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website business Company Closed the doors

I started with Website Business in September 2010 - and lost 19, 000 + because he just closed the doors. The company owner was Kyle Wynn, from what I have reading on Facebook he has used our money to opened 3 other internet companies. The website names are http://bloggersmakingmoney.com/ ; http://choiceonesolutions.com/ ; http://www.businessreferralsolution.com/index.html. Kyle Wynn is a crook of all crooks and should go to jail for what he has done to all of us.

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website business it's a scam

RUN! RUN FAST! Do not start with this company. I have been victimized. After three Statement of Work Contracts with them and their continued promises and reasons for how your exposure and ability to make an income will improve, I have nothing. When they sense you will not render more money they will just disappear. They are supportive at first (they are good at doing this) and get you to do blogging and writing articles for $5 when accepted and you can only do 2 within a week. They are so deceitful and I am so stupid for falling for their "line". Read about the company as much as you can because there are enough complaints out there. I am so disappointed in myself for falling for any of it.
Don't go near them!

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website business Internet Website Scam

I bought a blog site from website business on June 2, 2011 and was told I would earn $400-$500 a week if I submitted blogs frequently. I paid $199 for the site to be set up and customized. I also was charged a monthly fee of $9.95. I never received a payment from website business like promised. I also did Postzilla which was suppose to pay $5 for every post and they owed me $20, which I never received as well.

My site was suppose to be customized with a custom header which it does not have either. I am currently trying to get my domain back so I can keep my site going. Knowing that I will have to restructure the entire system to make my site work again. That is if I can get the domain. If not I am going to have to start all over again.

My name is Lori Cathey and my phone number is [protected]. My email address is [protected]@yahoo.com.

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Slingerlands, US
Sep 15, 2011 7:46 pm EDT

Lori, Go to Whois.com and type in your domain name to see if it's registered uner your name. My domain was registered under my name with GoDaddy. Since we don't have access to our WebsiteBusiness.com account to make changes to our sites, what do you plan to do? I have another site I built using WordPress and I may build another WordPress site. Setting up the web pages won't be bad and I already have HostGator as my web hosting company. The part I detest is the site map. I can probably figure it out by looking at what was done for my other site. I never really knew if WebsiteBusiness.com did any SEO. I will never do business with another website design company again in the event they go out of business and leave me stranded on the Internet. I went with WebsiteBusiness.com to save me time. What an irony!

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website business UNPAID EMPLOYEES

Website Business finally cleared out and closed house (ran and hid like cowards) on 8/29/2011. However most smart employees left the week of 8/15 when they found their payroll checks were bouncing/or not cashing at all. However, some optimistic employees stayed, thinking things would turn around, only to find the doors locked on them, and the entire building cleaned out on 8/29/2011. Kyle Winn, the owner has showed no remorse or sympathy to those loyal employees who stuck it out, nor has shown any care for their free time they worked. Not to mention, completely disregarding the clients who cannot reach the company because they no longer reside at their former place of business. The biggest victims in this sad story are the clients who are left without any fulfillment for the services they have paid for.

This downward spiral was started months and months ago, when employees were granted a glimpse in to the dooming of the company, when they witnessed the company's newly appointed CEO walk out right before the employees found out they were not getting paid that week. They were then told they would now be getting paid on Tuesday's rather than Fridays. Things were kept afloat for a few weeks however, as the company was forced to give refunds to any and all clients that requested (at the fear of receiving so many charge-backs that the company would lose their merchant account). Another key point in the company's downfall can be seen here: http://www.azfamily.com/news/consumer/Valley-senior-settles-complaint-against-Website-Business-125183649.html
In a AZ3TV news report showcasing one of the company's VIP clients and how she was taken for a unbelievable rip off ride. This actually cost the company hundreds of thousands of dollars, it didn't even have. This was another turning point in the company's fate.

Employees began to feel they were culprits for even working there themselves, so some left then. Most others departed when they realized their accounts had been charged NSF fee's for their payroll checks bouncing. Who is planning on paying those fees? SO what are these employees to do? Most of them with families and lives of their own? One employee tried explaining to Kyle Winn (The coveted owner) directly that his paycheck had bounced and he would soon be evicted from his home, only to get an astounding response stating, "The longer I talk to you about it, the longer it's going to take me to find a solution". You get that solution yet Kyle?

The only person to be held accountable and responsible (Which is a word that cannot even be used in the same sentence as the name Kyle Winn), is indeed Kyle Winn. This sly, lying, sneeky, deceitful, strip club-goer should probably legally change his name this time, not just the company (ie. iGoMogul, Website Business, and whatever other names are to come for the future). This time it's gone too far, allowing tens of thousands clients to be without guidance and not having any consequences for his actions. However, almost all former employees are either taking legal actions for thier weeks of unpaid wages, contacting the labor board, or the police directly.

This F rated BBB company should run and hide, they are going to need all the cowardly, sly minutes they can until Kyle Winn is fatefully and undeniably going to jail for FRAUD. Knowingly writing bad checks to his employees as well as his clients.

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Oct 19, 2011 8:32 am EDT

Sure can... Green eyes average height...sandy brown hair usually covered up by a straight bill ball cap. Wanna be gangstar... Drives a cadillac escalade pearl white... Coke head...Dines at places like Capital Grill...hear he used to travel out with two black bodyguards...Which im sure hes upped his security measures by now. If you know his whereabouts please contact me... On here I dont want to leave my personal email for now but I would love to hear he has been found by someone not close yet to him but he is an idiot who prob thinks anyone wouldnt know what hes put people through when he acts like such a baller...

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Sep 02, 2011 8:42 pm EDT

I am overwhelmingly happy to see that this complaints board is heating up google searches for Kyle Winn as well as Website Business. Please all clients and ex-employees post this on your Facebook pages as well as your blogs (those of you who can still access). There are still hundreds, even thousands of clients out there who are oblivious to this situation. They completely have no idea what is going on, and will not until their website's inevitably get taken down due to non-payment (On WSB's part). These clients need to know what is going on so they can plan ahead.

I assure you that Client Support was being lied to as well. We were aware the company was having some financial issues but only told clients what we were told to be believed as the truth. our main and only concern was and still is the sadness we feel for all of you who invested your money and will receive nothing in return. On behalf of all employees we apologize, there are no words to describe our anguish and pain we feel for you as well as ourselves. Again we have taken our legal actions and encourage any and all clients of WSB to do the same. Its illegal to take your money with a signed contract for what you are paying for and never deliver. That is the point of a contract. WSB is contractually obligated. Contact the AZ Districts attorney here: [protected].

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EStone33
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Jan 29, 2016 6:21 pm EST

Kyle Winn is back at it again... This time selling Gold and Silver. The place is called Gold Gate Capital near L.A.

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dudewereu@
phoenix, US
Oct 30, 2011 3:23 am EDT

Does n e 1 know how to get ahlod of Maurice?

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miscelleousworld
Cumberland, US
Oct 20, 2011 12:53 am EDT
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I had two sites cookiecooksite and miscellaneousworld I would love to be able to get my sites back and be able to have the content that was posted. I broke my shoulder on August 30th and didn't know anything about this for almost a month because I could type therefore I didn't visited my sites or atomword. I tried to get in touch with wsb on the phone but now I know why they didn't answer. I am so sorry for all of the employees. I got to know quite a few of you and really appreciated all the help you provided. I lost money on miscellaneousworld. I guess I'm in the minority when it comes to making money this I did for my cookiecooksite I made over a $1, 000.00 then invested over 5, 000 in miscellaeousworld. I put in a lot of hours to make my site pay and would like to have them back how can I get the numbers I need to have the sites put in my name. Please, if anyone knows let me know.

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ZeroJustice
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Oct 17, 2011 6:36 am EDT

Can any one of you give me a physical description of this Kyle Winn? I'm trying to find out information about a Kyle Winn; but I don't know if this is the same Kyle Winn. Thank you in advance if you can help me with this.

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Slingerlands, US
Sep 15, 2011 8:24 pm EDT

I checked Whois.com and my domain is registered under my name with GoDaddy. I cannot login to my account or AtomWord.com. Should all of us who want to continue our websites online get a hosting company? Am I correct in saying since we cannot access our admins on WebsiteBusiness.com or AtomWord.com, we would have to rebuild our websites. I have another website created on WordPress, and that's what I'll probably do unless there's an easier way.

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Slingerlands, US
Sep 14, 2011 3:29 am EDT

WebsiteBusiness.com charged me a total of $3, 508.00 in July 2010 to design my business blog. In talking to other customers now that the business is gone, I found out that most of them didn't pay anywhere near what I paid for the site set up, fancy template and bloggers to promote the site. I was a newbie at the time and I didn't question the price that was quoted. Imagine believing I could make money from an Amazon store and some Google ads. Did anybody at Amazon.com ever discuss making a list and attracting traffic? I spoke to a customer who earned $4, 000.00 from Postzilla and Writezilla, and now realize I should have complained to my account manager when I was told there were no Postzilla or Writezilla jobs available. I'm currently looking into setting up the site on WordPress myself and am wondering if there's an easier way to do it. The reason I was willing to pay WebsiteBusiness.com so much money was that it would save me a lot of time in setting up the site myself and I liked AtomWord before its unfortunate revamping which must have contributed to the company's downfall.

This is my second bad experience with a website company. My first one was last Christmas with Genesis Consulting and my gardening site. I was positive that they were tampering with the ID numbers in the HTML codes of my affiliate banners and changing them to their own ID numbers in order to have sales commissions credited to their Commission Junction, LinkShare and Share ASale accounts. How did I know they were defrauding me? On a few Sundays my site was down for hours, probably while their programming genius was fooling around with the HTML codes in my admin. I will never have anything to do with these website building companies again. You absolutely cannot trust them.

How could you people work for such con artists? Can any of you advise what's the best way to move our sites to another we host. Should I build a WordPress site and reload all my blog posts and do new web pages. Or is there any easier way to do it. I don't want to pay a company to set up the WordPress site for me, as I have another WordPress site I created.

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dogzday
Hayward, US
Sep 13, 2011 1:59 am EDT

hello there ...website business took $3250.00 rom me and promissed to set up a webite for me where i will be making some money...now I cannot reach them by phone. Can any body help...any suggestions

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TheWordsmith
, US
Sep 11, 2011 3:19 am EDT

I worked at WSB in the editing department, and I am sorry to say that it looks like the company's clients have no one to contact for assistance. The building has been cleared out. There's no one around to answer any of the phones. There were account managers, but there won't be any left now. The only person who is around to answer for WSB is Kyle Winn, who lied to all of us and probably to himself too.

Best of luck, todayscarbonfootprints. I worked briefly on your site and can say that you had a great start going.

Like all of the other employees, the company owes me money (that of course I need since I was drastically underpaid), but I am counting it as a loss. The stress of working for WSB has slowly been dissipating from my life, and it seems to me that all of the employees are going to be better off without that place.

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todayscarbonfootprints
Nashua, US
Sep 03, 2011 1:36 am EDT

Forgive the weird text in my posts. I don't know why I my quotations and parenthesis are turning into coded text.

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todayscarbonfootprints
Nashua, US
Sep 03, 2011 1:34 am EDT

The tough part is... all the phone numbers that I was given are coming up with busy signals and I have not received one reply to my emails and customer support for the last two weeks. More so in the last 4 days. I can't even log into my WSB account to open a support ticket or even access my production notes. The other bad side to this (beyond the employees not getting paid) is I paid for all the development of my 'community' site. I was also told that I would be earning about $3000 to $7000 per month once the community site was up and running from the advertising and memberships. What A fool I am. Good thing I have all my contracts. So far the only contract that has been delivered was the first version of the site that cost the initial $500. I have been publishing material to it for the last three months. Even got my first mock-up of my community site just prior to August and I have been waiting for the final site to go live. I guess it will not be. Even the other two companies that KYLE WINN owned have both come up with busy signal. One of them was canceled: ironically it was called 'Cancel Wizard'. Check out the BBB review - http://www.bbb.org/phoenix/business-reviews/work-at-home-companies/website-business-in-phoenix-az-97011414/ Why did I not read this first?

What is the story on the new version of AtomWord? That had to have some serious development into it? I can still log into AtomWord but everything else from Website Business is a dead stick. It recognizes when I use a bad password, telling me 'bad login'. but when I use the correct one it constantly refreshes the login window and tells me to log in. I have been dialing the number now for four days just to complete my feeling that the phone is off the hook inside a big empty warehouse. I have already contacted the BBB and filed a complaint. Tough part is... I want to keep my domain name... I paid for it. I just want it on another server so I can move on from here. Even on my site it says ' Copyright 2011 Todays Carbon Footprints all rights reserved'. I want the Website Business logo at the bottom off as well... And yes... I want to see KYLE WINN in jail. He is already familiar with it - Here is his inmate information - http://www.azcorrections.gov/inmate_datasearch/results_Minh.aspx?InmateNumber=190625&LastName=WINN&FNMI=K&SearchType=SearchInet

P.S. Is there anyone out there that knows who the Account Manager for my account of "Todays Carbon Footprints"? Or was I actually talking to KYLE WINN? Can anyone tell me that? I would post his name but I don't want to put him in a bad spot. I do have to give the Attorney General his name, however, because he was one of two people I had been in contact with throughout the process. Every time I think of the conversations I can picture KYLE WINN's mug shot from his jail time. - Was I actually speaking to him? Someone please let me know if you actually had account managers.

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website business Lies

I've always been told, It you have to pay somebody to work for then, then your being screwed. Now, I'm a believer and fore-ever will be. This company SUCKS!

Please read this if you write for Website Business.com. This company is such a joke that I can't even understand, they lie to you, charge you two much and what I mean about this is that last year they took out 14 months payments with-out my permission and it took for-ever to get my money back.

This June, they took out two payments, one on June 6th and the other one on June 22nd and it took me almost 3 weeks to get that extra payment back, now I'm not a rich person so that could have caused me some extra money in over-drafts. Now, if you only want to be disgruntled, this is the company to write for, if not, go else where.

I've had a post on here since last Thursday, July, 7th. It was supposed to be edited with-in 48 hours and it still isn't, so you tell me what's wrong with this picture? Website Business.com isn't the company you think it is.

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website business it is a scam

I agree wwith everyone that got involved with them people. They are rude, and they lie just to get that $199, and then probably sit back and say to themselves "another sucker." That is the way I feel. I tried it for 3 months because every time I had a problem they would literally scream at me, and tell me that was idiot. I wrote 8 postings on atword, and no one told me that I would not make money there, so I had to start over, and go to postzilla, and every time I would got to postzill I would have to reset my password. I had to reset my password 40 times, and that was every day. Then atword did not know who I was, so it would not except me. I got fed up, and called Mike Linsky, and after telling me that if it did not work out he would refund my money back he refused. Literally, screamed at me, and called me every name in the dictionary there is for a woman, then he says under know uncertain terms will he give me back my g.d. money. Well I just told him to kiss off the apple tree, and hung up on him.

This company needs most assuredly to be shut down because no one deserves to be treated the way he treated me.

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