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Team RMG Ripoff: Public Relations Campaigns

In the summer-autumn of 2014, our New England-based band hired Rhonda of Team RMG Artist Development/Rainmaker Public Relations to conduct a 6-month "Half Campaign" following the release of our first demo CD. We are decidedly dissatisfied with her services and feel that she did not follow through with many of the aspects of her campaign that she advertised to us. Though it would be a stretch to call it a scam, the "Rates and Services" listed on her website (http://www.goteamrmg.com/rates-services/) are hugely exaggerated and in reality, unprofessional and in many cases non-existent. Here's how it will play out: Rhonda will target a band she wants to work with. She will then collect individual phone numbers of each band member and make an extremely friendly personal phone call in which she expresses her admiration of your sound and mission. She will throw in a few gassed up phrases like "Here's a summary of what I do. You are a great artist, but right now you have nothing. I'm here to turn that nothing into something." She'll also pitch you the math on how much money per band member per month is required for the campaign, making it seem like less than it is. You'll then check out her website, which is loaded up with fluffy, nice reviews from 20+ no-namers and a list of past clients that includes Slightly Stoopid and a few other successful, known musicians. (side note: she seems to have abandoned her "Rainmaker Media Group" persona and now operates under "Team RMG Artist Development", and has essentially copied & pasted all the previous reference info). Needless to say, we were very impressed with the personal calls and decided to try her "half campaign" service. It is listed at $1800 + expenses, which is your first red flag, because when asked to clarify, she explained she might need to bill us up to another $200 in expenses, which she billed us for in full before even starting, so the real cost of the half campaign is $2000. We agreed and began our 6-month PR campaign, in which she promised interviews, album reviews, and pitches to various sync licensing houses and booking agents. We never heard from any sync licensing or booking agent contacts even though she promised that would be her focus for the last couple months of the campaign. It seems she has taken these avenues off of her rates and services page. The second red flag came when we received a draft of the press kit she'd been working on for us in the first month of the campaign. The draft included info from our bio and info about our record. It was a mess. Incorrect information, misspelled names and words, and poorly written sentences and paragraphs throughout. The amount of revision it took on our end just about equated to the time it would have taken us to write a much better press kit on ourselves of the same length. When asked about the poor quality she blamed her "LA-based writer" who was still new to the project. Once that was straightened out we were told the campaign was under way and we'd be hearing from her contacts soon. First the reviews, then the "get involved" opportunities. There isn't much more to say because after this early step our communication with Rhonda became scarce and uninformative. On the positive side, we received about 10 positive reviews featured on various indie web publications, including a few interviews with some very nice indie music journalists, with whom we have kept in touch. A few of these spots were followed by the affiliated website/magazine asking if we'd be interested in buying expensive ad space to accompany our review, which felt very "you scratch my back I'll scratch yours" of Rhonda and makes us question how she's connected to these people. We tried via email and phone to get in touch with Rhonda several times throughout the campaign to ask about how things were going, and received either one word answers or nothing at all. The last 4 months of the campaign was just a lot of us asking "Where's Rhonda at with things? When are we going to hear from her? When are these things going to take place?". The third red flag came when we received an email from Rhonda about 4 months in asking if we would write a reference about working with her for a prospective client who she said in the email was "spunky with lots of talent, but hesitant and unsure about the campaign service". We wrote back very politely with a reference saying that Rhonda had followed through on acquiring various press coverage and interviews with us on our album but that all those other things we were promised had yet to happen, and if they did, then we would be happy to reference them. Rhonda wrote back saying "Not what I was looking for but thanks." This was very off-putting and officially shifted our optimism about working with her toward regret...a regret weighing in at 2000 very real dollars. By month 6 the campaign felt so distant that we barely realized that it was over. We made a few polite and then a few terse attempts to reach her for follow-up via phone and email, again failing to connect with her. Perhaps we gave up too quickly, as post-traumatic research has shown that she's taken advantage of a lot of indie musicians this way. The sad conclusion to the story is that we got tricked into a pretty snake oily project as naive, PR campaign first-timers. Frankly, we were busy enough gigging during that time to not focus on making sure we got what we paid for, and neglected to pursue her for reparations or refunds. Had we dug around a little more than we did beforehand we would have found hugely informative reviews on ComplaintsBoard and otherwise that include some of the very specific and terribly unprofessional things she did to us and numerous other clients. Apparently she won't provide material to prove that she's actually doing any work, and can't show a log of her hourly activity: a fourth and final red flag. The point is: don't get lured in by the initial warmth. Rhonda is a great first impressionist but will take your money and lounge about with it while some unqualified grunts do her work poorly, if at all. Stay away. Rhonda's new website: http://www.goteamrmg.com/ Rhonda's Twitter: @GoTeamRMG

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Update by Ethan James
Dec 22, 2015 3:37 pm EST

To those who have gotten this far: thank you for reading. Don't believe me yet? Please read this similar review for her services under her previous name:
Rainmaker Media / Rhonda Kelley — Work paid for not completed
And here's another great one, the comments for which start off in her defense but then bring other victims out of the woodwork:
Rainmaker Public Relations & Artist Development — Rainmaker deal breaker
In this next one we see her response comment quote "I will not mention her name nor her 'stage name" because its not the way I was brought up", although you can see in her above comment that she mentioned both our stage name and attempted to mention one of my bandmates' names (though it was misspelled, another huge red flag about PR work quality):
RMG Artist Development — Fraudulent services

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Rhonda Arden-Kelley
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Dec 08, 2015 8:04 am EST

It still amazes me in 2015 that bands like Blue Light Bandits from Worcester, Ma and Daniel Christopher hide behind anonymous posts like these making accusations that are at best ignorant and unfounded. There seems to be some frustration and anger in this kind of post when all he had to do was ask me about anything and I would have responded with answers. When one hires a publicist like myself, they are hiring us for our contacts. We use personal cell phone numbers and addresses . In retrospect, perhaps I should have passed on Blue Light Bandits because they were so green and new to the business. But I really believed in them. We got them so much press which they still use today and we found them a wonderful national booker. Maybe Mr Christopher needs to stop whining and start making some music again. After 20 years of working with bands like Guster, Motion City Soundtrack, Howie Day, Gavin DeGraw, Emlie Autumn, Patrck Ames, Luke Underhill and so on, over 2, 500 bands and musicians...there are bound to be a few that are not happy. I only wish they would be more direct instead of cowardly.

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Team RMG Fraudulent services

All individuals should be aware that RMG Artist Development was formerly Rainmaker Public Relations & Artist Development. Rhonda Kelly had to change the name of her company due to copyright infringement and the years of excessive complaints about Rainmaker.

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Hitman81
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Dec 17, 2015 2:57 pm EST
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Rhonda worked very hard on behalf of my band and did some very fine work on our behalf. I know both complaints and response comments can all be taken with a grain of salt, but all I can do is comment on my personal experience with RMG, which was very positive. It is also important to note that if you are in a band, you cannot rely on PR alone to elevate you to notoriety. You have to continue to do the work on your own as well. Rhonda was completely honest and above board the entire time we worked with her, and I honestly believe that the motivation behind this complain comes from sour grapes. I wouldn't be taking the time to write this if that were not the case.

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dafrieds
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Dec 08, 2015 11:13 am EST
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I would just like to add as a publication that covers Rhonda's clients from time to time. All she can do is pitch the music and our editors take it from there. Rhonda always presents her artists in a professional and exciting manner. We also know that she will not just work with anyone to get $$. The music biz is not a guarantee to fortune & fame. You must be willing to work at this for many years. You must also realize that not everyone will like your art. That is life and you must continue on. I have seen so many bands that are here today and gone tomorrow. Rhonda is a veteran in this music biz and before you insult her you must first look inside and see maybe you are just not working hard enough. Rhonda cannot promise to make you a huge star but she can help advise & work on your behalf to get closer to that. The rest is all on you!

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bandx
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Dec 08, 2015 10:28 am EST

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I definitely disagree with you. Rhonda is very up-front with you about her past clients and explains any sour relationships with ease. She also still refers to her company as Rainmaker. Most of the complaints I've found on the internet have been due to either lack of effort on the client's part or a set of unrealistic expectations. You can make a diamond out of coal, but you need the right tools. While Rhonda is very straightforward, it's actually a great quality to have in someone doing your press. She's honest, and doesn't give you the run-around in any way, shape, or form. If you're doing a bad job, or your music isn't up to par, be glad she let you know! Honesty in this industry is something that's incredibly rare.

Personally, Rhonda and Co get a solid 10/10. She will always go above and beyond so long as you are willing to do the same!

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MelisKucirek
, US
Dec 08, 2015 10:17 am EST
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I wanted to chime in here and let everyone know that I completely disagree with this original complaint. I've known Rhonda and her team from both RMG Media and her years at Rainmaker Media for nearly 10 years. This business is not for the thin-skinned. She works tirelessly for her clients and as a writer, she values your feedback and time. She's never been anything but professional and alert to my deadlines and schedules. She's quick to provide bios, photos, and sound files for review purposes. I'd like to remind bands and artists that publicity can never be guaranteed...never. And that anonymous posts are just cowardly...everyone preaches about anti-bullying and trying to teach our children to not be cyber bullies. I applaud Rhonda for taking the high road and not trying to get 'even' by using the person's name. - Melissa Kucirek (freelance)

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GoTeamRMG
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Dec 04, 2015 1:10 pm EST

I just saw this post from a former client from Kentucky who I actually had to drop from my roster for issues that will remain private. I will not mention her name nor her 'stage name" because its not the way I was brought up. But I can assure you that there are no copyright infringements nor excessive complaints about my agency. Having been a publicist for 20+ years and working over 2, 500 artists..I am sure there are a handful that think I am horrible and inadequate. But, we do the best we can. Much Love, Rhonda/RMG

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Team RMG reviews first appeared on Complaints Board on Aug 12, 2015. The latest review Ripoff: Public Relations Campaigns was posted on Nov 16, 2015. Team RMG has an average consumer rating of 1 stars from 2 reviews. Team RMG has resolved 0 complaints.
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