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Windy City Motorsports Misrepresentation

I was looking for a Porsche RS America and going through a friend who is a car dealer and broker to purchase one. We found a 93 RS America being offered for at a major auction in Los Angeles. It was being sold by a bank, as a repossessed vehicle. I was quite interested in the vehicle as these are very rare cars, but the price was a bit too steep for my tastes as bidding increased given the condition and announcements of the car. Windy City Motorsports purchased the car via the internet, outbidding all of the buyers who actually attended the auction and inspect the cars prior to bidding. Windy City seemed to choose the route of bidding sight unseen on a AS-IS Porsche. While this alone comes off as a very reckless practice as car dealer that artificially inflates prices well above what they should sell, this isn't even my biggest problem with this business. They actually had to push the car through the auction block cause they said it smoked too heavily to start up. Nothing out of the ordinary if a dealer buys a vehicle with major issues to tend to, just as long as the issues was repaired or disclosed to any retail buyers. The big issue I have with this business is the blatant misrepresentation of the cars history. The biggest of which is the mileage. This vehicle was announced at auction as having an inoperable odometer and speedometer. I did a Carfax on this car and the recorded mileage over a 3 year period was stuck at 83, 330. This is a big deal as the car must be disclosed the seller as a "True Mileage Unknown" vehicle which seriously affects the its value. Windy City made no mention of this disclosure in its advertisement of this vehicle and I doubt also to the retail purchaser of this Porsche. This is not only a very unethical practice for a used car dealer but also cut and dry illegal. It shocks me that a used car dealer of this size and presence would hide such major value affecting conditions of a car they are selling. Beyond this, in their advertisement of the 1993 Porsche RS America, they claim "100% Stock & Never Raced Or Modified", when they have absolutely no idea of the car's history cause they purchased it at a car auction, and more than that it has visible modifications such as aftermarket wheels and lowered suspension. I understand car dealers maybe trying to get a buy to overlook minor issues and imperfections in selling used cars but this blatant misrepresentation of such a vehicle by this dealer is just too much to be ok with

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Windy City Motorsports Bad service

Do not Buy Cars From Windy City Motorsports in Schaumburg, Illinois . I recently Purchased a 2001 Porsche 911 996 Carrera From them Online and what I received was a piece of junk that it wasnt worth nothing, BEWARE Of Gary, The guy seems to be a really nice guy on the Phone and will tell you plenty of lies about the conditions of the cars they will try to sell you, Not even half of the Information he described was accurate or True and once you receive the car, their phones go dead, No answer and no replys, Im located in Miami, After they told me that the car was like brand new and in Mint excellent condition when I received the Car the first thing I noticed was the Cheap Overspray paint over the Front Bumper and Hood, The Battery was dead on the car, Wouldnt even start, The Tires where super low on pressure and when I finally was able to start the car I heard a loud ticking Noise on the engine, after further inspection I had a Certified Porsche Tech look at the car and confirmed my worst fear, A BLOWN ENGINE, He told me that he was sure they knew the car had a blown engine as the noise in the engine was really loud and that they probably put a dead battery on the car on Purpose so I couldnt hear the engine before the Car delivery carrier was gone . After Numerous calls and attemp to resolve the problem, Gary was nowhere to be found and again phones went dead . BEWARE Of this SCAM ARTISTS, The sell Expensive Cars that are not in the Condition as advertised, Im now stuck with a 2001 Porsche that will cost me more than $4, 000.00 in repairs. BEWARE OF WINDY CITY MOTORSPORTS IN SCHAUMBURG IL, DO NOT BUY CARS FROM THEM ONLINE, GO AND CHECK THE CAR IN PERSON, YOU WILL BE SURPRISED TO FIND OUT THAT THE "CARS" THEY SELL ARE NOT CLOSE TO THE CONDITION THAT THEY ADVERTISE TO BE, ALSO CHECK CARFAX ON YOUR OWN AND NOT FROM WHAT THEY SAY . I HOPE THIS COMPLAINT HELP ANYONE THAT WANTS TO DEAL WITH THIS SCAMMERS !

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, US
Nov 05, 2016 1:56 pm EDT
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This is more of a review of my horrible experience that I'm still fixing!
I waited over 3 months to write this review. Hoping they were a better dealership and straighten out their titles faster! I was without a legal set of wheels for a over 45days because it took 2 and a half Months to get the title.
Let me start by saying i had to drive over 400mi and needed a car asap as my other car blew up and i was using a rent a car. These peaple said this was a great shape car and only 81, 000mi on it.They priced it at $13, 999
They said the car I wanted was in great shape, never wrecked, with a clean and ready title. He even said he looked the car over and nothing stuck out as scratched or any sort of that nature for I had to drive almost 500mi to go get the car
Upon arrival the sun had already gone down but I could still see the flaws in the dark, it had obviously been wreaked on the front and the put screws though the bumper for the plastic air guide for the radiator and a little rear end damage to the bumper and I also noticed a spot were some1 tried to pop the hood open with a screw driver and broke part of the fiberglass fender and bent the hood, to the point you have to hit the hood and then try opening it because its in a bind. And rust underneath the paint in a few spots along with a loose head light and broken bumper brackets so its just the main bolts holding my front bumper on. I didn't even notice they had taken the rocker panels and electric running boards off until after I had already gone. They advertised it with them on the add.
When he first started up the car, it seem to have a slow start, oh well I said as soon as I got in the cheak park asst light whent off, I shrugged that off to along with it pulling hard to the left. I ended up buying the car anyway because it was soppost to have a clean clear ready to go title and I NEEDED a car and preferred the Lincoln navigator.
It was a BAD decision.As I was signing the papers for the title you could hear them move their cars and lets just say they probably Redline them every time they start them they don't even have to be moving them. They treat them like their race cars they do not have any respect for their cars and probably have been the cause to quite a few of the scuffs on the corners of their cars in there lot.
As I was sighing papers all I could here was screaming engines and tires.
On my long drive home the cheak tire pressure came on. The next day while driving to my doctor's appointment and back the check suspension light came on and the check engine light came on
So I took it in and the Cadillac converters are plugged, three suspension arms were broke and needed replaced then and there for $200, a Knock sensor is out, and electric armature is out on the starter. So they guesstimated about $2, 500 to get it running right and everything and I had just spent $13, 500 for it!
A month later they had not got me the title I called them and then a week later they sent me a repossession title still in someone else's name I took it to my courthouse witch is were they should've sent it to. They sent it back and told them to put it into their name and then send it back and it took them over a month to do that, so I was without a car that I could legally drive for a month and a half because of their title situation.

All in all the worst car experience in my life.
The lack of truth and professionalism is ridiculous. Save yourself the headache and go somewhere else, I sure wish I did!

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Mark Kring
, US
Jul 24, 2016 6:52 pm EDT
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I recently purchased a 1986 Mustang GT from Windy City, dealt with a Mando. The pictures from their website showed a close to showroom car. Mando never mentioned any issues with the car and that it was serviced. The car took20 days to get here and was nothing like the pictures showed. The convertible top was ripped and hidden carefully with black tape. One of the fog lights was mashed out and Windy City made it a good point to avoid this light I all of their pictures. The paint job was redone and very poorly done, the headlights have a black surrounding that's all chipped up and in their pictures they look glossy black. All of the weatherstripping around the Windows is cracked and falling apart. The visor was missing all together. Various screws missing throughout the molding on the inside. Next the shop, mechanic found rotted out mufflers expelling fumes into the cabin, dirty oil, a leaking front strut, the heater core was bi passed so it has no heat or defrosters. The A/Cdoesnt work at all (R12). The thing drives rough, shifts rough and needs all new shocks and struts. Total paid was 7500 + 700 shipping and it's worth at the best [protected]. I've tried calling and leaving messages and no one will return my calls. I've left e-mail sand even sent pictures of everything I could showing all of their hidings. This is by far the worst car dealer experience I've ever had and buy a lot of vehicles. They need to lose their license to sell. If they were closer I would bring my veterans and teach them a valuable lesson.

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bakerp44
, US
Apr 06, 2016 6:13 pm EDT

I would like to thankyou all i was going to pay the price asking on the challenger srt8 but after seeing this i will go erlsewhere again thank you all . Pat baker

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belfastbill
, US
Oct 30, 2015 6:33 pm EDT
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there is a lot of made up stories here folks! it's like reading penthouse forum back in the day! if you read them carefully some of these i would say are nothing more than made up stories . Please please folks keep in mind if u are buying a used car from anyone sight unseen use your COMMON SENSE! order a private inspection from a third party company (ASE certified) preferably like LEMON SQUAD. for about $150 bucks they will go over the vehicle bumper to bumper and give you a honest assessment of what the car is lacking or needs repairs. from there you can take take that to the salesman and see what he/she is willing to do. but don't bash anyone who dosen't deserve to be bashed!

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Danny Mcclenon
, US
Jul 27, 2017 12:07 am EDT

You have no idea wtf urf talking about. You must either work for; or know someone there

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GaryGrossman moved from Schaumberg
milwaukee, US
Apr 19, 2014 3:23 pm EDT

• Approved Plan Commission recommendation to allow for a motor vehicle repair, service and sales for the property located at the north east corner of North Ave. and Grace St. Gary Grossman, President of Windy City Motorsports of Long Grove, said he plans to repair the current building and repave the parking lot as he expands his business to this location.

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Danny Mcclenon
, US
Jul 27, 2017 12:12 am EDT

Great i hope u/he has deeeeep pockets...  I am filing a criminal fraud suit against windy city. Would you be willing to give a statement or testify in court? We have the financial means to bring this place some accountability. Call me [protected]. The details of my experience are on yelp under my name "Danny" we have 5 ppl on board already but numbers speak loudly

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StayAwayFromWindyCity
, US
May 16, 2013 11:48 am EDT
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Gary . . . I mean "Angie", thou protest too much! You have ONLY one post which goes into great detail to support Windy City Motorsports. How does a buyer from Oklahoma who has purportedly only made a single purchase from Windy City know so much about their business practices. I purchased a vehicle from Windy City and would not refer my worst enemy or my ex to this scam operation. Many hidden defects, Gary was not honest, and there was absolutely NO service after the sale. STAY AWAY AND GO TO A REPUTABLE DEALER! BTW regarding "Beware of Them's" post, you accuse him of slander. Slander is an UNTRUE statement. I see no slander in his post.

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StayAwayFromWindyCity
, US
Apr 28, 2013 10:58 am EDT
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STAY AWAY! Lies and do not provide ANY service after the sale. Do not return phone calls, do not make good on promises, make half-assed repairs to hide vehicle's "issues" and do not disclose defects they were clearly aware of. Considering flying to Chicago to file a lawsuit . . . "as is" does not apply when there one is intentionally deceptive Gary . . .

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marc michelena
Charlotte, US
Mar 28, 2013 9:26 am EDT

Just to make it short I agree with all of you! They are a scam artist and the new member is Maria Aguinaga. I am very happy I didnt loose anythingh with them b/c i felt strange from the very begining and when they didnt want me to close the deal through ebay I was completly unsure of doing anything with them until I found out this forum. thank you guys for helping me making a good decision.

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Angie Rae
Tulsa, US
Feb 28, 2013 9:52 pm EST

First of all, Gary is not a scammer! I just bought a 2004 Ford Mustang GT from him and he was completely honest with me. Your porche was used and had been sitting on the showroom floor or out in the lot for awhile, so the battery more than likely needed charged and the tires probably would need some air. You have to think of where they are located. You just can't go out and drive a sports car with rear wheel drive near Chicago, Illinois, especially during the winter months. As far as the car I bought from him, he pointed out every single thing that was wrong with it. I bought my car from him off of Ebay Motors, so was also a far distance away from Lombard, Illinois. I am sure if you knew more about cars and asked him about the important parts, like the engine performance and the condition of the transmission, he would've been totally honest with you. These guys don't go out and drive these cars every day, so they are not going to know every single thing wrong with the cars they are selling. Mechanics will rip you off, so why are you slandering Gary? You should have hired a mechanic to go out and take a look at the car before you bought it. You should take the blame yourself. Windy City Motors does give you the carfax, for free, on any car they sell. You cannot "make up" a carfax. There is no used car that is in perfect condition. You did not ask Gary to check on the engine or the transmission before buying the porche, so stop placing the blame on him and take some responsibility for being totally irresponsible. Gary was great and I will be referring him to my friends.

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Danny Mcclenon
, US
Jul 27, 2017 12:37 am EDT
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You either work for them, or know gary or higher employee. OR youh have NO clue what your talking about

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DonG in Chicago
, US
Jul 17, 2012 3:22 pm EDT

I had a very good experience there. Bought a 2000 Porsche Boxter. Car looked in person exactly like their web photos. Did a test drive, thought the front end felt loose. They put the car on the rack and checked it. They said the tires were cupped and that was what I felt. I bought he car and took it a local mechanic to have it serviced. He confirmed the suspension was fine and all the steering gear was good. Also said the tires were the problem. I replaced the tires and it drives like new. They were good to deal with and honest with me at all times. I would buy there again. Any time you look for a bargain, you take a chance.

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