Jean Pierre Parent review: Illegally Subletting/Fruad/Conartist 10

Ignorant bystander here.

What a fiasco. My best wishes to JP as this dissolves from his life. He seems to be a man of integrity who made a decision that came back to bite him in the butt, so to speak. It's over a year in the past now. Hopefully the whole matter has been dropped. I am sorry the landlord and the sublet woman got so cranked up. Screaming "calm the hell down" probably wouldn't have helped the matter, but that was my inclination, in reading their rants.

I would not have given someone their security, either, if they had swiped up my place while I was away. I think what Nicole did- with or without the landlord's consent, constitutes some form of squatting. What both women did was highly illegal without proper notice, etc. If someone is on a residency for more than 30 days and receives mail there, they have tenant rights inherently.

OMG as I sit and consider the above emails I am even MoreFlabbergaster that Nicole still feels it is okay to steal someone's HOME out from under them while they are away and have any right to breathe a Word about her side of things! Un F'n real. Incredible! There are laws that protect tenants from this kind of maltreatment by landlords and I hope JP saw his day in court with this.

Hello everyone,
I am an old friend of Jean Pierre's and wanted to chime in. He is one of the most honest, sane and virtuous people I have ever known. Furthermore- it Is legal (just check airbnb for the One Million subscribers, renters and landlords) to charge more on rent when you temporarily travel if you sublet a unit. I am quite sure that since his back house was literally On the landord's property- he would not have been silly enough to do this without permission.

It seems that the attitude and scathing, reactive, rude emails the woman has written, show who truly has character here- and it seems like a situation where two older ladies got along with two cups of tea and put out someone who was innocently and lawfully trying to make a buck on ...Los Angeles Real estate- of all things! My word!

Way to twist the facts, ladies! And 3rd parties are prone to siding with their friends just bc they have heard their friend lament- but they don't necessarily know the law!

It is not against the law to profit for G-d's sakes. But I know the deprivational size of this unit and the amount of clutter the woman who owns this property used to keep= so profit is a foreign 6 letter word to this woman, clearly. I know- bc many years ago- I stayed there with JP for a few weeks out of his generosity when I needed housing (With the landlords' permission and he was Very careful to respect all of her many boundaries)

I think it is awful to ca his items cheap and to pick anyone out of their home no matter the circumstance.

### much older women- the two should be ashamed of themselves and be locked up for the night. I am sure their relationship will sever and they' both face whatever internal jailtime they deserve. It is dispicable to write something on the internet that is permanently there about someone, immature and smacks of an evil, desperate design to ignore their own unrighteous piece of things in the situation, and they should eave JP Alone.

I am Nicole. I didn’t realize it until JP contacted me with an email that this complaint was put on here about him. My Friend put the original post and complaint about Jean Pierre Parent. I asked her to remove it but she wouldn’t do it because she knew all I had gone through with this situation. And to all of my friends, thank you for having my back! I read over all of this and am aggravated about all of the lies that JP wrote. This has caused me much aggravation and I thought that all of this was over already when JP came to pick up his things. We even shook hands in agreement that I was to keep some items because he did not have my security deposit money. (my friend was a witness to this) I did not steal anything from him. Now if someone stole from you, wouldn’t you call the police? I sure would! My Friend even helped to carry his heavy couch down the steps and we both took his things downstairs. I took off days from work with short notice, and nearly lost my job because JP said he was coming on a date that was not agreed upon.
Before JP came here, I went to the police station and put in a complaint because I was fearful that he would come here and break in to retrieve his things. I showed the police his texts and they told me to put a restraining order against him.
JP is lying about the worth of all of the items he left here. It was pretty much all ikea furniture as well as things that he purchased for a deal on Criagslist, Amazon, or wherever. Some things he got for free. He wanted me to purchase these items and had given me price rates that were of retail value. I was only going to purchase things to save him the expense of coming out here. Once I realized the worth and decided that I didn’t want the items, he became upset and angry. I never damaged any furniture and again, the worth of anything that was here is certainly not what he stated. The first lie is in his first paragraph. I agree that he is trying to make his character look better. I understand that. Yet what I don’t understand is why he’s twisting the truth here making it look as if I did something wrong. I was basically in the middle of him and the owner of the homes decision. She decided that she wanted me to stay and was not happy with him as a tenant. Again, this was not my decision. The homeowner asked me to stay here. I agreed. JP became hostile about it and I understand why because he made the place his own. The owner gave him an ample amount of time for him to get a mover, etc. Yet I was still owed my security deposit of $1200
I have all of the emails that he sent to me, and I still may take him to court because he illegally rented to me and caused me too much stress. I have been kind, and I will not post the emails that he sent to me. I will save all of that for the Judge. I spoke to my lawyer about all of this and I have a solid case to take to small claims court. I also kept the threatening texts that he sent to me as well as police report papers. What I did not understand is that the letter that his lawyer was typed, and the outside envelope had JP’s handwriting on it. I compared the writing to the lease papers that he gave me, and it’s his writing for sure. My lawyer agreed as well as my Friends who looked at the envelope and lease that it’s his writing. Lawyers have professional stationary so it did not make sense that the outside envelope was handwritten.
The items that were left behind are worth about $600, which means that he still owes me $600. We shook hands the day he left here and I thought that it was over. Apparently not! I still feel threatened by him and I feel that he is unstable.
He is also upset because I am now living here rent free and am helping the lady of the house with various things to make up the cost. She felt bad because he took advantage of me as well as others that he subleased to illegally.
I don’t appreciate that JP put my address and phone number out there. It’s no one’s business where I live.
I just want to let this all go and may not pursue a lawsuit if JP just goes away and leaves me alone. I’m tired of all of this non sense! I wish him well and forgive him for his mistakes. I know that he took advantage of my kindness and got a lot of money from me but, whatever. I just want peace in my life and don’t need this aggravation anymore.
What he did was wrong.
May God forgive JP

i posted 2x because i thought that my original respose didn't go through
You get the idea- JP is all of what has been said about him! Leave my friend alone! Jerk!

First of all, JP is lying and trying to paint this pretty picture about himself and acting as if he’s a victim. I am Nicole’s good Friend and I know that all of what JP wrote are lies! I was with her throughout this entire ordeal and know the stress that she endured!
JP illegally rented the place to her and charged double the rent to fund his foreign trips. He was basically thrown out because the owner of the property found out what he was doing and what he was charging Nicole. The owner was also tired of other problems he caused while living there.
He tried to manipulate Nicole into buying his cheap furniture and begged her in fact to purchase everything. He threatened Nicole via txts and said he was coming there on a day that wasn’t agreed upon. She had to go to the police station to put in a complaint and showed them the txts JP sent. Nicole almost lost her job because she took off for a few days without notice in fear that he would show up and break in the place!
JP did not have the deposit money when he finally showed up to get his stuff, and left about $600 worth of items that was agreed to. He still owes Nicole money, and she has been kind enough to not file a law suit as of yet. Believe me as her Friend, I feel she should SUE HIS ###!
In my opinion, JP is a Money- hungry, Manipulating, Sociopath! It’s obvious that he is trying way too hard to paint this pretty picture of himself with all he wrote! Trying to look like he’s this great member of productive society, yet he is all of the above mentioned! Shame on You! Shame on you JP! Your true colors have been revealed!

This is a whole lot of non sense that was put into the rebuttle! Nicole is my good Friend and I was with her throughout this whole entire ordeal. JP is a Liar! Nicole was taken advantage of because she is a kind person, and JP is a snake! From the beginning he had this Fake lease and illegally rented the place to her. Not realizing that he was charging extra money to fund his foreign trips here and there. The real owner found out he was charging double the rent and became livid! She wanted him to just get his stuff and not come back! He caused alot of problems by illegally subleasing the property amongst other things.
He begged Nicole and tried to manipulate her into buying his crappy cheap furniture! When she decided she didn't want the stuff, he started writing all these crazy emails to her and was txting her, making her feel threatened. She went to the police station and showed them the txts and put in a complaint. He said that he was coming there and getting his stuff, etc. and it was on days that she had to work. She almost lost her job because she had to take off 2 days without warning and was so afraid he was going to break into her place to retrieve his crappy furniture.
The bottom line is that JP is trying to clear his name and that it's obvious that Nicole is the victim in all of this. JP is trying to paint this pretty picture about himself and spent an awful lot of time concocting the above story to make it look as if he's this Great Guy. He's just money hungry, a bully, and in my opinion, a sociopath! He took advantage of the owner of the house, other renters, as well as Nicole.
He also had this lawyer send Nicole a letter that was typed, and the outside of the envelope had JPs handwriting on it! He basically said give me $4000, or else!
Nicole kept about $600 worth of things that JP agreed to because he did not return her $1, 200 in rent. He came out on top really, and it was foolish of her to even do that because he owed her money.
Nicole was nice enough to not pursue a lawsuit thus far.
The truth is now out about JP, and he's angry! He's angry because he knows that his TRUE Character has been revealed!
Shame on you JP!
Shame on you for being all of the above mentioned!

I know Nicole Vogel for a long time I met Jean Pierre Parent the fake landlord in Beverly Hills .
He moved to Oregon Cause he will be prosecuted for false representation .As you can see from his long post in here lied about the way he treated my friend Nicole.
He was illegally subleasing the place.
Just the fact Nicole still living in the same place and he is not allowed to comeback tells the story.
Jean Pierre Parent even his name sounds fake from an old book of witchery
Mr. Parent should be put in jail he is a liar and who knows what other crimes he had committed in the past.

This post is abut me, and was brought to my attention and as much as I'd love to ignore it, I was almost denied by a landlord because of it so I feel I should comment. I contacted the lady who posted it who had a man answer her phone and say (after thinking about it for a little while and stumbling over his words) that it was the wrong number nor will she respond to my email. Very unfortunate situation.
Nicole Vogel, currently at 1310 Schuyler Rd in Beverly Hills, CA 90210 and formerly from New Jersey [protected]; sublet my guest house while I went out of town (to India to work on an orphanage, by the way). I paid $600 per month for the unit, which was in a great area but had bare plywood floors, terrible paint, no screens in the windows, and was a generally unfinished unit. With the landlady's permission and gratitude, I put in bamboo floors, tiled the bathroom, carpeted the bedroom, built custom cabinets, a medicine cabinet, kitchen cabinets and granite countertop, and much much more, paying for everything but the bamboo material myself. I also left the place furnished with over $15, 000 in furniture, kitchen appliances, an everything else a person just moving to town with nothing of their own would need. The landlady asked me to sublet the place while I was gone so she wouldn't have to find a renter nor lose the monthly rent, and suggested I charge more to cover the utilities and furniture. I charged $1200 for the unit, utilities included (including phone and wifi). Ms. Vogel jumped at the chance to rent this, and I chose her over several other applicants.
Ms. Vogel and the landlady got along so well that they decided, when the lease was over, to "squeeze me out", the tenant paying less and the landlady charging more. I get this, the problem was: the guest house was still full of my stuff. After MONTHS of back and forth on Ms. Vogel's part, after I contacted the police and got a lawyer, we finally agreed on a time for me to pick up my things. I show up with a moving truck and she has about half of my things on the driveway, much of it damaged (we're talking hundreds of years old Asian antiques, delicate lamps, etc) and tells me she's keeping a list of things to cover her deposit. I don't like this, as the items are worth much more, but I agree to keep everything copacetic.
Then she tells me she has to run out for a few minutes and will be right back to unlock the place so I can get the rest of the things we didn't agree on her keeping. She never comes back, and after a couple of hours finally answers my many texts with "it's going to be awhile". I realize then that she was planning this from the beginning, so she could pretty much steal my things, including a set of wine glasses my grandmother passed to my mother who gave them to me.
This is the absolute unvarnished truth, and I'm just flabbergasted that someone who came out so far and despicably ahead could post something like this, and 308 people have clicked "+1", which I imagine is confirming this post? I am sure 100% of these folks don't know me or anything about this situation. I walk dogs at the humane society. I teach yoga in juvenile detention centers, jails, and a senior center. I just did a series of breathing classes for free at a yoga studio in Oceanside, CA to benefit the Alano club, a AA meeting place and addiction recovery center. I guess no matter what one does to try and be the best person possible, with the anonymity afforded by the venting internet community one can't always avoid unpleasantness like this.

emails between us posted below.

From: Nicole Vogel [mailto:nicolioli412@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2011 4:29 PM
To: Jean-Pierre Parent
Subject: RE: $1200 / 1br - Secluded GUEST HOUSE Fully Furnished in Japanese Modern Design UTL INC (Beverly Hills/ West Hollywood)
Hello,

My name is Nicole Vogel.
I am just moving here to the area from New Jersey.
I am Very interested in applying for this place as soon as possible
Please contact me via Email, or give me a call.
Thank you for you time.
Nicole Vogel
[protected]

Jean-Pierre,

Thank You so Very much! I looked over the lease, and it is fine.
It's a pleasure, and I am very thrilled that things turned out
this way! Serendipitous, indeed!☺
I look forward to seeing you tomorrow

Nicole

Hi Nicole – so great meeting you tonight. I’ve had appointments for a month and I’m so glad it worked out last minute like it did! Serendipitous. I wanted to send over the lease so you could look it over before tomorrow; I’ll have copies here so don’t worry about printing it out.

Talk to you tomorrow,
jp

Hi JP,

I hope that you are doing well with your travels!
How Exciting! I am Excited for you!
I absolutely Love it here! I am in Love with this place!
I Love this set up!
I Love the peacefulness, the sunshine, nature, Everything!
I truly look forward to receiving my Easel, paints, and brushes
so that I can start painting something right away!
This place is inspirational!

I have a couple of questions for you.
Where do I retrieve my mail?
When does the trash go out/where do I put it.

I can not thank You enough!
This place is definately me!
☺

Hope you are having a lovely time!

Nicole

Nicole-
woohoo! I knew it instantly. Happy happy joy joy.

mail- mailbox or if joy gets it first she'll bring it to the bottom of the steps and call up "mail!" If you don't want he are to call up tell her you're meditating. Worked for me.

also - put "guest house" on package deliveries and they'll put em on the stairs. I got a lot of packages and joy got sick of stepping over or delivering them

garbage in the brown can, joy carries the recycling by hand because she doesn't want to pay. Her choice, so just leave it in the yellow bucket and she can deal with it.

I cannot tell you how glad I am that you found a wonderful place to blossom! You deserve it

AND A FEW MONTHS LATER...

Hey JP -

Nicole received her letter, because I spoke with her yesterday. Joy
returned her letter to me marked "no addresses - return to sender."
Just wanted to check the addresses were the same for both Joy and
Nicole, since I sent them to same address.

Nicole was initially very hostile with me but I managed to have a
civilized conversation with her in the end. She claims that she will
counter-sue if you bring any action in court, and said she was
speaking with her own attorney (but wouldn't provide me with his/her
contact information). Initially she threw the "kitchen sink" at me,
saying she was going to get a restraining order / claimed my letter
was harassment / had already been to the police, but, after she calmed
down a little, it became clear that she doesn't believe she owes you
anything (no surprises there). This is the summary (I'm just reciting
her version, btw, obviously I give no credence to it):

- Nicole says she is owed her security deposit. She claims the items
she is holding don't equal the security deposit, but had some kind of
agreement with you for her to keep them. Says she has a witness to
this.
- August 8 meeting was amicable - she had a friend help you move some
of the stuff, and says you knew she had to leave for an appointment.
Claims she was unable to reach you later that same day.
- Says your sublease to her was illegal (may be true, since we are
claiming underlying lease from Joy to you is illegal).
- You have no receipts or any way to document value of the property
you left, and not worth 4k
- Says Joy had to engage contractors to repair the property after you
left (holes in wall, etc...) and lost money through this.
- Will counter sue or sue if you go to court.
- Will consider mutual "walkaway" if you agree not to proceed further.

Obviously, since the letter was returned, Joy hasn't seen it.
However, it certainly seems she and Nicole are "circling the wagons."
One concern I have is that Joy will claim - falsely of course - some
kind of "elder abuse" by virtue of her advanced age (at least, it's my
impression that she is older - is that true?), and shackle herself to
Nicole's claims and make whatever claims of her own she feels are
necessary.

In terms of moving forward, you could always pursue her in small
claims court. As noted, Nicole has claimed she will counter sue if
you do this, and it might be reasonable to expect both Nicole and Joy
to appear in court on the day of any hearing, spinning whatever story
they have concocted. As for your options against Joy, I think I will
have to refer you to a tenant's association or the city's
landlord-tenant department, since I don't know how the illegality
issue affects your standing to pursue a claim against Nicole (and/or
Joy). I.e., we can't inconsistently claim that Joy is liable to you
because of an illegal lease, and then rely on the lease/sub-lease to
support any claim you make against Nicole (I know your claim against
Nicole relates to your possession, rather than the lease, but this is
a consideration).

Anyway, I'm sorry I don't have news of a more positive note, but, at
the very least, we know Nicole's position, and we know that Joy is
refusing to acknowledge anything.

Let me know if you have any questions in interim. I'm available to
pitch in with ideas as necessary, but won't be able to take matters
any further with respect to Joy or Nicole (small claims court doesn't
allow attorney representation anyway, but I can give you guidance on
how to present case to judge).

Best,
my lawyer (I wanted to keep his id confidential)

AND FINALLY...

Hi there, hope you’re well.
So I’m in portland and a landlord sees the complaint you put on the internet (or one of them?) and decided to maybe not rent to me. After the shock and upset wore off a little, I’m just confused. I would have thought you felt like really good after kind of squeezing me out of my place, keeping a bunch of my stuff, etc. I mean, why would you be so scathing? I just don’t get it, when you came out so far ahead. Apparently you don’t see it that way.

It may feel good to vent, and I’m sure you feel that you have a right to, but it is actually affecting my life in a pretty big way so I’d like to talk to you about it.

Again, hope you’re doing very well.
jp

No response. You, dear reader, be the judge.