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This is a pyramid scheme! I wasted almost three hours of my life listening to a load! Not to mention, this was a "friend" of my sisters! Why would I pay $2200 for discounts? Where would the discount be? What REALLY got me was when the guy said, "Don't tell your husband about it. Nothing. He will make an opinion based on what you say, not me." and, "We need to get this thing going NOW!" Why the urgency? I'm not shopping today, so I'm not concerned with the discount right now. OH, I see, it's because someone else will get in "over" me and take my potential earnings. Whatever! Don't be fooled by this scam! In the '80's there were many pyramid schemes that were facing criminal charges. No thanks, I'm nit gonna rush in and pay to be investigated later!
The complaint has been investigated and resolved to the customer’s satisfaction.
My husband and I joined Team National March, 2016. It is a very easy concept but only for certain people. We were ready to run with it but the person whom signed us up turned out to be a ego tripped deputy. I have a steady full time job so it was going to be my husband who worked Team National as he is in construction and would have a better chance regarding time to work it. We both agreed to this so that he could walk away from his job first as he was getting older and it was getting harder for him to continue. (I will bypass some due to being very lengthy) but we advised him that we would work it on a part time basis as we have a busy life with our jobs and family. This guy would not stop calling, texting, etc. I noticed my husband's attitude starting to change to where he was becoming depressed. One night, after a meeting, we had some people interested which brought my husband's attitude up. This [censored] of a deputy called and I noticed my husband's demeanor change. I had it placed on speaker so that I could hear what he was saying. Everything was negative, calling my husband a failure, that he was going to fail, and much much more. I kept mouthing to my husband to please let me say something but he wanted me to hear the whole thing. When we got off of the phone I told him that I never knew him to let someone speak to him like that. He normally tears into anyone like that. The next day he did. He went off so bad that we thought maybe corporate or upline had a talk with this guy as he started being very nice and helpful. So, we gave him another chance after it was sat aside for a couple of months. We did save our money back as since we were Team National members we bought a new car which the dealer sold it for $300 under invoice which was $6800 off not counting what we put down on it. We have also saved through the shopping about $50 per month and have made a little money with them as well. Well, they [censored] started doing his tricks again. Again amongst things in between that I found out, my cousin called from Arkansas and asked me about the company. Apparently, the [censored] phished through my facebook with what was apparently making it look like an add for needing to hire for a cruise liner. She called about the job and that is when he went through the pitch with her. She said he advised her that we knew all about it and were ok with it. He never mention anything about her to us. I asked her how did he set up the meeting and she advised through instant messaging and then got her phone number. The only reason she met with him was that he threw us in the conversation so she trusted that. I about lost it. This was out of my husband's hands as this was my family. Again, much more to tell about this, I went off on this guy and reported it to corporate on the ethics part of it. It was a 3 or 4 page report. I listed everything which was a lot more than what I listed here. We laid it down for a few more months just to get our thoughts together and decided that we were not going to spend that much money and just let it sit. We picked it up and won the free cruise and are moving with it. I have to say we are doing without this idiot anywhere near us. Us and our family and whomever signs up with us we all block him, which he had 3 facebook pages, and his wife since we know he would go through hers as well. This is real people. This is not a pyramid as a pyramid has 3 corners and as you keep adding to a pyramid only the people at top make the money. Team National is unlimited depth which it counts for everyone equally above. We have decided, this is how we are doing it as well, that we consider the people with us are a team and we all help each other in our team. Our team all work together even if it is to help one another and it is working great for all of us. I never thought my husband would be the one to pick up on something like this but I am glad he did. You will have 1 bad person out of a 100 and we did get that one person. We have filed our complaint and he is out of our life. He is in our upline but only on 1 side. It has been so pleasant working with everyone else. The great people we have met is amazing. You will have people out there whom are greedy and only out for themselves, the [censored], but 99% of the people are there to help you with whatever you need. The earnings are huge. I am also a member of Ebates and if I see the return is higher with them, then I will use them, but you cannot earn a residual income with them. The earnings are huge and the savings are real. As I have stated, we have had our issues for the past year but we are working through those and our team is one big family. Would love to talk about it if you would like more information. Email: lisaburney6@yahoo.com
Team National is total scam. This poster even going as far as breaking the this sites rule by soliciting the scam. There are NO savings to be had.
Please answer some of the below questions and comments (no one ever has!):
* If the deals are so fantastic why cant anyone see them or try them before they join?
* Team National touts their affiliation with big retailers as a partnership. This is a stretch. The reality is ANYONE can sign up to do affiliate marketing with almost any online company.
* Per Team Nationals own Federal filings - 94% of associates earned less than $1300 in GROSS revenue in 2015.
* Why the "high pressure" technique to sign up folks? If its so great who cares if they think on this opportunity for a few weeks?
* Is the money made by recruiting?
* Ask the folks pitching this to you to see at least 2 years of tax returns that pertain to their Team National business.
* Does Team National encourage attending meetings and conventions, buying more motivational material?
* Do you have uplines, downlines, sideways lines, and other crazy ways to explain the recruiting income?
* Only 0.03% of associates made a GROSS revenue of over $70, 000 in 2015.
* Have your recruiter explain the whole business and concept in one sentence.
* Team National has been sued by the Federal Government at least once in regards to the business practices.
* Do they tout things like A+ BBB rating and member of the DSA? (These are red herrings as any business maintains an A+ rating just by answering all complaints. The DSA is a trade group for MLM's)
* Do the "deals" seem to be vague? Do they highlight things like furniture and jewelry (very hard to get apples to apples comparisons)?
* Why is Team National debated on almost all scam watch websites?
* Why do Team National followers scream "its not a pyramid scheme"
* Seem like lots of fake posting on the web by Team National shills making vague blankets statements about how much they save and earn?
* So, you need to pay them big bucks to save big bucks? Does that really make sense to you?
* Do you have other fees such as website, shipping charges, etc..
* Be sure to have the folks pitching this to you give factual hard evidence of all savings and commission plans. No excuses.
* Does Team National offer a fair and reasonable cancellation time of lets say 30 or 60 days?
Many people pay a membership fee to shop on Amazon Prime, Sam's Club, Costco...why not pay a membership fee to shop in over 250 places? The fee also includes your kids, grandkids grandparents, and parents. Over a lifetime of all of those shopping, it will save you much more than Amazon's $99/year. How is that a bad deal? Including diapers and formula...everything else. Who wants to find coupon's for everything in your life? Why not TN for all of your shopping needs?
With Amazon I get a real value for my money $99. I get videos, music, free 2 day shipping, plus many other services and a top flight customer service department. I can easily cancel anytime.
What to a I get with Team National for $2399? I get a no cancellation, pressure to recruit friends and family, I get "access" to 250 places? This access is called affiliate marketing by the way and is offered for FREE by these companies to anyone that wants to drive web traffic to them. TN gets NO special pricing from any retail entity that we have been able to follow up on.
To compare scammy Team National to real businesses like Amazon and Sams Club is foolish and misleading. There is a reason TN is sold by high pressure to con folks into this old MLM buyers club.
Scammy MLM AVOID, keep your money and friends. Be happy, join Amazon Prime for a hundred buck!
Not a Pyramid Scheme, Pyramid Schemes are illegal and Team National has been around since 1997 its a Billion Dollar Company who just lets their members reap massive benefits for recruiting instead of paying for advertising.. To put this in prespective you do not have to do the business side at all... That is a perk to being a member if you happen to share you can get paid after awhile or run with it and make lots of money... A pyramid Scheme you have to work the business which is not giving people anything but a loss of money... Team National is a Benefit Package and if you choose not to use it then that is on you.. Just like if you buy a Sams Club or Gym Membership and never use it then you are wasting your money... It does cost $2195 one time fee for 5 Generations of your family use making or saving money. I bought in for $2195 and I have 10 people using that $2195 membership. Everyone of them is saving over $200 a year on their cellphones that is $2000 for the year right there, , , , I have saved over $13000 in a years time...My daughter saved $3700 on her car she got it at Cost.. My mother saves 35% on her contacts and $3000 on her health insurance. My other son saved 35% using Sears Commercial on his paint to repaint his house everyone is using this membership and business...I have won 2 Cruises FREE for Two that paid for my membership and you can win 2 of these a year in the business side... If there wasn't a business side I would still love Team National it has helped me in so many ways keep more money in my pocket.. If you buy a membership for a Dollar and dont use it then you have wasted a dollar.. But if you use it can multiply a million times over ..I Love Team National because I actually use Team National...Try it don't waste it...Only difference in this and Sams Club you get much bigger savings on bigger services and Items it all adds up quicker than you think...
Thanks for yet another one time only shill post telling about the savings, free cruises, ponies and lollipops all because TN is the bestest thing ever! Please Gina. Team National is debated on every scam site there is. Why is that? Because its a scammy MLM/pyramid scheme.
Please answer some of the below questions and comments:
* If the deals are so fantastic why cant anyone see them or try them before they join?
* Team National touts their affiliation with big retailers as a partnership. This is a stretch. The reality is ANYONE can sign up to do affiliate marketing with almost any online company.
* Per Team Nationals own Federal filings - 94% of associates earned less than $1300 in GROSS revenue in 2015.
* Why the "high pressure" technique to sign up folks? If its so great who cares if they think on this opportunity for a few weeks?
* Is the money made by recruiting?
* Ask the folks pitching this to you to see at least 2 years of tax returns that pertain to their Team National business.
* Does Team National encourage attending meetings and conventions, buying more motivational material?
* Do you have uplines, downlines, sideways lines, and other crazy ways to explain the recruiting income?
* Only 0.03% of associates made a GROSS revenue of over $70, 000 in 2015.
* Have your recruiter explain the whole business and concept in one sentence.
* Team National has been sued by the Federal Government at least once in regards to the business practices.
* Do they tout things like A+ BBB rating and member of the DSA? (These are red herrings as any business maintains an A+ rating just by answering all complaints. The DSA is a trade group for MLM's)
* Do the "deals" seem to be vague? Do they highlight things like furniture and jewelry (very hard to get apples to apples comparisons)?
* Why is Team National debated on almost all scam watch websites?
* Why do Team National followers scream "its not a pyramid scheme"
* Seem like lots of fake posting on the web by Team National shills making vague blankets statements about how much they save and earn?
* So, you need to pay them big bucks to save big bucks? Does that really make sense to you?
* Do you have other fees such as website, shipping charges, etc..
* Be sure to have the folks pitching this to you give factual hard evidence of all savings and commission plans. No excuses.
* Does Team National offer a fair and reasonable cancellation plan like say 30 days or more?
Of course Team National is a scam. There are NO real savings. The funniest part is the affiliate savings with big name companies. Folks, those are available to ANYONE. Macy's doesn't care if you are with TN or not. If you drive web traffic to them they will pay a very small commission. Oyy.
Lets get to the meat of this scammy MLM. 94% of affiliates earned less than $1300 in Gross revenue in 2015. That's Gross not net by the way. The real tell is that 0.03% earned over 70k in gross revenue in 2015. That is miniscule. Even if you made the 70k, after your expenses you are probably at 40-50k gross. The reality is you will earn nothing and quite this nonsense in 2 years.
Scammy MLM buyers club, AVOID!
The rebate aspect of the team national savings that you are referring to is a very small part of the savings program. I have studied it in depth, most of the savings is in other aspects. It is vast and covers many industries and many types of savings. It would be better for you to understand the program fully before you review. I posted a review above; my husband bought the savings program and I was very cynical about it until I started using it. I've barely used it and have saved at least $700 after comparison shopping and leaving no rock unturned.
I fully understand the full concept. We had a family member involved and found the "discounts" to be minimal or non existent. This is a classic MLM and the "discount program" is the product to lure members in and then recruit, recruit, recruit.
Well, don't know what to say. I certainly won't argue someone's experience. Reality is reality. I guess it depends on buying habits. But our reality is that we have saved $750 in a few months, and I comparison shopped the heck out of the purchases I made. A lot of others have saved a lot more than I. But FYI- I'm a member of Planet Fitness, Gainesville, GA. My experience is that it's a great gym with a good staff. Been working out there for years. I recently looked at reviews for this gym. Back to back, one reviewer thought it was awesome, the next one thought is absolutely sucked. So- it's all in a person's experience and perspective.
Also--just some facts. I think people get religious about MLM, both for and against. I like to use logic and reason to assess any issue. So-Team National has 435, 000+ members. Approx 6100 members try to do anything with the sales aspect. Most just simply take advantage of group buying power. If it were just about recruiting you wouldn't see these kind of numbers. I personally have friends that are just using it for savings, and are satisfied customers.
My husband bought the savings plan 6 mo. ago. I was like, "meh..." I'm a very skeptical person. So I didn't look at it, use it, figured if it was network marketing it couldn't be a viable product. But then needed to spend money on car rentals, car repairs, and home furnishings. Well, I was WRONG about Team National. I saved a chunk of money, and I compared prices, leaving no rock unturned! I then started following a Facebook page "Savings by TN Members, " and realized the posts were not hyped or fabricated. I understand the cynicism, I was too. And as in any large organization, you have happy customers and some not so happy. Happy employees, some not so happy. Though I guarantee that most TN membership holders that actually use the website are satisfied customers. Real True savings. Now I'm looking into the money that can be made referring it. Mind blowing.
Ok...so I started dating this guy who is an IMD with Team National. He talked about it constantly so I investigated...hence me on this site. When he told me about it, I said "oh that's a pyramid scheme". He went on about his day shrugging it off. Over the months of us dating and his pursuit to get me on board I tuned in to his conference calls every Monday, listened to countless cds, watched him go to conferences and on and on. So during my "investigation" I asked for access to his Team National site because I wanted to do some shopping and to see exactly what I would be saving if I signed up. He doesn't know I have done all of this leg work trying to uncover the "catch". Here's what I have uncovered as a skeptic:
1. The ONLY portion of this that appears to be a pyramid scheme is the fact you can make money off of selling the membership to other people.
2. Team National offers TWO types of membership, one if you want to refer others (2 year or lifetime) and make money and one just for the savings portion.
3. The savings are real. I actually ordered furniture thru Macy's and he received a $49 rebate. They offer a manufaturer direct site link to order as well. The EXACT leather sectional sofa my girlfriend purchased at Ashley Furniture for $2200 was on the factory direct side for $900 and some change.
4. They have over 500 stores to shop and save on. Are you going to get boookkuuu checks from savings...probably not, but I'm buying the stuff anyways, so why not? You can also use coupons.
5. The company has a lot of perks if you are willing to refer and sell the membership.
6. This seems to be a family oriented company where everyone works together.
7. There is a lot of money that can be made, but it is a "sales" business. You would be selling "savings".
8. The Healthcare savings alone are worth the membership.
9. Theyou offer car amd home insurance savings through Met Life
10. Example of stores included in the marketplace for rebates are Walmart, Target, New York & Company, Belk, Macy's, Dollar General, Best Buy, Forever 21..these are just a few.
My unbiased opinion:
If you want to recoup the money spent on your lifetime membership, you will most likely have to work the business but it will be worth the savings in the long run. This is a great membership for a small business owner not only for the savings but Team National places your company on their site FOR FREE. The members try shop in network from what I can tell. FREE ADVERTISING, it pays for itself, no brainer. If you decide to work the business, the company offers tons of support IN PERSON. In the end I feel Team National should offer a different approach because initially one would think this is a pyramid, as did I. However, after hours on end listening and researching, my opinion changed. You can't fully explain that in a 30 minute meeting wit h a Team National rep trying to sell you a membership. Do your own research, most people expect a get rich quick and TN is quick to say, this is a BUSINESS THAT TAKES WORK! Or, they had a bad rep who didn't explain it's entirety. This is my unbiased opinion because I AM NOT a member of Team National because I am not good with talking to people, it's just not me. Like I said before, this is a sales job!
What a load of poopy poop poop. The usual one time post by a TN shill. Answer these questions if they are so legit:
* If the deals are so fantastic why cant anyone see them or try them before they join?
* Team National touts their affiliation with big retailers as a partnership. This is BS. The reality is ANYONE can sign up to do affiliate marketing with almost any online company.
* Per Team Nationals own Federal filings - 94% of associates earned less than $1400 in GROSS revenue in 2015.
* Why the "high pressure" technique to sign up folks? If its so great who cares if they think on this opportunity for a few weeks?
* Is the money made by recruiting?
* Ask the folks pitching this to you to see at least 2 years of tax returns that pertain to their Team National business.
* Does Team National encourage attending meetings and conventions, buying more motivational material?
* Do you have uplines, downlines, sideways lines, and other crazy ways to explain the recruiting income?
* Only 0.03% of associates made a GROSS revenue of over $70, 000 in 2015. (That is less than 1/3 of 1% folks)
* Have your recruiter explain the whole business and concept in one sentence.
* Team National has been sued by the Federal Government at least once in regards to the business practices.
* Do they tout things like A+ BBB rating and member of the DSA? (These are red herrings as any business maintains an A+ rating just by answering all complaints. The DSA is a trade group for MLM's)
* Do the "deals" seem to be vague? Do they highlight things like furniture and jewelry (very hard to get apples to apples comparisons)?
* Why is Team National debated on almost all scam watch websites?
* Why do Team National followers scream "its not a pyramid scheme"
* Seem like lots of fake posting on the web by Team National shills making vague blankets statements about how much they save and earn?
* So, you need to pay them big bucks to save big bucks? Does that really make sense to you?
* Do you have other fees such as website, shipping charges, etc..
* Be sure to have the folks pitching this to you give factual hard evidence of all savings and commission plans. No excuses.
* is there a reasonable cancellation date of say 30-60 days?
Wow I am in team national and let's just say it has been totally awesome for me and my family. A lifetime of savings has started for my parents, myself and my children. I am working the business and tn made it possible for me to sell my restaurant. I am saving money on vehicle insurance, parents have saved thousands on a vehicle. And children are saving on everyday purchases.
Now I do have people on my team that signed on but have yet to do anything with it savings or earnings. But that is their choice maybe they joined just because, but that is not TNs fault they choose not to use what they have their hands on. The only way you loose in TN IS TO QUIT ITS A PERSONAL CHOICE NO TEAM NATIONALS FAULT. SO NO IT IS NOT A SCHEME. IT'S MORE LIKE AN ALL AMERICAN CO-OP JUST LIKE THE FARMERS CO-OP.
If you believe that Team National is a scam then by the same criteria so is Sam's Club or any other membership in which you get discounts on products. If you do not use a Sam's Club membership who's fault is it that you did not save money Sams or your own? The membership and marketing are completely separate entities. You do NOT have to sell a membership in order to save or utilize your Team National membership. The generations of people covered in a lifetime package makes the $2200 an amazing deal. My family have been members for 7months and have already saved in excess of $1000 on everyday items shopping at the same stores we have always visited. Had we been members a month earlier we would have saved 1500 on our Ashley sectional. Bottom line is if you are a member and are not saving money then you are not using the membership to your advantage and that is no ones fault but your own.
In reference to the sales portion, if you get a good deal in a product it is human nature to want to tell your friends. However no retail store has ever paid me a dime to do that however Team National has paid me several thousand dollars to do the exact same thing.
For those who joined and months later wanted a refund, I ask you to go to Sams Club or anywhere else for that matter and ask the same.
You can not just sit on your couch and think you are going to get paid! It's a simple concept-share this awesome company with people, use the system! We have won our first cruise; earned checks, and saved money, but the strangest thing is this company has the most caring group of people in it! It's been a blessing to my family! This company has taught us so much! I have so much more self confidence!
I have saved over $11000 (eleven THOUSAND) with this membership. No respectable company would lock arms with a business if they even remotely thought that is was a fraud. Coldwell Banker, Att, Sprint, Sears, Metlife, and many other HUGE names have locked arms with Team NATIONAL to provide savings to the Americans. My husband and I both tried to talk furniture stores and car dealerships down to what TN discount offers to no avail. It doesn't happen! If you want to save a little, join ebates or big crumbs, no biggie! But if you want DEEP discounts, go TN! Team National has an A+ with the BBB, member of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, and the CEO heads the ethics committee on the DSA. I chose to share this concept with others and have retired doing so. Now, if Google is your "go-to" for research, then you have no business posting a complaint. REAL complaints go to BBB, not google. FYI, pyramid schemes have been illegal for almost 40 years! They don't exist but maybe months at a time without being shut down. Team National is celebrating 20 (TWENTY) years (YEARS) in 2017! Do REAL research. Think for yourself instead of being swayed by others.
I call BS. You haven't saved anything. Most likely a newbie shilling for Team National.
I have been a member for 6 months. I am saving and earning. Only hard work reflects how much money you make, as with anything you do. I believe that maybe you just don't understand completely yet. That mindset is typical of someone that has been burned before on true scams, and totally understandable. I hope that your up line or a team member will take the time to help you understand the numbers. You can truly enjoy an early retirement and have much more time to spend with your family if you just keep looking at it til it clicks with you. You owe it to yourself. And this offer that you have been given comes by invitation only. You are blessed and don't know it! Wish you all the best!
My husband and I decided not the join up, and our friend who invited us has definitely moved on from the "no" and not pestered us, which we appreciate. He is so busy recruiting that we hardly ever see him anymore, and we have come to call them "assimilation" meetings (reference to the Borg in Star Trek, for folks that are not a geeky as me!). He is making money and happy, but a couple of other friends that signed up for the 2 year membership a few months ago when it was offered to us will not extend it. They have found the savings minimal unless you shop online ALOT and buy big ticket items. They have also found buying through the TN website a hassle to navigate and have pretty much given up using it. The only positive thing I have heard is about the savings on the data plan for your phone. As I have said before, if you want to try the TN savings plan, go in for the $800 plan and see how useful it is to your purchasing lifestyle before you drop the big bucks for the 'lifetime' membership. TN is not for everyone!
I really am beginning to see the "cult like" attitude here. All of the Team National followers are bashing anyone who doesn't believe in their nonsense. Luckily, the person trying to recruit me showed me the discount page prior to me signing up. The most you save is 10%. Most places are 1-5%. Not worth it to me. I feel bad for those who actually paid for this membership. Kuddos to those of you recruiting people and making money. I'd rather sit here at my cushy little desk and rake in the dough along with healthcare and a nice 401k matching program.
Hello Sonny07,
This is for Sonny07. I joined Team National about 4 months ago. I have to admit I am not convinced it is not a questionable business. It seems the savings are minimal at best. I called the insurance broker and did not feel their offer was helpful in saving me any money on home/auto insurance. I have used the online buying from Wal-mart, which I had to learn since this is not my usual way to shop and feel the "savings" are minute. I have also run into several hassles along the way. I have had one person sign up and one planning to sign up but I have not really pushed this company because I am very skeptical about the savings. I know the money is there to be made but feel there is something that is just not quite "above board" in selling a savings membership that has not saved me anything to speak of. I am also more than willing to reimburse the one person their membership cost if they tell me they feel like they have been ripped off. I don't want to be "that" kind of person, or so called friend. I really, really, really want to believe in this company. Please help me.
Elspeth M:
I just read your response and found it very appealing and full of considerate thought. I recently joined TN at the $800, 2 year level. I too am very skeptical about selling this membership to other people. I want to make sure it is a good deal before I start approaching people who trust me about possibly buying in to this service.
Would you mind sharing what your final decision was on joining TN and how you feel about that decision now? Thanks
I am doing some research on a comapny from South Florida called Team National
www.bign.com Can anyone spare some insight on this business?
Thanks for your questions amaybe! My husband and I have also recently been to a meeting and are considering this opportunity with TN. I will check back and see if anyone provides answers to your specific questions, because I have some of the same ones. One thing that was pointed out at the meeting I attended, because I asked the question specifically, was that if you buy the $795 (actually $894, when you include cost for your "website") for the 2 year membership to "try it out", at any time during that 2 years you can decide to "upgrade" to the lifetime membership and just pay the difference. We cannot easily afford $800, much less $2200, so this is the only way we would consider joining to see if we saved or not on "things we would be buying anyway". A lot of the discussions on this site have revolved around furniture savings examples and they make me very wary. I worked in the furniture sales industry for 16 years and know how MSRP mark-ups work in that industry. If you get access to viewing a TN website from your friend that is offering you the opportunity to join, do yourself a favor and don't just compare your "savings" to the same product on another website like Amazon. Instead, also see if the same product is available in a "brick and mortar" store in your local area and go see what their everyday price is. I'll bet in a lot of cases, the local sales price will be similar, with no shipping, an easy return policy, and the chance of financing it at 0 interest for 3-5 years instead of putting it on a credit card when purchasing online. MSRP prices are always a 200-400% mark-up and knowing that most of these website "savings" are discounted from MSRP, not an everyday sales price tells me a lot. People in TN may have the same perceived savings as shoppers in our local furniture store when the MSRP price is clearly listed on the price tag of an item as well as the everyday sales price. That MSRP $2000 sofa that you get at a price of $1195 is a great deal! I'm sure the car savings people list are also off of MSRP. That's the main way they can claim to save $[protected] on furniture purchases and $4000-10, 000 on car purchases off of the TN site. My husband and I are still on the fence about this and are planning to investigate it as much as possible to make an educated decision. From all I have read so far, my best advice is READ everything in the contract and make sure you understand all that is required of you, and have all of the costs explained before you sign anything. Also, you may not get your "preview/trial packet" to try this company out before your 3 day opt-out expires, so you better be sure it's the deal for you or you may not be able to get your money back! Do your research, ask a lot of questions, and don't get talked into a quick decision to "reserve your spot in a downline/upline"! That's my best advice...
We've been approached about this. Here are my concerns. I'd love it if you have information for me, so I can make an educated decision. The idea of 'having faith' in the company, which is one of the responses I've heard, isn't going to work for me.
1) I don't want to recruit. Really, I don't want to. I don't like the feeling of looking at my 'network' as potential opportunities. I've worked MLM before, and I quit because of this. So, if I sign on for the savings, and my up-line wants to keep recruiting, how does that mess them up, when my side dead-ends?
2) Do they sell a large selection of items. I see what you've shown in this discussion, but what if I don't want a brown Verona sectional. What if I'm looking for a particular chair type, for instance. Are the savings similar to Costco, where they have specific items at super good deals, and at some point they might have the one you want, maybe, if you wait long enough?
3) Costco sells brands that are available elsewhere, and they sell them discounted. But they are also made strictly for Costco, at a lower cost and therefore at a lower quality. What is great about Costco, is they will take anything back. So if you get unlucky about the quality of an item and it breaks, you are covered. Does Team National back up their items, with a good return policy?
4) Is the manufacturer building these items strictly for TN at a lower price?
5) The way I'm reading the membership, TN is advertising Lowe's, for instance, as a partner. The TN member would log on to the TN site (not Lowe's website), to order the Lowe's products, and you get the discounted price. In this case the member gets a discount, NOT commission or points, correct?
6) Is it a FULL catalog of the store's products, or just some of the products? Are they actually coming from Lowe's? (Just using them as an example) Or am I misunderstanding that?
7) I understand there is an online store front, Bign or something. From that, the member would get points and rebates, along with being able to purchase 'discounted items'. Household items for example. Before we purchase the 'savings membership' I'd like to sit and take a look at the actual online stores, and items, etc. Will my friend be allowed to let me sit in on her purchases for a bit, to understand and see the prices, before I buy a membership?
8) I read that there is no actual advertisement allowed, and TN members can't give links to the discounts in the stores (which is why you had to screen shot it). Are you allowed to put on your social media that you belong to TN and a list of discounted items you've gotten, and ask for sign-ups?
Thanks for the info.
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There are NO savings, that is why you cant see them before you join. They DONT partner with Lowes or anyone else. They us "affiliate marketing" which you can do on your own without Team National.
Recruiting is what this scam is all about.
TEAM NATIONAL IS NOT A PYRAMID SCHEME, GET RICH QUICK SCHEME OR A SCHEME OF ANY KIND FOR THAT MATTER. I'm reading all these complaints and I have to wonder just how many of these complaints are from people who really don't get it. Team National is not a MLM (Multi-level marketing) company to begin with. Any one of you writing about Team National in a negative light has obviously not gotten the right information about this company.
To those who state there is no savings with this company, it is again very obvious you know not what you speak of or clearly did not understand. I could list the savings available through this company but I won't waste the readers time.
It just really bothers me tremendously that Team National is being pitched as a bad company, because it is all but that!
To sum up what I am trying to convey; if anyone speaks to you about seeing an overview of what this company has to offer, please do that. It is probably the one company with the most heart I've seen.
Are you insane? Even Team national admits that it is a MLM. Its all scheme all the time!
@boo241,
"this is just trying to sell an idea"
-That's kinda vague because everything is an idea. Team National also happens to be a service... Last I Ichecked people regularly use and pay for many different services. It's the same concept of any other discount membership just on a bigger scale than most.
"I provided a list of 10 everyday items, smaller ticket items and TN could only beat the prices on 2 items and not by much"
-This statement leads me to believe you know nothing of the company... Team Nationals factory direct savings is on bigger ticket items. Look at my screen shot examples for more info on the savings. So far nobody was able to find any cheaper examples of my savings examples.
There are NO savings to be had at Team national. Its a scammy MLM all about recruiting,
I've had so called friends that I haven't seen in years recently contacted me regarding TN and its opportunity to save money and make money and because we were on a short list of friends that they wanted to get us in on the ground level because we are such good friends, please! From the research I have done TN is not a pyramid scheme but you are selling an "idea" and it's more of a moral and ethics issue to me.I have been in sales for 35 years and I'm damn good at it if I'm selling an actual tangible product but this is just trying to sell an idea.The so called friend was saying we could save thousands on new vehicles, new furniture, new big ticket items, how often do you buy a new car or refurbish your house etc..?I provided a list of 10 everyday items, smaller ticket items and TN could only beat the prices on 2 items and not by much.Network marketing is not for everyone and the fact is that only about 3% can do it. So save your money or give to your kids and maybe they will become wealthy and take care of you later in life, the odds of that are much greater for that to happen than you getting rich from selling TN memberships. Just my opinion for what it's worth!
WOW, I am looking at Team National. Never heard of it before, so am doing some research and ran across this site. Don't know who you people are on here, but how can you spend so much time berating ONE Company? Looks like a personal vendetta of some sort here? Rodney Tames
have you tried multiple Direct Marketing Companies and gotten screwed over? I have LOOKED at ALOT of them, and have never signed up,
but have been to 2 presentations for this Company (TN) and it looks to be pretty "upfront" and black and white, as to what you invest, and what you do, do not have to do, in this business model. I have NOT been Pressured in any way, I have just had the Business patiently, presented to me three times now, (as it takes me awhile to make decisions about where my money goes). I have been in Real Estate for 29 years, and am looking for a home business I can do in my "retirement". With Team National, it looks like I can pay my One Time fee for my lifetime $2, 195, plus $120 a year to have my TN Website, that keeps track of EVERYTHING in my business, which is USER-FRIENDLY! (Which I cannot say about the NEW MLS System I just got tossed into in my Real Estate Business). I think that I can use some of the discounts for my business, my home utilities, my gas, home furnishings etc. Will take some time to figure out just how much of a benefit it can be. You can either purchase the membership for the discounts Only, (which pretty much EVERYONE in your family can use too, plus 5 of your employees, if you own your own business). OR you can use all the Buying discounts AND do the business side of it, which is Selling Memberships. What is so TERRIBLE about selling Memberships? (Kinda wish I had bought this membership when I was younger, for that ONE-time fee, would have gotten more "mileage" out of it on the discounts :) I'm from a mid-sized town in Minnesota, have a good career in Real Estate, and Team National looks pretty interesting to me. Trying to do my do-diligence:
Now Rodney, I have read all the bad things you have to say. So I want to know, have you ever been a Member of Team National? Did you WORK the business side of it? Just curious, as to where your judgement of this Company is coming from, did you feel someone was trying to Trick you into joining this Company? I honestly want to know if it is Team National in particular, or if you have been scammed over the years by MLS companies, that lost you money.
Sonny07, are You a member of Team National? And, if you are, how long have you been a member?
If so, are you just a member for the discounts, or are also doing the Business side of it?
Thank you both for your time
Sincerely,
Barbara
This is a scammy MLM and you know it. There NO savings. Its all about recruiting the next sucker.
A legit company! Member of the BBB of South Florida and Direct Selling Association... Comp plan is the BEST I have ever seen!
Being a member of a BBB means nothing. The BBB is a private organization supported by its paying members. Members keep an A+ rating by responding to all complaints. So, any type of response guarantees an A+ rating. The better way to view a BBB account is the number of complaints and what do they pertain to.
It's an uninformed opinion not based in any fact. The fact is that when she was told not to tell her husband she would inevitably state it wrong which is why you have someone who is informed about what is offered explain it to them.
She was told not to tell her husband because odds are he would thinks its a pyramid scheme!
I think the whole points is being missed... Team National brings the savings to you with guaranteed commission! $2195 is a one time in your life payment that saves and makes YOU AND 6 GENERATIONS OF YOUR FAMILY money for the rest of your life? I am just a 31 year old guy with a GED and four kids who lives in Kentucky... What could could I possibly have to know though😏
I have been in Team National since Sept. I have already saved on my cell and insurance. To the tune of 1500 a year this year and subsequent years. I also have received a few checks from shopping. We joined mostly for the savings. We will not only get our money back in 18 months but that 19th month Team National will be saving us an additional 125 a month. That's like being paid 125 a month. I save tons of time shopping online and enjoy not having to stand in line at the check out. I love instore pickup.
My dad always told us, "You can't argue with a fool!" I've been in TN for 5 months...we have saved MORE than our lifetime membership fee...Made several thousand dollars AND over $600.00 in commissions alone...IF, this is a PYRAMID SCHEME...SIGN ME UP AGAIN!
This is definitely bogus and basically a legal pyramid scheme. High pressure sales tactics and urgency doesn't have any affect on the decision I made to pass on this bogus investment. I sell timeshare for a living!
I went to a "host" meeting yesterday. It was interesting to say the least. You could look across the room and see who was going to be caught. The house wife that does all the shopping looking at the great discounts(which they say are there but can't see), the man saying heck I know 8 people out of 50 I can sign up... 2200 out the door. Selling dreams.
My problem is this they won't let you look at their website for the discounts before you sign up. Huge flag! Second its a privately owned company so you can't see how they generate revenue. Third I need to look at the incentive structure which is confusing but... I am going out on a limb here... The only way it's sustainable is if you sign more people up.
The reason you cant see the website ahead of joining is because its hard to navigate and there really aren't savings. I mean if there were BIG BIG savings wouldn't they be showing them off?
The whole deal is the recruiting and getting the $2200. Its only sustainable if you can sign up 20+ active participants per year. Sounds like a pyramid scheme hey?
AVOID!
It is a scheme, trust me I got suckered and lied to by Russell Terry and Brad Barton
Cult, scam vague with answers, calling people lazy, claim Christian and all around d rude! And this conclusion within. 1 hrs of b.s.! I will not con friends and family! I have morals u like team national!
Let me tell you a little about Team National. This is definitely not a Pyramid Scam . You don't sell this product to people, you refer it. Explain to these people that might be interested in the savings they can receive in different areas of their purchases. There are so many companies that are a part of Team National. Best Buy, Staples, Tiger Direct to name a few. There are many more. You have to take a look at the list of companies involved with Team National to see the mass amount.. Being a member with a website that's offered by Team National for $75.00 a year you have links to all these companies on your own personalized website. You want to make a purchase of an item ? Go to your website and find the company's link and it will take you to their website. You make a purchase or more and you'll get a percentage commission return from that purchase. It's all laid out to what the percentages are that each company involved will give you back as a commission per purchase . You get a refund check sent to you when you hit a certain level of commission . It's not cost efficient for Team National to send you out a $2.00 check every time you make a purchase. Lets say that when you hit $50.00 in commission savings then Team National will send you a check to your home address on the membership account You can actually set the limit to be higher if you want. If you don't want them to send a check out at $50.00 then you can set it to be sent out when you reach $100 or more. It's all accumulated from the different stores you shop at from the list of companies. There are a lot. Trust me.
Team National members also have access to many Factory Direct outlets. This gives the members major discounts on merchandise to everything from furniture, spas, pool tables, cars, custom motorcycles, trailers, and more. Team National also has a Jewelry and Diamond broker involved with them. Markup on jewelry in retail is almost 300-400%. This is satisfaction guaranteed quality merchandise and it's fantastic quality. My stepfather owns a jewelry store and is a member. He inspected the quality of the merchandise displayed at one of Team National's conventions. Many companies involved with Team National will have displays at the conventions. Also, The conventions announce the new companies that have joined the crew. He brought his jeweler's loop with him as he always does and was very impressed with the quality. There are always new companies becoming a part of Team National.
That explains just some of the savings areas that a person can benefit from being a member. Sure, There's a family package that you can get for $2200. This allows everyone in the family to have access to these savings, We're talking everyone from the children and their children and so forth to the in-laws.. They can save on the same items you do. Also, they can shop off your website and you get the commissions. They save and you also benefit from it. Ex: If you was to purchase a family package and put it under your 94 year old Grandmothers name. Everyone down the bloodline has access to use that Team National account for the savings. If everyone in that bloodline used Grandmother's website to make their everyday item purchases then Grandma's going to be a very happy camper from the commissions she's making
There's a singles package for $750 that's good for 2 years. The family package is infinite as long as Team National is still in business, and trust me they aren't going anywhere soon. Companies are coming to Team National and wanting to be a part of it. Team National isn't out seeking these companies. It's all about group buying power and we have it with our members. I'm a member as if you couldn't tell.
I'd get into the earning portions of Team National and explain that area to you, but I'll leave that up to you. If you're ever interested you can always seek more information.
I personally just bought the Team National package for the savings portion of it. There is a earnings area of these packages also.
Feel free to look in to it in depth. It's all there for you to see. No hidden secrets. Go to www.bign.com and research it yourself. I'm happy with everything about it and that's all that matters to me.
Team National is an old school MLM pyramid scheme buyers club. The savings are not real. The money is getting folks to recruit. I love the part about the affiliates are on the right and left of you instead of above and below. That is comic gold!
In 2016 94% of affiliates made less than $1300 in GROSS revenue per TN's own Federal filing.
AVOID, old school MLM.
I've been a member for 7 years. There is no savings. What you pay 75.00 a year for anyone can get for free with Ebates.com
I joined TN on 6/25/15 and enjoyed the savings of 1200.00 to date on a combination of purchases. Sorry one size doesn't fit all!
Rodney,
This is directly from ADP Senior District Manager. Team National members get Additional Savings. Next excuse.
http://fast.wistia.net/embed/iframe/r4rzcel8h1?popover=true
Oh my goodness...I am reading all the posts about how this is a scam and i wish I had never bought a membership and i can only imagine how ignorant these people must be. to say this. Here is the deal...I USE our membership, I PURCHASE items and get money sent back to me. The only, and I mean only way this does not work is if you do not buy things or if you don't know how to use the website to order. This is the only way. I book travel through Expedia, buy groceries from Walmart, buy Christmas presents from Target and Best Buy all using my membership and webpage on my Team National site. God help these people...they are too dumb to help themselves and the ones on this side of the gene pool are looking at them and can"t believe the sheer ignorance and anger...listen to the posts...anger, these people have for being short changed in the brain department.
rodney,
"Furniture is a favorite of the buyers club scam as its really a moving target and almost impossible to do a apples to apples comparison"
-Really? What other buyers club offers furniture at these discounted rates? It's clearly not impossible to do an "apples to apples comparison" when I have already done it several times with a simple price vs price comparison. It's not rocket science when every other outlet offers higher prices then Team National. Just because you don't like the results of the "apples to apples comparison" doesn't mean it can't be done.
**Correction $795**
Rodney,
Nobody has to pay $2195 first... As shown in multiple examples they can pay $785 first (expires in 2 years) and then save well over a thousand during the very first purchase (from the factory direct benefit) :-)
Rodney,
What exactly is "off brand furniture"? Can you give us an example "on brand furniture" just so I know what examples I'm allowed to post... According to your never-ending set of random (discussion) rules I csn only post examples that you approve of :-) Who exactly was it who made you the moderator of this discussion in the first place ?
Sonny.
That is not how it works. I have a high level of interaction with payroll services. Any fake discount from TN would apply to standard pricing. I have checked with my account rep.
AVOID Team National is a MLM/Pyramid scheme. No need to waste your money on them.
Rodney,
You're wrong about ADP. I suggest you read the attachment where it states that the team national discount also applies to current ADP customers... The team national discount is an additional discount to the rate that you're already paying.