

Why you are posting in the Zoo so nicely and then coming over here and blasting her!
On your post on the Zoo forum, you made a heartfelt post that you wanted to help her,
I started the think you actually did this for the dogs, for the children,
Now i think there could be many more motivations here, my god woman you are really 2 faced,
from the looks of you facility you certainly have little room to talk!

Nicely? Hmmm, I went there to defend myself once aagin because of freaks like you who seem to think animal abuse is OK. Until you see what I did and I must not have been the only one that thought is was bad, she has been arrested and CHARGED... with 41 counts! so guess I payed them to right? WRONG! facts are facts! And Miss. Dunn lived like a pig and treated her dogs even worse! And I has a concered neighbor for the health of her dogs after seeing them run loose and look the way they did, I knew something wa wrong, but just did not expect THAT! And for the health of my dogs, when hers would come to my fence looking for FOOD, water and dang some LOVE and just plain attention, afriad they might be carrying something, most that where loose looked like they had the mange, and for you Goldendoodles lovers on here, you should have seen the way heres LOOKED! It would have made you SICK! trust me! So before you start juming on me, you need to read or listen to the news about this story and we will have to wait until Jan 7, 2007 for the final out come, May she also have to sit behind bars with no fresh air to breath, like she made most of her dogs!

Update by voicefortheanimals
Jan 11, 2011 5:32 pm EST

more i found PUBLIC ON THE NET!Nov 26, 2007

Pet Shack Of Northside wrote:

OH NO! You read it wrong, I offered my help in AUG/07 when the police where here, she cried to me, and I had tears also, I gave her my number told her I would HELP her COTAIN her dogs, I had hot wire, box and MY TIME ! I was called a sucker & a sap by other neighbors for feeling sorry for her. DID I KNOW WHAT THEY WHERE LIVING IN... Oh trust ME! it wold have been on then in the front yard! So you need to go back and read my post, I went there to defend myself after my friend told me others where talking about me on that post! So get your crap straight please!
And you may my friend may come and see my grooming shop or come to my home { as long as you carry germs..lol that my dogs can catch!} anytime missy!
Unfortunatly the more you write the more i see what has gone on here, MISSY
From the pictures you have posted and the numerous animals you have on your site, in crates pens, wet ground i have absolutly no desire to vist your "shop",
It is really sad that you choose this route and not tried harder to help
was it jealousy? was it competition? what?
do you really care or did you just go out of your way to do WHATEVER it took to get her out of business, for your personal gain? who knows about people like you, busy bodies that are wholier then thou I feel sorry for you MISSY

Update by voicefortheanimals
Jan 11, 2011 8:02 pm EST

Just remember Nancy Petshack You started it all over again! Everyone knows about you now so I am definitely through! :) see you soon

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Jan 12, 2011 6:10 am EST

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Establishing the truth is the single most effective defense that can be offered. If the remark is truthful and it "hurts", is embarrassing, or subjects you to ridicule, there is little you can do. Unfortunately, unless the remark is false, you have no recourse.

MY remarks are not FALSE! So this is why you have No recourse!

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It was my own experience I can share! Sorry :(
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Once again you used a photo that is copyrighted! and to let you know ANY photo of me as Lucy is my entertainment attorney's property and you may not use it without my permission! and that will be NEVER!
I guess when your other walls got closed down it was not enough!

Update by voicefortheanimals
Jan 15, 2011 6:23 pm EST

farrah you may be 27 but you look 60! you have some right to call me names Look at you~~~ Look at me! LMAO I get $$$ For my looks Yeppers!

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Jan 15, 2011 6:52 pm EST

Pa Law You are correct and I apologize if it seems that way I am just very frustrated and I needed to vent.
I was offline a few days and It has been nonstop with stalking and harassment! Even on other blogs! I need to keep my mind focused and on the animals because It IS all about them ! If I allow it to turn to a personal attack to me I will not be helping the poor animals in their care at all. Please forgive me !

Update by voicefortheanimals
Jan 15, 2011 10:02 pm EST

palaw Tahnk you again,
Yes my attorney has definitely advised me to get off this junk. I am bull headed however i have broken any laws . I had a business transaction taht wa sa very bad experience and by law I can post it anywhere. She and the other breeder had someone stalk me call y tel all hours and even threatened to slash my face. I have cancer and had surgery on my face over 300 stitcehes and they publically made fun of me because of that. I have NEVER called her, stalked her, harrassed her in any way at all.I have only made it known in several places what she does to hopefully STop at lease one more PUPPY MILL! She posted nonpublic information on these threads illegally! Even my address of a home that I own and is rented and they were robbed this week . If it can be proven that it was from anything on here or them it is very illegal. They have taken photos that are copyrited with a professional. The list goes on and on! No I am not taking her to small claims we have something bigger planned it is just taking so long to get it done. But my attorney says BE Patient! We have several other agencies involved and their is a time line to do it right so I will be patient a she says! Thank you for your concern Thank you for the Love of Animals!

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Jan 16, 2011 8:43 pm EST

this is a email I got in my INBOX... sure looks like she is attached to it !

And Pet Shack Of Northside has responded as follows:

"Lista Lucy Faircloth (birdsnflight2004@yahoo.com) { this is my email address} but not my name it is HERS!

NO IDEA! NICE TRY THOUGH! LMAO!

Update by voicefortheanimals
Jan 17, 2011 2:17 am EST

OH and the agency I am currently listed with has a DON which is my supervisor so with that said I am working with an RN What do you know?! So find someone else to stalk!

Update by voicefortheanimals
Jan 17, 2011 3:24 pm EST

WOW Fight 4 what I believe in. Thank you so much for stating what you have SEEN first hand. I appreciate it so much. I have heard it through the grapevine also and some of the agencies that have been in her shop state the same thing about her and her shop. I have so many pictures also of the filth the poor babies are living in daily and she breeds and breeds over and over.Yes she DID breed merle to merle and the poor babies are deaf and blind! SICK! But she tries to tell people she is such a reputable breeder. And to think she actually thinks if we went to a judge she could win. PLEASE! Feel free to email me if you like ILOVELUCYFL@.comcast.net
Thank you again!

Update by voicefortheanimals
Jan 18, 2011 3:02 am EST

HMMMMMMMM Nancy that dog on the left IS LUCY in my husbands hands 3 days after I got her and the dog on the rif=ght? I never saw before! Who the heck is that?
And Farrah~~ Applehead! LOL I do not have any applehead EVER! LMAO! Ask anyone I Love DEER! Duh!

Update by voicefortheanimals
Jan 18, 2011 3:04 am EST

yes kissthis2times ? Even one of the agencies that has dealt with Nancy at her business says She has a few screws loose! and sometimes makes nonsense! LMAO I sure hope it is alcohol and not certified nut for her sake!

Update by voicefortheanimals
Jan 18, 2011 2:52 pm EST

Really? That is why I still have that blanket! LMAO! and where might you have gotten that pic from? Hmmmmm?
Jealousy!? Please I LOVE ME!

Update by voicefortheanimals
Jan 18, 2011 3:04 pm EST

LMAO FUNNY I have a duplicate pictures of her with my husband's hand and her blanket over 10! By the way notice her rolling eye even when she was in this picture! LMAO so if it was Billy's hand It was noticeable before she left you! You really should keep your mouth shut you are only digging your hole deeper!

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Update by voicefortheanimals
Jan 18, 2011 3:06 pm EST

I have many more LIAR LIAR! Have another cocktail!

Update by voicefortheanimals
Jan 18, 2011 3:11 pm EST

Nancy Petshack has another name she is using also try to hide her reputation!
Little Blue Smoke'n Chili Peppers Chihuahuas

Update by voicefortheanimals
Jan 18, 2011 3:25 pm EST

I did not do research She was a referral and I trusted them. No more I found out Later ! I learned a hard lesson and Yes I did report her and it is an ongoing investigation!

Update by voicefortheanimals
Jan 18, 2011 3:35 pm EST

fight 4 what i belive in Profile

fight 4 what i belive in
Member since Jan 17, 2011
Winnsboro, South Carolina
United States
Yeh ok Farrah or Nancy! LMAO

Update by voicefortheanimals
Jan 18, 2011 4:13 pm EST

Jodi You are so correct in what you are saying and my attorney tells me DAILY! Also my parents! But i am so bull headed to defend myself and I should not care! I try but it is so hard! it is not only on here though it is on other blogs and forums! They are really sick people! I should write a book like someone suggested to me!
The puppy was delivered by another breeder friend of there's that does not breed like they do BUT she has been there? Farrah also always told me to go there and I will be so upset with Petshack! But now they are best friends?
yes the puppy i got that is sick and cosmetically ugly is the sweetest most gentle baby She was with me in through all my cancer treatments! I Love her and will FOREVER! I just hope she will not die because of the neurological problems from being inbred!
When Nancy said send her back to me ~~ I said no way I do not want another or $$ What I want is her breeding habits to STOP and Clean up the FILTH the dogs live in!

Update by voicefortheanimals
Jan 18, 2011 4:24 pm EST

What matters most is how you see yourself ...

Update by voicefortheanimals
Jan 18, 2011 4:31 pm EST

Yes so true! Thank you for words of Wisdom Jodi!

Update by voicefortheanimals
Jan 18, 2011 4:36 pm EST

Whats the matter Petshack Nancy cat got your tongue when you got caught in another LIE! Its ok Everyone knows you are a LIAR! You are a CERTIFIED LIAR! ROTFLMAO

Update by voicefortheanimals
Jan 19, 2011 4:38 am EST

Farrah and Petshack Chihuahua's Why do you keep reposting that vulgarity? Because it is your style? Disgusting! You are only confirming to many your true personalities!

Update by voicefortheanimals
Jan 19, 2011 11:30 pm EST

I agree with you Brenda and SOL She is such a LOOSER! If she would STOP her SICK BREEDING People would leave her alone! Duh!

Update by voicefortheanimals
Jan 20, 2011 7:14 am EST

I have had it with all your posting of lies about me, Farrah & Tammy!
Leave Tammy out of this ! She is NOTHING like you two are!And hopefully never will be!

You have never replied back why YOU sought out breeders to buy 3 ###?

Really ? I bought 2 puppies one from you (Sick) By the way she SPAYED! so Farrah offered me one of hers at a discount because of my sick dog I even have an email when she first contacted me ! Yep :) and the third is ?

And why you where bragging about "Your new stud dog".. Who is my new stud dog? The rescue from Farrah for FREE because he can not be a stud in any breeding line?because of a penis operation AND cherry eye? which he was sent with medication for that! Lmao! I think I may look into that!

which is it be honest here and let them know YOU DO BREED!

To have ONE litter of puppies ~~does not MAKE me a breeder my dear! "ONE" and the Chiweenies were a result of a signed spay/ neuter contract where the new family did NOT spay her and bred her so I had dog returned to me delivered the puppies and sold them for 150.00 and WHAT? donanted to TWO RESCUE GROUPS! LMAO

You are on OUR DO NOT SELL LIST

Your What? This is the best yet!Do not make me laugh You are on the DO NOT BUY FROM LIST NATIONWIDE! ROTFLMAO! & this is what this is all about! Sorry ...:)PUPPY MILL BREEDER!PUPPYMILLBREEDER!PUPPY MILL BREEDER!PUPPYMILLBREEDER!PUPPY MILL BREEDER!PUPPYMILLBREEDER! PUPPY MILL BREEDER!PUPPYMILLBREEDER!

What?! I would not want one of your sick puppies! EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
No Thank you~~ Inbred puppies! I wanted a puppy before I knew what kind of puppy breeder you were!

Update by voicefortheanimals
Jan 20, 2011 7:17 am EST

Who would want a puppy from such FILTH?: Poor Babies to liv ein such close quarters with so many others! Shame on you!

A picture a day will keep the BUYERS AWAY!

So Keep it up Petshack I will just keep educating the public about your nasty shop!

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Update by voicefortheanimals
Jan 20, 2011 5:57 pm EST

I DID? LMAO! WHen? never! YOU ARE A REAL SICK ONE! GO TAKE YOUR MEDS DEAR YOU ARE NOW BELIEVING YOUR OWN LIES!

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Jan 20, 2011 5:58 pm EST

English I am laughing too!

Update by voicefortheanimals
Jan 20, 2011 7:50 pm EST

NO I DIDN"T Waaaaaaaaaaaahhhh Wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh LMAO!

Update by voicefortheanimals
Jan 22, 2011 12:24 am EST

Farrah
This is what happens when you open your personal business on the net ! So imagine what you have done to me posting addresses! There was a serious problem after you posted and the authorities are trying to piece it all together to see if it is linked to here! If it is you are in Great Trouble! You posted personal information about me to put me in danger once again! If I was to be hurt~~ You will feel really bad! Think about that! You have brought all this on yourself!

Update by voicefortheanimals
Jan 22, 2011 2:15 pm EST

Miss jsanbruno!
Thank you so much for your comments and what you said all the way is SOOOOOO True I have tried to tell them but they do not listen Farrah has the worst potty mouth 24 yrs old and it makes her LOOK terrible!
Anyway Thank you so much for your comments You are an intelligent woman!
Have a Great Day!

Update by voicefortheanimals
Jan 23, 2011 6:13 am EST

BBRICE I do not know you! So Stop the Lies!
I contacted you about a puppy? Really! ? News to me LOL You better check your emails!
The Proof is out my dear! People are not stupid! And buy the way Have you been to her shop? I myself have not BUT the authorities HAVE and that was a trusted report! So That only confirmed all the rumors that Farrah had told me! And Farrah is who sent me photos of her filthy shop and they are best friends Now! ROTFLMAO!

Update by voicefortheanimals
Jan 24, 2011 5:40 am EST

Again I say Bbrice~~~~~~~~~~~~ I do not know you and you know NOTHING about me!
Judge judy! LMAO Do not make me laugh ! This is far too serious for Judge Judy! This is for a real courtroom and them to face the facts!If you follow all the post you would see clearly for yourself who is in the wrong and soon you will see it legally they are in the wrong! LOL
My Chihuahua is a race? LMAO I emcee Jerk! My dogs hav never been in races LOL I get paid to Emcee Dummy! So get your facts right! have you been to an evnt >>? NO! If you had you may have known that LOL My chihuahua stays in my arms! LOL Duh! So who is crazy now!
I get plenty Limelight my friend I was on the news last night and local paper today LOL! You may not Love Lucy but many in the world did and appreciate her legend that lives in ME! I will continue to do what I do and WELL!
Oh I gained over 200 friends from there postings! Some very important friends too! The only people need medical help is people who support these woman and all puppy mill breeders! They have proven to many what type of people and breeders they are by all the trash they post and photos do not LIE my dear! No one in their right mind would defend such abuse to an animal breeder that breeds this way!

Update by voicefortheanimals
Jan 24, 2011 5:49 am EST

Thank you Msjsan bruno! You hit it on the head!

Update by voicefortheanimals
Jan 24, 2011 5:32 pm EST

Really BBrice You met me? Liar Liar I do NOT know you!so you are LIAR!
A year? Really well wrong again I got my puppy from Nancy march hmmmm last time I checked that wa snot a year ago!
and I got the puppy from Farrah in June! that was 7 months ago ! so a year? Where? LMAO
I NEVER said anything about any pitbull hanging BUT I did read it! She has many who do not like hert or Farrah they have already given a dispostion to authorities for the investigation. I think she will be very surprised! I was!Photos! Hmm They were public for ALL to see! Sorry wrong again! and soem I got from Farrah and some from my attorney ! LMAO
And if you feel that her shop is good then you are as filthy as her EWWWWW!
Those conditions are not ok'! Duh!
Also my attorney will NOT let me go to Judge Judy!
It was not my decision! nor would I want Petshack to have to pay me not the shopw! That is why she wants it there so they will pay the money when I WIN!

Update by voicefortheanimals
Jan 24, 2011 10:42 pm EST

Really I am dangerous! Do not make me laugh! In order to do my jobs in the past we must have a psychological evaluation LOL I have NO mental issues at all.
Bbrice ~~ Yes my attorney IS angry I post here but I am my own person and I pay him to work for me and I AM within the law! Thank you!
I am waiting patiently for a court date! You all have no idea! I take this very serious you will soon see!
You have been to her shop several times ? Poor you !
So have the authorities and they do NOT feel the same way you do!

Update by voicefortheanimals
Jan 24, 2011 11:15 pm EST

You could not be more wrong! That is all I have to say! I do not know who you are NOR do I care!

Update by voicefortheanimals
Jan 25, 2011 5:06 pm EST

lista lucy faircloth — cyber bullying
Take a look at the photos of Petshack Chihuahua;s and you tell me who is crazy!
PUPPY MILL BREEDER!

Update by voicefortheanimals
Jan 26, 2011 3:44 am EST

Miss Jsanbruno
And you will not see me use that foul language. I am a lady and I carry myself as one always!

Update by voicefortheanimals
Jan 26, 2011 2:22 pm EST

Finally someone else can clearly see the truth!
I also had a good relationship via telephone with Nancy but I had no idea what her conditions were for the animals at that time. Only after hiring an attorney did he expose the truth to me and I was so embarrassed and humiliated to accept I bought a puppy from there! She is very knowledgeable about Chihuahua's and very easy to talk to That is NOT the problem. It is far more serious after the exposure to these conditions! She was very nice to me also until I questioned these problems then she became angry!
Let it be known to ALL I am not attacking anyone or trying to destroy her business. That was not nor has it been my intentions! I am an UNBELIEVABLE Animal Lover and Advocate and I will NOT stand back ~~ shut my mouth and ignore the horrific conditions that these poor babies have lived in and all the information that I have received from her locals and past customers who will remain anonymous until necessary in court! They have TRIED to destroy my livelihood as Lucy but Thank God I am protected legally and it has not hurt me at all! I am very busy and I will continue to do what I do for the animals.I have a GREAT REPUTATION STILL!
I bet you ALL did not know something! I do events year round as Lucy BUT I bet you did not know I do Charity Events and Fundraisers for Animal Rescue Groups, Local Shelters. I also do events at the Cancer Institute for Children all for FREE! And because of their postings on Facebook accounts and making a I HATE LUCY PAGE (which I had closed down and several others pages by both of them)and other blogs many of the children that are patients had read some of it and are now not permitted to go on the internet to look at my event photos. I had to start a private page(which you will NEVER find) Just for the kids to view. That is so Sad!
Petshack could have saved herself alot of aggravation in the past had she taken care of the problem in April last year. It is NOT about $$ for me at all! It is about her shop changing its habits in breeding and Filthy living conditions they are forced to LIve in! She knows that she has received visits in the recent past from several agencies in regards to her conditions. I have been told by THEM she did comply and change a few things with the birds and ongoing with the Dogs! So without getting in the way of the ongoing INVESTIGATIONS taht is what I want to be done! When the conditions are changed and the breeding standards from her are changed I will move on until then I will continue to educate the public about her and I do not care if it ruins her sale of puppies then maybe she will be forced to Stop BREEDING! That would be a blessing to the animals and her community. She may feel she is loved and accepted in her own community and I must share with you all She is NOT> There have been many complaints to local authorities about her shop and the locals have tried to have her closed down. The problem is her her State their are not alot of laws about breeding. You can have numerous animals on your property, They do not require a breeders license. You can back to back breeding because their are no laws to protect them. This is probably why she left Florida! Well Their are laws to protect the conditions that the animals live in and she was given a time frame to change the filthy conditions and at this point SHE has not complied yet. So that is the legal hold up to move forward for all. I hope this may clear up why so long to end. The law states to give people the chance to correct the violations up before it turns to a legal case in court. Even when she completes what needs to be done I will continue to have her shop monitored for as long as she has a business because I want to be assured that the animals remain SAFE! If anyone has any questions or comments Please feel free to post here and I will gladly try to answer as long as it does not interfere with the investigation! I am sorry that it has went on this long and Lord knows I want it over but it takes time! Thank you very much for your continued patience!

Update by voicefortheanimals
Jan 26, 2011 2:39 pm EST

‎1-877-MILL-TIP
It's simple. Just leave them a message with whatever info you have on the situation. They ask for your contact info so they can follow up if necessary. BUT if you want to call anonymously you can definitely do that as well. It's a simple answering machine. I encourage anyone to call and report any questionable breeding practices.

Update by voicefortheanimals
Jan 26, 2011 5:56 pm EST

bbrice~ You work for the state? Really prove yourself and I will share the proof with you! I do NOT Lie my friend! I am just careful so I will wait to hear from you because if you truly do then you would KNOW I am telling all truth!
I WILL WAIT TO HEAR FROM YOU!

Update by voicefortheanimals
Jan 27, 2011 8:17 pm EST

jersey guy ! This is about Petshack Chihuahua's!

Update by voicefortheanimals
Jan 27, 2011 8:17 pm EST

brice ~~~ I will not continue to comment on your stupis comments after this!
I repeat myself YES THEY HAVE BEEN THERE I AM SURE THEY WILL NOT LIE ABOUT THAT!
and I do NOT live in Lake worth! I own a home which is empty! Get your facts right ! Again I will say I do everything Legal! So Stop the harassment before it becomes a problem for you which is what we are looking into now. I do NOT know you ! You are leaving comments and threats daily and that my dear is Illegal You must KNOW me and have done some personal business to post anything about me! You should know right You work for the State! LMAO!It is called slander and deformation of character right!
So Please LEAVE ME ALONE!
By posting everyday you are only hurting her more! Ask any attorney!

Update by voicefortheanimals
Jan 28, 2011 7:10 pm EST

Healer! LMAO

Update by voicefortheanimals
Jan 31, 2011 10:08 pm EST

I have Plenty Proof! QUIT STALKING ME FARRAH TROUTMAN!
YOU ARE TRUELY CRAZY!

Update by voicefortheanimals
Feb 01, 2011 5:58 am EST

i AGREE KELSEY! mY RESCUE CHIHUAHUA IS PERFECT IN EVERY WAY AND VERY HEALTHY WITH A GREAT PERSONALITY!I LEARNED THE HARD WAY!

Update by voicefortheanimals
Feb 02, 2011 3:08 am EST

hEY tEA 4 TWO YOU ARE A REL SICK PERSON. I HAVE NO DISEASE AND THAT IS SLANDER BECAUSE I DO NOT KNOW YOU. THANK YOU FOR BECOMING A PART OF THE INVESTIGATION! LMAO I FEEL SORRY FOR YOU! YOU MUST ALSO HAVE NO LIFE SO YOU SIT IN FRONT OF A COMPUTER ALL DAY AND EAT TWINKIES! I DO NOT NEED YOUR APPROVAL AND I HAVE SUCCESSFULLY ACHIEVED WHAT I WANTED TO DO AND THAT WAS TO EXPOSE A PUPPY MILL WHICH I DID! YOU WRITE JUST LIKE HER FRIEND YOU THINK I DO NOT KNOW WHO YOU ARE! LMAO!

Update by voicefortheanimals
Feb 02, 2011 6:22 am EST

phil collin yes i was and he is on the investigation now!
Jdh55 Lucy loves you too!

Update by voicefortheanimals
Feb 02, 2011 6:24 am EST

I think she has some splannin to do! LMAO!

Update by voicefortheanimals
Feb 02, 2011 2:19 pm EST
Update by voicefortheanimals
Feb 14, 2011 6:23 pm EST

You know cocoo puffs I should not even respond but I sent this to several people so I felt I better LOL
No oNe was keeping anything going until you! So if Nancy is your friend as I know she is you would not have started all over for her! So with that said I will continue forward with what I have been ! YOU CAN BLAME YOU FOR THAT!
I have NO sockpuppets or any fake names Duh! The authorities are monitoring this board and know who you are RUSSELL PUEL IN PA! Google him LMAO He is a writer! LOL He is a writer of Lies! I was asked if I knew you or your wife GLORIA PUEL Dummy! You are only digging yourself deep into a big mess I can not wait to see you fall LMAO!
I am very married ( 8 years now) to a CUBAN! Yeppers and a fine one at that! >> LIES>>>> LIES and get off your rear and get a job besides posting on internet! You are a true winner! :(
I am far from miserable! I am very Happy with my Life, Me and my family~~~ Cancer and All I Love my Life! I would not change anything but you and Puppy Mill Breeders Child molesters.Animal Abusers You get the idea right! I also hate STALKERS! So Please Stalk someone else!
I do not fall weak easy so Know thAT IN ADVANCE! i AM A FIGHTER UNTIL THE END! aSK MY ONCOLOGIST ! hE WILL TELL YOU THAT TOO!
So Have a Great Life Looser and try to do something more constructive with yourself very ugly self! :0

Update by voicefortheanimals
Feb 14, 2011 6:27 pm EST

Oh one last thing I am the Emcee is ALL shows LMAO! My babies are not in any show Ever LMAO! They stay in my arms at all times! Wrong information again!
And My newest baby is AKC and I am training for the show ring! :0 And he is also a Licensed therapy dog for children with Cancer and his first day of work was ? LMAO! And we were casted for a reality television show ! Stay tuned for show details! LOOSER!
Trust me you could never keep up with my life so Give up while you are ahead! Leave mine and my family alone before you become a writer for prison newspaper!

Update by voicefortheanimals
Feb 14, 2011 7:05 pm EST

So Russell ~~
Two can Tango~~
http://www.l8nytsimmer.webs.com/ I took a look around~~~~~ Ewwwww You are into some really freaky things! Vampires? Really I knew you were an odd one!
RUSSELL S PUEL Born 1953 married to GLORIA J PUEL Born 1951
311 RUN ST
CARNEGIE, PA 15106
03/2010
tel numbers are:? You want me to post your information I have so much more!

Update by voicefortheanimals
Jun 18, 2011 7:19 pm EDT

Really psonfeld~~~~~ look below another sick in bred dog from her disgusting shop!Nancy Petshack Chihuahuas — Sick puppies

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Donwuvy
none, US
Jan 17, 2011 3:47 am EST

Tattling, omg are you stupid have you read all of these complaints about these back yard breeders.

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KatherineM
Palm Beach, US
Jan 17, 2011 1:21 am EST

Hi Lista, Just wanted to let you know that I checked with the FL state board of nursing to verify your nursing license since you were representing yourself as a nurse instead of the CNA that you really are. Here is someimportant information for you to read.

Section 1. Subchapter D, Chapter 301, Occupations Code Section 301.1606.
(4)(d) Unless the person holds a license under this chapter or as a vocational nurse under Chapter 302, a person may not use, in connection with the person’s name: (1) the title "nurse"; or (2) any other designation tending to imply that the person is licensed to provide nursing care.

Section 301.415. Use of Certain Nursing Titles
Unless the person is practicing under the delegated authority of a registered nurse or is otherwise authorized by state or federal law, a person may not use, in connection with the person’s name: (1) the title" nurse aide", "nurse assistant", or" nurse technician" or (2) or any other similar title.
So unless you're being supervised by an RN, you can't even use the title of a nurse assistant/aide.
"The intent of restricting use of the title "nurse" is to protect the public from individuals who are not licensed nurses, yet deceitfully lead the public to believe they are and able to provide services that only nurses are qualified to provide. Nurse practice acts describe entry requirements, practice standards and codes of conduct with the intent of protecting the public against unethical, unscrupulous and incompetent practitioners. The regulation of nurses offers some assurance to the public that a nurse is competent to provide services in an effective and safe way. Restricting use of the title "nurse" to those who have satisfied the licensure requirements ensures protection the public deserves."
Your information is being forwarded to the nursing board.

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tysonhoyt
Unionville, US
Jan 16, 2011 6:40 pm EST

i have been using pinzoo for well over a year now for my att & t go phone and several other members of my family other then the first time where i did have to do a phone verification its been a breeze i have been able to use my paypal and my credit cards without any problems and have saved lots of money and the points i build up lets me save even more money i give pinzoo.com a AAA PLUS

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Adrienne Adams
Ware, US
Jan 16, 2011 4:59 pm EST

Wow, just wow. Let that be a lesson to us all. Papers in hand, dog in hand, before you give your hard earned money! I have had issues in the past, also. The days of dealing on good-will and a hand shake are over. However, most bullie owners and breeders are the salt of the earth and love the breed unconditionally and deeply.
But, why sell a pointed dog? Raises a red flag, dontcha think? Sometimes an economic hardship arises, but that is when word-of-mouth comes in. The rest of us can learn a lesson from your pain. Dot the "i's" and cross the "t's"

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Pet Shack Grooming
Winnsboro, US
Jan 15, 2011 11:57 pm EST

No the puppy she bought was fine until it was injured while in her home, I got the frantic call from her on way to vet. Did not hear from her again until she posted this dog which was not the puppy I sold her, She also knew from the start I did NOT breed that puppy, but I gave her my guarantee and it states " you must have report faxed to my vet" which still almost 1 yr later she has not.

As far as me stalking her, threatening her etc these are all lies made up in her head, I'm a business women and trust me I know better then that, but if you read some of her post she has done this to me many times, also she has stalked me, and yes she has hacked into my Yahoo mail { I have proof in hand}, nobody that I know what to get involved as she has stalked 3 other friends of mine & had made them leave FB { I have proof in emails} This is why she is now attacking Farrah's Chihuahuas & Tried with Lotsaluv, she is trouble with a Capital T!

I was told by a source Lista Lucy Faircloth said I would never get ride of her...sounds like stalking to me :) If she had a problem with a puppy I sold her from my shop that is one thing, but to post that I have 100 dogs, and to steal my pictures and make her own album and pass around with her own sayings, to Add my name in a link where a pit bull was hung & shot and was telling all I did this is really a bit over the edge.

Trust me she can type a good tune, but to know this person who I might say I have never meet nor has she ever been to my grooming shop is not what she seems to be! Lista Lucy Faircloth is a stalker & Lies and does very well at it. I wish she would take me to court it would save me money trust me! But afraid she does not want to as she knows I have to much on her in emails, Text's, calls, Photos, Posts and now have proof she is attached to my email Addy, she follows me around the web and will post, she has suggested for others to "turn me in" etc she has made it easy for some wacko to come & do harm to me or my pets. Trust me PLEASE take me to court!

this is a email I got in my INBOX... sure looks like she is attached to it !

And Pet Shack Of Northside has responded as follows:

"Lista Lucy Faircloth (birdsnflight2004@yahoo.com) { this is my email address} but not my name it is HERS!

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PALAW
Philadelphia, US
Jan 15, 2011 7:50 pm EST
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Voice I understand the frustration I deal with it all the time.. As I am to understand, you purchase a dog from shack and the dog was not to your satisfaction.. If this is the case why not just take it to small claims court in her state. You have the money and the resources. That would be the correct thing to do.. Because this cyber stalking is crossing some really fine lines that I am sure you already know about because I am sure if your lawyer is monitoring like you said in your past post he would advise you to stop. You made your point and that is that. I know the laws in PA are strick on this sort of thing and the other states are following suite.. I practice here in PA and you are really building a case for shack if she should decide to act on it. As I understand from the thread she has had people getting on her web sight and stalk her as a direct result of your postings. She as well has been posting your name and putting pics of up on here.. Though she has not really broken any laws she is on a fine line. Both of you are making threats and you both could get in to trouble.Good luck with your small claims case and stop this cyber stuff.

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PALAW
Philadelphia, US
Jan 15, 2011 6:45 pm EST
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Thats gross but funny what an artistic dog you have LOL.

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PALAW
Philadelphia, US
Jan 15, 2011 6:33 pm EST
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wow that was childish. Are you sure you are right in the head with that one. And you call your self an adult.. I have seen kids with more maturity. And if you get money for your looks they call that prostitution. And did you read any of the other posts. WOW. Stop this nonsense.. You seem more concerned with making personal attacks than you do with the welfare of the dogs. So what is it really with you are you defending the dogs or trying to help them or are you just on a hate campaign for these 2 ladies.. What is it.. At first I thought you cared about the pups. ? But I see that is not the real case. Holy Smackers

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PALAW
Philadelphia, US
Jan 15, 2011 5:29 pm EST
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WOW I have been going over this thread and it is crazy and out of control.. The only one that seems to have any sense is the poster that put up the information about the shelters and what the animals go through in those shelters. And as far as the laws go .. I have seen a few of them broken in this thread alone. ! Farrah, if you are on government assistance and you are getting money for your dogs you are breaking the law and government agencies do look at face book accounts and other related web sights. Lista what you are doing to this pet shack lady, amounts to cycler bulling and it is illegal in your state as well as hers. I know I do case studies on this very thing. And you can face fines and even jail time. If you or this Farrah are setting up FaceBook accounts in her name you can also be prosecuted. More and more laws are being inacted every day to prevent cyber bulling and the penalty for such acts are getting stiffer and stiffer. And to you petshack lady if you are running a puppy mill think about what the poster said about the shelters.. These are living breathing feeling beings and they should have more rights than they do.. But we as their care givers can make choices for them and they have to be good ones or these little critters lose their lives. This is just pure craziness and you all need to stop..

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stanupfortheanimals
none, US
Jan 15, 2011 8:57 am EST

"what is up with the name calling? do you know me I did not think so, if you hate your job so much get another one! We "Breeders" are not the reason for shelter dogs, I have a shelter not 1 mile away & I send people there all the time & I also adopt dogs from there myself that are on death row.. Ya the big Black Bully ones.. Rottweilers . so before you go on name calling maybe you need to group . I dont expect you to like me but I'mNot "Just" a dog breeder or a BYB, puppymill that PETA came up with... Im a business owner of a very busy Grooming shop" who are you kidding, stop spewing the lies, we are tired of it.

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Pet Shack Grooming
Winnsboro, US
Jan 15, 2011 4:53 am EST

My point to all of this DON’T BREED OR BUY WHILE SHELTER PETS DIE!Back yard breeders will tell you anything to make a buck off of one of there pups.Examlple, just read above post, by Pethag
what is up with the name calling? do you know me I did not think so, if you hate your job so much get another one! We "Breeders" are not the reason for shelter dogs, I have a shelter not 1 mile away & I send people there all the time & I also adopt dogs from there myself that are on death row.. Ya the big Black Bully ones.. Rottweilers . so before you go on name calling maybe you need to group . I dont expect you to like me but I'mNot "Just" a dog breeder or a BYB, puppymill that PETA came up with... Im a business owner of a very busy Grooming shop

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Pet Shack Grooming
Winnsboro, US
Jan 15, 2011 4:45 am EST

that is a very rare kid their... he is crossed eyed and was raised in NC

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sothernhicks
nonsville, US
Jan 14, 2011 6:23 pm EST

I think our society needs a huge “Wake-up” call. As a shelter manager, I am going to share a little insight with you all…a view from the inside if you will.

First off, all of you breeders/sellers should be made to work in the “back” of an animal shelter for just one day. Maybe if you saw the life drain from a few sad, lost, confused eyes, you would change your mind about breeding and selling to people you don’t even know.

That puppy you just sold will most likely end up in my shelter when it’s not a cute little puppy anymore. So how would you feel if you knew that there’s about a 90% chance that dog will never walk out of the shelter it is going to be dumped at? Purebred or not! About 50% of all of the dogs that are “owner surrenders” or “strays”, that come into my shelter are purebred dogs.

The most common excuses I hear are; “We are moving and we can’t take our dog (or cat).” Really? Where are you moving too that doesn’t allow pets? Or they say “The dog got bigger than we thought it would”. How big did you think a German Shepherd would get? “We don’t have time for her”. Really? I work a 10-12 hour day and still have time for my 6 dogs! “She’s tearing up our yard”. How about making her a part of your family? They always tell me “We just don’t want to have to stress about finding a place for her we know she’ll get adopted, she’s a good dog”.

Odds are your pet won’t get adopted & how stressful do you think being in a shelter is? Well, let me tell you, your pet has 72 hours to find a new family from the moment you drop it off. Sometimes a little longer if the shelter isn’t full and your dog manages to stay completely healthy. If it sniffles, it dies. Your pet will be confined to a small run/kennel in a room with about 25 other barking or crying animals. It will have to relieve itself where it eats and sleeps. It will be depressed and it will cry constantly for the family that abandoned it. If your pet is lucky, I will have enough volunteers in that day to take him/her for a walk. If I don’t, your pet won’t get any attention besides having a bowl of food slid under the kennel door and the waste sprayed out of its pen with a high-powered hose. If your dog is big, black or any of the “Bully” breeds (pit bull, rottie, mastiff, etc) it was pretty much dead when you walked it through the front door.

Those dogs just don’t get adopted. It doesn’t matter how ‘sweet’ or ‘well behaved’ they are.

If your dog doesn’t get adopted within its 72 hours and the shelter is full, it will be destroyed. If the shelter isn’t full and your dog is good enough, and of a desirable enough breed it may get a stay of execution, but not for long . Most dogs get very kennel protective after about a week and are destroyed for showing aggression. Even the sweetest dogs will turn in this environment. If your pet makes it over all of those hurdles chances are it will get kennel cough or an upper respiratory infection and will be destroyed because shelters just don’t have the funds to pay for even a $100 treatment.

Here’s a little euthanasia 101 for those of you that have never witnessed a perfectly healthy, scared animal being “put-down”.

First, your pet will be taken from its kennel on a leash. They always look like they think they are going for a walk happy, wagging their tails. Until they get to “The Room”, every one of them freaks out and puts on the brakes when we get to the door. It must smell like death or they can feel the sad souls that are left in there, it’s strange, but it happens with every one of them. Your dog or cat will be restrained, held down by 1 or 2 vet techs depending on the size and how freaked out they are. Then a euthanasia tech or a vet will start the process. They will find a vein in the front leg and inject a lethal dose of the “pink stuff”. Hopefully your pet doesn’t panic from being restrained and jerk. I’ve seen the needles tear out of a leg and been covered with the resulting blood and been deafened by the yelps and screams. They all don’t just “go to sleep”, sometimes they spasm for a while, gasp for air and defecate on themselves.

When it all ends, your pets corpse will be stacked like firewood in a large freezer in the back with all of the other animals that were killed waiting to be picked up like garbage. What happens next? Cremated? Taken to the dump? Rendered into pet food? You’ll never know and it probably won’t even cross your mind. It was just an animal and you can always buy another one, right?

I hope that those of you that have read this are bawling your eyes out and can’t get the pictures out of your head I deal with everyday on the way home from work.

I hate my job, I hate that it exists & I hate that it will always be there unless you people make some changes and realize that the lives you are affecting go much farther than the pets you dump at a shelter.

Between 9 and 11 MILLION animals die every year in shelters and only you can stop it. I do my best to save every life I can but rescues are always full, and there are more animals coming in everyday than there are homes.

My point to all of this DON’T BREED OR BUY WHILE SHELTER PETS DIE!Back yard breeders will tell you anything to make a buck off of one of there pups.Examlple, just read above post, by Pethag

Pet Shack Grooming
Pet Shack Grooming
Winnsboro, US
Jan 14, 2011 5:58 pm EST

16 hrs 40 mins ago by dantheman12 0 Votes

http://www.yourpurebredpuppy.com/buying/articles/petshops-and-pet-stores.html TRUTH BE TOLD.

You have no clue what I do or who I'am ...LMAO
I have a "Pet Shop" lic so I can bring in any pet & accept rescues in my shop, I DO not buy dogs/puppies or birds. I breed my own and would not have it any other way, I do accept some in to be sold out of my shop but only puppies I myself would buy, and I charge a $50 flat fee to seller. I have my shop that I started from scratch { thank you :), out of all the puppies I have sold Miss Faircloth is the first with any issues with me, and at this time I have no clue what they are .. she has jumped around on so many issues I bet she forgot also.
Why with all the breeders on her FB page Lista Lucy Faircloth has beef with 2, Lista DOES breed chihuahuas & Doixes & also Chewinnies, and SELLS them .. before you all jump on Lista's little wagon check her out & good! You will be very surprised. I have proved a few things such as Lista Lucy Faircloth was a Nail tech, & Lista Ann "Lucy" Faircloth is a Nurse assistant .. not a NURSE huge difference Lista is such a "wanna be" it is sad. And if Lista was married to a Cuban you think her name would be "Faircloth"... LOL does not take a surgeon to figure this clown out. Lista Lucy Faircloth is not better then you or I, Lista lives in a dream world and wants to feel special ... does not fly with me and those who really know her. Lista Lucy Ann Faircloth is trouble, drama queen, Liar & very jealous. Lista Lucy Faircloth did not start to rescue Until she saw that I was, Lista thought she would become a "star" if she did that as she knows how many I was saving & placing into homes and also breeding my own, I place a rescue before I sell one of my own . Lista Lucy Faircloth was upset because I did not give her one of my 20 rescued Chihuahuas last March/10 .. for her to use for breeding I place all into homes within 3 weeks and Lista's was not one of them nor will one ever go to her. I have never meet this women { never in person} & crossed paths with her, LIsta Lucy Faircloth is nothing but lies and has stalked me for 11mths now!
This has gotten real old, have to add I find it strange that on FB Lista is involved with breeders & on Myspace she is involved with rescues.. and different names .. Hmmm think twice before sending a dog her way, I have copies of where Lista stepped up to rescue a dog only to collect the $'s and dog stayed in shelter & was PTL ask around on FB about her many warnings not to get involved with Lista Lucy Faircloth we have not figured her out 100% . if you are a rescue or breeder run from Miss Lista Lucy Faircloth!

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Pet Shack Grooming
Winnsboro, US
Jan 14, 2011 5:34 pm EST

this lady flew in from Cali just 1 week ago and took back 2 of my babies, in fact she stayed extra days because she could not decide which 2 she wanted to take back on plane with her, I will hide her name to protect her from this slandering that you are doing here ...

{name protected} Stupid is as stupid does...Are we sure this is not her house {lista}and how she keeps her pets? I KNOW it is NOT Nancy's...been there, seen hers, been loved and climbed on by all her dogs! Someone is truly lying through their teeth! And should pay the penalty for such heinous acts...IMHO...

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Pet Shack Grooming
Winnsboro, US
Jan 14, 2011 2:16 am EST

pretty sorry whoever this is.

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Pet Shack Grooming
Winnsboro, US
Jan 14, 2011 2:15 am EST

are you kidding me, you guys have gone over the edge

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dantheman12
puny stock, US
Jan 14, 2011 1:02 am EST

real nice setup you have there Nancy.If that doesn't look like a puppy mill, i don't know what does.

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dantheman12
puny stock, US
Jan 14, 2011 12:53 am EST

http://www.yourpurebredpuppy.com/buying/articles/petshops-and-pet-stores.html TRUTH BE TOLD.

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dantheman12
puny stock, US
Jan 14, 2011 12:51 am EST

My new breeding pet.i will breed her every heat cycle, and sell the babies for at least $500 each.i will be rich..lol.

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dantheman12
puny stock, US
Jan 14, 2011 12:43 am EST

You should use that money to have your teeth & hair done...So you have another 20 to try and sell, thanks you dirty ### rag, for adding to the problem, very cheap dogs, i might say, out where i live chis sell for $1000.Must because yours are special...lol

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Pet Shack Grooming
Winnsboro, US
Jan 14, 2011 12:37 am EST

It is :), Sold 4 today .. and they where very pleased with my shop & puppies

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Pet Shack Grooming
Winnsboro, US
Jan 13, 2011 10:34 pm EST

ILOVELUCYFANINFL... make me sick to my stomach! All lies, bet this was posted by you Lista! Why would you beg for money for YOUR vets bills on FB? I have copy of it. :) you are a very sick person Lista, and feel a bit sorry for you.

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ILOVELUCYFANINFL
Palm Beach Shores, US
Jan 13, 2011 4:24 pm EST

Wow what a disgusting thread. I have to say that my friend told me to take a look at this and I am so glad i did.
I happen to know Lista and her wonderful family on a personal level for over 20 years and you could not be more wrong inyour commentsabout her!
She is a giver not a taker and will do anything to help another.She has always been that way and so is her father.
Yes she was a nurse for my mom before she died and that was over 10 years ago and I am so glad to have had her as the nurse.. She is caring compassionate and will go out of her way for others, even strangers.
She has not been in nursing for many years now but i wish sh ewas because now it is my Dad now.
why don't you find someone else to bash because you will loose on the end with her I assure you. Her family and her are very respected in our area and they definitely know the law.I am sure you will be sorry doing this to their family.be smart and backoff because you are only making yourselflook bad and it will affect your business.
Lista's famliy definitely does not hurtfor money so obviously you do nnot know them at all. Her Grandfather was a millionaire in case you did not know.This is why sh eis a volunteer everywhere she works, Sh ehas akways said "I wanttogive back" I tol dher to get off this nasty thread andtake care of it the way she has. I promise you, Your day is coming both of you.
She is the best Lucy impersonator I have ever seen andI haveseen a few in my day. She is a celebrity in our area I assure you of that, Come to an event andyou will see how much people enjoy her character before you start running around with your lies. Take care I am sure we will be meeting soon. :)

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Ihatepuppymills
Georgetown, US
Jan 13, 2011 12:04 pm EST

Adopt don't Shop ... period! Millions are killed every year stop breeding!
http://www.brightlion.com/1832.html

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urallnuts
los angels, US
Jan 13, 2011 4:39 am EST

Zac, you are so correct.Her dogs are not show quality.She is a pet shop, what does that tell you.Her beastly friend Farrah does the same ###, but she still lives home with mommy, and her puppies support her, because she cant get her fat ### out and get a job.Have you seen what she breeds...worse then Pethags.

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copper00
bev hills, US
Jan 13, 2011 2:30 am EST

forgot the bybs pic..

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copper00
bev hills, US
Jan 13, 2011 2:28 am EST

Vote ### on the back of this back yard breeders head.she needs a washing anyway..lol

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Pet Shack Grooming
Winnsboro, US
Jan 13, 2011 2:15 am EST

That is my point :)

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fox24nak8
Long Beach, US
Jan 13, 2011 1:25 am EST
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Thank you JDH55! God this Nancy ### pisses me off!

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fox24nak8
Long Beach, US
Jan 13, 2011 1:20 am EST
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In response to Nancy's, "I'M A DOG BREEDER". What a bunch of ###ing ###! Where in the hell do you get off saying that we animal rights activists rather see all animals dead than to see them happy? Where did you get that information? You didn't find it in your crack pipe, did you?

WHAT IN THE HELL HAVE I BEEN TALKING ABOUT HERE IN MY LAST 3 POSTS? Can you give it one guess for Christ's sake? WHILE THERE IS 1 PET DYING IN A SHELTER, ALL BREEDING IS IRRESPONSIBLE ! How is this wanting to see animals die. I'm trying to encourage you not to breed dogs, so that the ones in shelters, sitting on death row have at least half a chance to find a forever home. I'M TRYING TO SAVE LIVES HERE !

What in the ### is the matter with you? You know the more and more you open your redneck white trash mouth, spewing your ###ed up "I'M A DOG BREEDER" bullcrap . . . The more I want to slap the ### out of your face! You need to have that brainless head of yours checked, because you are sounding more stupid by the post.

SHUT THE ### UP YOU LOSER! You should be ashamed of yourself. How dare you say, "They say that I sell them for money and exploit them for personal gain. I PLEAD "GUILTY" TO ALL OF THE CHARGES. KNOW WHAT ELSE? I DON'T FEEL GUILTY, NOT EVEN A LITTLE BIT. I DO IT. I LIKE IT. I FEEL GOOD ABOUT IT"? You make me sick, you should be put out of your misery lady!

Answer just one question for me please Nancy, and I'll promise to leave you alone and go away. Will you do that for me "Petshack"? Answer this . . . . WHAT ABOUT ALL THE HUNDREDS OF ANIMALS IN SHELTERS THAT ARE DYING EACH & EVERYDAY, WHAT ABOUT THEM ? WHAT ABOUT THEM !

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fox24nak8
Long Beach, US
Jan 13, 2011 12:51 am EST
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WHILE THERE IS 1 PET DYING IN A SHELTER, ALL BREEDING IS IRRESPONSIBLE ! Just about says it all people!

To JDH55, where do you get your pics? They are too much! Funny funny stuff. Lmfao again!

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stupidassbybs666
none, US
Jan 12, 2011 11:51 pm EST

And thanks for letting me and all my rescue facebook friends aware of you two.

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stupidassbybs666
none, US
Jan 12, 2011 11:47 pm EST

I DO NOT LISTA ADVERTISING CUTE LITTLE CHIS ALL DRESSED UP TO MAKE THEM LOOK CUTER, TO INTISE SOMEONE TO BUY A POORLY BRED CHI.YOU AND YOUR CHUBBY PAL FARRAH ARE DISGUEITING, AND YOUR FACEBOOKS ARE DEF. BYBS SITES.

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stupidassbybs666
none, US
Jan 12, 2011 11:45 pm EST

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30Backyard breeder?
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deanfamilyzoo asked:

I hear alot of people throw around the slang “backyard breeder”. Ive read many many posts regarding their vile selfish money grubbing nature. I even read one question seeking a new name for them so that irresponsible pet owners would be more willing to own up to their dirty deeds and actually consider themselves one. I read alot of really nasty comments. I saw alot of name calling and blaming. I noticed many long lists detailing what they are, what they do and why they deserve the worst corridors of hades. What I have NOT seen is a list of things that qualify breeders as “responsible” or “professional”. Please enlighten the uneducated masses and explain what defines one, versus the other.

GRADY
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9 Responses to “Backyard breeder?”

■♥ DP ♥ on December 1st, 2009 8:00 pm
It’s been done.. Search thru some old questions to find out what constitutes a good and responsible breeder.
■Nandina on December 1st, 2009 11:09 pm
A responsible breeder

1) Breeds for a reason — to improve the breed.
2) Each litter is carefully considered before being created.
3) Any animal used for breeding is thoroughly checked for health problems before being bred.
4) Any animal used for breeding is proven in some way to have the abilities and other characteristics essential to the breed.
5) Keeps at least one puppy in each litter for his/her breeding program (otherwise, what was the purpose of the breeding)
6) Thoroughly evaluates potential puppy buyers to be sure each puppy is put into a good home
7) Requires that puppies not to be used for breeding be neutered. Encourages all puppy owners to test their puppies for various health probelms and report them back to the breeder so that the breeder has a broad as well as a deep knowledge of what is in his/her lines.
9) Takes back any dog he/she ever bred if that dog loses its home
10) Is honest about the various setbacks their breeding program may have suffered.
11) Is deeply knoweldgeable about the breed’s, history, original purpose, weaknesses and strengths.
12) Is willing to refuse to sell a puppy to a family that is unsuited to the breed.
13) Provides advice, feedback, and other help to people who have purchased a puppy from him/her.
14) Is willing to recommend to a family that adopting an adult dog of the breed might be a better option for them and helps them find a rescue group.
■sadiejane on December 5th, 2009 1:14 am
responsible breeders - do not breed for money, infact loose money on a litter. they only breed to better the breed or their chosen particular line

do not sell until puppies are at least 12 weeks old
has both parents tested for genetic health conditions
do not ship puppies
often do home checks
have approved homes before the litter is even bred
■kinn2him on December 7th, 2009 9:45 am
the answers above are excellent… i just wanted to note that some “responsible” breeders breed in their back yard… but they have equipped their backyard to properly breed, house and care for the dogs they have and expect
■zappataz on December 10th, 2009 6:28 pm
Good Point, here’s my list of what makes a breeder a responsible one.
1. They prove their breeding stock in both conformation and some type of performace event (herding, obedience..)
2. They only breed to better the breed…not for the money
3. They only breed healthy, genetically tested dogs for the breed (i.e, OFA hips, OFA elbows, patellas, heart, eyes..etc)
4. They are there for the LIFETIME of the puppy. They are willing to take back what they are responsible for putting on the face of this earth, at any time, for any reason, during the dogs life.
5. They care about what kind of homes their puppies go to, often asking a potential buyer to fill out a questionnaire, and perhaps a home visit. And they want referrals…..They don’t care who comes up with the money first, , , , what they care about is whether or not that dog will have the very best home and love and care.

Being a responsible breeder means caring about not only your personal dogs, but the breed as a whole. Think of responsible breeders as guardians of their chosen breed.
I’ve been very fortunate in that I’ve got great breeders standing behind my dogs, including the ones that I show for clients….These people have become lifetime friends and mentors, and I wouldn’t have met them if not for my dogs.
■yeehaneeha on December 11th, 2009 4:56 am
Backyard breeder:
A backyard breeder usually doesn’t have a lot of knowledge about dogs or the breed that they are breeding. Thy breed for the money and not to better the breed. They sometimes breed mixed dogs and sell them for a lot of money. They don’t know much about breeding dogs and will sell puppies to anyone with money.

Responsible breeder:
Responsible breeders have had a lot of experience with dogs, usually have trained dogs for many years before starting to breed. They reaserch the breed and are very knowledgable. They Xray their dogs and have blood work done to make sure that they’re dogs are healthy and fit. They keep tabs on the people who buy their dogs to make sure that they puppies are in a good and safe home. Most people have to fill out an application before they can get a dog. They usually show their dogs or have in the past. They want to better the breed.
■Bonsylar on December 13th, 2009 5:30 am
Breeding is, in and of itself, irresponsible!

While there is 1 pet dying in a shelter ALL BREEDING IS IRRESPONSIBLE.

DON’T BREED OR BUY WHILE SHELTER ANIMALS DIE!

Also, no one is going to label themselves as a wrong doer. When you were talking about a different terms for different types of breeders, you mention the irresponsible breeders will call themselves something so everyone will know they are monsters. NOT GONNA HAPPEN.

Cheers.
■Shadow's Melon on December 15th, 2009 7:31 am
Here’s a link to a site that shows some differences between the byb and the reputable.

Backyard breeders don’t have what is considered an ethical reason to breed. Reputable breeders do. The reputable breeder:

1) breeds to improve the breed
2) does not breed before having the people lined up for the puppies they will produce… often more people waiting than puppies available
3) shows their dog in conformation or at least earning working titles in what their breed was meant to do
4) does all genetic testing on their dogs, not just “health checks” to ensure their dogs do not have any genetic issues that will pass on to the pups… if a dog shows to have an issue, they will not breed that dog
5) they require a spay/neuter contract on their pet quality pups and if a show quality pup is going to a novice home, they will have a hand in it and mentor the “newbie” to the show world
6) they will take back a dog they have produced at any time, any age, for any reason, as they care about the pups they have produced and do not want to see their lines ever end up in shelter or rescue
7) they thoroughly screen all potential puppy buyers to ensure their breed will actually be a good match for that family and they maintain a line of communication and support to the buyer for the lifetime of the puppy… basically, they do all they can to ensure that pup never has to be rehomed.

There’s a lot more to describe a good breeder. Backyard breeders don’t even come close to this. Many go into it with good intentions and they simply don’t take the time to self educate and realize what they are doing is the source of the overpopulation problem. I believe I saw a website today that stated 60% of the dogs in shelter and rescue came from bybs.

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Pet Shack Grooming
Winnsboro, US
Jan 12, 2011 11:44 pm EST

why you preaching this to me on my complaint form...lol you need to talk to Lista Lucy Ann Faircloth as she my friend is a BYB & Puppymill 100% she has 3 dogs from my lines that are NOT fixed and have been bred, also has 3 litters on the ground. I said "I'm a dog breeder" and I'm proud of it and she is very much jealous.. as why else would she want another one from my lines... go figure & will NEVER happen! Ask her how many dogs she has unfixed? and she lives in city limits..hmmmmm maybe that is why she will not say!

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Pet Shack Grooming
Winnsboro, US
Jan 12, 2011 11:40 pm EST

stupidassbybs666 ..LOL how do you keep up with all the fake names on here & the ones in your head? very time consuming, as I work for my self and have plenty of time, I 'am my own boss and take off when I want unlike you who have to clean butts & empty bed pans.. as YOU are NOT a Nurse, nor do you work for the Gov. .. you my friend are a Nurse asst. Next your gonna say you are a .. hmmm who knows I have to laugh though I must say!

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stupidassbybs666
none, US
Jan 12, 2011 11:37 pm EST

Backyard Breeder - what does it really mean...
BACKYARD BREEDERS-

So, what is a backyard breeder?

"The average pet owner that breeds their dog(s)."

Doesn't sound so terrible... true, but still not optimum. This is when a person has a pet dog, who for one reason or another is not a breeding quality dog (wrong body conformation, wrong head shape, teeth alignment, eye color, or is otherwise not perfectly "healthy" (hernia or the like) and should not be bred. Either they think their dog is "cute and should have puppies" or want to try to make back their purchase price so they breed them anyways. Generally they are not necessarily from healthy breeding stock, they can come from lines that have cancers, thyroid issues, allergies, bad hips (dysplasia), heart conditions and the list goes on and on. By-passing this important health testing is like playing russian roulette. You never know what the tendencies are in the pups. Temperament issues (aggression, anxiety) are also genetically transferred, so if you breed a dog with these issues, you can also pass them on to the puppies.

The problem with the backyard breeder isn't lack of caring, it is that lack of knowledge kills dogs.

Backyard breeders or BYB usually do not have bad intentions, per se. The majority are not the "evil", cruel", or "greedy" images we envision when we hear the term "BYB" or "backyard breeder". However, this does not minimize the very real risks and consequences to the breed and their pups, rather, the harm they do is done through ignorance - ignorance of the breed, of canine genetics, of health, and of well being and welfare. Backyard breeders are not experts on the breed. They are typically breeding pet quality dogs. They do not have the dogs screened for genetic defects and cannot guarantee the health and temperament of the puppies.

Most "backyard breeders" have no idea that their dog can appear to be healthy, yet can pass on serious genetic disease. Most have never heard of sexually transmitted diseases in dogs. And most sincerely believe that they can find good homes, but they have no idea how to make that real enough to protect their dogs from dying in shelters. The problem with backyard breeders is that they add dogs to the population without taking any steps to help reduce the numbers with serious genetic disease, and failing to know how to protect their dogs from ending up in shelters. So their dogs die.

Back yard breeders may act on a desire to make extra money, or simply out of ignorance. Sometimes back yard breeders will breed so "their children can experience the miracle of birth", or they mistakenly believe "every dog should have one litter", or "it was an accident". They may think their dog is so cute, he/she would make wonderful puppies, with little or no thought for the homes to which their puppies will go. Other back yard breeders see how much money legitimate breeders charge for pups and figure they could make some "easy money" too.

Back yard breeders usually bring two breeding animals together regardless of their quality. They are not interested in scientific breeding. Their aim is to fulfill a personal need or goal, not to improve the breed and bring excellent quality dogs to the world.

In spite of all of this, getting a pup from a back yard breeder is still a gamble, for the following reasons:

* the parents likely have not been screened for health problems
* puppies usually are not sold with contracts or any form of health gaurantee
* the breeders are not in it for the long haul, and won't be willing or able to take back the puppy if something goes wrong
* They will be working on new personal objectives in five years when your pet has a problem and you need help.

Although you may pay less for the breed of your choice from a backyard breeder, it's almost a given that in the long run, you'll pay a good deal more in vet bills and perhaps emotional bills (if the dog has to be euthanized due to a health or temperament problem), than you would from a reputable breeder.

Another thing to consider is where the backyard breeder got their breeding stock from in the first place. Since ethical breeders always sell pet puppies on a mandatory spay neuter clause, only two options exist:

* the ### has been bred without the knowledge of the seller, meaning this litter was born unregisterable and illegally. In some cases, breeders who have learned of litters born without their consent to dogs they have sold as pets have sued and won the right to reclaim any and all puppies sold. This means you could become embroiled in a costly, potentially emotionally devastating lawsuit.

* the ### and/or stud themselves came from another Back Yard Breeder, a petstore, a puppy mill or broker and most likely is of questionable genetic/health history.

Some people argue that dogs bred as pets don’t have to be show quality. Technically, they don’t; however, breeding dogs with possible faults can result in repercussions worse than a less-than-perfect dog.

People choose a specific breed based on qualities that are well-known within that breed. For instance:

* A German shepherd is hard-working and protective.
* A pug has a short muzzle and is a bit of a show-off.
* A border collie is an intelligent herder that weighs around 30-45 pounds.

But when someone breeds two dogs that are below standard, the resulting puppies will have unexpected qualities in both physique and attitude.

* A German shepherd that snaps and bites.
* A pug with an undiagnosed elongated palette that causes death during routine surgery.
* A border collie that is hyperactive, weighs 65 pounds, and is disobedient.

These puppies become members of the breed by name alone.

Even worse than character flaws, substandard breeding can result in genetic issues. If the parents aren’t tested for genetic defects, these problems can be passed on to the puppies, causing future health issues, pain, and expensive surgeries.

Every year, families must cope as their pets suffer from diseases such as hip dysplasia, hearing problems and deafness, progressive retinal atrophy leading to blindness, cardiomyopathy, and numerous other genetic disorders and conditions.

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stupidassbybs666
none, US
Jan 12, 2011 11:34 pm EST

So, why are back yard breeders a problem? Well, they just breed dogs for the sake of it. They may have a sweet pet they want to try and reproduce or they think that their dogs are quality because they have papers and/or are registered with some registry. They think maybe they can make a few dollars selling pups, etc. They just put out dogs without real consideration for the future of not only the breed but the puppies produced.

Often, BYBs breed dogs with faults. This perpetuates fault and problems in the breed. They do nothing to prove their dogs are of sound temperament and that they are breeding good representatives of the breed, etc. They just breed. And often, they do not even breed purebreds. Some BYBs "create" neat sounding things and think they are breeds - like Dalimers. This was seen listed in the Washington Post as a rare, German breed. Well, they are mutts - crosses of Dalmatians and Weimeraners, nothing more than a back yarder trying to make a buck

But many people who show and breed dogs do so from their homes? How do you know is a breeder is good or not? Through EDUCATION and ASKING questions. These questions will help you out:

"Sadly, not all people professing to be reputable and responsible breeders are. A good breeder will all but interrogate you. You should also have the chance to question the breeder. If you are not sure or uneasy with an answer, do not hesitate to ask for an explanation. If at any time you get an uneasy feeling or just are not satisfied, look elsewhere. A few things to ask about are:

1. What is the asking price of the puppies? Some breeders will ask the same for pet quality and show potential puppies. Compare prices with other breeders of the same breed and if the price is considerably higher or lower do not hesitate to ask why. Do not hesitate to ask why if there is a big difference in pet and show pups. Unless there is a visible disqualification or the puppy visibly will not be showing potential, the younger the pup the harder it is to determine show quality. A person who really knows the breed can have a good idea what pups have show POTENTIAL and what may not. Much happens while the puppy grows and that eight week show prospect may not be show potential at 9 months! And avoid ANY breeder who charges different for males or females or who charges extra if you want a pedigree or registration. It is not that expensive to register a litter so the potential owners can individually register puppies. (Many kennel clubs like the AKC require all litters to be registered by the breeder. Then papers are sent out that are given to buyers of puppies so the owner can register them in their name).

2. What health tests have been done on BOTH parents of the litter? Any dog should have hips (OFA or PennHip), eyes (CERF) and ideally thyroid prior to breeding. Then is up to you as potential buyer to know what other tests the breed you are looking at should have. Even crossbred puppies are prone to hereditary health issues and parents should be tested prior to breeding for anything common within the two breeds crossed. Though a reputable breeder will NOT cross as the predicability in outcome is less and there are too many negligent litters of crossbred pups from unaltered pets. The breeder should be able to show documentation of all tests and do not hesitate to verify the results. Do not blindly accept their word – some dishonest breeders will lie and say all tests have been done. And if the breeder says there is nothing in the line so testing is not important, avoid this person as well. Some health problems are polygenetic (more than one set of genes involved – not a simple dominant/recessive). Some health problems take years to show fully or may be there but not showing outwardly. For example, some dysplastic dogs never show signs of having it and it is only diagnosed upon testing.

3. What temperament testing and socialization has been done? Granted, young puppies should not leave the property due to a growing immune system; however, the breeder should expose the puppies to as many things as possible like vacuum cleaners, children, house sounds, etc. The older the puppy, the more experiences it should have. Has the breeder temperament tested and what method was used? A good breeder will help match the right personality to you. If you are a quiet family and the breeder pushes a dominant pup on you, leave. On the other hand, if you like the look of one puppy and the breeder, after interviewing you, decides it is not the right match, respect that.

4. What goals does the breeder have with the breeding program and how does the breeder go about to achieve this? If the breeder breeds just to produce more dogs, for pets only or anything that does not go towards the bettering of the breeder's lines and the breed as a whole, go elsewhere. And if the breeder breeds for working ability first, you could end up with a handful! Look for one who breeds for companionship as well as type and working ability – unless you are looking exclusively for a working dog.

5. What does the breeder feel are the strengths and weaknesses in the breed and the breeder's program? The breeder should be open with you about the program and where they hope to go with it. Avoid the breeder who insists there are no better dogs around then his.

6. Can you see the pedigrees of both sire and dam? Can you see at least the dam on premises? The sire may not be on site but the dam should be. If not, you could be dealing with a broker (one who sells dogs not bred by that person).

7. What type of contract does the breeder have for pet or show puppies (it should include a spay/neuter agreement and health guarantee)? Do not get pressured into becoming contracted to show or breed your dog – even if you do plan to show and possibly get into breeding someday. Everything should be spelled out in the contract. And be wary of a breeder sells you a young puppy that is "definitely show quality." So much happens during growth and development – the younger the puppy; the harder it is to tell show quality. A breeder who really knows the breed can tell if a young pup has POTENTIAL but should not be guaranteeing the dog will be a show dog. Another red flag is the breeder who has no written contract at all. All puppies whether pet or show potential should be sold with a written contract.

8. What does the breeder feed the puppies? You want to try and keep the puppies on the same brand of food. If the breeder uses something you do not, gradually wean the puppy to your preferred brand.

9. What inoculations have been given? Eight-week-old puppies should have had their first set of inoculations and you should be given documentation of this. If not, go elsewhere. If the puppies have no boosters prior to leaving the dam, look elsewhere.

10. Can you get references of previous puppy buyers? If the breeder will not give them, go elsewhere.

11. Can you have your own vet examine the puppy before you fully commit? You may be asked to put down a deposit but you should have the option of having your vet examine the puppy with in a couple days after purchase (always a good idea to have this done and the breeder may require it).

12. Are you active in any breed clubs (all breed or ideally breed specialty)? Many clubs have a breeder code of ethics that they want their members to adhere to. Just being AKC registered is not a Good Housekeeping Seal of Approval. It just means the puppy was from registered parents and the breeder has taken the steps to begin the registration process for the puppies. Even pet stores can sell AKC registered pups if the miller registers the dogs. The AKC cannot police everyone professing to be a breeder so again, being and educated consumer is very important.

Use your gut instinct and do not get suckered by cute faces or sob stories. Remember, this pup will be yours for the next ten years or much longer depending on breed. You should get the best possible puppy possible from the most responsible source you can find should you go the breeder route.

Many of these questions can be adapted to ask at a rescue as well. Do not hesitate to ask what is know about the background of the puppies (or adult dog), what medical care they have had and has the staff noticed anything about their temperaments that could be of concern? Ask about the adoption agreement and have it gone through carefully with you."

No part of this article may be reproduced without written permission from Karen Peak

© by West Wind Dog Training, [protected]
No Puppy Mills, VA 2003

A good breeder takes a LIFETIME interest in ALL dogs produced. They want to know how your dog does in it's new home, love getting calls and cards from you and are always there to advise you of a problem comes up. If a medical condition crops up, they want to know so if it is potentially hereditary, they can alter the program and try to stop the problem in future generations. A good breeder is a mentor and best friend to all buyers and dogs they produced. And a good breeder will sell with a spay/neuter contract or alter the puppy or dog before placement!

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Pet Shack Grooming
Winnsboro, US
Jan 12, 2011 11:31 pm EST

I'M A DOG BREEDER!
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In today's world, if you use these words, people look at you like you're a harlot. Even some of our own peers call us names like "puppy mill" or "backyard breeder". If we reply that we are a "hobby breeder, " someone immediately asks how we can consider living creatures a hobby. Some of us try the word "fancier". We fool no one. The most pathetic response to the question is when we call ourselves "responsible breeders." Responsible to whom? Who defines "responsible" and "irresponsible?" Some bureaucrat? A politician? Animal rights cretins who say there is no such thing as a responsible breeder? Animal rights fanatics would rather kill all animals than see someone love them. In fact, that's their plan. If we say we are not breeders, it makes us "pet hoarders." We are tarred as mentally ill people in need of psychotherapy.
The entire language about dog ownership has been hijacked by the rhetoric of the animal rights movement. The worst part is that we have allowed it to happen. We have people in our midst that embrace this movement and try to beat everyone else down by trying to make us ashamed of the role we play. You know the ones I'm talking about. You see them on different "lists" and "forums" always beating people up and putting them down for their efforts to breed that always elusive "perfect specimen". Their favorite slams are "How many dogs do you have?" or "How many litters do you produce a year?". They boast of only breeding one litter "just to have something to show" and "every puppy in the litter finished their championship". But then you find that these "perfect specimens" they produced had to be shown by politically correct professional handlers to very political Judges to accumulate those championship points. And you see these "Champions" skipping around the ring on three legs or hopping like bunny rabbits because their hips and legs can't carry them. This is NOT dog breeding, folks.
I am sick and tired of watching dog owners constantly apologize for who we are and what we do. Let me state clearly and for the record: I am a dog breeder. I breed dogs. I raise puppies. I like it. I'm very proud of it. And if you don't like it, you are free to take a flying leap. I don't care what you think of me or what I do. I raise Chihuahuas! I breed several litters a year. I wish I could raise more puppies, but can't figure out how to do it without driving myself into bankruptcy. My dogs work for a living, just like I do. They have to be good at their jobs, just like I do. If they aren't good at their jobs, I don't keep them and I certainly don't breed them. They are show dogs, and they have to be able to perform to a very demanding standard of excellence to be worthy of breeding. They have to meet the exacting standard of championship quality performance in the toughest competition. They acquire their wins on their own merit by owner/handlers while pitted against professional handlers and political judges. They are professional athletes. Most of them do not make the cut. Those dogs make wonderful companions or family members.
I have never had a dog spayed or neutered, except for medical reasons, and I don't intend to start now. If a dog is good enough for me to keep, it is good enough to breed. Nor have I ever sold a puppy on a spay/neuter contract. With performance dogs, it takes at least 2 years to know what you have. There is no way that anyone can know the full potential or worthiness of a young puppy. I hope every puppy that I sell will become a great one that is worthy of being bred. On occasion, I have a puppy that has a serious flaw. I don't sell those puppies, even though they would make many people very happy. I give them away free to good homes, and the definition of a good home is mine because it's my puppy. I own it. You don't. My responsibility is to the puppy. It is not to you and it's not to some breed club or gelatinous glob called "society". I consider myself to be personally responsible for every puppy I raise, from birth until the day it dies. It always has a home in my kennel, if it's new owner can't keep it or no longer wants it. That's a contract written in blood between the puppy and me. It's mine! I made it!
By now I assume I've pushed all of the buttons of the animal rights crazies and the e-mail lists slashers. They are calling me an exploiter of animals. They are saying that I ruthlessly cull and manipulate the genetics of my dogs. They say that I make the exploited poor beasts work for a living and live up to impossible standards. They say that I sell them for money and exploit them for personal gain. I PLEAD "GUILTY" TO ALL OF THE CHARGES. KNOW WHAT ELSE? I DON'T FEEL GUILTY, NOT EVEN A LITTLE BIT. I DO IT. I LIKE IT. I FEEL GOOD ABOUT IT.
Now I will speak in my own defense-- as a dog breeder. I happen to love dogs. I love being around them. I love working with them. I love watching a puppy grow up and discover its potential. I love having the privilege of experiencing a truly great dog in it's prime. I love sharing supper with my dogs, wrestling with puppies, and sacking out with them on the couch. I lose sleep when they get sick, and work myself unmercifully to care for them. I spend almost all the money I have on them, and some money I don't have. My heart breaks when they grow old and die. I have a dozen lifetimes worth of beautiful memories. My life is filled with love and joy and beauty, and I owe most of it to my dogs. They have helped to keep me sane when sanity was not a given. They have given me courage on the days when all I wanted to do was die down and quit. They have given me strength to endure on the days when all I wanted to do was run away and hide. I owe them my life. The animal rights folk are right. I ruthlessly cull and manipulate genetics. To make the cut, my breeding dogs have had to live up to the most exacting possible standards and pass the most strenuous tests. I am proud of doing that!The result is that the vast majority of people who buy a puppy from me love it. When I sell a puppy, chances are that it has found a home for the rest of its life. The puppy will have a great chance of leading a wonderful life. I produce puppies that make people happy to own them and want to keep them. That's my job as a breeder. I have done this through rigorous selection. My puppies today are the result of 25 years of my stubborn insistence about never breeding a dog that does not have a wonderful disposition, perfect conformation, great intelligence, exceptional natural ability, breathtaking style and that mysterious ingredient called genius. Every puppy born in my kennel has several generations of my own dogs in its pedigree. All of those ancestors possess a high level of each of those desirable traits. I have raised, trained and grown old with every dog listed in several generations of each puppy's pedigree. Simply put, my puppies today are a lot nicer than my puppies of 25 years ago. Today, there is a much higher percentage of good ones, a much lower percentage of deficient ones, a much higher average of good qualities, and a much higher percentage of true greatness emerging from my kennel today. That's what it means to be a dog breeder. It makes for happier dogs. It makes for dogs that lead better lives, find permanent families and homes, and get to experience love in many forms.
Yes, I am very proud of being a breeder. I did that. They make me smile a lot. I think I make them smile, too. But there's always those whackos that say I am doing it for the money... They accuse me of exploiting animals for profit. YES Every chance I get. I am very happy when I am able to sell a puppy for cold, hard cash. It makes me feel good because it shows me that someone appreciates the work I am doing.
It makes me feel good because I have earned it and earned it honestly. My only regret is that I have not made more money as a breeder. With all of the sacrifices I have made and the hard work, I should be rolling in money. Alas, I am not. It has been a long time since I actually made money on a litter of puppies. Usually, I barely break even. For every puppy I sell, there is another that I keep to evaluate, and a couple of other ones that I am keeping for at least a couple of years to evaluate for worthiness to breed. Then there are dogs in competition, and that costs bushels of money, not to mention old dogs that are retired and have a home here until they die of old age. Nearly half of my kennel are old dogs that are elderly and retired, and it takes a lot of money to care for them. And it takes money for dog food, supplies, veterinary bills, kennel repairs, vehicle use for transporting to and from shows, advertising, internet, phone bills, and four pairs of good boots a year. It takes money. Lots of money. Bundles of money. Oh, Lord, please help me to sell some more puppies! Besides, what's wrong with making money? It is a rather fundamental American value. Making money is something to be proud of, as long as it's done honestly.
It's time for every dog owner and breeder to stand up proudly and be counted. Each one of you has done far more to enhance the quality of life of both people and dogs than all these other animal rights activists and forum/e-mail list slashers put together. So stand up and shout it to the rooftops!

I'M A DOG BREEDER! I'M PROUD OF IT AND I'M GOOD AT IT!

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