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My son was attending classes at this school for over three years. He loved it, but every time I had to deal with the owners Elyse Johanis there was a problem. Her emails were horrible, rude, and sarcastic, always quoting their policies and procedures and blaming me. My son was about to graduate from his brown belt with his best friend who he attends class with and she terminated our contract "immediately" after I requested that she or her husband call me and work out any problems. Now two young hard working karate kids will not graduate together, it's really abuse, revenge, anger, ugly. Don't start there if you haven't she is not OK, needs professional help. Find another karate school and forget Johanis Karate.
My son loves and handles karate very well. It was me that the owner had a problem with - she even stated that my son "was a pleasure to teach" he was ready to graduate to his second degree brown belt at the end of the month and because I asked her to call me to work out our email issues she cut me off. My son is pretty upset that he and his friend that have been going together for 3 years and 5 months have torn apart by this woman. I let him read her email last night and he was stunned and hurt. He never did anything but be a good karate kid. No one is perfect, but Elyse Johanis is a *****.
I just received an email from John Johanis where he claims that all of the emails were in fact from him and not his wife, Elyse. Unfortunately since they have refused to phone me and will only send emails the truth is hard to know. In my letter to them two days ago, i "respectfully requested" that they call me to work out the situation. That letter received an email cancelling my contract. The only phone number I have for them is at the dojo and they open at 4 p.m. or Sat. mornings when my son is home. I don't want him to hear any of it. They are insisting I am angry about not getting emails I did not sign up for. Instead of trying to resolve the issue they are insisting on adhering to the policy that I knew nothing about. All the other activities that my kids are enrolled in automatically put the parents on their email list. The Johanis's insist on being right, instead of reasonable, which is also what I requested in my letter to them. No common sense here. Sorry I was only annoyed by Elyse, apparently John is equally annoying.
Dear Mr. Stealth Pilot,
I emailed you privately because you have posted 2 complaints and 4, 372 comments on other people's postings. A little fresh air might do you some good. Your anger, like Johanis Karate can only be met with compassion. I am sorry for your state of 'being'. Someone once said that anger is like taking poison and expecting someone else to die. Update to my son's karate drama is that I have found a wonderful new instructor in Orangeville that was appalled by the emails from Johanis Karate and has given my son free classes until he decides if he likes the new school. There is an answer for everything, one need only look.
My oh my such anger and hostility. Am I the one who is a smart ###? Have you heard of projection? Consider that you accuse others of that which you are guilty of. How nice for you that you have been a member for so long, using your stealth to seek out postings where you can place your lovely comments. I have looked at some of your work, it seems that you are the one giving all the advice. I am sure new postings are just so much fun for your alter egos. What a sad sad person you are. You are a true test of ones ability to be compassionate, but we learn the most from troublemakers and enemies. Truthfully its OK with me if you fly away, but chances are you cannot.
Dear dear sad stealth, you posted your "advice" first darling, tossing insults at my 11 year old. Hopefully with your attitude there is no child in your home. I can see now that this is a hobby or a job for you. As I said in my email, get a life. Thanks nails1234 your comment was much appreciated. A sane comment at last.
Oh stealth, I should thank you. Now when you Google Johanis Karate this warning for other parents pops up on top. No doubt that is due to stealth's comments and my responses. All that activity and we are on the hit list today. Thanks for your annoying comments stealth. Look forward to your next fly by.
Again Nails makes sense. This will be my final comment. First I would like to apologize to Elyse for saying she was a five letter something or other. Stealth got my goat for just a second and I hit submit. Couldn't take it back, I did try to. It isn't right to be angry at those with issues. So to Elyse and Stealth all the best, good mental health, stay cool, have a good life.
I am really pleased with this Karate school. The owners have been nothing but fair with our son these last years and he really loves doing Karate. If you have a problem go and face the people in person.
My son Andrew was with Johanis Karate when I worked with John Johanis at his father's "brokering" trucking company in Orangeville. Andrew worked extremely hard for 8 years & had his brown belt. When I resigned from Criterion Transportation to go to a better paying job, John got angry with me & took it out on my son by not giving him his black belt test & treating him very badly. John was abusive to my son as well as to me. He has a son with his first wife Rachel who I pitty for having a father who must always be right.
He will come across as professional at first but if you question him, LOOK OUT!
Well congratulations, I found your complaint when I did a Google search. I hope that since March you have seen this incident with a clearer perspective. You, the adult, allowed you 11 year old to miss graduating with his friend and get KICKED OUT of the school because you didn't like the perceived tone of an email! Seriously? Is it possible that you, like millions before you, have misinterpreted the tone of the writer? We have all done it, I've done it, email is really tricky. It has occurred to me that perhaps you are a 'glass half empty' kind of person, and projected your own feelings onto the others around you. Obviously I don't know, but I can tell you about my experience with Johanis Karate school. I have found that Elyse and Sensai John to be nothing short of professional and considerate. I have read all the FAQ's and policies of the school, there is nothing unreasonable anywhere. We are so pleased to find a martial arts school that focuses on respect and character development for our son. Our son does not need to learn how to fight, he needs well rounded maturity and teaching and this is exactly what we have found here.
Nice to meet you here Linda, you have done a good thing posting her in my opinion! I couldn't agree more with what you have said. Perhaps it took awhile to figure it out but now your son is at a new school you may find as I did how excited and happy he will be learning martial arts in a meaningful way. Cross the street when you see crazy as the saying goes lol
I think it is important to keep this string solely as it relates to complaints about this school and to disregard comments from folks whom have not had a direct experience.
STEALTH: For one day could you please SHUT YOUR FACE UP? There's more people against you than "for" you.
Yes, SP does have children. I feel sorry for them; they'll end up with a cynical, negative attitude just like STEALTH.
Action will soon be taken here, to remove SP's access to this forum.
From Stealths posts we get to see the quality of people that defend this school - how fitting! Glad to see you found a new school Linda J.