United Associates review: Scentura Scam 49

Okay, you all are ridiculous! I have been with this company for just over a week... And I LOVE my job...! I don't understand how anyone can ever say they "scammed" you! And the information about the BBB is completely innaccurate. Here is known information on the company:

The facts are relatively straightforward:
• Scentura Creations was founded by Larry Hahn over 35 years ago.

• They hold an A+ rating with the Better Business Bureau (BBB).

• They are a manufactuer and distributor of rendition fragrances to Independent Resellers.

• The product line is trademarked Observe' L'Essence.

• Independent Resellers of Scentura's product aren't required to pay Scentura for the merchandise upfront.

• Most Independent Resellers provide experience to contractors on how to operate a Reseller operation.

• Neither Scentura, nor the Independent Resellers require any sort of financial investment.

again... How are people being scammed if they aren't asked to pay for anything...? PEOPLE! Don't dwell and blame someone else just because you weren't strong enough to get through the learning program...

They are still going on with this scam I also had an interview there, now they are called t and t associates. If they are not a scam i Dont know why so many people would be complaining about this. Complete joke and its sad they scam people for a living. Go do something better with your lives.

Thank you all who posted on this thread. You are life savers. I have been hearing from some friends about this place. Sounded like some red flags to me. Glad I found this site! Also, @Next -- Just reading your frustrated responses was enough to send me running the other direction. I'm so glad I'm not going to the 2 hour interview tomorrow. Kinda mad I took some personal time at my job now in order to do the first interview. Oh well. I may not like my current job, but at least I get a steady paycheck.

Yes, Executive Associates in Crystal, MN. This is exactly where I will NOT be going. I hope you guys get your reparations. Peace!

I am so glad I found this site..I went through the first and second interviews and after reading all of this, it is all coming together. I MUST add that my OPINION is NOT slander or libel. It's funny that 2 people during the second interview WALKED OUT because they were, as Jez would call them "skeptics/crybabies". I would call them intelligent. I'm not that bold I guess so I sat through the entirety. My butt hurt from sitting for 3 hours and I was so tired from my head being crammed with all this hoop-laa, that I vaguely remember hearing the words "Parking Lot" (Or P-A which is what I wrote in my notes) I should have considered that a red flag but I didn't until I got home and researched a bit. One thing I find interesting is that the name of the company consistantly changes which might be why it's hard to find them on bbb.org or just googling the name altogether. I fully understand that to grasp the concept of selling merchandise, and marketing you should start from the ground up to be able to put all aspects of the business to play. But if this company has a $10 million dollar expansion plan with "More business than they can handle" and they have so many re-order calls that they can't even get back to all of them, should be FAR beyond the need to sell PARFUME on the streets. I would rather make cold calls all day than look like a snake going up to strangers trying to sell the stuff, whether it's real or not.
In the past, I have had people try to sell me perfume at my place of business and I thought nothing of them but "Creep! Get away from me!" I wouldn't want someone to think that of me, and I would NEVER BUY PERFUME FROM A STRANGER ON THE STREET!
I have never went through an interviewing process like this, nor have I ever had to call the business to find out whether I got another interview or the job, if I am worth it to a company, they will call me. For all I know, they "hired" every single person in that interview. Skepticism is not a negative thing. To have skepticism at a job interview usually should mean you should get out while you can. If it doesn't seem legit (which it didn't) than it probably isn't.
I chose my words carefully, and even though I signed that piece of paper saying I won't post any negative comments on the internet, I can't help but feel compelled to at least share my OPINION. Again, an OPINION is not slander or libel.
It's safe to say I will not be showing up for orientation.

Stenchura's business practices are too reminiscent of the infamous Cydcor/DS-MAX...

JUICE to you! Join Us In Conning Everybody!

FYI- THEY ARE NOW GOING BY THE NAME OF EXECUTIVE ASSOCIATES AS INDICATED ABOVE. GENERIC WEBSITE fragrancesofthefuture.com. IF THIS DOESN'T PROVE IT ALONG WITH EVERYTHING ELSE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WILL.

Ha Ha, it's HILARIOUS that I am still reading new complaints on this. So sad, I fell for it too and never returned after the Orientation. Not worth much of my breath, but thought I would say IT'S ALL TRUE PEOPLE so DON'T FALL FOR IT.

Well...I was set up to interview tommorrow. I always research before I interview GLAD I did...I was looking for a side gig to get some extra $$, to help with my college loans... Thank God Im already employed because reading the way the current "employees" have nothing positive to say, and participate in childish bashing has completely turned me off...The information I was given was very vague, the girl on the phone said Id be doing "light office work" lol! Apparently not...Im good...think I'll just head to the mall to make my extra $300 a week.

This company is now called Executive Assistants, still up to their same old tricks..Still running adds for an office management position.
Current address is :
9220 Bass Lake Road
Executive Suite E
Crystal, MN 55428

Wow they make so much money scamming in motels now.

OMG! I have so much to say about this ridiculous place! Although I would like to take my time to deminimize this so called company I will just say this is by far the WORST job I have EVER excepted. Thankfully I listened to myself and followed all the red flags and walked out. I VOLUNTEERED (call it that casue you are NOT and I repeat you are NOT an employee) to stand outside and sell anybody this bullcrap perfume. When your in "Training" you learn the product as Britney Spears: Fantasy and so forth then on your 4th day or so you learn not only is it Britney Spears: Fantasy but indeed that same bottle is also the new Gucci Sport! HaHa get out of here. Go to Macy's smell the two. Such a Scam...and Its sad the people who will actually continue on with thier training cause like everyone we all need to make a dollar somehow. DO NOT FALL FOR THIS "COMPANY"!

Whatever im so over this company. They were shady from the start. They couldnt be honest about pay. They want you to basically risk your life on
the streets to do their dirty work. If it was a legit company why dont they pay for training like any other legit company. Why couldnt they say the name of the wholesale comp if its such a good company. Just lots of questions with no answers in return. They dont even pay their people who do sell the perfume or exscuse me fragrences... Blah, what a joke...

Ok first of all where ever you got the information from the Federal Business Bureau (BBB) is incorrect. You must have read it from someone else. The reason we defend our company that has trained us is because we know how great they truly are! Like they say it is not for everyone and those who it is not for are the ones on here getting mad because they couldn't make it though the training by choice. It's your own fault if you flake out or can't believe what you hear or see, or are negative and skeptical. It's your own fault if you succeed as well. If it is not for you then move on and get a $10 dollar an hour J-O-B.
Law Of Attraction!

I am in complete agreement with the comments made about Scentura not being honest. I found it hard to believe all of the complaints are virtually similar, and other than the companies themselves, not one person that I've read had anything positive to say. I had one interview, and it was exactly set up the same way everyone else said. Loud music, group interview, shabby surroundings, not a lot of information. I also had an odd feeling about the whole thing. The ad in the paper was for Receptionist/Customer Service. Fortunately, the woman next to me at the interview wanted to do some research on the company (Gryffon Mgmt), Scentura, and I thought that I'd check it out. I'm lucky I did. I only wasted a short afternoon and a small amount of gas. Thank you all for your information. As a single parent, giving up my part-time job for this company would have created a financial hardship.

Calling to ask questions and figure out the next time I work isnt showing effort? After going into two business' I was going on my own trying to sell bottles, but thats not drive or determination? Apparently you need a dictionary. It seems you like to point fingers at everyone else, but really your the one who dropped the ball. Saying " If your insecure you wont make it" and then saying that I made your employee insecure is a perfect example of you and your contradictions.

If there is one thing that I learned from you its that some people have a good attitude for 3 hours, 3 days, 3 weeks, or all the time, but then there are people like you who take advantage of it all.

OK OK you guys are legit just tell me this. Why have you guys been reported to the federal business bureau by multiple people and your rating is an F? No but you right you guys are straight up with everyone and tons of people are just out to get you right? Cmon on now, the labor standards investagter has already told me what I had to do to get the money your company owes me, but hey this guy probly does not know anything either right? Dang wish I know everything like you, maybe someday.

It's sad that people are willing to prey on other people in this economy. But, I guess thats the way things are in this world. I do however like how the people that are in the wrong, try to make the people that were wronged look like bad people. That's really upsetting. Oh well, such is life. For anyone that feels like there is something wrong with this "company", then do the research, ask the questions, and come to your own desicion. That's what I did, and I don't regret it for one second. They will make you feel like you'll never find a "opportunity" like thiers. They will try to make you feel like your not worth anything in the business world. Believe me, it is not true. You'll find a good job. Sure, it may not be your dream job, but it'll be better then trying to hustle perfume on a street corner when it's -20 or 120 outside. The comment about having a good attitude is so funny to me. If you want to move on from something because your not happy with, it doesn't mean you have a bad attitude. It means that it just doesn't work out for you. If you warn others about something you know is bad, that does not make you a bad person. Where has anybody seen on the internet or anywhere, people speaking about Scentura or any other related "companies" with exclaim? Type in Scentura in any search engine and the first things that come up are scam, fraud, lie. I have yet to see a blog other than by the "company" itself, that praises Scentura or United Assoc. If it walks like a duck, and quakes like a duck, chances are? That's right folks. It's simple. The sad thing is that no one will see this before they get sucker'd in. It's only after they've been mislead and decieved that they go on to do some research, or like me you do some before hand, but can't find anything because there is nothing on United Associates. But there soon will be. And then the wolf will change it's sheep clothing to a lambs and then back again to keep the masses guessing. WHACK! Please don't be discourage, you'll find work. You'll find a job. You can make that your career! Stick in there, and be aware of the people looking to just barely make it by being dishonest to others. I have a gig at Big V's on 3/5 come see some ambient, garage, punk rock with the best saw player in the twin cities!

If asking questions to someone is going to make someone Insecure than they already were.

Jez, u were the biggest [censored]ter in a company. We both tried contacting you but never got answers from you in a week. U should learn to represent yourself better. I am requesting pay for the time I was with you. I have contacted an attorney regarding this joke. You maybe be a real company but don't tell anyone the truth about what they are doing. I trusted you and my interview. If what is posted on here is a lie than why do u feel u have to even defen.d yourself. I know lots of people in Duluth so I wouldn't try sticking around cause the business will never take off here now. Word of mouth travels fast around here.

And none the less still made it less then Three days.

Who knew that we know what we are talking about.

Some people have a good attitude for 3 hours
Some people have a good attitude for 3 days
And some people have a good attitude for 3 weeks
And then there are the rest of us that have a good attitude.

You guys failed the Attitude, Effort, and Desire test known as the learning program. But just like anything some people pass and others fail. This business just isn't for everybody.

Jackiy and Jerri you need to get over yourselves. I told you guys it'd be a lot harder for you to complete the training then anyone else. Because we don't have a permant location there in Duluth. I've got almost 4 office up and running in 15 weeks. You guys had a shot at the Duluth region and dropped the ball.

You two worked with a trainer and bombarded her with questions to the point where she got so insecure she didn't even want to work with you. We tell you that if you're that insecure you're not gonna make it. And you guys obviously didn't want to come to the source for the right answers. But I wish you both good luck.

I have not been really naming names but at least with the discriptioning of the manager everyone else had I know I am not the only one concerned for the people of Duluth, Mn. Everything they say in your interviews and orientation they really mean something else all together. I have told people my experience with this company. I have contacted the correct groups about this company and was told they need to pay for my time wasted. Also on my street training they had me drive around so I was told I should be paid for gas. Guess I was to trusting in others. I am a good person and feel bad that I even went to businesses and disrespected other people.

And will be letting everyone from duluth mn that u are a scam

biggest joke ever seen SCAM! And the bald manager is the worst business man i ever seen he is making a living prob not a good one on scaming people i will be praying for this guy he needs it dude a joke

This company to me sounded shady in the 2nd interview. Thwy said that the pay during training is meant to meet your needs... Well it def did not meet my needs. I sold bottles still havent gotten paid for it and I have people that I need to support. The people there like cindie said if you dont participate in the afterhour you dont matter to them. If you people who used to be with the company did you ever see they kept having interviews. We werent special to them. But whatever if its a legit company why were we in parking lots and on street corners. Jusy shadiness all around... Sorry guys...

If its not a scam why arent they straight forward with any questions you ask? You got my social security and information out of me, have me sell bottles in my home neighborhood and then dont answer calls or call back (4 days later) after spending lets see here 14 hours of my time for YOU! Not only are my calls and messages being ignored, But they have been rejecting my calls. They said they would call me. ( as well as the other person I was training with) Its called promissory estopple when someone relies on a promise you made to them and then you FLAKE out! People get sued for that all the time! Ive called numerous times and even tried an "employee" (who of course said "I cant really remember" when asked if they trained in an office or on the street) and have gotten no answer or reply. I also asked her "Are you getting paid for your training time" and she said "It depends on the person." After a little investigating even the phone number they gave me was a lie. She said she lives in Hinckley and thats where the office is then why is her number a land line from Minneapolis? A letter that she sent to me had no return address on it but a St. Paul stamp as well. Its discouraging to me that Im reading offensive things from the "employees or managers" of this business, why cant they just answer the questions? They "arent in the business of wasting peoples time" but it seems thats all they have been doing. Even thru all the shadiness I was willing to give this job a try untill I just read the comments made by "managers." No, Standing outside in the cold walking up to cars in parking lots (a member of the team pitched to someone I know in the parking lot of where I was training so I know they do this) like a hooker or drug dealer is "not for me" but I was willing to give it a chance for the right reason. I believe I read one comment saying "J" and then after, two "managers" replied back on a personal level. (Using names and attacking) Any manager that has any negative comment about an ex-employee "in the unemployment line" isnt a manager I want anyway. You can have all the money in the world if you want it, at the end of the day Im a good person who knows there are more important things in the world than that. AND you can have your shady business just give me my information back! If its not a scam there is no reason for you to want those contracts and my social security number! I have called every phone number I have for these people, If this doesnt work I dont know what will.

I showed nothing but desire, drive, and determination and I was the one who got FLAKED out on.

I won't say this is a scam or not. I truly thought this company was legitimately a company which it most likely is but they are right it is not for everyone. If u want to be a manager for united just know you will be a sales person as well. They tell you that you will make 200 to 500 during your training but forget the part that only if you make sales. I had a trainer who did not remember where she had been training. She also kept saying who doesn't want to smell good but she had bad odor. Has for those who said us who don't make it won't make money don't understand we can. I have and will again. Not everyone who was stupid enough to try for this job was unemployed some just wanted something more.

I hate that all of you posting say that you have been with the company for 3 or 4 days and less then 30 days... You can't learn everything in one day yet alone 30. I have been with the company for 60+ days... I am currently working on an office. Some people can only have a good attitude for 3 days or less apparently. This company has given me an opportunity that no one else has ever given me. So if you have been here for less then 30 days you have nothing to stand on.
P.S. to those who said we sell fake perfume you obviously didn't take good notes or listen very well you can't patten perfume because it is made from nature.

I don't know who you are MissClaire but I'd be glad to bash on you if I knew you were a idiot. But that's the fun of these blogs anyone can post their opinions.

And just for the record cindie... You did 16 once all on your own with at least 10 coming from your friends and family. You went out one time on a real power team and did good. But just like we say the difference between training and and being a manger in consistency. Which you were nothing even close to consistent. After the one time you did good I saw you one more time. And oh yeah don't forget that I gave you almost $100 in gas money. And for the record you didn't even make it a full 30 days. And then if you count the days that you missed most other places don't put up with 6 absenses in in less then 30 days. Good luck mam

I think it is awfully funny that the posts trying to defend the company actually make the company look worse. You are trying to defend yourselves, and yet there are numerous spelling mistakes, name calling, sharing of former employees personal information, and even one threatens a former employee with a law suit. Just seems interesting that you are trying to make yourself look better and sound even more negative than the people who are trying to warn others about their experiences. But I guess thats just my opinion. I am supposed to come in for an interview with this company but the comments from the people who still work there are what has changed my mind. Now, I'm curious how many negative things you'll have to say about me.

I Actually stayed with United for over 30+ days and was talked to about opening an office in the hinckley area where "mom" was helping out. I was told that the program was "Show and Go" and I did just that. I was told that I could still move forward even without going "Out of town" in my opinion if you DONT go and stay and participate in the "afterhour 5:30" then you dont go any farther. I was older then the average so it made it more different but I did the "show and Go" and they didnt seal thier end of the deal. The communication between GP and JEZ is not very good. He was telling me one thing and she would tell me something else. I was driving 50 miles one way and really Believed in United but once I couldnt afford to drive newbies around anymore or because I was not producing 10 bottles a day they forget who you are and how hard you really tried. I always put all my effort into everything I do, even when I went out of my comfort zone to Lake st, Minneapolis and sold Parfume on the street. They still dont appreciate who you are. My opinion on United is if you have nothing else to do with your time and have money coming in and like to drink Tequila and get drunk. This is the Job for you. I was there to be a manager which I could do a hell of alot better then MOST of the people in training now. But thats not what they want. Thanks Cindie

this place is a joke, i doubt they care if you have experience, office experience. I went there a toal of 3-4 days and i left because this place is pure BULL. I fell for there new scripting on craigslist yet again now twice again. TWICE!...luckily i remembered there such overly postive voices "HELLLO THIS IS BLAH BLAH FROM UNITED!" I hung up the second time. Im surpised they regonize my name my resume my number. Obiously not. IM NOT FREEZING MY ### AGAIN for that company fwith fake perfume, sorry PARFUME!

@Next - If you were a legitimate company... I don't think getting online defending yourselves to others' OPINIONS would even be in your radar... just saying. You'd think the company would speak for itself and no defending would be necessary. Again, just saying.

I just started with the company. I did my 2 interviews and my 2 days of orientation. I have already made money! To succed you have to believe! The ways to believe is by trying and learning. If you learn about the parfume/fragrances, and try as hard as you know how to try, you will succeed. I have learned in life that you have to work to get what you want. Don't give up till you try. I am 150% committed to this company!
Reenie

@Next-everybody here gets it pal.. your company is great blah blah blah...now go f%^& yourself and move on...

And oh by the way sorry Ms. Maggie obviously you were one of those people we talk about that has a really good attitude for 3 hours or 3 days but really you're just negative.

And Ms. Shawna good luck with the new baby you are do in August right? Hopefully you can find the position that fits you best and can take care of your infant.

You blow-outs are all the same. You come here and are here less then 3 full days and think you know it all. It's funny how you outright lie to make yourselves feel better. Couple of questions for you blow-outs to answere?

1. Where is the scam? You are never asked for any fee, investment, and you never have to buy anything.
2. You obviously don't listen well or take good notes because you'd hear us say you are not going to be a employee of our office you are applying for a management position in a new office. If it's not a management position then how come all of us are here? How come we just closed the deal on our first promotion in only 7 weeks of training. And we are about to close out 2 more in the next couple of weeks?
3. Last I checked anyone that participates at ALL in the training makes money. So how are you working for free?
4. Maybe instead of bashing us because we made it you should look into the mirror and ask yourself what have you done with your life. I know part of the answer is you are currently unemployed.

Yes you have to complete step 1 sales and marketing, yes you have to complete step 2 Teaching and Training, yes you have to complete step 3 managment and admin. And upon completion of your training you are guarenteed a office with no investment no fees and you never have to buy anything. And we put it in writing to protect you and us.

So blow-out keep being negative and broke while you wait in the unemployment line.

SCAM SCAM SCAM! You are never 'hired' on- you never sign a w-2. Basically, they have you out on the street corner in the frigid cold selling their so-called top designer brand perfume for FREE! Wow, what a great 'office management' position! A LEGITIMATE COMPANY WOULD HIRE YOU (hire you as in truly HIRE you, sign w-2's) AND PAY YOU FOR ANY TRAINING NECESSARY FOR THE POSITION. Obviously 'United' is a complete scam. Completely unprofessional. Desperately scamming people into 45-60 days of work for F-R-E-E! With no guarantees of an office. DONT DOOOOO IT! Go with your initial gut instinct about the place- because you are RIGHT.

I recently had an interview with United after I responded to an ad for an office management position. The lady on the phone was very vague but I went in for the interview anyway. I went to the office and the appearance of the office is very unprofessional yet I gave it a try. The interview was really fast, almost too fast. The interviewer spent the time discussing the position very very vaguely and I immediately was able to tell that this was a position where I would be opening my own office and all of that. She asked me very few questions about myself and my experience which obviously leads me to believe that experience doesn't matter. I am not saying that this is a scam, because if it truly was, it wouldn't still be around. However, it is clear that they are looking to mass hire to have people do the dirty work for them. They need to market these positions appropriately and not hide behind a office management title and take advantage of eager unemployed professionals. I was offered the position, which is shocking since they hardly asked me anything. I just hope people take the opportunity fully knowing what they are getting into. Props to anyone who is successful, but this is not the position that they market it to be. Good luck!

The "job" is a scam! The only positive reviews on here are from employees! DO NOT "WORK" FOR THEM!