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I contated this breeder mid November after viewing pictures on this website of a puppy sitting up on its hind legs. I asked her how much the pup was and if it was available. Nancy emailed me back and said yes it was and the price for full papers was 2200.00. While I was viewing the website my daughter saw another puppy on the same website in available pups her name was Kai for sale and my daughter contacted Nancy about Kai asking if she had any health conditions and if she was available. Nancy replied no health problems & yes she was available. I contacted Nancy again, told her my daughter and I would like to purchase the 2 pups, asked if she would discount them being we were taking 2 pups & she did to 2100.00 each. The day we sent the money out, we got a new email from Nancy on 11/15/2008, in subject New Pics., 5 new pictures 3 of Kai aka as Buffy my daughters pup and 2 of mine. Eight days later we picked the pups up at the airport at 10:55 at night on 11/24/2008 the 2 pups that was shipped to us. At once I noticed the pup I was suppose to get was not the same pup from the pictures. The pup I was suppose to get was a pretty cream color this pup was white, she have very nice pigmentation on her eyes, nose & mouth, this pup had pink pigmentation around her eyes with the exception of a small dot of brown pigmentation on the lower eyelid. The pup I was suppose to get had a beautiful head and was so cute, this pup was quite oppisite. We also noticed my daughters pup Kai aka Buffy had a large hernia which Nancy never told us about. I contacted the Breeder as soon as we got home via email telling her my concerns. She replied its the same pup. I then took our pup to the vet, they both had small ear infection, nothing to worry about and the vet said the hernia can be fixed with a simple surgery with an extra cost of 150.00. But what was more concerning to me is my vet said that the pup was not the age that Nancy had told me. The pup had already lost all her baby teeth and her adult teeth were most of the way in. Nancy said my pup was only 13 weeks old but my vet said it had to be at least 5 months old or older. To make the story short, I contacted the breeder with all the concerns I had, she told me if I wasn't happy to send the pup back and she would refund me. Nancy knew we had a contract with me, but still offered me my money back. Nancy sent me the money via paypal to pay for her to be shipped back & made the reservation to ship the pup back, and I sent her back. Nancy said via email she would sent me my refund as soon as she got the pup back. I contacted Nancy about a week later about my money. She told me she wanted to make sure the pup didn't get sick and would refund me after 2 weeks, I did not think that wasn't unreasonable, so I waiting. After 3 weeks I contacted the Nancy again about my refund and the AKC papers on my daughter pup Buffy, she told me she sent them but to this day have never received the hard copy. But then she emailed us a copy of the front page of the AKC papers via email and we were able to register her. But on the refund, she told me I wasn't going to get it and I haven't. She had emailed me earlier just before I returned my dog and said she wanted Buffy back also because she found I was a breeded and I never told her, but she never asked and called me a puppymill. She said she did not want me to have any of her pups. Later after writing my story on Rip Off she posted her side of the story, saying I changed my mind a week later which was not true. Saying I paid way under what she was asking only because I purchased 2 pups, we got a discount of 100.00 on each pup, not 1000.00 like she put on her rebuttle. Then she said that she would have given me another pup, but I did not think that was an option after what she had said earlier. I contacted Nancy, said I would take a pup at this point I wasn't going to get my money unless I fly out and sue her. I told her I would fly out to pick it up, she said she had 2 litters coming so I waiting for the pups to be born. The first litter was out of the same exact breeding as my daughter dog, yes she bred Buffy's Mom again 6 months after having Buffy which was born a C-Section. Well when that litter was born she had only one pup and it was a blue female, that was so funny back when we were purchasing our pups last November I asked her if they carried blue and she said no. Well, I question her again and she said well I found its on the dads side. But I have done a lot of research on the blues and its a deluted gene and would have to be carried on both sides to get a blue. If only on one side you will only get some carriers but will never get a blue. I knew she was lying and if it was true I would love to get a blue from that breeding. I asked Nancy how much was she asking for the pup, she told me 5500.00 I told her I would get the pup and when I come out to pick it up I will pay the balance. That wasn't good enough, she wanted me to send another 1000.00 after she is holding 2100.00 of my money from the pup I sent back. The 5 pictures Nancy sent to me on 11/15/08 stating new pics on the subjest, the 3 pictures taken of my daughter dog Buffy was taken on 11/15/08 taken the same day we got the pictures but the one of my pup was taken on 2/6/08 six months before my pup was even born, I found this out right before sending the pup back by right clicking on the pictures. The picture I took of my pup was taken on 11/25/2008 eight days after getting the picture Nancy sent to us & the day after getting the pups. Pictures below the first picture was send to me on 11/15/08 by Nancy, the second picture was the picture I had contacted Nancy about, the third picture is the pup I got.

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Update by Donna
Apr 21, 2009 8:00 pm EDT

Well, just like I said, she frauded me. I asked about that pup as you can see below the I sent to her and her return email, nothing saying its an picture of a past pup. Then she sent me 2 more pictures that looked just like the pup sitting up. As you can see the 2 pups look alike and the one I got does not look like the pictures she sent and the one on her website under available pup.

In a message dated 11/14/08 04:50:09 Pacific Standard Time (Mexico), frenchies@xtremefrenchbulldogs.com writes:
$2200.00 full reg. akc champion sired. Thanks

goldriverr@aol.com wrote:
You have received the following from 'Donna Shannon':

Wondering how much your asking for the cream female what is sitting up on her back paws? Looking for full papers. Thank you Donna

I have a copy of her websit available pup back when I purchased the pup, it shows all the pups available including the pup & several other pups, her website now show no pictures of pups only contact for available pups, she does not want me to know what the 2 litters had. If someone can call and check for me, I have tried but she know my number and has caller ID.

Update by Donna
May 16, 2009 8:04 am EDT

The pictures did not load the way I put them on, the pup that is white is the one I got, and the other 2 pictures of the cream Frenchie is what I was suppose to get. Donna

Update by Donna
Jun 29, 2009 8:57 am EDT

Hi Michelle, you were lucky. There were others that was not so lucky. There was a lawsuit against Nancy Pier for taking money and not giving anything, but I found out they settled. I had heard that the settlement was Nancy had to pay out, but the lady had to keep quiet on what she did to her. When we purchased my pup my daughter also purchased a pup at the same time. My daughter got the puppy she had order but she had a severe umbilical hernia that she did not tell us about it. It would have been nice to know she had this before purchasing her. I love Buffy my daughters dog, she is a wonderful dog so at least we got one right pup or we would have been out 4500.00 in losses. Nancy said she was going to give me a puppy to replace that terrible pup she sent to me. But when the pups were born she said there was only 1 blue pup born in the litter. But after contacted the breeder of her lines on her dogs they said there would never be a blue produced out of those lines. So again she lied to me, she did not want to do right by me I gave her every opportunity before I wrote anything to rip-off or here, I waited several months after she had promissed to pay me back after sending the pup back. She was mean and rude to me. She also got onto Rip-off and pretended she purchased a puppy from me that was very sick, saying I was this terrable breeder that had puppymill conditions. Rip-off was able to find she had loged into her own account and changed her name so that I could not see it was her. But Rip-off did find it was her and wrote this was made up by a scam artise. As I said you were lucky you did get the right pup, and if he is from the breeding she said it was from you will have a nice dog. But again I don't trust anything she has said, she lies about everything.

Update by Donna
Sep 26, 2009 3:56 am EDT

Dear Erin DeLeo, I am so sorry to here about your experance with Nancy Pier. I do understand how you feel and have felt the same way. But don't let one bad breeder keep you from purchasing online. There is many wonderful breeder but you have to do your homework, get references, call them and really make sure you really feel confortable with the breeder. Believe me it can happen even if you go to their home. Just after sending my pup back to Nancy I went to what I thought was a breeder here in California, later I found she was a puppy broker. She told me that her dogs are the parents but really she is going out of country and purchasing puppies and bringing back to sale and who know who the real parents are.
I have been a breeder of show/pet Labradors for 22 years. I'm getting older and was looking for a smaller breed that I can have in my bed with me and easier to take care of. I went over to a fellow Labrador breeders home and met her French Bulldogs and fell in love first sight. I could not wait to get my first Frenchie and when I went to the airport with my daughter to pick up our pups, I was so disappointed when I looked at her beautiful pup and my very bad quality pup. I have since purchased a beautiful frenchie, she is everything I wanted and I love her so very much. She potty trained quickly and sleeps with me.
I have been watching for Nancy Piers ads, she has since taken down her website and I cannot find any new ads so lets just hope she has gone out of business. She has been a very bad person and written some really bad things about me to get even with me for me writing my story on here and Rip Off. But if what I did stopped her at least I have saved others from the pain and disappointment you and I have both felt.

Update by Donna
Feb 04, 2011 9:47 pm EST

Wow, cannot believe all that has been said since I wrote my story. Yes Buddhabulldogs.com is Nancy Pier and yes she is back selling dogs with many medical problems. We have now fixed Buffy after breeding her one time and all the pups was born with medical problems and placed into good family homes with no papers and all been fixed. all but our dear little Cricket who is in heaven do to his medical problems. I'm so sorry more families had to go threw the pain and losses as we did. I went into Nancy's new website and the health guarantee is the same and some of the dogs are the same but no names or pedigrees, and yes no name on the website to hide who she is. I hope and pray she does get shut down because I have talk to so many others that have lost thousands from her. She is nasty, mean and uses discusting language. She made me cry and angry and I did not trust to purchase online. I have learn since to get references and talk to them personally. I myself like the blues & chocolate and don't care if they can show I think they are beautiful & and long as they are healty. I have just purchased a girl & boy from a wonderful breeder in Hungary. She is a Vet there and did xrays to make sure all is good before shipping them to me. Now its not AKC that makes up the rules for the breeds but the breed clubs. You can register a blue french bulldog as blue with AKC, but the clubs are who say what is and isn't allowed in the show ring.

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Glenwood, US
Jun 22, 2012 8:50 pm EDT
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Thanks for the info. State attorney is gonna love that.

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souknow1
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Jun 22, 2012 6:39 pm EDT

Make that sunburstbulldogs.com located in Florida.

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SoUKnow
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Jan 04, 2012 5:05 pm EST
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She is in Fl., she never stopped breeding and her new web address is inceptionbulldogs.com

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justknow
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Nov 13, 2011 5:54 pm EST
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Also she hasn't bred dogs in over 2 yrs. I know I bought all her dogs.

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justknow
st. louis, US
Nov 13, 2011 5:39 pm EST
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She is in missouri.

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jaersmur
Haines City, US
Sep 20, 2011 7:42 pm EDT

Nancy Ellen Bell (Nancy Huggins Bell, Ellen Bequette? Nancy Pier? Nancy Jane Bequette?) is now located in Davenport, FL, 229 Mango Court, Polk County. You may like to to send her a demand letter for payment. Or you may wish to have her served personally in your lawsuit, contact the Polk County Sheriff's Office or a process server. The Polk County Sheriff can be reached at [protected] for Civil Process Dept. http://www.polksheriff.org/Pages/default.aspx Here is a link to help with finding a process server: http://www.serve-now.com/process-server/florida/polk-county The current property owner/landlord is seeking to evict Nancy and friends, so hurry to get her served or to send your demand letter to her.

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Tacoma, US
Feb 04, 2011 10:08 pm EST
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Thank u @Donna. She also made me cry and very upset. We can either sit here and cry or we can take our expirences and make them into something great. We can take this and learn from our mistakes, but I'm sure one day she will be shut down sooner or later. But I'm over it because now I have a wonderful frenchie puppy, and she's my world, and without the hastle from buddahbulldogs.com or nancey pier. T the puppy I got was in better condition and less than what she was offering, so I took her advise and found a puppy for a cheaper price. She judge other dogs and breeder by saying "the cheaper the dog the more its gonna cost" or something like that, and I did find a cheaper frenchie and she didn't even cost me a single dime of vet bills, so she was judgemental to me. So her lost our gain. Just keep your head up and move foward from this, because at the end she's a nobody, but a horrible breeder. I hope you don't hear anything from her ever again, and best of wishes too u @Donna. Bye. :)

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Tacoma, US
Jan 18, 2011 7:32 am EST
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And I pray that those people who got riped off gets what they should have gotton in the beginning. But at the end I'm glade I had this experience, because it taught me that "you can't trust everybody, and nobody was raised like you". Which means, don't expect all the time evryone to be just as nice as you are, because at the end everybody was raised different, and that's what it goes down too at the end.
I know buddhabulldogs.com will get shut down someday, and nancy will get her business shut down too, I'm not 100% sure if nancy is the owner of the buddhabulldogs.com, but all I know they have the same problem "liers, nasty, and just plain crazy". At the end they will both get what they should have gotton in the beginning which is "karma" just try to move on everyone, and for those who bought great dogs from "nancy or buddhabulldogs.com" you are lucky, this has nothing to do with you, if you don't believe me on hat I said about "buddhabulldogs.com" I will be more than happy to get your email and forward you all of the emails that I have listed.
I know I am a nice person, and so are you who got riped off, and I know we will eventualy get what we should have gotton in the beginning which is "quality french bulldog puppy"
Just keep your heads up and on the look out for people like that and just move on and don't look back.
God bless you all, bye.

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Jan 18, 2011 7:24 am EST
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Well if as you say you know about frenchie and the AKC standard WHY would you even be looking at a choc pup?  ALSO if you know frenchies cost $2000 or $3000 why would you insult me and my dogs by offering me $600 and then telling me you will pay $200 for ground shipping.  NO ONE will ground ship for less then $400.  AND if you know they have to have c-sections and A.I.ed why would you think that $600 is a fair price.  Do you have any ideal what it cost to show a dog to it's championship?  Since I didn't try to sell you a dog for $10, 000 you certainly didn't need to make the comment about breeders jacking up the price to make a quick buck when this female was VERY FAIR in price as a matter of fact she is under priced by a $1000.  You lumped every frenchie breeder into one pile.  Also you comment all breeds
need formula to stay health and strong is way off base.  Most breeds have a mother that has milk when they are born.  Because frenchies have c-section their milk doesn't come in for a wk or so.  So all breeds are not paying for formula.  What someone else charges you has nothing to do with me or my dogs so I don't care.  I'm certainly not going to train, vaccinate, housebreak, deworm, feed and crate train your dog for free for the next 3 months either.  If you board a dog it is easily $12 a day so 90 days at $12 a day is $1080 plus vac and she would also need a rabies shot by then.  So you want to pay me $600 for the puppy $200 for ground shipping $800 total.  It would cost me $400 to ship $1080 for board and food.  $125 vac and deworming.  So for me to sell you this puppy it would cost me $1605 less the $800 you want to pay leaves me in the hole $805.  REALLY! 
#1 You aren't a customer, #2 I didn't yell I told you,  #3 How you think I handled it isn't a issue I don't care what you think, #4 clearly you can't afford a puppy if it is going to take you 3 months to pay for her, #5 I'm not angry I don't waste the effort on being angry and since you don't know me you have no ideal if I am angry or not, #6 if I ever have a attitude you will know it!, #7 most important of all "I WILL NEVER APOLOGIZE SINCE THE ONLY PERSON WHO NEEDS TO APOLOGIZE IS YOU AND I WOULD NOT EVEN CONSIDER YOU A SUITABLE HOME FOR ONE OF MY PUPPIES!"  As my ad reads I reserve the right to refuse the sale of a puppy to whom I do not feel is a suitable home and I am exercising that right now.  You are not a suitable home for my puppy.  Thanks
 
Spell check is a awesome tool check it out."
I was in shock, and then she said "guess you sent this while I was replying to your email.  Don't worry about my dogs.  You really need to use spell check" after she didn't see what I sent her. So she went all crazy on me for no reaseon, but I didn't see that email until I said "Actually I said "so I know all about the wrinkles" not what you said which was "I know all about the frenchies". I didn't mean to upset you at all. And you are probably right abou the formula thing, because I have clearly said "I probably dont know as much about french bulldogs as you do since you are a french bulldog seller ans owner". And I did apologize to you I said sorry 2 times actualy, and I was trying to say "lets both say sorry, and put this all behind us" and for you to say "#4 clearly you can't afford a puppy if it is going to take you 3 months to pay for her, " I think that is very rude for you to sit there and say that. And you know what the economy is bad right now so of course its going to take me a while to pay for her, but thats none of your business and it shouldnt even matter if I pay for her and already have all othe the supplies. And when you said "#1 You aren't a customer, #2 I didn't yell I told you,  #3 How you think I handled it isn't a issue I don't care what you think, "
Actauly I could have been a potental customer, if I am looking to buy a dog from you it is considered a customer wheather or not I buy a puppy from you. And about the whole "im not yelling" this is forst grade, if you put "IM NOT YELLING AT YOU!" (For an example), the all caps mean "im angry and yelling" and the ! Means the same thing and you are techonaly yelling at me. And I dont need to know you to tell you are angry and yelling at me. And not only did you just lost a customer, ypu lost future costomers, because even though this happened I was willing to put this all behinde me and tell others about your business in a good way, and you just messed that up. And you can sit there and say "I dont care, you arent even worth it" (as an example) you never know who I know, I could know someone famous and tell them about my experience with you. That mess ups your business. I am giving you thatg advise wheather you want it or not, because I dont want to see your business go down from that. So if I were you I wouldnt say that to another customer, because they could know anybody who could mess up your business.
Now I am done with your "[censor] talking" now, you arent even worth it. And I hope you get what you desurve from karma, cuz "karma is a [censor], and she will get you now or later". I am not going to apologize again due to the fact you didnt want to put this all behind us obviously, and I said sorry 2 times, i am not going to begg for your forgivness. Try not to die in hell. Bye and best of wishes to you
Ps, this didnt work due to the fact we are both 2 peoples who speak their mind, if that wasnt the case this wouldnt have happened." Now I got rude only because I felt attacked more than twice, several times actauly as you can see. I felt cornered and just spit on by her. So after I sent that she emailed me saing "Quit bothering me.  THE MINUTE YOU OFFER $800 AND TOLD ME $200 WAS FOR GROUND SHIPPING AND THAT WAS YOUR HIGHEST OFFER AND YOU WANTED ME TO KEEP FOR 3 MONTHS YOU WERE NOT A CUSTOMER.  You are now blocked from my email."
I again said sorry about that whole thing, but when she wrote that, it made me cry. I never ever in my whole life have ever been talked to like that, expecailly if I am a customer. You just don't talk to customers no matter how rude they are, which at first I do admit I came off as rude, but apologized for the confusion in the beginning of the cause of my rudeness. She was being rude, mean, horrible seller, not nice, and just down right nasty and dirty to me.
So after that last email I called my best friend had her come over I was too bussy crying about this and my friend sent this email to buddhabulldogs.com "Spell check, see you cant stop being a complete [censor]! I dont even know you like that again I was trying to be nice and I was still going TO TELL OTHERS ABOUT HOW GOOD QUALITY YOUR DOGS ARE AFTER YOU ACTED LIKE A COMPLETE [censor] OF YOU SELF!  YOU NEED TO CHECK YOURSELF, BECAUSE YOU ARE A HORRIBLE SELLER! I WAS TRYING TO BE KIND ENOUGH AND GIVE YOU A CHANCE AND HOPE YOH WOULD BE KIND TO MY FRIENDS, BUT I CAN SEE YOU WOULD BE A [censor]! AND DONT WORRY ABOUT YOUR DOGS! I WAS TRYING TO BE NICE AND SHOW I DONT WANT TO STAY MAD AT YOU! THATS GREAT, JUST GREAT, YOU NEED TO TAKE LESSONS ON HOW TO TREAT CUSTOMERS BECAUSE YOU ARE FAILING RIGHT NOW.
NOW BEST OF LUCK WITH YOUR [censor] BUSINESS. BYE!" She was at the moment being me while I was in my room crying. I'm not proude of what she said, but do I regret her saying that "nope". Why, because who ever ownes the "buddhabulldogs.com" "nancy" or who ever was being mean and rude. So rude she made me cry. I was just done at that point. So my friend sent one more email saying "Good to know, you i both know you [censor]ed up, and obviously obviously arent sgtrong enough to handle things. Go to hell ad stay there because you belong with other low lives like you. Bye."
At that point I was done crying, but that whole experience was horrible and I don't ever want to wish that on anybody else. I feel she should be put out of business for good, she acts like trailer trash, and I have nothing else to say to her but aall I can tell you is this, "I WOULDN'T IN A MILLION YEARS EVER, EVER, EVER IN MY WHOLE LIFE BUY ANYTHING FROM HER OR SEND ANYBODY TO HER UNLESS THEY WANT BAD SURVICE AND A BAD QUALITY DOG FROM WHAT I HAVE EXPERIENCED AND OTHERS WHO HAVE EXPERIENCED HORRIBLE PUPPIES FROM HER! IF YOU CHOSE TO BU A DOG FROM HER ALL I CAN SAY FROM EXPERIENCE JUST BE CAREFULL OF HER, AND DON'T LET WHAT SHE SAYS EFFECT YOU IN ANYWAY." I send my blessing to those who had a horrible time like I had, and who bought a dog from her which wasn't 100% healthy

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guest9297
Tacoma, US
Jan 18, 2011 6:57 am EST
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She is $1150 if you want her shipped it is a additional $300.  April is to far away to hold a pup.  I suggest you go back to puppyfind there are cheap dogs on there all the time.  This is a AKC champion sired puppy doesn't matter if you don't want to breed or show or a pet (all our dogs are pets first!) you still want a puppy from health tested parents and bred to akc standard.  "The cheap ends up expensive"  No Thanks" she said that to me. And I was very hurt and didn't know what to do. She made me sound like I was a puppy mill owner, which I am not, because I have not once ever breed anydog in my whole life, so its impossible for me to be a part of a puppy mill. So she insaulted me again. I had enough, but I tied to be nice and said "Ok thank you sooo much for your time. Actually I found I puppy locally, and I am sorry if I came out as a forward person. I was just trying to cut to the chase and tell you my offer, and I was trying to say "I had someone trying to sell me puppy for $10, 000. And it wasnt even AKC standard. And I can tell you do care about your puppy, and aren't trying to sell your puppies for money." Which I really do appreciate that. But i will let others know about you and your puppies,  because they disurve a nice family. And I am glade to hear they are pets first, that means even better quality personalities, right? Thank you for your time, good bye."
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Tacoma, US
Jan 18, 2011 6:51 am EST
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Buddhabulldogs.com is this nancy lady! No wonder. I was going to buy a dog from her, but I said something she didn't like which was this "I have done some research on the french bullodg for the past 5 years, like what are considered AKS standard color coats, due to the fact must sellers over price to make a quick buck" some of my letters to my sentence was missing I think it got deleted on accident. Before I said "I have done some research on the french bullodg for the past 5 years, like what are considered AKC standard color coats, due to the fact a seller before over price to $10, 000. To me I felt like they were trying to make a quick buck on a chocolate french bulldog which says on the AKC website it isnt even considered as a french bulldog standard, therefore couldn't qualify in a show." Somehow a part of my sentence was missing, and I know I missspelled a lot of things, but she later on then said "spell check is a great tool, you should use it". To me that was insaulting, and what got me mad was the fact I apologized earlier for the miscomuniacatioj and told her what happend with the whols "quick buck" thing. But then she sat there and said and I qoute from my email "A little help in your search for a puppy...your comment
 "due to the fact must sellers over price to make a quick buck."
You clearly haven't done enough research.  Frenchie have to have c-sections $700.  They have to be A.I.ed  $500 with prog testing.  Stud fee $800.  That is $2000 just to get the litter on the ground.  Average litter is 3.  Now let's add in vaccinations and deworming $100 per pup so another $300.  24 hr care the first 2 wk "priceless" but we'll just take a middle of the road figure for that say $700 that isn't even counting the everyday expenses food, washing blankets, formula for the first wk (take that long for moms milk to come in" let's just say another $400 so where are we now?  3 pups @ $1150 $3450 less expenses of $3400 $50 quick buck!  maybe I was lucky and got 4 puppies awesome $2000 profit for the whole yr.  You are insulting and you think you are a know it all.  In the future I
suggest you actually do the research before running you uneducated mouth.  Best of luck in your search your going to need it with your attitude!". Now I told her what happened, and said sorry more than 10 times saying "I'm sorry if I insaulted you" and ect. I honestly felt attacked by her. And for her to act like that, I didn't even say she was selling her puppies to make a quick buck, I was talking about other dog owners. And I then said to her in a reply "No, I know that, but im am talking about when they try to sell a french bulldog puppy for $10, 000. Not $2, 000 or $ 3, 000. Because someone tried to sell me one for $10, 000 plus. I know french bulldogs cost more due to the fact they have to have surgery in order to have puppies, and they cant have puppies on their own due to the fact they are built diffrent then most dogs as matter of fact. Thats why I started to do some research due to the fact that happened to me. And, it was a chocolate frenchie, which aren't considered AKC standard for the breed, so therefore the owner shouldn't have priced the puppy for $10, 000, if it wasn't even a AKC standard. Even blue french bulldogs aren't considered AKC standards for a french bulldog, which I got from the AKC website it's self. And if someone wanted to enter that french buldog on a show, it couldn't even get qualified due to the fact, it does't meet AKC standards for a french bulldog. So I do know a bit about the french bulldogs. That's my reason I did some research, so that I couldn't make a mistake on something like that, and I just wanted to know how to properly take care a french bulldog puppy too. And after I did that I fell in love with the breed. Also, any breed of dog haves to have formula to stay healthy and strong. And I didn't want to say the whole "some seller was trying to sell me her chocolate french bullodg for  $10, 000" part, due to the fact I thought it would be rude, because I thought you would take it wrong and take it like "so my puppies aren't great quality french bulldog puppies" which isn't the case.
I wasn't even trying to insault anybody. And I think you tottaly handled this situation wrong, for you to sit there and pretty much yell at a customer is rude to me. But on the other hand I completly understand what you are saying, what I said wasn't going towards you I was just telling you why I liked you and your puppies better, compared to that other french bulldog seller who was selling her puppy for $10, 000 and honestly your french bulldogs are way way way better quality than her puppies. And I never said "I know it all" you just put words in my mouth. So right there you are making yourself more angry for saying I am acting or think I know it all, which isn't the case at all. Because I know, I know very little compared to someone like you, and others due to the fact you are a french bulldog breeder and seller and have probably have been doing this for years. I am not having any "attitude", which i think for you to pull that out of just a text is just plain crazy. Actually you are having an attitude with me, so its backwards. Im sorry if I have upseted you. But you have done even worse than what I have said, so I think you should say sorry to me for the way you have acted. I have no hard feelings against you. So we should just put this all behind us, because I know you are selling very great quality puppies, and i just want to start over if you are willing to."
I thought that I was being nice, well compared to someone else wo probably would have been like "I'm done bye". Instead I tried to apologize and put this all behind us. Later on I found a french bulldog by someone else and bought her, she lives with me now. But earlier she sent this email and I quote "

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Peke Guy
, US
Jul 14, 2010 12:56 pm EDT

You didn't stop her. Her new website is buddhabulldogs.com

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Erin DeLeo
Wilmington, US
Sep 19, 2009 6:07 pm EDT

My husband and I sent her $2200 about 2 years ago, and never got the dog we picked out. She said that it was deaf, and that we need to pick another one from another liter that was to be born in a couple weeks. We did not want another puppy, we wanted the one that we paid for. We asked for our money back, and even told her she could keep the $500 deposit. She never gave us our money back...or another puppy. Turns out she has been doing this to MANY...and we spoke with a lawyer with another person that has sued her for doing the same thing to them. That lawyer told us he got nowhere in the case. She is on probation, and has no money/nothing to even take. I just don't understand how she can KEEP doing this. We will NEVER buy from an online breeder unless we can drive to the breeder and pick up the puppy ourselves.

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Michelle696
Los Angeles, US
Sep 12, 2009 3:55 am EDT

im sorry to hear that. My father and i appreciate the fact we got him. I agree that i was lucky. I hope you truley get the frenchie you hope of.

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michelle929
123, US
Jun 19, 2009 6:27 pm EDT

i bought a puppy from nancy and she gave us exactly what we asked for. his name..champ

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qcgirlie
Rock Island, US
Apr 21, 2009 7:26 pm EDT

i am positive that the third picture you have posted was on the breeder's website around july 2008