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Vanguard Mutual Group used to be called Crimson lending group out of Aurora Illnois. DO NOT send wired money to this group because it is illegal for anyone to ask for upfront monthly payments for loans. It is AGAINIST the LAW to do so and these people are crooks. I was a victim of Crimson lending group which is now Vanguard Mutual Group and they will change their names as many times as possible to try to convince people that they are a an honest company trying to "help out people who wouldn't otherwise be able to get loans because of the credit crunch in banks". If anyone by the name of Ben Stevens, Steve Mayfair or Richard Smith calls, you know that they are scammers.
My story started out when a guy by the name of Steve Mayfair called me to tell me that I got a loan at a rate of 6% and that the person wanting to help me out was a "private" investor. He said that because of my previous credit problems, his "third" party company was going to help me out with the loan amount that I asked for. He faxed me documents that looked legal and he said that the documents were legal and it was bound by law. I believed it and I signed it and faxed it back to Steve Mayfair. He then told me that he needed $2346.00 to cover for four months and that I didn't have to pay for four months. He then told me that I had to wire it to Canada to a lady by the name of Barbara Galin and that I would get my loan directly deposited into the bank the next day. The loan never came and then he told me that I needed to further wire him an additional $2346.00 because of my debt to income ratio was soo high. I told him that I wanted my money back and then he said that he had to wait for the following pay period for the investor to return my money. They never returned anything and their website is no longer up. Don't fall for these guys because they are smooth and they will make you believe that they are out to help people. They are Scammers and I am going to report it to the BBB. Learn from my mistakes so PLEASE do not send them money because it is againist the law!

Update by Christy11
Oct 13, 2009 8:22 pm EDT

No don't do it because it is againist the US law to send money BEFORE you get your loan. I fell for the same thing and I have regretted ever since. I don't want anyone else to fall for the same thing that I have. They are not ligit and I have sent a complaint to the BBB about this company. I asked this man "Steve Mayfair, Ben Stevens, or Richard Smith" the same thing and he said: "There are other companies out there that claims to be a lending company but they pretend to be like us to rip people off. We are not that company and our "third" party company will be responsible for anything if the "investor" fails to come through." I know that he sounds sincere but he isn't and that's such a shame that he's targeting people like us because he's got our informations and calling us. Wiring money is against the law and you could call your attorney general and file a complaint againist this company. Call this lady again and ask for her license number. I bet that she's gonna say that you need an attorney to be able to get that information. Please don't fall for this trick because I did and I've been trying to warn people about this ever since it happened to me.
Even though you're talking to a female, they have several people that they are working with and it is a SCAM. They are targeting us because of past credit problems and they are probably saying that nobody else will loan us money except them. If it sounds too good to be true, it just is. Don't give them your bank information either because I had to change all of my informations after I fell for this. They probably faxed you documents that looked legal but take it to a local accredited bank and they will tell you that it's a scam to instill confidence in consumers to make it look legal. Believe me, I know that they sound really sincere and they want to help but they are just low lives that are targeting a very vunerable population (like you and me). Please don't do it! This company is a scam and their website looks legit but anyone with any website experience can do it. Call your attorney general in your state and report her! Nobody should go through what I went through and if I can help just one person out, it's worth it.

Update by Christy11
Oct 13, 2009 8:58 pm EDT

Wow, these low lives changed their number because I posted it on the complaint board. It use to be [protected] but I called [protected] and they are Cederway Financial Group and it was the same elevator music and with the same type of : "To reach your extension, dial it now or zero for a customer service representative. I spoke to a man and he said that he was Cedar Lending group and that he was not Crimson Lending group. Same voice and everything and he hung up on me. I then tried [protected] and it is called Brookview financial services out of Ohio. Surely enough, I talked to a "Peter" and I asked him some questions about his lending practices and paying upfront fees and how it was againist the law and he hung up on me. Same voice as "Steve Mayfair". I told him that I talked to the attorney general about his company and he just hung up. Oh yeah, I tried [protected] and it is Middlegate Financial Group with the same elevator music and everything. All of these 877 numbers are all connected and this scam is bigger than I thought. NOBODY should be a victim of these people!

Update by Christy11
Oct 13, 2009 9:31 pm EDT

JHughes74,
There number is no longer working and many othere people are victims of these scam artists!

Update by Christy11
Oct 20, 2009 9:39 pm EDT

Global Trust Funding is a SCAM. I checked out their website and they are not listed with the BBB. I called and checked out myslef and they just started their FAKE company. Do not SEND them any money and also do not give them your bank account informations. They are changing their strategies a little but the end result is the same, they want to scam you out of your money. No legit loan company would ask you to send money BEFORE you get your loan money because it is AGAINIST the law. They usually want you to wire it to a country outside of the US because the authorities here can't do anything about it. I filed a complaint with the BBB about this company so BEWARE of them. This company is a SCAM!

Update by Christy11
Oct 20, 2009 9:41 pm EDT

I called Bank of America and they have no idea what business Global Trust Funding is and they are warning me and other consumers to not do business with them.

Update by Christy11
Oct 24, 2009 9:40 pm EDT

They change their names all the time so be careful! Here are a list of names of companies that they go by:

Beckford financial Services
Brookview Financial Services
Cederway Financial Group
Crimson Lending Group
Eastgate Lending Group
Levington Lending Group
Middlegate Financial Group
Millfield Financial Group
Silvergate Financial Services
United Trust Financial Services
Vanguard Mutual Group
Westshore Lending Group
Bradford Financial Group
Uni-Trust Financial
Advocate Lending Group
Global Trust Funding
Trident Financial Service
Qualcare Financial

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caccarr
Peterborough, CA
Nov 09, 2009 12:00 am EST

Global trust funding is a scam adn I regret falling for it as well and was offerred the same..security payments, insurance or a car..then I was told I still needed insurance due to bad credit. I asked for a licence number and they gave me one..now I know it's fake...I talked to a supervisor Beth Adams who blamed the loan officer and then promised to fix it..I never saw my money. This is a complete scam and I feel stupid for falling for it but I got a contract, licence number and it all seemed legit..not so. Be careful!

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mickeygaines
Lake Forest, US
Oct 24, 2009 1:56 am EDT

You have a very grateful and thankful person here, my name is Michael. My car recently got repoed and I am of course in desperate need of transportation. I started by going to one of those general loan sites like LendingTree (it wasn't LendingTree but some company like that). A couple weeks went by, and I finally got the call I thought I was waiting for from Christine Dansbey (if that is even her real name) from Vanguard Mutual Group. This is going to follow the same pattern as the good folks above me...she said it took a while but she found me an approval for a $6000 loan. So I gave her a number to fax the docs to me. Just like with you guys it asked for up front money (almost $1100 in my case) due to my bad credit. I called Christine because I was not able to get the money together until today (10/23). She was very friendly and said that as long as I got it by the end of the month it would be fine. She even said that if I was a bit short then they would just add it to my first payment, which I would not have to make until, you guessed it, four months from now. Thank God that when I tried to call today, bank info and "documents" in hand, the phone was disconnected as you could guess. So I got out my BlackBerry, Googled Vanguard Mutual Group, and found all of your comments with the exact same patterns and same names that I dealt with. Thank God I did and thank you all, if you are wondering you have saved someone a huge loss that I could not have affoarded right now! I tored up that "contract" into about a million pieces and trashed it.

I really hope someone who can do something about this reads and that these c*cksuckers all end up in jail. I am so angry that they did this to you folks and that they are still trying to do it under different company names. The same people from "Vanguard" are probably now posing as other fake companies under different fake names. I wonder how people like this got my information. I am almost wondering if someone sold it to them, and now I am worried because who knows who might have my info now. This scam could be even on a bigger scale than anyone knows. Because of you folks at least I did not send any bank account info. I hope these people are shut down soon and thank all of you again, if you are wondering your efforts and stories have saved someone. Do lots of homework before you sign. Check with your financial advisor or institution, check with your state's BBB or the national BBB or whatever you have to do.

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emt03
, US
Oct 20, 2009 8:51 pm EDT

I to recieved a call from a Global Trust Funding. [protected] ext.668. I spoke with a Samantha Green. She said I had been approved for a 10, 000 dollar loan. She emailed me a contract. I signed it and faxed it back. She said they needed something to secure the loan. They gave me a choice of a co-signer, a Vehicle worth 35% more than the loan, or I could take out an insurance policy for 900 dollars. I decided to take out the insurance policy. I told her it would be 10/23 before I could send the money and she said that would be o.k. Then she asked me if I could send half of it now and the other half then. I said no, and she said that was fine, to call her back then. She also said that the funds would be deposited into my account from Bank of America. So, what do you think. Should I seen it or is it another scam? Check out their web site. WWW.Globaltrf.com

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Allyizzy
Cincinnati, US
Oct 14, 2009 5:22 pm EDT

Hey - I, too, nearly got scammed. I talked with Malinda, and I too would've been scammed if not for having to wait for my paycheck. Although I did try to call today and found the disconnected number. Oy, I'm old enough, and have been schooled in law enough, that I should have known better.

Now I will. I guess you live and you learn, as my mama says.

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almost got scamed
newport news , US
Oct 14, 2009 1:10 pm EDT

I totally agree this is happening to me right now. I called This company Vanguard Mutual group at [protected] and the phone was disconnected. So i looked the company up on line finding the REAL Vanguard a totally different company and they had no idea what i was talking about. I asked for a lady name Malinda Worner she was the one i spoke to the frist time she faxed me over some papers to signed which i did and sent it back . The only thing that saved me from being totally schamed is the fact that i had to wait a week before i got paid before i could send them the money and by this time the phone number was disconnected.

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Jlhughes74
Massillon, US
Oct 13, 2009 2:47 pm EDT

Hi, Christy11...

I was wondering how you found out that Crimson Lending was changed to Vanguard Mutual Group. My fiance is getting ready to send $1400.00 to Vanguard Mutual Group, but they want the money sent to Jamaica instead of Canada. The woman we are speaking to is Christine Dansby and she is reassuring me that this complaint is not legit (although I feel very different...a bunch of red flags went up for me when they switched the loan from $5, 000.00 to $10, 000.00 for $500 more). My fiance, on the other hand, does not want to believe this is a scam. He is supposed to send his money to a lady named Shanna Jones, as I suppose this is his "private investor". This Christine lady is so smooth, she has offered to meet us in her office so we can hand deliver a cashier's check instead of wiring the money. She is very crafty with her words, but I am still not buying it (never was). Can you tell me where I can find more information about this name change or about Vanguard Mutual Group? I have already called the finicial advisors with Vanguard and reported Vanguard Mutual Group as a fraud. The gentleman at Vanguard has reassured me that they are not affiliated with this "Vanguard Mutual Group" in no way.