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just going through a 4 month process of getting my refund. Been dealing with Peter Frivaldi and sent me to the account manager Loudres Torres. Loudres Torres does not have a contact number of course and is unreachable via telephone. Her email address is pretty much useless as the rest of the company is. She doesn't respond to any of her emails. I sent her multiple emails and just forwards them on for other people to handle. I.e. Peter Frivaldi. Peter has been the most professional at this point at returning calls and answering calls and emails. No one else has.

Steve Copeland who is the Director is not doing anything other than sitting on his ###. Lieing to me yesterday about being on a meeting; so he picks up the phone to see who it is, yea right, and said he would call me back on my 714 area code number. He knew my number off the top of his head. Because he must not answer it and has it blocked. He picked up his phone because i dialed him from a Arizona number. Gotcha ###. Unexpected for him so he doesn't call me back. Now i call him today, picks up but doesn't say anything then hangs up. Call him back twice and get the voicemail. Left a voicemail and email simultaneously. called a 4th time and he picked up knowing who it was and told me to take legal action for my refund that THEY STILL HAVE NOT PROCESSED. Which Steve said last month he would look into. Which i bet is a f**king lie.

See you f**kers in court. Orange County Superior Court, Newport Beach.

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chaz26
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Jul 14, 2011 7:35 am EDT

Scammed.

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Needadvise
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Sep 09, 2010 3:22 pm EDT
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After reading all the above comments I am confussed. Some say they are scams and other say they are not. I just completed the Stage 1 remote phase and moving into stage 2. They just completed a background and credit check for me and said i was approved to move on to the 4day ccna camp in Cali. They want me to pay lodgeing/meals-$99/day, CCNA-$250, and CCNP-$600. I don't know if i should go ahead with this, any advise...

Thanks,
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Iphay
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Jun 25, 2010 4:07 pm EDT

Very misleading this company. They said they would find you a job but the truth is they will just tell you to post your resume to all the job search engines on the net. Once you're done with the program, they will keep harassing you if you are looking for a job while they specifically put on their site that they will help you find a job.

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mr haro
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May 04, 2010 6:29 pm EDT

has anybody sued them?

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tobydog
san digeo, US
Sep 23, 2009 2:58 am EDT

These guys may now be working as LAN/WAN Professioanl.com See the email I got below and watch out!

My name is Patrick Pule and I am the Director of Client Relations for LAN/WAN Professional. I want to personally inform you that you have been conditionally approved to receive the $6, 995 training grant to be used for the CCNA/CCNP Certification Focused Training Program.

The CCNA/CCNP Certification Focused Training Program includes 2 weeks of remote CCNA Hands-On Training (40 hours) that culminates in you attending a 3 day CCNP Hands-On Boot Camp that is held in Orange County, California (30 hours). Upon camp completion, you will receive 6 week of CCNA/CCNP remote certification training (120 hours) that is designed to get you fully certified as a CCNA and CCNP.

The $6, 995 grant covers 100% of the cost of the training. Please note that you will be responsible for a $99 camp registration fee, Cisco hands-on lab guide ($195) and dormitory style lodging/meals during the 3 day camp ($99 X 2). Camp registration fee is due upon full confirmation and the Cisco hands-on lab guide and lodging/meals fee is due on the first day of camp. If you are fully accepted in the CCIE Consultant Training and Placement Program your camp registration and lodging/meals fees will be fully reimbursed.

To get full confirmation, please download and fully complete the $6, 995 Grant Confirmation Form as instructed and return your confirmation form by the confirmation deadline stated below.

Confirmation Deadline: 5:00pm (PST) on Friday, September 18, 2009.
Please return the form via fax or e-mail to me as listed on the confirmation form by the deadline mentioned above. If we do not receive your confirmation form by the deadline listed above, your grant will be given to the next qualified candidate on our list. Within 2 business days after receipt of your confirmation form, I will contact you to conduct a routine phone verification.

The purpose of the verification is to validate that you are a qualified and serious candidate and to confirm your camp date. During the phone call, I will be happy to answer any questions regarding the training and provide tips and suggestions on how to successfully prepare for the camp.

Candidates desiring to attend a 3 day camp listed as LIMITED should turn in their confirmation form as soon as possible to ensure their spot.
If you have any questions please feel free to contact me by phone or e-mail. Thank you for considering LAN/WAN Professional as your partner in your information technology success. I am looking forward to hearing from you.

Sincerely,

Patrick Pule
Director of Client Relations
Tel: [protected]
Fax: [protected]
E-mail: ppule@lanwanprofessional.com

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graclr99
agadgad, US
Jun 16, 2009 9:02 am EDT

I applied for the internship and of course was accepted into stage 1 ( like I'm pretty sure everyone else is). I paid my $95 and after reading the about the program more thoroughly I discovered this site and many others like it. I decided I wanted to bail out so I emailed Patrick Pule for a refund. He gave it to me no questions asked.

It's not really a scam. It's more marketing tricks. Everything you need to know is in fine print. I learned my lesson though.

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Nick
Odessa, US
Mar 12, 2009 4:52 pm EDT

OK... Here goes... ANY company that says they are giving traing away for FREE and then says it cost $95... is LYING!

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Camron
Atlanta, US
Mar 08, 2009 1:01 am EST
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Hi everyone. I can only speak on my experiences with LAN/WAN Pros. I just got back from the 7 day CCNA/CCNP boot camp. I am so stoked. I got more hands on training in 3 days at LAN/WAN Pro then 2 weeks of training at Global Knowledge. And Global Knowledge cost me over $5000 as compared to about $900 with L/W Pros. The staff was very professional and Ray Choi, our trainer, is one of the most intelligent Network Engineers I've ever come across. I must be honest though. You need to have some basic Cisco IOS and networking knowledge or else you will get over whelmed. They have you doing advanced labs on day one. So this is not for the faint of heart. You have to study your ###-off so sleep is at a minimum. Because the game plan is to get you at a minimum CCENT certified. Their labs and study material is on point and trimmed of all the fat, so you get to the core knowledge of Cisco 1&2 at a rapid pace. Again they present you with the labs, lectures and cert preps, but it basically will come down to you and how much you want this. This was a great decision for me because it has expedited my process of getting my CCNP without making me a paper cert. I am so syked that I now know VLANS, STP, VTP and how to set up a Frame Relay and understand the concepts behind them.

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ohioguy
Akron, US
Jan 23, 2009 1:47 am EST

I think the camp was great and has helped me so much in training and getting my certifications and would recommend this program to people that are able to handle all the course work and test taking.

THIS IS NOT A SCAM, i attended the boot camp Jan. 10, 2008 and can say it is legit!

Peter is a great guy and those post above do not personally know him, I have met him in person and can say if you put the time into it, it will pay off!

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Dec 05, 2008 12:35 am EST

Their new scam can be found at www.lanwanprofessional.com

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Dec 03, 2008 3:57 pm EST

After almost two years, I decided to find out whether Tech Pros Group went out of business or change their name. I went to Google and typed "tech pros group." Surprise! Their website comes out first, and second this complaint board. I guess Steve Copeland is still stealing money from people all over the country.

Steve Copeland also stole money from me. Almost two years ago, on my search for training, I found TPG on career builder, I applied, etc. I travelled all the way to CA from NJ. During the orientation, Steve Copeland let us know that they cancelled the program. He proposed to give us a lab, and after the lab, he'd give us the exam questions and answers. Since I had just obtained my MCSE by studying my ars off and I was searching for more hands on training, I reluctantly accepted to do the one-day lab and then train myself for the CCNA at their premises. However, they never gave me a CCNA lab. They gave me the questions, but I decided to go for a CCNA training and go back to NJ. I'm not a mediocre professional who memorizes the answers to pass the test and then claim I know. That's not me. So, I didn't go that route.

As of today, Steve Copeland hasn't given me money back from the tests he charged me for and I didn't take. There were some other charges that I needed reimbusement as well. I can't remember.

I filed a complaint with the deparment of education in CA, and they said that their department was going to be shut down. I sent all the information to the education division at Cisco and Microsoft. Hopefully, they did their thing.

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lanwandude
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Dec 03, 2008 3:07 pm EST

Yep Steve, that's Morgan Stoller alright; there is a match with his video testimonial on their website. Looks like he was the "right candidate" and got a great job through Tech Pros Group; I am pretty sure he is NOT paper certified.

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Steve
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Dec 02, 2008 8:06 pm EST

Wait, is this morgan stoller?
http://www.tripractix.com/team/engineering/morgan_stoller

I googled tpg because I myself came across them two and a half years ago. I was curious if they were still around and how they were doing. To my amazement, I came across this! Not sure what is true or not, but like a previous poster said, everything is a business. If(keyword here) you walk away from their program with all those certs that i recall, the 20K will come easy, presuming you know the material, not the answers to test q's.

But then again, if you are just a paper-cert, then you got ripped, and people who hire will see right through your countless certs...

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Stanley Applewhite
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Nov 26, 2008 2:32 pm EST

Well so far I'm only a week into stage 1 in this program. I am having fun with it. I do have an associates in computer information science and am (A+, NET+ certified). The support i have been getting has been great so far.

It has been working out...thank you Mr Patrick Pule.

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Mr. Blood
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Nov 13, 2008 5:21 pm EST

LanWANDude sounds like Steve Copeland making up yet another post, He doesnt want you to sue him. DONT PAY THEM NOTHING> I DIDNT> AND NEVER WILL>
HA HA HA HA HA HA>
I know others who didnt pay either, DONT GIVE THEM ANYTHING.

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lanwandude
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Sep 10, 2008 12:10 pm EDT

Don't panic Deep, I also applied and I am happy I did; it just makes logical sense to me. I came across the testimonial (copied and pasted from the internet) below and I heard that Tech Pros Group has a current placement rate of over 90%. They had some issues prior to 2007 when their placement rate was only 60%. They didn't have stage 1 free training back then and I think that now they have a solid system in place. They keep referring to the "right candidate" on their website www.lanwanprofessional.com and they discourage you from applying if you answer "No" to one of their 5 questions. Anyways, good luck to you.

Prior to enrolling in the Tech Pros Group LAN/WAN Engineer program, I was not completely convinced with the training methods. After graduating from the program, I could not possibly be any more satisfied with the quality of the training!

Before graduating from the LAN/WAN Engineer program, I had been working at a small IT Consulting company, and rarely received the opportunity to work with enterprise, cutting-edge technology. Now with my current position (Jr. Network Engineer), I am working with advanced enterprise technology all the time. I am also making more than double that of my last job!

The entire LAN/WAN Engineer program is PERFECT for those who are passionate in the IT industry, and desire to advance their skills. The program offers a complete package to help YOU land a job including:

- Professional training/preparation for successful interviewing
- Hands On Technical training/activities for enhancing skills

I was well beyond satisfied with the quality of the LAN/WAN Engineer program! I would recommend the program to anyone who desires to build on his/her experience in the IT industry!

Thank You,
Morgan Stoller

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deep
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Sep 10, 2008 2:21 am EDT

i was stupid enough to pay for all the training...i paid for application, registration, books and xams also...i didnt know that in the beginning...i didnt check over the internet...i was desperate 2 get the job..even i cleared their initial xals then they charged me for some xams 1000$ in total...now i am reading all this ...it sucks...not kool at all...i was working in fast food place to save that money..and i need my money back..is there any way to get my money back guys...i heard abt claim in court ...i need help...

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Someone Else
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Sep 03, 2008 1:37 pm EDT

The above "testimonial" was generated in part by Tech Pros group and is not an unbiased review of the training they provide.

On a side note, looks like Tech Pros has their next name to fall back on - http://lanwanprofessional.com. Once enough people complain about the current biz, they'll close up and change names. Wash, rinse, and repeat.

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Aug 22, 2008 7:51 am EDT

Hello Cheaptrick,

I found a testimonial online about a Tech Pros Group candidate with no IT experience; it looks like she is currently working in one of those internships. I copied and pasted her testimonial below:

Prior to my involvement with Tech Pros, I had no true IT experience. I had graduated from college burnt out and directionless. Grad school plans had fallen through and I had to find a career I would like.
It seems so obvious in hindsight: I've always felt drawn to computers. With my CCNA little brother, I had been playing with computers and my home network (9 computers and peripherals) for years and troubleshooting my- and my family's computers, though I had never taken a computer course. I had grown up only a few miles from Microsoft's main campus, immersed in Microsoft culture in a Microsoft environment, surrounded by engineer uncles and cousins and friends. They were the people I felt most comfortable with and I did know that I wanted to join them.
I had never been inclined to take computer science courses, let alone a computer science or engineering degree, preferring a degree in Latin and ancient Greek. How could I, with my varied interests and determination not to be like my engineer uncle who knew nothing of Renoir's paintings, and having rejected traditional training actually find a viable way into IT, where—I noticed during my first post-college job—people seemed to have the most freedom and the most fun? The only things in my favor were my quick study ability, my determination to learn and my comfort with computers.
So I started looking for a new job and an affordable training program and found Tech Pros and their offer to train me up in a growing IT field to a mid-level position more quickly and making more money than through a doctorate program. I applied and was confident that if it was right I would make it. I did.
Tech Pros' course, as I experienced it, was refreshingly designed to teach the skills actually used without all the "extras" that one finds in textbooks or classes. The staff at Tech Pros at the camp, in remote support and in communication were helpful and friendly. Tech Pros' service was perfect for someone like me, a college graduate wanting to get into IT but not knowing how due to not having a technical background or training. And it's perfect for people already in a career to learn how to advance, professionally and technically.
The two weeks of camp were an incredible high. I was so high on excitement and adrenaline for two weeks straight that it took me a week afterward to get out of adrenaline withdrawal. I was so excited to be surrounded for the first time in my life by bright minds willing to learn and work really hard, to be surrounded by staff and professionals providing experience and concrete skills in both IT and in career advancement. I was excited to be so stimulated mentally doing something I love: working with computers with people not only willing but glad and eager to help me become a master
Currently, I am well on my way to a career that beginning my career as the youngest of my work group where I had only dreamed: in IT working as an engineer at Microsoft, like so many of my friends and relatives.
I am so happy for a way —even with my broad interests and prior lack of formal IT experience—to enter IT at a comfortable starting salary. Now I too, like my cousins and so many of my friends, like I had dreamed, am an engineer at Microsoft.

Katherine Davey
Deployment Engineer
Microsoft

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Cheaptrick
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Aug 17, 2008 12:55 pm EDT

I finally made it to the end and here's my thoughts

I have paid all the Admin fees, just starting Phase I - so far so good

TGP is a business... in the business of making money... they are not doing it to improve the world, or help out the underdog. They are doing it for money, and i cant blame them for making money... or at least trying.

They get there money one of 2 ways,
1 - you pass everything, get a job, and they take 19% (15-19k ish)
2 - you fail, drop out, whatever... and you owe the 20k for training... (which I'm sure is in the fine print but there not to up front about)

so there making 20k a year off of every successful OR not successful "student" .
Sounds like a business to me.

What gets me is, why do i need TGP... I could buy the books myself for less then all the Fee's. From what I understand you get these paperback lab books, a boot camp in Cali, and a t-shirt. I could also get a T-shirt and lab books and still be under the cost of the fees... so the question is - "is a 2 weeks boot camp worth all these fees?"

I would like to know if:
Someone went through this boot camp and was NOT satisfied with all it had to offer
-If anyone had gotten a Job because of this
- and if anyone started with NO IT background

I will probably take advantage of Phase I, a boot camp elsewhere can cost 5K + ... but as for Phase II... either way I'm loosing $20k. I would rather spend it on training, tutors, even a 5k boot camp...

The final Kicker is that a job is not guaranteed (correct me if I'm wrong). Even the people saying good things about TGP didn't say they landed a job... just X number of phone calls or interviews.

So final thoughts are:
-I'm more convinced its a badly run company then a Fraud
-Phase I... I will take full advantage of
-but Phase II... I could do better for 20k

and if anything I said was untrue... Call me out on it. I'm not here to lie I'm just here to help everyone understand who they're putting their trust, money, and future into.

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matt
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Aug 04, 2008 3:43 pm EDT

Adman probably has better things to do than check the complaintsboard if he did get a job.

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Mr. Blood
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Jul 29, 2008 7:29 pm EDT

I am guessing no jobs have been obtained because I havent seen a response.
Just stating facts

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TheTruthbetold1
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Jul 23, 2008 8:31 am EDT

Above all, I would teach him to tell the truth Truth-telling, I have found, is the key to responsible citizenship. The thousands of criminals I have seen in 40 years of law enforcement have had one thing in common: Every single one was a liar.

J. Edgar Hoover

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Koty
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Jul 18, 2008 12:27 pm EDT

WOW... I am so glad I decided to research this company before I paid anything. Thank you all very much...

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trammell smith
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Jul 15, 2008 2:36 pm EDT

thanks everyone for the tips. this just did not seem right. spoke with joshua cheng from tech pros but wanted to check them out first. you saved me 495.00

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John in Seattle
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Jul 11, 2008 8:46 am EDT

Thanks guys for the heads up. I was about to email them an application with my dollars for the internship. Hopefully I can contribute with a legit site as soon as find it.

*ta*

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Someone
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Jul 08, 2008 7:32 pm EDT

"After only 1 day of my update resume being posted on only 2 internet job boards, I have received calls/emails from 5 different companies wanting to speak with me regarding employment opportunities as a network engineer/administrator. Absolutely amazing! I can't wait to walk into these interviews because my technical skills are now sharp and my confidence is at an all time high."

I read you comment

Adman, did you get a job or not.

What happen!

What the update!

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Someone
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Jul 08, 2008 7:24 pm EDT

They can not guarantee you a job.

Very risky opportunity

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Someone
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Jul 08, 2008 7:21 pm EDT

Who has received a job with tech pros group. I don't care about your experience with the company. DID YOU GET A JOB OR NOT!

Like Mr. Blood said "These comments are from people who have NOT gotten a job yet"

DID YOU GET A JOB OR NOT!

DID YOU GET A JOB OR NOT!

ANSWER THAT QUESTION

Thank you

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Ted
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Jul 03, 2008 6:41 pm EDT

Glad I came upon this site. I applied to their Careerbuilder posting and got their email with the disclosure. I had some questions and called them this morning, left message and still waiting to here from them. After seeing this, I will not even fill out the form, let alone send them money. I wonder if I will hear from them by Monday, their deadline.

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Kristina
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Jun 28, 2008 1:38 pm EDT

I found an additional couple of reviews on Tech Pros Group from the internet; see below:

“I like many others were skeptical about Tech Pros after reading a few negative reviews, However i am a believer that you get out what you put in. After completing the full course i found that the staff really cares about you and your success. This course isn't for the weak at heart or people who have no experience and want to be only paper certified it is too intense for that. This is the only program out there that offers so much hands on experience within a short period of time. I was also very impressed with the career development skills that were taught, i was not expecting them and it was a tremendous bonus to the program. I feel that the only downside is that there could have been slightly better prep materials for the Cisco portion prior to the bootcamp, but I see that Tech Pros does make changes from camp to camp always trying to improve. The biggest accomplishment that i gained was my skills and confidence in knowing that not only can i get the job that i want but also the pay i deserve. I have already had numerous companies contact me within the 1st week after leaving the camp and i am certain that i will have the job i want within the next 30 days. I am a big supporter of the Tech Pros Family as I know they are also a supporter of me.” Frankie B.

“As a recent graduate from the Tech Pros Group LAN/WAN Engineer Program, I certainly could not be any happier with my decision to enroll in the program! The quality of this program is phenomenal and is PERFECT for those passionate in the IT field! After completing the entire program, I came to realize the care and dedication of all staff at Tech Pros Group. The people leading this company truly do care about building an ultimately successful future for you! Upon returning from the 2-week camp, my expectations were exceeded so greatly that I would never be able to stop mentioning positive highlights of the program! Prior to this camp, I never thought it was possible to learn so much in just a short amount of time! As amazing as this program sounds, it is very much in your power to achieve a great deal of experience and the following highly-respected credentials: Microsoft MCSA: Messaging Microsoft MCSA: Security Microsoft MCSE: Messaging Microsoft MCSE: Security Cisco Certified Network Associate The list does not stop here! I cannot even begin to mention all the areas of training, but some of the objectives are: Microsoft: ISA Server Microsoft: Exchange Server Microsoft: Certificate Authority Hierarchy Microsoft: Active Directory Redundant DNS & DHCP Microsoft: Site-to-Site VPN Configuration Cisco: Multilayer Switching Cisco: Routing & Switching Cisco: Network Address Translation Cisco: VLAN Configuration Cisco: VoIP and IP Telephony After reading this, I hope you now realize that there is no room for any doubt! And, to ensure even higher standards, the talented individuals supporting this program are constantly making improvements and additions! In other words, your experience could only be BETTER than mine!” Morgan S.

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Mr. Blood
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Jun 28, 2008 11:00 am EDT

LMMFAO,
So let me get this right TPG has a proprietary Certification (CMNA) what a joke. It is the same thing they did in my training and they are just renaming it. I think you guys need to get a job and start setting up networks (FOR REAL) and then post your comments here about your training. Please stop wasting time with this crap. You are still remembering questions to the MCSA to PASS IT. SO until that changes and you actually KNOW something GET REAL. This guy who posted a review may have gotten 5 call backs, but when they find out he really doesn’t know ANYTHING things will change. I know of someone speaking HIGHLY of TPG who “Graduated” and is doing PC repair. Come on.

What a waste of TIME and MONEY. http://www.mindleaders.com/products/certifications.asp
http://www.vmware.com/download/server/
Get real knowledge, download ISO’s.
I guess you don’t do your research, please let us know when you get a job out there.

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Kristina
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Jun 26, 2008 6:47 pm EDT

The information posted above is inaccurate and misleading. I am currently in stage 1 and my experience so far has been more than positive.

I felt the need to clarify the false information posted by “Lucky”. I paid for 3 hands-on lab guides; I did not pay for the materials from www.safaribooksonline.com; these materials were provided to me by Tech Pros Group free of charge.

The CMNA (hands-on certification) is on the contrary very useful; from my understanding, its purpose is to back up the Microsoft MCSA certification to ensure that the stage 1 candidates are not MCSA paper certified. Furthermore I knew about the CMNA exam before I applied (it is disclosed on their disclosure document).
I also found a review on the internet from a recent candidate who seems to have recently completed stage 2 with Tech Pros. I copied and pasted the review below, I hope it helps everyone.

“I am a recent graduate of Tech Pros Group LAN/WAN Engineer Program and am very pleased with the training I received there. Prior to applying to this program, I had interviewed for six others and enrolled in two. Neither provided the level of hands-on training they promised nor upheld the academic standards for which they had been “recognized” and “awarded” in the past. Once they received the tuition, the support and additional services they promised disappeared. From my first contact with Tech Pros Group my commitment to being trained was honored by the provision of a challenging curriculum on which I was tested and several interviews assessing my determination to become a skilled network engineer . They required a certain level of professionalism in the quality of my work and my interactions with staff – all of which they modeled themselves. The technical support was very good. Boot camp was rigorous and profoundly deepened my understanding of the technologies I had been learning during the first stages of the program. The career development and placement coaching were outstanding. I am much more confident in my technical and professional skills and was contacted by five companies within the first two days of posting my resume. Tech Pros Group demonstrated their commitment to effective training and development by providing what they promised with expertise and professionalism.”

Kimberly G.

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Lucky
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Jun 26, 2008 10:39 am EDT

It is what it is.

$95. Admin fee
$344. Admin fee, again...
$495. Training Materials (http://www.safaribooksonline.com/whysafari/how-to-use.php) Rip off! They got their whole training Tech Collection for a 10-Slot $199. Per/year. http://safaribooksonline.com/whysafari/buy-corporate.php

$250. Certified Microsoft Network Administrator exam. Now this one got me Pissed! Week 2 Test = 20% of the internship program. (now this cert is their personal SPOOF, useless cert) and they dont even tell you about it til the Last of wk 1.

$1, 184. Down

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Mr. Blood
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Jun 23, 2008 7:08 pm EDT

Someone,
Seriously, I failed?
No I passed every little thing I went through there and ended up getting a job and actually studied at www.skillsoft.com and www.mindleaders.com before going there and my main point is they don’t teach you FUNDEMENTALS about I.T. that you NEED in the real world.
The reason I post negative thing about this company is because they are a fraud. You are paper certified because there are many people in the field like myself who know A LOT more than you do and I am STILL paper certified.
The comment, “I really didn't know it was possible to learn so much information in such a short time, but I severely underestimated the power of the human brain!” is true. You REMEMBERED ANSWERS TO AN exam that you should actually KNOW the answers to. Do you really think you are not paper certified?
You are still in the brainwash stage from Mr. Choi and Copeland. You don’t know what they say behind your back they are a bunch of crooks. I will admit Ray Choi is very smart. But the “Instructors” that I had were NOT. These comments are from people who have NOT gotten a job yet and don’t yet realize the CRITICAL BASIC FUNDEMENTAL lessons that are left out.
2 weeks and you are MCSE? Use that HUMAN BRAIN you were talking about.
Use that brain dude,
Mr. Blood

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Someone
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Jun 22, 2008 9:51 pm EDT

It seems that Drew Blood went to Tech Pros Group's 3 month camp back in 2006 (based on his comments on Tech Republic) and failed. I am currently in stage 1 of Tech Pros Group's new qualification structure (TPG stopped qualifying their candidates through a 3 month camp a long time ago).
My motto is: live in the present.

I copied and pasted below a few reviews I found on the net from 2 recent TPG candidates. It looks like they also enjoy living in the present and taking full advantage of what they accomplished (based on their comments); see below:

As a recent candidate and graduate from Tech Pros Group I can definitely say it was a great experience where I greatly advanced my technical and professional skills and I am much more confident in walking straight into a job as a network engineer where I know I can perform well.

The staff and the environment were amazing and fun yet professional at the same time, we had our long nights of study and our fun days outside.

Tech Pros Group has a new and very effective approach to train and educate the candidates to become professional network engineers and also gain important skills in resume writing and interviewing. The company is great and has a very hugh potential to excel.

Ahmad.

I just got back home to Ohio this evening after attending the 2 week tech "boot camp". My experience with Tech Pros Group was so positive that I felt compelled to get on here and make sure everyone else knows the truth. I’m doing this because I was very skeptical and cautious at first, and I wish someone had posted information like this for me to read at that time.

Nevermind the negative blogs, as that's a whole separate issue. The truth is that this company is completely professional and over the course of a 4 month period they completely transformed my IT career. After completion of all 3 stages of the program I now have 7 Microsoft certs, and I will be taking my CCNA this week as I'm sure to pass it after the hands on instruction I received at the camp. Furthermore, I can honestly say I am not paper certified. Even though you may use cert prep materials to help you obtain the initial certifications, the labs at the camp are very intense and bring all the knowledge together.

After only 1 day of my update resume being posted on only 2 internet job boards, I have received calls/emails from 5 different companies wanting to speak with me regarding employment opportunities as a network engineer/administrator. Absolutely amazing! I can't wait to walk into these interviews because my technical skills are now sharp and my confidence is at an all time high.

If you are serious about being a network engineer/admin, this company will help you obtain the skills needed in a very short amount of time. My advice is to buckle down and do the labs because the labs books are written by one of the most intelligent people I have ever met. I got a chance to meet and spend time with this individual at the camp, and the level of networking knowledge he has is simply amazing. If you follow and understand the labs, the written CMNA exam will be no sweat. Trust me, you want to work hard to be accepted into stage 2 of the program and give yourself a chance to attend the 2 week camp. I really didn't know it was possible to learn so much information in such a short time, but I severely underestimated the power of the human brain! The training staff goes out of their way to make sure you understand everything you need to know in order to build a Microsoft/Cisco network from the ground up. Like I said before, trust me, you want to be at this camp...

I would not be staying up late at night writing this if I didn't feel very strongly about the class that Tech Pros has shown me during my training. If you're are serious about getting out of your rut and actually getting paid what your worth in the IT field, then put the doubts to bed and do the program. You will be glad you did...

Matt from Columbus, OH

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Mr. Blood
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Jun 21, 2008 9:25 am EDT

Come on
GURU?
Once you get in the field and REALLY learn what you are doing you will find these guys are not Guru’s they are a bunch of idiots.
Your MCSA/MCSE is WORTHLESS until you LEARN something.
I went through the training and they don’t teach you what you need to know.
The program is flopped. They could teach you what you NEED to know but then you wouldn’t have enough time to “motivate me to jumpstart my certification process" from what Mike Cram said.
Give me a break dude, Wait till you do some interviews and get in the work place and you will find out all the BASIC stuff they DIDNT teach you, and you will see how WORTHLESS your certifications are.
Bhadresh Arya seriously you have a Masters? Why then are you wasting time with these guys? I hope they teach you guys more than what they taught us!
They still haven’t answered my questions from a year ago and they answered all yours?
When I was there none of the “Instructors” could tell me what the “Public Folders” were used for or how to use them. Let alone trying to SECURE an Exchange server. I mean you do have a MCSE (Exchange) and MCSE (Security) RIGHT?
Did they teach you ANYTHING ABOUT THAT? NO! Didn’t think so.
I am done for now I could go on about all the holes left out in the FUNDEMENTAL Training but I don’t care to type anymore. So please let us know once you actually start working on something how good the training was.
Mr. Blood

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Olakunle
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Jun 16, 2008 3:17 am EDT

I had just received an email from one Joshua Cheng email JCheng@techprosgroup.com. They now act under another company name LAN and WAN Professionals. www.lanwanprofessional.com. I am grateful God opened my eye to visit this site as i was about paying the $95 application fee this morning.

Can dice, monster and other known sites filter out companies that advertise internship and jobs in their website to help jobs hunters from falling into the wrong hands.

I will like to get feed back if it's the same company acting under another name. Thanks.

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Bhadresh Arya
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Jun 13, 2008 11:52 am EDT

I would like to share my experience with Tech Pros for the the last 4 months as a candidate in LAN/WAN Engineer program!

I am excited to go further for stage 2 training.
Nothing is easy; we need to be dedicated, positive and intelligent at the same time.

Rome was not build in a day!

From day one, TechPros have answered my every single question regarding my stage 1 training as well as contract/ fees & expectations for this program.

At TechPros, Patrick Pule, my Candidate Relations Manager as well as Jason Brandenburg, Tech Support, have satisfied all my questions about the program and my future.

Not only that, they always try to understand and accommodate my needs as a student without any hesitation answering any question.

Replying the phone calls; they have never missed returning my calls. They replied my calls, most of the time on the same day or latest by the next business day!

Now a days, when there are no job securities in the field, we like to work and at the same time we see everyday, Rat Race in corporate world; it is very hard to find a good "GURU" in the IT field.
And I have found my GURUs at TechPros.

Mr. Peter Frivaldi told me in my first interview that you know " This is not for everybody. "

I have all respect for TechPros and all GOOD PEOPLE at TECHPROS.

I will be happy to share my success with my GURUs, because they are my GURUs.

I was looking for this opportunity for the longest; since I graduated with my Masters from Manhattan College. Even, they did not take this much interest to give me the skills, I needed to succeed. I was stuck with most profitable corporation like ExxonMobil.

Again, don't take my words for granted!

Experience yourself; if that's what you want to do.

I''m not counting my mangoes before they fall from the tree; knock on wood!

GOD BLESS YOU ALL !
Good Luck !

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Josh
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Jun 11, 2008 1:47 pm EDT

About four months ago I signed up to Tech Pros and payed the initial $95.00 fee. Then I got a call from Peter Frivaldi and went through the initial interview. Afterwards I got "accepted" in to program, but ever since then I haven't received any follow ups from them; not even on how to get started. They haven't answered back any of my requests. TALK ABOUT A SCAM!

At first I was willing to go through their so called rigorous training program and pay the fees that would come afterwards, such as exams, books, and so forth. I don't think I'll ever get my money back. If it was ever intended for my education, it was only to teach me a valuable lesson: Always do your homework before committing to anything

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