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www.camouflageids.com / www.noveltyidforum.org review: The most sophisticated fake ID scams ever 80

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These scammers changed there web address from .com to .org so I am reposting this so people can still be informed about there scam still.

THE LINK BELOW IS THE ORIGINAL POST, COPY AND PASTE THE LINK INTO YOUR BROWSER TO READ OTHER PEOPLE TELL HOW THEY GOT SCAMMED BY THEM ALSO.

ORIGINAL LINK:
http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/wwwcamouflageidscom-wwwnoveltyidforumcom-c10544.html

I was scammed out of $160 by 2 of the most sophisticated fake id sites ever camouflageids.com and noveltyidforum.org.

I paid them $160 through e-gold and and I was promised to have my id shipped right out from the time I paid them. Well 7 days went by and nothing in the mail. I emailed camouflage but never got a response. After 4 weeks of trying & trying I just gave up. These ### scammed me and I am pissed. I had been scammed and there was nothing that I could do about it because e-gold is non-refundable.

The sneakiest part is how they scam unsuspecting people like me. I didn't find a lot of this out until after I was scammed but noveltyidforum is a site dedicated to writing false reviews to trick the buyer into ordering from their other scam site camouflageids which steals people money and never delivers product. They make sure to accept e-gold because it is non refundable. They might switch over to another non-refundable online digital currency service because of e-gold getting semi shutdown right now because so many scammers use e-gold like these scam artists do.

This scam run by camouflageids and noveltyidforum is a resurfaced scam that took place for a long time. A while back there was a scammer forum site called www.fakeidman.org & it's partner site www.phonyid.com. Fakeidman.org was a scam forum built for the sole purpose of directing people to buy from the scam site phonyid.com. Fakeidman.org scam forum had hundreds of false threads as well as thousands of false posts.

Noveltyidforum is the same exact scam right down to the tee, noveltyidforum has hundreds of false threads with thousands of false posts to direct people to the scam site camouflageids. It's the same scammer writing all of the phony posts.

These greedy scammers go through great lengths to get your money and scam you. Here is some more details so you don't get scammed like I did, I didn't even see it coming but I hope I can save you money so you don't get ripped off like I did. I'm so mad it's not even funny. Fakeidman.org even had a section listing a bunch of competitor scam sites to try and make themselves look legit as well as make there competitor scam sites look bad.

Noveltyidforum has the same exact thing on there scam site. Noveltyidforum and camouflageids are run by the same guy who ran fakeidman.org and phonyid.com. The scammer just brought back the same scam again but under different names this time.

There is no mention of fakeidman.org and phonyid.com in the scammer section of noveltyidforum. Noveltyidforum also won't allow any posts to be made about fakeidman.org and phonyid.com because they run the same scam. These scammers really have gone through great lengths to trick people, I decided to take a risk with them and got burned. This is the 2nd time I have been burned by scammers. I am losing all hope of ever finding a fake id.

There are also stories that these scams go deeper than the surface, possibly identity theft. This camouflage guy who also goes under the name "Digital Chaos & "DC" & "l3ushwig" is a member of cardersmarket which is the biggest identity theft site on the planet. I've heard people say that camouflage sells the people that he scams info on cardersmarket for big bucks.

Camouflageids & noveltyidforum are suppose to be set up so that they record your internet protocol address which is used for snooping packets that he uses to search for files on your hard drive that he could use. I was pissed when I heard that he sells your photo that you email him along with your home shipping address, phone number, e-gold #, I.P. address, plus god knows what else he sells of yours. But he has been said to sell it on cardersmarket site and people then use that for identity theft.

Carders market is a multi million dollar crime syndicate. The F.B.I. busts the site quite frequently. If I could get my hands on the guy who scammed me it would not be good for him. It seems impossible to find an online seller that is legitimate. Every time some scammer pops up like these slimeballs.

www.camouflageids.com is a scam www.noveltyidforum.org is a scam . They are simply www.fakeidman.org & www.phonyid.com rehashed all over again. I hope that this review was helpful to you in your search for a fake id so you don't get ripped off too. These ### should be put in jail for scamming.

Please view my original post at the link below to read how these scam artists scammed other people like me also, don't let this happen to you like it did me.
http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/wwwcamouflageidscom-wwwnoveltyidforumcom-c10544.html

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kathy
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Nov 06, 2008 11:59 am EST

all i have to say is that i got scammed by i.d.u-net .. that mother###er david duncombe..
BEWARE OF THIS A HOLE!
WHEN YOU SEE THIS NAME ITS AUTOMATICALLY A SCAM.. trust me hes a sneaky ###...and

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YeahTrue
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Oct 12, 2008 2:52 am EDT

I paid DC almost 11 months ago and just got my cards last week. The cards are brilliant. The guy defenitly knows his stuff on levels I have never seen. But they are poorly run. It makes you do feel ripped off. I am not calling DC a ripper because I know he not. But 11 months? He posted about all kinds of problems I lost track and honest felt ripped off. But he did come through and the cards like I said are the best I could want. I dont know. I would order again in a second but there has to be better delivery. For me it was worth it and I can show you the cards. You will faint if you have tried hard like I did. I hope DC gets back to were he was before I join NIDF because I read those reviews and they were really true what he makes. You can say what you want I just hope the best for DC because when you get them cards you don't feel ripped you feel sorry for him some how since you know what he could be with that. I know he is only a web ghost like all sellers but you just do because you know he didnt lie about the cards and all of them seem to do that. Long live DC. The web has much worse because at least I did get my cards even so late. I hope he gets back and does better.

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winner
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Sep 16, 2008 1:27 am EDT

okay for all the people posting on this site looking for something solid to grab hold of: listen to me. I know that everything is going back and forth on here and everyone is calling everyone else a scammer and a liar. Lets be honest. I have had a long history with noveltyidforum.org, with digitalchaos, with lexie and all of the members at that board. Let me be the first to be honest with everyone that is reading: this forum is not a scam. plenty of people have recieved products from DC and from lexie (back when lexie used to be around) and there are hundreds of satisfied customers that could vouch for either of them. To say that they never delivered any products IS a lie. However, I did wait over 6 months to get my card from DC and would have been "scammed" if i had not been persistant. I also had problems ordering from lexie (who i am surprised to see made a post above here because everyone at NIDF thinks you are dead or something). Since before I can remember, NIDF was littered with posts from people complaining that DC had orders that he has not yet completed. The incomplete orders kept piling up and what happens is eventually people give up and come on here and tell everyone that they were scammed. They have perfect reason to do so because they did send money and did not get anything. But DC and NIDF are simply NOT running a scam organization. They are poorly running what used to be a high quality ID business and it has become extremely unreliable. The site has now been taken offline. for good? maybe. who knows. but the people who have not recieved their orders probably never will. I am happy to say that i did recieve an order, but I am not naiive enough to believe that there are not some people who sent money to the same people i did and never have or never will recieve a card.

anyone here who argues that they are scammers is simply wrong, and anyone here who argues that they always deliver is also wrong. Just because YOU got your card doesnt mean everyone else has, and just because you didnt get your card doesnt mean it is a total scam. anyone who would consider themselves educated on the whole NIDF, DC, Lexie fake id scene will not argue with me because that is the strait truth.

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Trollin
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Aug 28, 2008 7:27 pm EDT

All novelty ID sites are scams! I got hook ups in my country for all sorts of custom jobs :>Specially US, AU and Canadian stuff. Heh so it's cool people fool you around on the internet!

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Lexie
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Jul 21, 2008 7:03 pm EDT

excuse me but I beg to differ... This is Lexie, I'm long retired from this terrible messy game...

I was real...

Sexy Lexie

Peace

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Phoenix
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Jul 10, 2008 7:07 pm EDT

First i take issue with these self proclaimed best in the business. They are not. I AM. Everyone talks about cardersmarket. I stayed the hell away from there. And for good reason.

My roots go back to Shadowcrew, Counterfeitlibrary and counterfeitersguild. And in 11 years i have never ripped anyone. If i were legitimate and I had someone like this guy doing this i would just send him a free damn license to shut him up.

You know what i am going to give him a free License just to shut him up. Email me and i will give you one. All this talk of being ripped does not look good on us real vendors.

These guys haven't given him one because they can't
I am not trying to drum up business here the email addy is only to service this one person.
try and trick me by saying your him and i will know the difference.

I have read and looked at all these posts and you know something the original poster is absolutely right. this is none other than fakeidman from fakeid.org back in the day. Remeber me A-hole? Your old nemisis is back. me and gollumfun mubin and oneyewillie basically shut his ### down in the late 90's early 2K.

The ### then started doing mass mailings from our server serving up kiddie porn and got our site shut down for about a week and we only came back stronger until the secret service busted over 300 members of the board. Didn't get me however.

Anyway you are not going to get any fake id that will pass for a real thing anywhere on a web based shop. Any shop claiming to do so is a scam. they would be shut down so fast. believe me i have had over a dozen closed on me over the years.

Anybody believes that someone bought an ID from these guys got it and was happy then just somehow stumbled on this site to come to their defence?

If you believe any of that than you deserve to get beat.

Don't bother writing to me asking me to hook you up not going to happen. I have enough troubles staying underground without having to deal with a mess of people I KNOW NOTHING about trying to solicit me to work for them.

Just not happening.

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Jessica
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Apr 16, 2008 1:30 pm EDT

Hahahahaha! You are such a LOSER. Do you honestly know how idiotic you sound? You clearly have nothing else better to do except create drama for yourself.

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john
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Oct 15, 2007 4:41 pm EDT

Ok, I just want everyone to sit back and read this today.

I didnt even bother to read all of the junk on this website about oh they're lying and its a scam whatever. Im in high school, I went looking for fake ids about a year ago. It has taken me this long to get it.

Dc got my order on July 15th, and I got it today. I know half of you all think this is ###, its not. Im a junior in high school, if you want to get personal you can email me I will take a picture of them, it came with backup insurance cards. What do you have to loose? Just send me an email and I will try to convince you that Im telling the truth about the site. Most of you are just like me, just trying to find some place that will sell ids online, holding out hope. These guys that get on here trying to say its a scam are like FBI or just ### cause they cant shut down the site because its on offshore servers so the best they can do is just to try to convince people its a scam. Once again, you have nothing to loose just email me and I will personally tell you that even though it took three f*cking months I did get it in the mail. I am just like you, in high school or college, I swear to god. Peace.

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James
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Oct 15, 2007 3:55 pm EDT

Why are we supposed to believe a site that doesnt sell IDs is a scam, because you somehow purchased an ID from them?

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jordan
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Jul 04, 2007 9:40 pm EDT

I'm just gonna try and find an id at the college I'm starting this fall. Screw this online crap.

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jordan
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Jul 04, 2007 9:36 pm EDT

dam, i was scammed by this site a couple of weeks ago, i wish i would have found this site first. dam!

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im a cop also
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Jun 24, 2007 7:31 pm EDT

As of this time they have just 250 members and yet they have 2500 posts! that is 10 per person. doesn't add up. Also, 250 members means they have had 250 visitors, NOT members. they force you to become a member just to view the board. Most of these forced members, probably 90%, never bother to even post. So now you have maybe 50 people that have made 2500 posts! No board on the net is that frickin active with so few members. That would average 50 posts per person. I'd say that the small group of fake members the board owners created have made 90% of the posts. WHAT A SCAM!

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agreed
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Jun 23, 2007 4:07 pm EDT

I noticed that most of the so called "members" on noveltyidforum are just accounts that were made with zero posts (fake accounts made so the site looks more legit). I think noveltyidforum scammers are just making tons of fake accounts so it looks like they have tons and tons of members when they really don't. I looked right on the members list and saw that most "members" just created an account and never went back nor logged in again.

Looks like fake accounts being made to me. Noveltyidforum is a scam.

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im a cop also
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Jun 23, 2007 3:43 pm EDT

TYPICAL REPLIES BY SCAM ID SITE OWNERS.

1) claim that all the many people posting that they were scammed is really just one person.

2) claim that the FBI and cops are making all the posts

3) reply within minutes as thou you are some average joe who just surfed in and will defend the scams at noveltyidforum.org.

4) post as the admin saying all the bad posts about noveltyidforum,.org are being done by one person.

TIMELESS

PRICELESS

After all, its all they have. Its all they can do to try to deceive you again.

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berry
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Jun 23, 2007 3:39 pm EDT

Camo is nothing but a scam. I emailed him asking him some simple questions and he replied back to me telling me to go phuck myself. I am convinced that camo is a scam. Camo says cops make up the stories but where is the proof in that? There is no proof because the cop stories are all lies, camo is a scam.

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Admin
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Jun 23, 2007 2:39 am EDT

After further review I have discovered that the character known as "Neal" has been posting as 98% of those issuing complaints against NIDF. I have also traced the IPs being used back to an FBI building in the United States.

Consumers beware.

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NIDF
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Jun 22, 2007 11:07 pm EDT

Um, Camou is not a scammer. He will answer any questions in detail regarding ordering and he delivers quality product. You guys no nothing about the fake Id maker. IT is SOOO hard to find a legit seller. Why? Because even when a legit person, like Camou, emerges, anti-fake id people will try to slander him. This complaint board is such ###. And the un--bias people who are beginning to doubt Camou will end up not getting a fake because there a ###. I thought the human race was suppose to be getting smarter, but we got more and more people becoming viruses, aka Neal.

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Neal
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Jun 22, 2007 3:41 pm EDT

"Selfsexexposer" AKA Camouflage (DigitalChaos) the scammer loves to lie.

I have never pretended anything.

The only name I have ever used is Neal, which is my real name by the way.

How many identity's did you steal and then sell on CARDERSMARKET this week camouflage?
I'm sure we would all like to know.

All Camouflage can do is post the word cop over and over under different names. If you look on this site it's the same person that keeps saying cop yet they post under different fake names.

Camouflage AKA DigitalChaos is a scam. He is a member of cardersmarket where he sells peoples identity's and also sells stolen credit card numbers hence the websites name "carders" (stolen credit cards) "market" (black market store).

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Neal
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Jun 22, 2007 7:54 am EDT

"Whocares" = "laughoutloud" & "amazed". You will now see why "whocares" is a liar.

#1 I have never called anyone a liar like you say, I have never called anyone a liar that doubted me or laughed at me (it's the same scammers posting over and over anyway). How come you refused to provide any evidence for your false claims?

#2 "whocares" accuses innocent people of being scammers all the time, anybody in there right mind would say how could I be a scammer if I don't sell anything.

"whocares" is one of "laughoutloud" & "amazed" and all of the other fake usernames that he tells his lies with.

"Whocares" = "laughoutloud" & "amazed"!

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WhoCares
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Jun 22, 2007 12:46 am EDT

Scam-exposer = NEAL!

Scam-exposer said:

""Why do you lie and call me a scammer? Your such a liar. I don't even sell anything so it is impossible for me to be a scammer.""

#1 NEAL calls everyone who doubts him a liar for no valid reason. If someone laughs at him he calls them a liar. If someone says he said something that doesnt make sense he calls them a liar. If you do not agree with NEAL he calls you a liar GUARANTEED.

#2 NEAL says over and over that he can not be a scammer because he does not sell anything. It is one of his favorite lines and he has said it at least 50 times in his bashing of noveltyidforum.org.

Scam-exposer is one of NEALs fake usernames that he tells his lies with.

Scam-exposer = NEAL

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scam-exposer
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Jun 21, 2007 10:20 am EDT

Actually laughoutloud there is a bunch of people saying they got scammed and 1 person saying it doesn't add up. Unlike you laughoutloud I would never leave my sister hanging out to dry.

I have every right not to tell you what my username is. Isn't it a strange coincidence that the same person posting under different names keeps hassling me for my username? I know you want to try and hack my I.P. Address.

My sister lives with her boyfriend and said I could use her mailbox whenever I wanted. I did get scammed by camo last month. I did make a account on that board.

Why do you lie and call me a scammer? Your such a liar. I don't even sell anything so it is impossible for me to be a scammer.

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LaughOutLoud
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Jun 20, 2007 8:51 pm EDT

This is funny as hell. You have one person saying they were scammed under different names and a bunch of people saying it doesn't add up. So the one person changes names and says all the people who know better are really just one person defending the scam. Scam-exposer says I gave them my pic but my sisters address so its ok for me to put her out there but not my user name because then they might know my IP. Thats so funny. Who cares about my sister, I will just hang her out to dry as long as no one can get my IP. It is a numb skull excuse for not saying what the user name was. Who would do that to a family member? No one would. Its a lie. Scam-exposer didn't get scammed. He wasn't even a member of that board and he is trying to get away from the fact. He is unquestionably the one doing the scamming.

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devon
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Jun 20, 2007 4:36 pm EDT

Camouflage scammed me back when he was running the fakeidman.org scam website. He's nothing but a chump scammer. I still remember camouflage and his previous scam site even to this day still. I can't believe this scammer is still running this same scam. I hate him, he never sent me anything.

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Lostboy
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Jun 20, 2007 3:54 am EDT

Starting to think that everything I read against NIDF and Camo here is hater bacon. My bud said he was going to take the chance and order there weeks ago and I warned him about all these posts. I told him it was possibly a scam but he is NIDF and did it anyway and now he is laughing at me and saying he has proof now. If he is telling the truth and I know he is because he wouldn't lie to me on it then it is true that the complaint is fake and the supporters are cops. My last visit here. To creepy for me.

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scam-exposer
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Jun 19, 2007 11:33 am EDT

Actually I was scammed by camou last month. I did give him my board name when I ordered. I did email camou and didn't get any response. I did post that I got scammed on the board but my post was deleted. Don't lie to me and say posts aren't deleted when they really are.

I am not going to tell you my board name because I don't want my IP address publicly posted or hacked into. I didn't use a proxy on the board so my real IP address is exposed.

How come you keep pressuring me to give you my board name? You must really want to try to hack my IP address or something. I posted on the board that I was scammed and my post was deleted, I posted on the board first then after that was deleted I posted here to warn people about the scam.

I have seen others post that they got scammed to but the posts have a way of getting deleted very quickly. I am not playing victim but I am rather a victim of fraud and a scam. I wanted an id and decided to try camou but I was scammed. I didn't trust that site from the beginning but decided to try it and got scammed.

Camou is a scam and I know that from first hand experience.

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crystal
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Jun 18, 2007 9:15 am EDT

I sent my money to Lexie to and I never got anything. She is just a scam like all the other scam sites. Don't order from spidentity either, I ordered from them before and got scammed to.

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scam-exposer
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Jun 17, 2007 3:15 pm EDT

You are such a scam wolfcreeper, this complaint is true because I was scammed by camou last month. He never sent me an id and i am still waiting. Camou is a scam and from the looks of it robinlexie is a scam also.

Take your scam somewhere else.

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WolfCreeper
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Jun 16, 2007 3:09 pm EDT

This complaint is totally fake. It was posted by someone who does not want people to get IDs online. Cops I think. The reason I know this is because I bought from Lexie when she was Robin and I have bought from Camou twice. Robins Delaware had the word "DRIVER'S" instead of "DRIVER" and Camous NY is a little bit to thin. But they both are professionals and they both deliver the products they advertise. If you say otherwise you are a liar to me. I know what I have bought and got from them.

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phil
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Jun 12, 2007 8:11 pm EDT

Digital Chaos (camo) scammed me also, that grease ball should have sent me my fake id over a month ago but I still don't have my id that I paid for. I thought it was probably a scam and over a month later STILL A SCAM!

I think all sites are scams, if you think about it they make a lot more money just scamming and not sending any ids to people, why waste time and effort making ids when it is easier to just scam people.

I HATE SCAMMERS!

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embear
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Jun 12, 2007 6:15 pm EDT

This is so ignorant.

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Bradley
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Jun 10, 2007 8:34 am EDT

I was scammed by Robin/Lexie also, I sent her $175 cash to the address she gave me and I have still yet to receive anything. She is just another scammer like all the rest. What a waste of my paycheck!

I'm so sick of scammers!

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robbin_robin is goin down
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Jun 09, 2007 7:40 pm EDT

Be on the watch for the fakeidman.com and fakeidman.net scams to be up and running any time now. The sites are back up, but they have yet to place a review board on them. You can be certain that every site they rate highly will be owned by them. I'll keep an eye on the sites.

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James
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Jun 08, 2007 5:32 pm EDT

I got taken by a large scale scam operation,I was scammed out of $400 by a girl who goes by the nickname of Lexie, I found out her real name is Robin Johnson though. I sent her my picture and signature to her email and sent her a blank money order to

Lexie & Sallys sea shells
P.O. Box 261
Oak Lawn, illinois 60454

I waited patiently for a response from her and she told me that it must have got lost in the mail, I couldn't get my money back because she told me to send a blank money order (she wrote in somebody elses name in the from area so I guess legally the money order wasn't from me.)

So then Robin tells me she is only accepting cash now and to send her another $200 cash to her house at

Robin Johnson
8828 S. Kolin
Hometown, illinois 60456
[protected]

She told me my second payment got magically lost in the mail also, she lied, I told her I wanted my money back because I know she stole it but she told me 'too bad' and stopped responding to my emails. I was mad she scammed me so after some browsing I found out that she works at the funk groove bar in chicago illinois and that she is going to columbia college in chicago for fashion design. I also found out that she turned 21 years old on 4-11-07, she has a boyfriend named Bill, I also found her public pictures you can see what she looks like below and many more pictures on this link.

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I see that she is also making up a story about me trying to blackmail her for a statement about her id scam, She made that story up so she can try to trick people and make people think she's legit to everyone when she is actually a scam. I sent her an email (not from the email she made up) and I just pleaded her for a refund but she stopped answering my emails. She made up that fake story of me trying to blackmail her through email. Robin johnson scammed me and I just want my money back. Robin if you read this please return my emails.

Another person that helped Robin Johnson scam me was Daniel Feeser A.K.A. S2S A.K.A. Somthing2say, He sweet talked me into trusting Robin and convinced me to send my money to her. Daniel Feeser said that he gets a small payout for all of the customers he refers to Robin, now I see what he meant, Robin pays him some of the money for each person she scams for the referrals. Through some browsing I found Daniel Feeser's public pics also, You can see what he looks like below at this link

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Please return my emails robin, all I want is my money back, Can you please just refund my money. I can't get a hold of you by email so I hope I can reach you on here.

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Chris
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Jun 08, 2007 11:46 am EDT

I am the chris that wrote this review and got scammed $160. The other chris is simply another chris. Ever think that people might have the same name? There must only be 50 million chris's on earth.

Wow, I haven't been back to this post since I wrote it and I can see that it has been taken over by a flock of scammers trying to still take peoples money.

By the way I still haven't gotten back my $160 yet! Camouflage still hasn't refunded me since he scammed me.

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Markc
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Jun 08, 2007 12:43 am EDT

I don't need to answer your questions in defense of noveltyidforum.org. They are legit and you just need to take my word on that. Would I lie? If their vendors don't want to mail you samples, then big deal. Does that mean they are a scam? If they wont allow any negative posts on noveltyidforum.org about their vendors, does this mean they are a scam? If they refuse to place any in-depth posts about the phonyid.com and fakeidman.net scam, does this mean they are a scam?

Just believe me and what I am telling you. Forget about wanting answers. Just order from them and shut up, OK? Just mail in your money to us and forget answers and samples, OK?

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chris
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Jun 08, 2007 12:29 am EDT

Hey... try answering the guys questions for a change, dude? I believe chris noveltyidforum.org is a scam.

You people that say otherwise just don't answer any questions brought forth. All u do is make BS.

Answer the damn question!

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MarkC
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Jun 07, 2007 2:12 pm EDT

I am not from that forum at all and noticed that you got confused with your story, Chris. Does that make me a scammer because I see where you lied about being scammed? First you said you were scammed by one vendor for $160.00, then you forgot your original story and said it was $200.00 from another vendor. What is up with that?

Talk about trying to spin your way out of something! You responded to being caught as if everyone who can read is the people you are complaining about. I picture you as a orangutan going crazy and flaying your hands in the air grunting scam scammer scam scammer because YOU got caught in a lie.

In the future, when you are going to make up stories and dedicate your time and effort to sticking to them you should at least try to remember what they are. You are free to believe that changing the amount you were supposedly scammed out of and the vendor who supposedly scammed you in the middle of your argument is insignificant as long as you are still slandering the same forum, but I am also free to believe that doing so makes it painfully clear that you made the whole thing up for some unknown reason.

That is what I see and that is what I think. I think that you made it up and got it confused with your other stories and it back fired. That does not make me a scammer. It makes the person who tried to get me to believe a story that they could not keep straight a scammer.

That would be you.

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chris
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Jun 06, 2007 11:53 pm EDT

Lol... imagine that? The scammers here want us to provide evidence and emails to prove we were taken by the trusted vendors at noveltyidforum.org! lol

And these demands come from the same people at noveltyidforum.org that refuse to mail you a sample to prove to the you that they are legit id makers.

LAUGHABLE!

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chris
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Jun 06, 2007 11:42 pm EDT

Notice how the scammer didn't even bother tyo address not one of the facts set forth in my post? Not one! They never bother to mention why they refuse to send people a sample? They never do because they can not come up with a legit answer. They do come up with lame answers thou.

If you are afraid to mail customers a sample you are a scam.

Try to spin that one, scammer?

Try to spin why you get changing your site address, etc, etc, etc?

Your answers should be nauseating.

You scammed me and now i will get my revenge.

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OhMyGodStopIt
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Jun 06, 2007 10:13 pm EDT

That is pretty NOT funny, Chris.

Originally you were scammed out of 160.00 by Camou, and now suddenly the story has changed to 200.00 by dfund. (A DIFFERENT noveltyidforum.org seller who has recently went MIA.)

That you are changing the story with the tide is so obvious it would be funny even more if you were not hurting every one in the process of your lies and stories.

I am becoming very convinced, Neal, that you are a police officer here to simply cause confusion.

Your stories have ran out of room, and yet they keep coming.

The real question is no longer are you a scam. The question now is will Complaintsboard.com, "MADE BY THE PEOPLE FOR THE PEOPLE" have given in to your pressure and become Punked, or will they listen to the people and hunt you off of this site.

You are becoming nauseating.

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