Northwind Promotions Complaints & Reviews

Northwind PromotionsLies, deception and cr*ppy job!

I thought it was fishy when I started. Honestly I could not recommend the endeavor to anyone. I will try to put it in a nutshell: I worked an average of 60 hrs/week for about $150 to $250/week in pay. (I would say at BEST you could earn maybe $350/week working your butt off and only if you get assigned to impressively busy events, which is unlikely) You work about 11 hours a day and then a half day on Saturday (which is 'optional' but frowned upon if you don't come in). You're expected to want to stay even later if you are not selling enough.

I was not impressed with standing in the freezing cold, sometimes rain, in front of a Wal-mart or some other business for hours on end jumping around like a monkey to try and sell things off my table.

If you don't sell enough during the day then you might be expected to continue into the evening. They wanted me to walk around a dark parking lot one night to talk to strangers and try to sell them t-shirts. No protection... no credit-giving identification from the company either, just me and some t-shirts. Only 5% of the proceeds actually goes back to even help the 'missing kids' charity they alledge to help.

I had to pay for my supplies. This includes GAS. The events they send you to could be in Savannah or could be up to 2 hours away and you are responsible for getting yourself there and back, no reimbursement. Chances are you'll be at the same event all week long so thats 4 hours of driving, 5 days in a row. And that doesn't even consider a commute to and from your home.

On road trips they stick up to 4 people, possibly of the opposite sex, in one hotel room (something like Motel 6 or Super 8) and you must share a bed with someone you barely know. for a week. On the road trips everyone takes their own car, filled with boxes of uninsured merchandise possibly over state lines, so they can drive to separate events all week long. No reimbursed gas or food costs on that either. If anything happens to the merchandise then you are responsible for paying for it. Hundreds of dollars.

You are paid on profit sharing, which is glorified commission. The only difference is that taxes are taken out which is good. But the downside? Same as commission, you only get paid for what you sell (a portion) and any time you are not selling, you are not making money. Since you are selling t-shirts and crappy plastic generic toys, you can imagine your commission won't be much. Any time you take a day off you are not only not getting paid (no sick pay) but your job is on the line.

After standing outside of a business for hours on end during a week of freezing temperatures and rain, I eventually got sick. Very sick. I had to take a few days off to recoup. Not only were they very put off by the fact that I needed time off but every day I missed my job was on the line because they were bringing so many new people in. The following week I was expected to work extra to make up for the time I missed and that meant, yet again, standing outside for hours on end freezing my butt off and risking getting sick all over again.

You HAVE to report to the office in the mornings and evenings and attend long propaganda meetings and sales pitch practices, you are not permitted to sit at any time. You will spend about 4 hours every day in the office. Making nothing.
There is absolutely no job security. There is no paid training like the job ad says. its all commission (profit sharing)

They have something like 6 or 7 different job ads up on different sites, they range from public relations, marketing, sales, administrative, to management, etc. but they are ALL to bring people in for the same table-selling-in-front-of-some-random-business job. The month I was there, there were only about 6 people out of like 20 or 30 at a time that were employed the entire time. Scary turnover rate.

I guess there are some people who could make money out of a thing like that. They say its not for everyone but I really couldn't see it being for anyone. Even when you make it to "owner" level Quantum Marketing, the "parent" company, can still pluck you out if you do something they don't like. I think if I even wanted to own my own business I would want to get it the hard way and own it fair and square with nobody over my shoulder telling me what to do you know?

So I wouldn't recommend it. Anyone else is, of course, free to form their own opinions however. Anyone who decides to do it anyway... good luck and I hope you have some money in savings, you might need it.

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    Ex-employee Jul 26, 2008
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    They recently changed their name to "Silvalining Marketing Concepts", same company though. Northwind Promotions in sheep skin. I hear even Shinnon changed her name to something else. Different phone number too but same address still. Watch out for them.

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    MadMan87 Aug 04, 2008
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    Totally agree! These people are grade A+ scammers. Im twenty and was trying to find a job in savannah (I live out of town) after sometime I found SilvaMarketing and all of there ads offering 30k to 35k a year. I sent in a resume and got a call from "shannon" saying I had an interview the next day. I tried to explain to her that I was very remote from savannah and needed a more resonable time for an interview. She told me they had to fill the positions by tommorow (kinda last min hiring for a 30k a year job). So I go WAY out of my way to make the trip and go down there and interview. Let me say this before i go any further, Im no idiot and I almost fell for this...there were many "fishy" things that I decided to ignore for one reason or another (maybe I wanted to believe what they said really bad) here are some of the "fishy" things: They operate in a warehouse, they say they have contributors from many well known names (NASCAR, Disney etc) however never show any type of aflliation at any time, the people there are very bad ACTORS! (Our Shannon girl told me she had just started and was there for three days, However the branch manager sliped up and said she had been working there for 3months, and they tried way to hard to make me feel like the "one" (such as "you really impressed me, you wouldn't be here if you didn't" or "So far you are the top runner for the job")
    I got done with the first interview and had to come back a second time for a on-the-job oversee. Which was pretty much me and the so called branch manager standing in front of a kroger and tricking people in to spending their money on cheap-### products that they thought were going to charity. At one time a man bought a flash-light and donated it...about five mins later I saw here throw it back into the "unsoled" box while she thought I wasn't looking THATS CALLED STEALING!
    Anyways, through all of this I still wanted to believe them and was going to join them. They told me I could make up to 900$ a week in up to 6months. They offered me the job and I accepted, however they never gave me a offer-report. This report is a paper saying how much i'll make and put away for 401k, every job has this (very fishy!) Thank God my dad gave me a call later after doing research and told me to tell them to take that job and shove-it. Otherwise I would be royaly ###ed!

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Northwind PromotionsTerrible experience!

I want to start by saying that if you type Quantum, Red Line, Nova 3C, or any of the other companies listed into the search you will find tons, possibly even hundreds, of stories similar to mine and much worse. You will find that the only people defending the companies accused are people who currently work there or those who acknowledge everything we are saying is true but think it is okay nonetheless.

I noticed a ton of advertisements for North Wind Promotions on careerbuilder.com and applied for a job as a receptionist by sending in my resume. The first thing that I noticed was a ton of ads that all said pretty much the same thing, such as 'EVENT MARKETING ENTRY LEVEL' and 'ENTRY LEVEL MANAGEMENT' 'PAID TRAINING' 'RED BULL ATTITUDE' 'SPORTS MARKETING' ect. I didn't really care, since I was applying for the receptionist job, but I did take note that each ad had a different name to contact, from Melissa, to Alexis Davis, to Stacy Walton. It often took me an hour or so to get someone to answer the phone when I tried to call on various occasions. One time, the phone rang and rang and it took four hours before someone picked up.

I received an EMAIL (should have been my first tip) to call to set up an interview with some cookie cutter speech about how I was a perfect candidate. I tried to call another non-existent name and finally managed an interview for the very next day. I needed business dress and a copy of my resume, which they already HAD, from my initial email.

I showed up and waited in a cruddy, tiny room for about an hour with at least thirty other people. The office had two rooms, a 'lobby,' and a bathroom. There were trashy tabloids on the table and an annoyingly loud radio, which struck me as unprofessional. The receptionist couldn't tell me any more about the position I was interviewing for. Finally, we started getting called into interviews by a woman named Shinnon (Shi NAWN). She took each person in for about ten minutes. I should have realized something was up when each person walked out with a giant grin on their face. My turn came and I went in.

Shinnon told me that she just moved with her friends (Tom was one) from Buffalo, NY, where she had been working for two years with North Wind and just relocated to open her own office in Savannah. She pointed to a degree on the wall and told me she had a BA in Marketing from a college in Boston (she would later say she went to Florida State and various other collges). She went out to describe the company in very vague detail. Any specific questions were answered with, 'Go home and check out our website.' (Which is really, really similar to 5thdimensionpromotions.com. Notice the same person designed both websites.)

Shinnon told me that the event-based marketing company worked for many charities and programs, such as the CPEA and DARE. I asked about the receptionist job and she told me that no, this was an interview for an ENTRY LEVEL EVENT MARKETING POSITION... one that I have never applied for.

Nonetheless, it sounded like a cool opportunity and I had no job, so when she told me that she was interviewing 50 people that day and would only call back about 10, I was hoping I'd be one of them.

I was. Only later did I find out that EVERYONE got a call back to set up that interview. 'Adam' left me a message on my voicemail telling me that my resume was great and to call back to set up another interview. I spent four hours trying to call through to the office and all I could think was how small the place was an how maybe ten people actually WORKED there. How could the phone never be picked up?

I went to the second interview after being told it was an all-day chance to experience the company. I showed up with about six other girls and we waited in the lobby for over an hour before someone came to talk to us. While waiting I heard very creepy screaming, yelling, and chanting come from the meeting room. JUICE was a common phrase.

I was taken out a second 'interview' by Shinnon herself. We (me, her, and a 'trainee') got into her really crappy car with a different color door than the rest of it and drove to a... truckstop. We set up a table full of products with the CPEA (child protection education of america) logo on it and began trying to convince people to buy the stuff.

First I noticed that Shinnon lied to each person she talked to, which I suppose is standard sales. Every time I asked her a specific question about a product or a charity, she parroted the same figures back to me. '2000 kids go missing a day' 'you have to hear 10 nos to get one yes' 'laws of average'

NOTE: She continuously told both me and the customers that CPEA received 90% of all their money through North Wind Promotions and they virtually had no funding without us. I looked at the CPEA website and found this 'CPEA has a royalty agreement with various marketing companies in which they sell selected products that contain the charity's name and logo and in return CPEA receives 20% of the retail sales price of those items. The charity and these companies are separate entities and are not partners or agents of the other.'

So. CPEA was getting 20% of the, what, two hundred dollars we pulled in that day? I very much doubt that adds up to ninety percent of their total funding. She also said to ME and to patrons that all these items we were selling went for a ton more money on the website, but the website isn't actually selling these items. The only item I was able to find anywhere else was some ID cards that we were selling for $25 bucks (and telling people that they cost $40 initially and $40 a year anywhere else) at this site. http://www.contemporaryestheticsonline.com/press_release.asp?id=10186901

'At the Amscot grand opening, the Child Protection Education of America, Inc. (CPEA), a national nonprofit organization for missing children based in Tampa, will also be available on site to provide free fingerprinting... An interactive child safety CD-ROM can also be purchased for $5 at the event with profits going to the CPEA for creating the CD-ROM.'

Yeah. We were selling those for $25. Telling people you couldn't get them for less than $40. There is a difference between sales and lying. I have WORKED in sales and marketing before, and we never flat out LIED to our employees or consumers before.

After an entire day of watching Shinnon con people out of money ('Buy this CD for kids,' she'd say, 'And we'll donate it to a needy kid in the neighborhood' but after someone bought a CD she'd chuck it back into the bin of stuff to take home) and answering ridiculous questions on a notepad, Shinnon sat down with me at lunch to discuss the business. She explained how there is no seniority (no higher pay, eh?) and I must have been not paying attention, because I could have sworn she said that I'd make a base pay and then commission from my sales. The more questions I asked about pay the more she threw out 'profit-sharing' and various other terms without actually explaining anything.

Did I mention that I had to sign a form at the beginning of the day saying I wouldn't get paid for my 'interview' but I would receive sales commission? I didn't get that.

She promised that in six weeks I'd be promoted. That it went

· Entry Level Marketing Representative
· Training Manager
· Assistant Manager
· National Manager

She told me that her National Manager, Harmony, was overseeing 50 offices and that she made a million dollars a year. Shinnon told me I'd make 350-400 a week while training and that when I got promoted in six months I'd make at least $1000/wk. She told me she banked 80K a year. All I could think was, 'and you drive THAT piece of crap car?'

After all this we went back to the office. It was nearly 7:00. They had told me that I would only be needed until 6:00. I sat in the office, filled out a meaningless questionnaire, and was invited in for a THIRD interview as I was the only person who had apparently made it through the whole day. Lucky me.

It was then, and ONLY then, that I was told I would be expected to work from 8AM to 6PM every day. Uhh. That's ten hours a day, five days a week. Then she asked how I felt about Saturdays. She talked about team meetings where everyone was 'STRONGLY' encouraged to attend once a week.

Then she said that she started out in the business with no education and no experience but they took a chance on her. Well, err, what happened to that BA you had in Marketing? I'd call that education. I could see the stupid diploma out of the corner of my eye, but she was sitting there telling me she had nothing when she started.

I was offered a position that I accepted, but then I went home and my husband grilled me. The more questions he asked the more I found I couldn't actually answer anything, especially about pay. A lot of things he asked were things I myself had asked Shinnon and she had failed to answer.

I attended work for a few more days but felt creeped out by the lack of information on base pay, the JUICE propaganda in the morning, and the fact that I was told I could write everything off on my taxes if I did them myself. This came after I asked how the company was going to compensate for my food and gas expense.

I thanked them politely and quit. After leaving I came home and tried to research the company that Shinnon had apparently been at for years. I found NOTHING. The closet thing I found was a company called Nova 3C Promotions that was based from Buffalo, NY, which is where she said she was from. (Her cell phone # and license plate were from New Hampshire, though)

Nova's website doesn't exist anymore, but I noticed that if you used whois to look at the North Wind website as well as the 5th Dimensions website I posted earlier, both are registered to the same e-mail address ([protected]@provider Anissa made the website design for both companies) but have different contact names. Northwind was created in March of '07 by Shinnon and 5th by a Lindsey Barnes. That doesn't sound like a well-established company to me. Not even a year. Also, the domain is set to expire in '08.

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    Elijah Powell Mar 26, 2008
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    Wow, I got the same exact spill from them! I went out to the Oglethorpe Mall with Tom. I did not get compensated for my tim either but I did not have to pay for lunch. I realized That these people were pretty flaky by about 10 o'clock the morning of the all day interview, I just had no way to get back to my car! There has got to be some way to stop these folks from doing what they are doing! I just wish I knew how to start the process!

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    Lauren Johnson May 29, 2008
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    Yeah, it happened to me too. I have an Advertising Design degree so a "Marketing Position" sounded perfect! Little did I know that I was walking right into a scam! My first interview was at that crappy little multicolored office on a Saturday. The guy that I thought was the receptionist was actually the only person in the office and he interviewed me. When I asked him about how much does it pay he said $30, 000 per year. He never mentioned that it was a complete commission position! He made it sound like I was going to be paid salary. So when I got called back for the fun fun second interview I thought that I must of rocked! Yeah, I stood outside of Hooters in a suit and pump trying to get people to help save the missing children! Every time that I asked about pay the Trainer said that we would speak about it at lunch. I figured that the company would pay, but no, I had to pay for my food while being told that this is what I would be doing everyday and how you make 20% of the sales and that is it! No base pay and nothing to help pay for gas. I was pissed, but I sucked it up for the rest of the day in which mainly consisted of throwing around a ball back and forth with the trainer and this other guy who was on his third day of training. That morning I was waiting with a big guy in a suit and tie and another girl. The guy never came back. I guess he had a way of getting back to his car. (The trainers car was crap too just like Shinnon's and it had over 150, 000 on it.) So the other girl and I both took our little test that they give you when you return while the rest of the people were in there meeting. She told me how she was at the gas station all day trying to sell some sort of Super Wax! OMG I couldn't believe what I had just heard! So Shinnon invites me into her office to see how I enjoyed the day and I decided that I was going to try and still get this job just to see what other garbage that they would feed me. So she claimed that she started off in my shoes blah blah blah and look at her now at the head of the company. I swear that all of those people were smoking crack or something because I have never seem so much crap come out of so many mouths and to top it off everyone's eyes were blood shot to hell! So when I got home I found out that a friend of a friend had worked for them before. She called her boyfriend on the job and had him come get her outside of KB Toys in the mall. She never looked back. I wish someone could snatch their ads off the job sites. Too many people are getting scammed out of their money.

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    They recently changed their name to Silvalining Marketing Concepts. Same people though. Northwind in Sheep Skin. Different phone number, same address on Old Louisville Road. I hear Shinnon even changed her name to something else. She is quite the manipulator, that Shinnon. I don't know why she wastes her time running this scam, she has such talent. She could be making a TON of money doing almost anything else. Anyway, anybody reading this don't waste your time on this bs job, you'll end up paying out more than you're making in "profit sharing"(ie: commission).

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    Michele Oct 29, 2008
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    I wish I could add more... but I can't. The exact same experience happened to me and I worked at Nova 3C promotions for an entire summer. I was in between sophomore and junior year of college and wanted an internship for the summer. I got the job at Nova 3C thinking it would be an internship but instead... the same schpeal... I became a training manager, traveled to Binghamton, NY (woot!, sorry Bing people) and made enough money to buy a brand new car by ripping people off! Working for them is the most regretful thing I have ever done in my life. They even tried to convince me to QUIT SCHOOL and become a manager for them full-time because I was sooooooo born for it. Makes me sick to my stomach to even think about it. One good thing about it, though, is I am more comfortable speaking to strangers since that all I did all day long every day.

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    carla Nov 19, 2008
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    I am in Ontario and I went for an interview (entry-level managment) yesterday for a company called NewFace Marketing. The interview was (maybe) 10 minutes long. The office was shabby at best and there were 2 rooms to it. There was a mission statement on the wall (which did not list the name of the business). Was told I would make a "salary of $35000 per year". Was supposed to go back today for my shadow training interview thing. They called me 2 hours before hand to make sure that i was still coming. I was talking to the receptionist and I started asking her questions. I live about 30 minutes away from this "business" and I had researched it last night and could find NOTHING except for these types of stories. She couldn't answer any of my questions - how weird is that???? and put me through to the manager. He tried to be smooth. Told me that my "salary" was commission based, no base pay, no mileage, no nothing. He said that NewFace Marketing is owned by Smart Circle International and that the reason i couldn't find anything online about NewFace was because they are new. So, i looked up Smart Circle international, which is the daughter company of DS-Max, a pyramid door to door company that started in the 70's. Needless to say, i did not go back.

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    Dragoonchris Jan 28, 2010

    400 semoran casselberry 32707 202 suite

    This is there new location. Thank goodness I actually researched there "company" before I went to the job interview.

    This is there new website http://www.southeasteventgroup.com/
    and this is even a hidden page on there website that can be found in there source code http://www.southeasteventgroup.com/events_charity.html

    I noticed that the website had been created by http://www.designbyanissa.com/ and so I called them to find out some information about the people who commissioned this website. After a very awkward conversation were I even had to pretend to be the better business bureau (BBB) I KNOW that she is involved with the scam and all her websites on her site are related to marketing.

    I wish there was something we could do about companies like this, is there anyway to get the FBI involved? isn't that there job?


    PS:
    (Sorry I pretended to be the BBB but something had to be pulled out of her.)

    CN

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    Evelyn222 Aug 16, 2010

    Yea, I went on the "all day" interview too, where we sold toys and books to "HELP SAVE CHILDREN" when really only 5% of sales went to HELP CHILDREN - UGH!! I felt sick doing it - they said bring people over by saying, "Want to help missing children?". Ugh Ugh Ugh - 5% to the charity!!! 5%! Over lunch I tried to convince my trainer that this was not a good or honorable thing and that she should do something else because she seemed kinda nice. I never went back -
    This is one of the WORST things I have ever heard of - tricking people thinking they are helping children, when really, only a tiny portion goes to help.

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