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I received a letter from these people to send $139.95 for life secrets. Well, I sent the money. Needlesstosay I was scammed and unable to retrieve the money I sent for the "inside secrets". Oh yeah, they give you telephone and fax numbers but refusal to make any refund. I again received a second installment due for another $139.95 as a second and final payment. This "organization" is scamming america. Wish there is something I could do to get my $140 refunded from these people. Sad and ripped off! Don't do it...

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WanderinWTF
elk grove, US
Sep 08, 2021 5:29 pm EDT

i just want to say there is a message within i am sure every ones is differant. i am not rich nor can i give everyone here their full portion back. however i was contacted just like all of you here. i was offered it for free of course i sometimes know what comes with it and still do it lol these days [censored] is not cool at all. if everyone could say how they want it done please i just want to make it right with each one of you they did the purpose and thats to bring all of us together welcome to the secret society. atleast maybe. reading over these by you all everyone here is special brilliant differant more than likely all natural no learning just doing. i myself can do many things like you all here one is i can see probability and sequence in shapes as well as numbers lol i seen the messages and even pictures lol i can give so many stories i have so many of the times that someone or many was looking out for me for whatever reason i dont know or how things became or things disapeared to reappear i stopped tryinig to break down every little detail and just like ok owell while saying some joke hopefully this society this league this group this team all of us become tighter cause i know these days someting has gotta give all the tragic things i am reading about all the horrible things that just dont seem right that dont add up needs to stop. i can do so many things i have done so many things already they know me i put myself out there a while ago. however by myself ya ok i can move clouds and shift the wind i can rip the hearts from cyclones but i am alone the things that could get done with help is heart changing. i am not rich at by anymeans wish i was wish i had money at times lol where i did those things public with writings the owner of the site sold it became a millionaire i am sure i doubt it was on the market for very long before someone shut it down he listed it for 3mil i know this is crazy of course life is but i am not afraid to say what i am or the gifts i earned. and if this was to single anyone out to track us come on lets go im not hiding just know what comes with it

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Jeffrey Belden
, US
Jul 10, 2021 7:09 am EDT

What about someone reporting it to the post master general? I'm going to. They should be able to locate whoever is doing this. As I got one a few days ago, thought it was a scam when they used Saul alinskis technique's.

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Macnkids2
Bristol, US
Jun 08, 2021 8:51 pm EDT

I got a letter today, what got me was if they "knew" me as well as they said they did, why did they call me Mary instead of Mary Ann? I live in a low income elderly apartment complex and I'm very concerned whether any other seniors got this letter so I decided to look online so I could show the letter to our service coordinator and see if she could send out a flyer to warn everyone to stay away from this. I once had a pc problem and thought I was calling McAfee and instead dialed a number that labeled themselves as McAfee but they weren't..they got access to my laptop and found a "virus" and offered to clean it for $250.00 which I was very upset about because I had a contract with McAfee..so I refused and ran a directory of my C drive as they did and found NO VIRUS! I called back and asked them why when I ran a check on my c drive I couldn't find it..they said, "Oh, you know about computers?" I said yes and they hung up on me and when I tried to call back, the number was disconnected! So terrible! I quickly learned my lesson and am very cynical of everyone now..thank God I did some research..the sad thing is a lot of people fall for this, , we have everything we need in God, the world is desperate to find happiness in "things"..we can only find peace in Christ even if we have nothing but Him..God bless everyone.

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Jeffrey Belden
, US
Jul 10, 2021 7:16 am EDT
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With God, we've got it all. These people need to find him. Happy that they didn't scam you. I thought it was satanic when they mentioned skull and bones being beneath them. Stay strong, and informed.

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Macnkids2
Bristol, US
Jun 08, 2021 8:42 pm EDT

I got a letter today, what got me was if they "knew" me as well as they said they did, why did they call me Mary instead of Mary Ann? I live in a low income elderly apartment complex and I'm very concerned whether any other seniors got this letter so I decided to look online so I could show the letter to our service coordinator and see if she could send out a flyer to warn everyone to stay away from this. I once had a pc problem and thought I was calling McAfee and instead dialed a number that labeled themselves as McAfee but they weren't..they got access to my laptop and found a "virus" and offered to clean it for $250.00 which I was very upset about because I had a contract with McAfee..so I refused and ran a directory of my C drive as they did and found NO VIRUS! I called back and asked them why when I ran a check on my c drive I couldn't find it..they said, "Oh, you know about computers?" I said yes and they hung up on me and when I tried to call back, the number was disconnected! So terrible! I quickly learned my lesson and am very cynical of everyone now..thank God I did some research..the sad thing is a lot of people fall for this, , we have everything we need in God, the world is desperate to find happiness in "things"..we can only find peace in Christ even if we have nothing but Him..God bless everyone.

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Lisa Waddell
Perry, Florida, US
Apr 25, 2021 11:58 am EDT

Received 2 letters, one from "Tom", another from "Mike", all the same rhetoric you all mentioned.THIS IS A SCAM.Right now I am in possession of almost 30, 000$ in checks from scammers wanting me to cash these checks and buy certain pre-paid gift cards and take pictures of the front and back.Oh yes, and calls from Social security, IRS it goes on and on.I received a call one time from an IRS agent claiming Law Enforcement had found 2 murdered bodies at one of my 2 homes in Texas in one of my many vehicles.They had my name, and just enough info.I hung up.IRS nor Social security calls you personally.Called the Inspector General about all the checks I was receiving and they mailed me a printout paper to write it all down.They aren't interested in doing what they're paid to do.Bottom line, I burnt all the checks and have never lived or owned anything in Texas
The whole world is the Devil's and he has only a short time.Dont fall for it

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Sharla Miller
, US
Apr 20, 2021 9:45 pm EDT

Today was the first time I've ever received a letter like this. I'll admit I was intrigued at first but as I read each page the more it sounded just like every other scam letters. I'm pretty sure anything that was legit wouldn't be sending a printed out form type letter. Oh and would at least put in a postage free return envelope. The first thing I did was look up the address on envelope and found this site. I'm glad to see you all saw it for the scam it is. Shame on those people for ripping people off this way. God provides me with what I need.

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I've got a deal for you!
, US
Dec 23, 2020 5:24 pm EST
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Greetings Everyone!

I, too have received numerous copies of this letter. I tracked down all the info from the "presorted" bulk mail postmark, etc., and all of you ae spot-on!

The letter DOES come "First Class" as stated, but you should note that the 41.9-cent printed rate is a bulk-rate charge. As the letter, return envelope and outer envelope weigh 1.6 ounces, the proper non-bulk rate postage would be 70-cents (55-cents for the first ounce and an additional 15-cents for the weight of UP TO the 2nd ounce.) So, just from the outer envelope, you can know you're "not so special".

It's a GREAT letter that follows almost EVERY SINGLE tool used by "ropers" in Confidence Games:

-Find a "mark" that likely has money or has a need for money. This is generated from lead brokers.
-Appeal to the "chump" by flattering them, showing sympathy ("I know how you feel. I know what you've gone through. I've been there myself.") This is the "pitch".
-Make the "chump" feel special and like he/her is being "let-in" on something restricted and not available to others. ("I've reached out to your PERSONALLY and this is not a mass mailing.") This is the "set-up".
-Now, show that there is a way to be better, get more, solve your problems, be rich, be loved. ("I have the secret to do ALL of those things! It works and I want to show YOU that secret FOR FREE because you are special.") This makes an appeal to avarice/greed/desperation. This is the "hook".
-Get the "mook" to "set the hook" in their own mouth by saying the "secret if FREE". It makes it seem better when the con encloses a return envelope to generate a sense of urgency. By adding in a "deadline" it heightens the awareness of the "chump" and entices them to "act fast" so as to not miss out. Note that the return envelope contains NO pre-paid postage:. It doesn't need to: suckers will always put their own stamp on scams such as this to not miss "deadline". This is the "press".
-The "dupe" responds and gets the second letter stroking them yet again and then reveals that for a "greatly reduced" price they can get the "full inside secret", but they have to "act fast". This is the "putting the chump on the send" for more money.
-Now, all the sender has to do is collect money and delay any meaningful response with excuses and explanations for why the full set of materials never show-up. Eventually people give-up due to frustration, won't report it to any authority as it's a further hassle, and will likely NEVER admit to ANYONE that they got scammed because of a fear that it will make them look stupid to others for falling victim to such a pitch. This is the "blow-off" of the "mark".

This is they way it's been for HUNDREDS of YEARS and it works like a charm to this very day.

Smarten up, Folks! There's people out there that want to "skin" others. If you read this, you just received information MORE VALUABLE than you would ever get from promotions like this. AND, wonder of wonders, YOU REALLY DID GET IT FOR FREE!

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Lady tired of scams
, US
Oct 20, 2020 6:17 pm EDT
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I received the same letter, same address out of Utah, and name of Tom. I agree that it is time for our government to put a stop to these scams! How are they getting are names, address to send them? Time to put a stop to all of the scams everywhere! Government do your jobs, I'll back you up and let's put a stop to these scams once and for all! Received on 10/20/2020

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Stee Stee
, US
Jul 16, 2020 5:39 pm EDT

They've been sending me this letter time and time again in a span of 5 years since I was in my early thirties, and I;m 56 now. They said back then and still today, if I didn't respond within the time frame to return the letter with the 2nd and final installment, I would lose out. SO here I am, almost thirty something years later, and their still after me, trying to get my money. Well, I'm going to send this form back to them with a personal note again, to let them know that the only one who can help me unlock these powers to get riches, love, and happiness is God Almighty Himself. He's the only one who can guide me to what it is that I seek...PERIOD!

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Norma Nelson
, US
Mar 23, 2021 9:05 am EDT
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I to receive a letter from these people, three years in a row, this the first time I ever read the whole thing, and for someone who came to know me so well, they don't know [censored] about me, for one am not rich and I just work a regular job like most people but am not suffering am not depress and am not lonely, and I can take care of my self very well. this the third time and every time this what they say if I don't respond I will lose my spot. so why the letter keeps coming I lost my spot from the first letter. so I decide to type the address in, and here and behold all these people talking about them, lol but they say it's no cost to you so how did you all have to pay that money. taught is was free.

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Linda Mucciolo Serbouti
, US
May 20, 2020 12:08 am EDT
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Got papers from the society today with a revelations booklet I sent away for. I was invited into the society so I could receive a 1200 page manuscript of ancient secrets to a better life... asking for money of course... I threw the papers in the garbage... will not be scammed... sorry to see many of you lost money... be vigilant!

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vanessa mobley
, US
Mar 12, 2020 10:59 am EDT

Got the same Letter Yesterday! It has SCAM written ALL over it! DON'T Fall for this BS People!

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vanessa mobley
, US
Mar 12, 2020 10:57 am EDT

I got one yesterday. The same Letter ! It has SCAM written ALL over it! DON'T Fall for this BS people!

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Harold Sink
, US
Feb 08, 2020 11:53 am EST

I received the invitation letter to "The Society" two weeks ago. Being skeptical and knowing it was a scam by the way it was written, I sent in the agreement which was due the day I received it. I also corrected the address as it requested. Yesterday, I finally received my book, "Greatest Secrets of all times!" It read very similar to "Acres of Diamonds" by lacked the writing luster of it. Their "secret message" isn't there as they kept writing about on and on.

So here is a run down on the whole thing. My mentor, "Bill" claims he is looking out for me. The first dead give away is that the second mailing reads "Domestic First Class / Foreign Airmail." What? Isn't that an oxymoron? So the stamped area by the US Post Office has the zip code 75236, which is a Dallas, TX zip code in the neighborhood of Ledbetter Hills. The return address is 4119 Logans Way, Perry, OH 44081. This is the present or former address of the Gamieres, Joshua and Kerri. I tried to get a street view of the house but was unable to do so. Spokeo helps quite a bit.

The address to send in for the 2nd installment for $139.95 at a 43% discount is: The Society, 3490 South 4400 West #701890, West Valley City, UT [protected]. This is a US Post Office, and the # is for the PO Box mentioned after the street address. The additional 4 on the zip gives that away.

Anytime you receive a letter that promises something over and over, it is a scam. I have worked with attorneys and other law enforcement people, and know how to identify these things. Don't be taken in to their story. "Bill" can try to excommunicate me from The Society for writing this, but he can't stop me from living my life.

I feel like sending a $1 money order to them for the book, and have it sent certified in order for them to sign for it. It would be funny to include a letter stating that the $1 is a down payment for the 2nd installment.

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Jason1204
, US
Oct 22, 2019 6:53 pm EDT

I too received this letter today 10/22/19 from "The Society" . It is like many others stated a waste of money; however i would like to clarify for so many how and why they get away with it. It is technically NOT A SCAM ! The fact that they send you a "product" (the book of secrets) for your money technically makes them a business that sells a real and tangible product. If it were a scam you would get nothing. Likewise, the fact that they will not refund anyone is easily explained by the fact that they could claim that you have already viewed their "intellectual property". Fact is, its only a scam if you beleive it is and the only way to protect yourself from losing money to something you cant fund value in is to not send them money to begin with.

Sorry if i ruffled any feathers but im just speaking my mind.
Jason

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D. Kay
, US
Oct 21, 2019 4:10 pm EDT

They are still at it received a letter with a return address of 3490 South 4400 West #70629 West Valley City, UT 84120. Don't understand how they FBI Police or Post Master hasn't stopped this B.S..

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Kerry Aswani
, US
Oct 10, 2019 5:40 am EDT

Contact the Postal inspector. They handle mail fraud & determine what can be done. Fraud thru the mail is a federal offence.

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Seth Rapella
, US
Sep 26, 2019 2:38 pm EDT

How has the FBI not arrested these people yet?

https://shiftingtheodds.com/
neothink.com

https://www.godaddy.com/whois/results.aspx?domain=shiftingtheodds.com

Registrant Name: Steve Rapella
Registrant Organization: Rapella Holdings, LLC
Registrant Street: 2435 W. Horizon Ridge Parkway
Registrant City: Henderson
Registrant State/Province: Nevada
Registrant Postal Code: 89052
Registrant Country: US
Registrant Phone: +1.[protected]
Steve@neothink.com

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DoodzMailbox
, US
Sep 04, 2019 3:42 pm EDT

I h.ave gotten two of these letters. one from the Society, the other from the League...about three years apart. Not going to regurgitate what has already been said...enough said

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Bernard
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Aug 21, 2019 12:06 am EDT

This address is an office of USPS on google map. probably just a mail box. I don't understand why the police can't crack down this kind of fraud. At least they gave out their fax number. The police should be able to identify and locate the scammer. It is odd that after so many years, this scam is still running.

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Ed Dellinger
, US
Jul 17, 2019 3:29 pm EDT

July 17, 2019 ~ "The Society"! I, at least got a chuckle out of your mailing today. ..."just for me, huh"?! For us ADHD persons, blah blah blah, too [censored]in' long! I was bored before finishing the first page. However, if you'll send me $280, cash only, to the same address, I'll give you a couple of tips on how to sweeten that hook up! But hurry, this offer expires at 11:59pm on July 22, 2019!

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Yasin Ismail
, US
Jul 15, 2019 7:38 pm EDT

Thank you for this answer

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KnightCoder1
, US
Jun 28, 2019 2:25 am EDT

@John Smitters, Hey John, You should be a RICH MAN by now, How's about sending me $140.00 so I can buy the book ? Awww come on now, you can afford it now that you have All THE SECRETS, ROFLMAO :-)

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Bukk Holiday
, US
Jun 13, 2019 9:22 pm EDT

Im not even going to lie to you but this is the second time I've received something from this group the first time was back in 1997 when I turned 17 and I just received one today in the mail I remember it after reading it the first time I was sent this information it had the same b.s story only difference is it was like a book with some pictures in it and this one is a packet of some sort of it a scam then they really want me I don't know what to do to...

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Darkskys805
, US
May 28, 2019 7:59 pm EDT

The UT processing address is a Post Office Building according to Google Maps. The fax number is registered to a guy in TX. Big time scam.

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Cindy Flores
, US
May 21, 2019 8:23 am EDT

I'm so glad to hear from other people about the same BS letter. I sat there and read it. it just kept going back and forth about the same crap. not falling for this one. I have been scammed in the past. my husband and I are honest, hard-working people. we're remodeling our home and like anyone else always looking for odd jobs to do in order to earn an honest buck. well someone took advantage and we were taken for a lot of money. boy did we feel stupid. but we got back on the saddle worked even harder with some overtime here and there. and by the Grace of God, we are back on track. goes to show you can't trust anybody. so my advice, burn the letter, tear it up. that's what I did.

Cindy

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Armida Gallegos
, US
May 07, 2019 7:11 pm EDT

How do I deny them. I never sent money but asking for $139.95

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John Smitters
, US
Apr 03, 2019 10:07 pm EDT

The Society provides life-changing secrets to its members. I have been a member for many years. It has changed my life. The Society is no scam. And yes they refund anyone not interested; they have for over a half century without missing the very few who don’t want their secrets.

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Omeomya
, CA
Apr 03, 2019 10:32 pm EDT

Yeah. OK and I would like to sell you the George Washington bridge for a nickel. No scam!

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quantmlp71
Philadelphia, US
Apr 02, 2019 6:02 pm EDT

Thank you everybody for posting these messages. I now know not fall for "The Secret Society" b.s. Google "Finbarr International" for real inside information books that are much cheaper. In sharp contrast to "The Secret Society", Finbarr International is company with good reputation that promptly sends out orders for inside information books that are not a ripoff. I know because I have been a customer of Finbarr International for many years.

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Tit4tat
, US
Mar 01, 2019 12:57 pm EST

Honestly, I can be quite gullible but this letter is insane! I, too, have experienced the misfortunes of receiving an invitation from Utah and now Nevada. My NV letter is different but all the same still a scam to get your hard earned money before receiving your, “Real Cash Secrets”! I believe these mailers are stemming from online surveys that you take for what personality you have. I graduated last May, and prior to graduating, we had to take a survey describing our characteristics. Shortly after, I received the same, first class-striped with red and blue, envelope addressed to me and “only me”. I read all of it, getting bored, about half way through it and decided to share with my better half. He believed it to be a scam from the start but I reluctantly sent in for my 55pages. I received the booklet and found it to be more jargon thrown together and dismissed any other content I received. My deadline came and went, plus about 4 more deadlines, before I sent them the paper, “ requesting them to pay me for-my wasted time reading their garbage!” I wrote to say they were a scam and didnt have $150 for them to live off of my dreams of becoming wealthy. After sending them my piece of mind, my invitation/ deadline mail-ceased! Last month, I decided to take another personality survey and low and behold, guess what showed up last week in the mail? Yet, another, first class red&blue striped envelope arrived, asking for me to submit for my FREE booklet, before submitting $139.50 for final installment! Got to give them credit- they are persistently doing the devils work! PLEASE HEED ALL THESE WARNINGS, THESE PEOPLE DO NOT CARE ABOUT YOU OR MY FUTURE, DO NOT WASTE YOUR PRECIOUS TIME!

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Don Brumley
, US
Jan 18, 2019 10:28 am EST

How many $5.00 do they need to see if I have won the $12, 000, 000.00, I sent one in now I waiting for the results !

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Cliffa Gaddis
, US
Jan 15, 2019 1:45 pm EST

Man, are all of you trying to tell me I'm not going to be rich in just a few weeks now? WTH? I just sent my letter off today for my free 55 page book. I thought I was the special one. I'm so depressed. Now I have nothing to look forward to. Thanks guys :0(

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andrew delano
, US
Jan 15, 2019 12:06 pm EST

flattery will get you somewhere. i have had postal scams over and over all through the years. each time there is a hook of some kind that somehow even if only for a few minutes takes you for a little ride of sorts... i got a letter from "Tom" too, i guess back in the fall. the junk mail ended up in a pile. i was going through a clean up phase and came across the semi fancy first class envelope with the striped border, slightly oversize, multipage, printed on both sides. the flattery was amusing cause it describes me as special, it was creepy too, because, it said they knew a lot about me and had been keeping an eye on me. anyway its past the deadline. but the flattery was nice even though i don't deserve it. these people should rot from inside but live to grow old and die all alone.

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Howyoudoingyall
, US
Jan 14, 2019 11:52 pm EST
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Ha this is just about the worst and hilarious form of scam I’ve ever received in the mail. You have to had to them they went the extra effort in the mailing proceeds but when you think about how many people fall for this presentation of bantor...it probably pays for the mailings leaving a nice profit for them. Good luck with you’re secret society hope y’all have fun times together as mentioned in the letter. Some stand in ahhh...but they’re as normal as you and me - ok then seems legit- famous rich leaders of the world don’t do a mailing...Hmmmm Maybe they meet here for their meetings - if so I’m in they have the best spicy fish soup anywhere in the US promise

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Howyoudoingyall
, US
Jan 15, 2019 12:02 am EST
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Wow I’d like to edit my post my phone did weird things and now have wrong words and is a mess. So much for the simplest thing called the edit

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Pamela Capria
, US
Jan 14, 2019 7:04 pm EST

I got mine today (January 14th, 2019) I also believe it to be a scam. I'm so glad I checked online first.

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Josh McCrary
, US
Dec 18, 2018 9:03 pm EST

I got the same letter in the mail from today from Tom. Haven’t checked the mail in a few days, so it says I have to call by this Friday, or I’ll miss the boat.

Guess I better swim then. I’m not sending those scamming [censored] nozzles a penny. People, I’m a retired cop, this reeks of scam. Save your money. If you’re down on your luck, this isn’t the answer.

Same address:

Invitation Processing
3490 South 4400 West #70629
West Valley City, UT [protected]

Don’t fall for the BS.

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crustyghump
, US
Oct 16, 2018 9:59 pm EDT

I just got that very same letter in the mail today (16 October 2018) from: Invitation Processing
3490 South 4400 West #70629
West Valley City, UT [protected]
By the time i was done reading it, i was going to find a pond and see if i could walk on water.
This same thing happened about 4 years ago. I got the initial booklet and it was "talking in circles" and saying little to nothing. I stopped there. They got me for the price of a stamp and that was it .

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Donald Harley
, US
Jan 05, 2016 5:41 pm EST

I got the same letter, except i sent it back, telling them its a scam and some choice other words

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Concerned12344
Thousand Oaks, US
Jun 23, 2015 4:36 pm EDT

My mother got this letter and she lived in a care home. I know she did not send money because she didn't have much income. But for those that got stuck in paying, it's sad. There has to be a way to file a complaint with the FBI. They deal with fraud. Call them with the info you have and hopefully they can help.

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G. Ash
Sausalito, US
Jul 14, 2014 3:36 pm EDT

I, too, would love to know: has ANYONE RECEIVED the 1200 page book from this Secret Society?

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Already rich, in love, and famous
orland, US
May 29, 2014 10:12 am EDT
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Has anyone actually received the 1200 page book from this Secret Society?