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Thunder Audio Video / Merchant account scam

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Retailers and Merchants have been being contacted over the last 2 years about changing their current credit card machines to comply with a new law that does not print all the credit card numbers on the receipts that merchants print off their machines. It is California Civil Code 1747.09. Some of the merchant companies, including my own Wells Fargo contact you saying you have to upgrade to the new machines, forcing you into a new lease, forcing you into a new machine even if your machine currently works fine. Many internet retailers and non face to face retailers do not realize that in Section 3 part A they are excluded from the new law that goes into effect Jan 2009. So these companies have been contacting retailers saying they HAVE to get new machines for 2 years, and they do not have to comply until Jan 2009. Sounds like a Class Action Lawsuit. These companies are coming to EVERYONE saying they have to change, not bothering to tell anyone about the exclusion.

1747.09. (a) Except as provided in this section, no person, firm, partnership, association, corporation, or limited liability company that accepts credit or debit cards for the transaction of business shall print more than the last five digits of the credit or debit card account number or the expiration date upon any of the following:

(1) Any receipt provided to the cardholder.

(2) Any receipt retained by the person, firm, partnership, association, corporation, or limited liability company, which is printed at the time of the purchase, exchange, refund, or return, and is signed by the cardholder.

(3) Any receipt retained by the person, firm, partnership, association, corporation, or limited liability company, which is printed at the time of the purchase, exchange, refund, or return, but is not signed by the cardholder, because the cardholder used a personal identification number to complete the transaction.

(b) This section shall apply only to receipts that include a credit or debit card account number that are electronically printed and shall not apply to transactions in which the sole means of recording the person's credit or debit card account number is by handwriting or by an imprint or copy of the credit or debit card.

(c) This section shall not apply to documents, other than the receipts described in paragraphs (1) to (3), inclusive, of subdivision (a), used for internal administrative purposes.

(d) Paragraphs (2) and (3) of subdivision (a) shall become operative on January 1, 2009.

So as you can see if the 3 exclusions in section A do not apply to your business, you do not need a new machine. My machine was not supposed to work almost 2 years ago and still works fine today. I would have paid $1500 in leasing fees to this point if I would have taken their (you have to do it) and bought another machine. This seems like a scam to go to struggling businesses and force them into a $2000 machine that you can buy online for $200, give more money to the rich banks that make bad loans and get bailed out after they rip everyone off. Anyone in this situation should look into it, cause Visa/MC have been involved in scams that ended up in Class action law suits that ended in a judgement for the Retailers..

Va

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