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CommitCRM review: Lack of promised upgrades and features 5

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Hi there,

My business has been using CommitCRM for a few years now; and in the beginning it was nice. however, every year i want to start with a new clean database, and they won't let me do it. the only options they give me are as follows:

1) suffer the old data forever
2) delete each database item 1-by-1 (which never works because the database loses stability long before i finish; causing the server not to work.
3) Buy a completely new system at full price (with users and licenses)

Now, i've just spent nearly $3, 000 just to get my database cleaned out, even though they keep telling me that there's a feature request that will the user to clear the database.

Another main problem is the database. It's a slow, makeshift, cheap database that causes indexing errors and loss of data unless i rebuild the indexes every night. the explanation i got from Commit was that i have too many clients or employees and that i need to pay another $1, 000 for a slightly better database made by the same cheap manufacturers (Sybase, i think... it's called Advantage Database Server). The problem here is that if i could choose my own database which i have open access to, then that could've gotten me passed the clearing databases stage from the DB backend.

CommitCRM always claim that the features that are released are based on user feedback, i'm here to tell you that's a lie. the features that they release get chosen based on what their 2 man development team KNOWS how to do. Every time i talk to Sheli Kopilovitch (technical Services) or Maayan Porat (CEO CommitCRM), they tell me that it'll be added to the next release, and they give me a discounted upgrades subscription (another wasted $350) which is also ### because they promise 4 new versions every year, and in the last 2 years we only got 1 maybe 2 patches to the system.

I've already gotten a demo with ConnectWise, and their customer services are spectacular in comparison to CommitCRM. They have actual people to talk to; and not just email correspondence which they never get because of their overglorified spammer settings. They have no office in the united states or anywhere else within the northwestern hemisphere, they're located in Soudi Arabia or something like that (they get really shady when you ask them about where they are located or how many employees are in the company, which i think are reasonable questions because i want to be sure that CommitCRM don't disappear on me with my updates or go) ; meaning that CommitCRM are not regulated by better business protocols, and getting any kind of return from them do to the client crashes is impossible. These people don't even know how to support their own system. I've had the CEO (Maayan Porat) try to fix the "extra database" which was causing the crashes for hours. In the end; he screwed up my server's registry which is bad since that server was running additional services.

The Reports builder in the software hasn't been touched by CommitCRM's development team ever since they came out with their first versions. This is problematic because CommitCRM employees are the only ones who know how to handle such a cumbersome process.

I'm afraid i'll be leaving Maayan and Sheli and the rest of the CommitCRM community for greener pastures. I just wanted to give the heads-up about this "business" or "Fraud" as i like to call it. so that nobody get's stuck in their web of broken promises, because you'll never get out.

I'd also be really interested to hear if i'm the only one that is feeling left out with an outdated, featureless CRM system, so let me see your comments so to make sure that i am not biased.

With Regards,
Beth Dixon

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danoli
Ormskirk, GB
Apr 25, 2012 1:04 am EDT

In reply to Beth Dixon2,
I agree the staff are very polite, I have no complaint there. The problem is lack of updates based on what we want/need. I requested numerous changes based on feature and security years ago, I pay an annual subscription for updates yet none appear. I pointed out a huge security risk and they acknowledged it and the amazing thing was, they didn't fix it but said they would effectively put it in the list of 'feature requests' and if enough people vote, they will fix it. This is a SECURITY VULNERABILITY that can and will lose data under certain circumstances yet they treat the fix as a feature request.

The software is good on the face of it but the underlying code is very poor. I would stick with them if they addressed the issues raised but unfortunately they are a '2 man band' with little resource to address problems.

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Liselotte Seer
, US
Oct 24, 2017 3:14 pm EDT
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How do you contact CommitCRM staff? I don't find a phone number exept for the one in Tel Aviv, that does not answer..

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danoli
Ormskirk, GB
Apr 25, 2012 12:57 am EDT

I totally agree. I ahve also spent £1, 000's with CommitCRM (I am UK based)

The security of their CRM is awful, search their forums I have posted regarding the inability to lock a session. We actually upgraded to get more licenses thinking it would be good for multi user but turns out that you could be logged in as anyone and assume the role of anyone else by just selecting their name. The security is terrible. We are still with them but desperately looking for something else. The only Plus is that it can be reasonably priced but at the end of the day you get what you pay for...

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Beth Dixon2
, CA
Feb 21, 2012 4:54 pm EST

Dear Beth Dixon
I have been directed to this website by CommitCRM as they believe I am the one who posted this comment. You should provide the name of your company so Commit people will know who it is that has posted the complaint! I have been using CommitCRM for several years now as well and although we have the same name, we don't share the same opinion. I have found their staff to be most helpful in resolving any minor...and I stress this word...minor issues. I especially have never had any complaints with their staff.

Beth Dixon of Pickering, ON

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Mike - Dynamic IT
, NZ
Nov 26, 2011 8:18 am EST
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I've been using Commit for a couple of years now, and have just stumbled across this complaint.

The request to start a new database every year is ridiculous. It would cost way less than $3000 to upgrade to the SQL version with its better performance. The low performance of the cheaper database is known - thats why it is cheaper and the site recommends larger sites buy the SQL version!

ConnectWise has more features, and that is probably why it is VASTLY more expensive. I looked at ConnectWise recently and considered moving to it, but it does not have some of the features I want, and I could not justify paying 4x as much as we do for Commit (annual maintenance fees for Commit are very reasonable).

I send only a handful of support requests to Commit each year, as the product is very very stable. Just look at their support forums and you will see few complaints. I believe all of my queries have been answered within 24 hours by email. Whether they are a 1 person company or a 1, 000, 000 person company, the support we have had has been nothing short of excellent.

I want a new feature now for my Commit, so I'm having my own extension developed using their open API. Easy!

Mike