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Seccion Amarilla has engaged in a repeated fraudulent activity of rackeeting, this time the victim being the US Goverment.
Exploiting the Ntl Flood Insurance program of FEMA they have sold advertising space to the expense of FEMA at rates between 6 to 1o times HIGHER than they charge regular clients and to lure insurance agents to participate they throw a kickback of free advertising in other sections, deal which is kept hidden from FEMA. Someone must stop their frauds, they have done this in Chicago, Tampa, St Louis, Tulsa and Chattanooga. Voice your concerns to their CEO Juan Reffreger at [protected] or their faux HR director Loren Maldonado at [protected]

Update by SAUSA Victim
Aug 20, 2009 8:53 pm EDT

MEMORANDUM

DO NOT DISTRIBUTE

PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL INTERNAL DOCUMENT

TO: All SAUSA Employees

FROM: SAUSA Legal Department

DATE: August 19, 2009

RE: Flood Insurance / FEMA Documents

________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

We anticipate that we might receive a request for information and documents related to advertising sales of Flood Insurance advertising throughout the nation as it relates to a FEMA co-op program. In anticipation of any such request, we ask that until further notice you retain all relevant documents and information, as described below. This includes e-mails, voice mails, hard copies (printed documents) and computer files, both on your own computer and on any shared drive that you use.

Please avoid discussions with customers about this matter. If anyone from outside SAUSA asks you about this matter, you should refer them to the Legal Department. Similarly, if you have any questions about this matter, please direct them to the Legal Department.

A. Relevant Documents and Information that must be preserved:

1. Documents and information related to the sale of Flood Insurance advertisements in any Directory, including, but not limited to:

a. Documents and information about particular customers for Flood Insurance advertisements in any Directory, including sales calls and other communications with customers (including e-mails with and about customers);

b. Documents and information about the design of Flood Insurance advertisements in any Directory;

c. Documents and information about policies, statements, marketing instructions or material, advertising flyers, receipts, invoices, contracts, bill of sales, emails, correspondence, and records of accounts relating to Flood Insurance advertising sales;

d. Any and all written or printed materials which provides instructions, examples or samples concerning the sale of Flood Insurance advertising through the FEMA co-op program; and

e. Price sheets, rate cards or other documents discussing any advertising prices for any Directory.

2. Documents and information relating to FEMA or Flood Insurance in any way.

In general, if in doubt, don’t throw it out.

B. E-Mail, Electronic Document, and Voicemail Retention:

All relevant e-mail must be retained. You can do this by creating an e-mail folder for all relevant messages (both sent and received) and filing them in that folder until further notice or by printing out and retaining hard copies of relevant messages. Regardless, under no circumstances shall any relevant emails or voicemails be deleted.

This hold also applies to documents in electronic form. Thus, do not delete any electronic documents, regardless of where you store them (for example, on your desktop, on a laptop, on a shared network drive, on a separate hard drive, a jump drive, or a PDA), that contain relevant information. Please also save any voicemail messages that contain relevant information.

C. Follow-Up and Questions:

You will be notified by the Legal Department if we receive a request for information and documents. At that time, you will be given further instructions on how to identify and provide documents and data responsive to the request.

If you are unsure whether you must retain a particular document, it is best to err on the side of retention. If you have any questions about this Memo, please do not hesitate to contact the Legal Department.

We appreciate your cooperation with this important matter.

Update by SAUSA Victim
Sep 06, 2009 9:51 pm EDT

Be advised that we have received notification that FEMA will not reimburse any insurance agent for contracts sold by Seccion Amarilla for its Flood Insurance co-op reimbursement program. Therefore, all contracts sold under the FEMA Flood Insurance program are being cancelled by Seccion Amarilla with a full refund to the customer. As with previous notifications, no Account Executive is permitted to sell, discuss or attempt to sell or discuss Flood Insurance advertising with insurance agents and any contracts received from the sales force will be immediately cancelled. Should we receive any contracts that are sold as Flood Insurance under the FEMA co-op program from this day forward, whether marked as such or not, the Account Executive that sold the contract, and the Management that accepted and forwarded the contract, will be subject to disciplinary action up to and including termination. There are absolutely no exceptions to this policy.

It is the policy of SAUSA that no member of the sales force (at any level) is authorized to provide notice, develop in writing or otherwise identify any sales program, incentive, opportunity or deal to the sales force or to any potential or renewal client without first requesting authorization from his/her Supervisor. The Supervisor will discuss the request with senior sales management and if the relevant Sales Vice President agrees with the request, the Sales Vice President will present it to the Corporate Office for approval.

Account Executives are not required to request approval for the following written communications to potential or renewal customers:

1. Standard sales proposals within SAUSA pricing guidelines; and

2. Standard communication regarding ad proofing.

Other than the above two (2) exceptions, no member of the sales force is authorized to email or otherwise correspond in writing to a potential or renewal customer for the purpose of marketing SAUSA or identifying any sales program, incentive, opportunity or deal without first requesting authority from the Corporate Office. Any individual that does develop and deliver such a document without authorization from the Corporate Office will be subject to disciplinary action up to and including termination. If a potential or renewal customer emails, faxes or otherwise provides written communication to an Account Executive that is not within (1) or (2) above, the Account Executive is required to forward the email to his/her Sales Manager, who is then responsible for sending the communication to the Corporate Office (with a courtesy copy to his/her Supervisor) to provide a response.

Additionally, under no circumstances should a member of the sales staff (at any level) write anything on a contract other than the yellow pages print or internet advertising being purchased under that contract. Also, should any Account Executive be found to write more than one contract on a sales deal, or to write something on a contract AFTER it is signed by a customer, that Account Executive will be terminated immediately. Only one contract is permitted per customer and under no circumstances shall anything ever be written on a contract after it is signed by a customer.

Update by SAUSA Victim
Sep 06, 2009 9:54 pm EDT

Your book is great? You really think so? Tell it to the hundred of clients that have been defrauded, tell it to FEMA who now refuses to pay any ad sold by SAUSA and its preparing legal action just like many other clients across the country.
You should be ashamed of coming online to say the book is great? what book? the one that is delivered by the the company owned by the VP of sales who enjoys double dipping? or the one you promised to print and is always late ?
Just be ashamed and bow your head, i know you just like me work here because there are no jobs anywhere else, so we have to shut up and be part of the mafia. Eventually some sense will come into our minds and we will leave.

Update by SAUSA Victim
Sep 08, 2009 11:22 am EDT

So, threats? the typical sausa way... what am i going to lose? the $200 a week you pay? I make more money working at McDonalds! LOL
I can speak, and you cannot make me shut up, or... you cannot cut my phone like telmex usually does in Mexico when someone complains.
This is America, you cant do business here like you do in your mafia style in MExico.

Update by SAUSA Victim
Sep 12, 2009 9:28 am EDT

Dissapointed works in the marketing department in Miramar, where people sits on their butts collecting a salary to socialize in their own little world. Maria is pointing only two lawyers of the many customers who have been done wrong by Seccion Amarilla.
You are thug, with threats left and right. You are trying to silence a truth that is so obvious... with insults and ridicule. You should be ashamed of yourself, why dont you tell the truth about FEMA, or about the thousands of dollars in fake contracts in South Florida, the billing and art errors...listen anyone can make errors, i give you that, but when they become a pattern and a business practice thats called RACKETEERING. We are not just disgruntled employees, we are speaking the same things that most customers speak, you should examine yourself and before defending such a crooked group of people you should think twice. Our are you getting a juicy kickback from that party boy you called CEO or the crooked VP of Sales who also runs the pathetic distribution company. Bad! bad! and now you think firing a director and not the heads will clean your FEMA mess? No Sir, thats a stain that will hit the news and everywhere, because its inmoral to go around robbing people like Seccion Amarilla does.

Update by SAUSA Victim
Sep 12, 2009 9:39 am EDT

Momento, Inc. v. Seccion Amarilla USA, 2009 WL 1974798 (N.D. Cal.)

Momento sued defendant SAUSA for copying Momento’s Spanish-language ads for use in its own Spanish directories. Momento owned both the individual ads and the design and layout of its directories. (As set forth in another order, Momento created advertisements for its Yellow Pages by “preparing text, taking photographs of client advertisers, translating text from English to Spanish, and designing the layout of advertisements, including selection of fonts and colors.”) SAUSA argued that it got nonexclusive licenses directly from the advertisers as part of its form contract with them, and that the Momento ads were works of joint authorship because they resulted from collaboration between SAUSA and the advertisers and incorporated preexisting elements. (Interesting business model: allegedly, SAUSA solicits customers by sending an “ad proof” that’s a scanned copy of a Momento ad, sometimes with font/color changes; customers are asked for permission to print the ad “as is” for free, or with corrections for a fee.)

Under the 9th Circuit’s test for joint authorship, the court found, Momento is the sole owner of the ads. Momento’s contracts with its clients say that Momento’s artwork is its sole property; one client expressly sought permission to use a photo taken by Momento on its web page; and several clients submitted declarations that they never gave SAUSA permission to copy the Momento ads (not sure why this is relevant to ownership, but ok—in fact, of course, regardless of whether the ads are jointly authored, the contract could separately change the ownership).

So Momento showed likely success on the merits of the copyright infringement claim. It also alleged false advertising under California state law based on SAUSA’s sales pitch that its directories are “the first and only Spanish directory delivered to consumers in Northern California.” SAUSA argued that the parties have entirely different methods of delivering the directories, making the claim ambiguous at most. However, Momento’s was the first Spanish directory published in Northern California and thus “at least that part of the statement is false.” In the absence of evidence that consumers weren’t deceived, then, Momento therefore showed a likelihood of success on the merits. Now, in Lanham Act parlance, it probably is true that “delivered to consumers” is ambiguous—if a directory is published, but consumers need to purchase it or call to request it or pick it up at a grocery store, then it’s not “delivered to consumers” and that even seems likely to be material to potential advertisers, since a directory delivered to consumers is more likely to reach those consumers who aren’t proactively seeking a Spanish-language directory. However, California law doesn’t include the false/misleading distinction, so it was open to the court to find the statement likely to deceive consumers even without evidence of actual consumer deception.

Since this was a preliminary injunction motion, the court then turned to the issue of irreparable injury. The old 9th Circuit rule that a presumption of irreparable harm applies in a copyright case can’t be applied automatically after eBay, however. So instead the court applied the general test: irreparable injury; remedies available at law inadequate; balance of hardships; public interest.

Momento argued that the harm to its investment and competitive position caused by SAUSA’s copying at least 30 Momento ads showed irreparable harm. SAUSA says it’s the largest publisher of Spanish Yellow Pages in the world, and Momento is a family-owned business, directly competing. The court found that the copying and false advertising had an adverse and irreparable effect on Momento. The court could fairly consider Momento’s competitive position where SAUSA “built its business” around Momento’s works.

SAUSA argued that Momento’s four-month delay before filing suit precluded a finding of irreparable harm. Momento, however, wrote to SAUSA before that and got a response from SAUSA’s counsel that it took IP rights very seriously and was investigating, and would cease any infringements found, requesting proof of Momento’s copyright registrations and Momento’s directories to investigate further. Then, several months passed. The court accepted Momento’s explanation that it didn’t sue until it had evidence that SAUSA hadn’t ceased infringing, which came only when a new directory was published; Momento sued about a month and a half after that.

The court ordered SAUSA to retrieve directories stored on pallets at distribution points, but did not require SAUSA to retrieve directories picked up by consumers, and enjoined further distribution. SAUSA had notice of the infringement contentions as of the first cease & desist letter, yet proceeded with production; the injunction created a hardship for SAUSA, but not an unreasonable one in light of its decision to keep printing.

Note: in an earlier order, Momento, Inc. v. Seccion Amarilla USA, 2009 WL 1974905 (N.D. Cal.), the court denied a TRO on the ground that the plaintiff hadn’t made the extraordinary showing required. Without notice to SAUSA, the court stated the standard for irreparable harm using the old 9th Circuit presumption. Once there was notice and a hearing, the court had a chance to get more deeply into the law as well as the facts: a victory for the adversary process.
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Update by SAUSA Victim
Sep 12, 2009 11:31 pm EDT

Dissapointed...a thug, just like all management in sausa.

Update by SAUSA Victim
Sep 13, 2009 2:48 pm EDT

They fired the manager and made this thug a manager... welcome to the revolving door, only 10% employee retention?

Update by SAUSA Victim
Sep 15, 2009 11:46 am EDT

Fake info on FEMA? that was a SAusa memo...haha. How fake it is? the very own sausa memo that say that FEMA will NOT pay their ads... crooks! croooooksss!

Update by SAUSA Victim
Sep 27, 2009 7:22 pm EDT

The facts stated by ComeClean are the purest truth. Now, they face federal indictments. They fired a sales director from Oklahoma as scapegoat, but they have not touched the true monster...not just the VPs and the playboy CEO but the Nashville sales director who filled the Chattanooga book with fake contracts and dozens of FEMA ads. He got his bonus... the employees nothing!

Update by SAUSA Victim
Mar 13, 2010 8:26 am EST

The office of Seccion Amarilla in Los Angeles has closed. At last!
This theives are on the run, its time to shut down all the offices and leave the US, you guys have abused and robbed enough.

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Maria
Los Angeles, US
Jul 09, 2011 3:50 pm EDT
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Seccion Amarilla, the unstoppable king of fraud...judge for your self. A copy of a company who didn't get what he paid for, but was forced to pay.

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MyEthix
Louisville, US
Oct 21, 2011 6:06 pm EDT

Disappointed, you would be out of your depth in a parking lot puddle. If manure were music, you'd be a one man brass band! There are plenty of people who have PROOF of what went on there and who have not put it out there... yet. Do not mistake the silence for absolution of what has gone on in your little house of horrors. And do not talk about people not using their real names on this board - I do not see you using your real name, either -- so put a sock in it.

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MyEthix
Louisville, US
Oct 21, 2011 5:54 pm EDT

No one here really even knows the half at what has gone on at that company. Apparently, they've FINALLY fired Juan Refreger - you know the short little Mexican wanna-be Jonathan Blue with the Napoleonic complex? Yeah, THAT guy. He gives certain English words a whole new meaning... words like inept, incompetent, racist (he HATES Americans!), whiny, abusive, lazy, jealous, mean-spirited. I could go on... but for the sake of brevity, I won't. Juan is a Mexican National and the ONLY reason he is here is because he is sponsored by Johnathan Blue, wealthy businessman out of Louisville, KY. Juan went to go work for Seccion Amarilla, a violation of his work visa - and while there was very derisive about Jonathan behind his back. He's jealous of Jonathan because he's constantly in his shadow and can't seem to get out and make his own way without totally and completely screwing things up. If you look at the guy's work history, it reads like this (my paraphrase): I worked for my daddy in Mexico and now I'm working for my quintessential big brother, Jonathan Blue, in Louisville, KY. I did have a couple of years where I had to essentially go it on my own, but I kind of messed that up and they fired me, now I'm back under Jonathan's wing and HATING every minute of it because I'M not in control!" Of course, now that he's been summarily FIRED from Seccion Amarilla, he's run back to Louisville, KY with his tail tucked between his legs and is once again Jonathan's whipping boy. I say 'whipping boy' because Juan is a VP in name only... because Jonathan and Juan's fathers were friends, Jonathan looks out for Juan - all of his ineptness aside. I think if Jonathan knew the things that Juan has said behind his back in an attempt to play the 'big man', he might have a different take on Juan. As for Juan, if he was given half a chance and knew that Jonathan would never know OR that Jonathan was down and out, he'd stick a knife in Jonathan's back in a New York nano-second... maybe Jonathan's smart enough to know that... maybe he isn't. Either way, I've seen Jonathan make decisions that were less than, let's say ethical, in order to protect Juan. And don't get me started on some of the people they've had working there, Sergio, Loren Maldonado, Maria Pena and her 'assistant' Yana - the biggest bunch of liars, thieves and losers on the planet! Talk about screwing up a company. Carl Slim could personally send a thank you note to each of these people for the demise of a once profitable company - but then he could also thank all the rocket scientists he has working in Mexico, as well. You can't do business in the states the same way you'd do it in Mexico... but boy oh boy, they sure were trying... and you can see how well it worked out. Pffft. I say good riddance to them.

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rocky21
Dallas, US
Sep 01, 2010 3:05 pm EDT
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This compiny is a total fraud, I know for a fact, I have been scam by them

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edukateu
A city near you, US
Mar 16, 2010 8:25 am EDT

This is the way I see it. If you disagree, you have a right. Seccion Amarilla is like a police force. Not all police officers are good, neither are all SAUSA employees. The most important thing is to remember the company's mission/objective. My experiences with Seccion Amarilla were great!
I am unsure as to why or how you guys have had the negative experiences you have had but I pray that all eventually goes well. Peace.

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M.G.
, US
Jan 22, 2010 9:45 am EST

Anything said against Seccion Amarilla is going to be short of how bad this really is. As ex Sales Director I have seen things at all levels and in all areas, as no one can even start to comprehend. This company should be taken to court and put out of business, starting with Jonathan Blue in Louisville (KY) and his CEO, Juan Reffreger (a true piece of work), and everyone involved in their acts at their corporate offices in Miramar (FL). They are just common thieves operating from an office. - Martin Gondra.

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RUN FROM THIS COMPANY
Kansas City, US
Dec 06, 2009 10:53 pm EST

IF DISSAPOINTED IS ACTUALLY A SALES REP HE IS TO NEW TO KNOW WHAT THE HELL HE IS TALKING ABOUT. HE SOUNDS MORE LIKE THE COMPANY ATTORNEY. THIS GUY HAS THE MORELS OF A NAZI. EVERYTHING MARIA AND COME CLEAN SAYS IS CORRECT. DISSAPOINTED ONE THING I CAN NOT STAND IS SELL OUTS TAKING ADVANTAGE OF PEOPLE IN THE NAME OF LATINO PEOPLE! I PROMISE YOU ONE DAY YOU AND ALL THE INDIVIDUALS INVOLVED IN YOUR LIES AND THREATS AND DISRESPECT WILL PAY. LIVE LIFE TO THE FULLEST NOW. AND BEST BELIEVE WHAT COMES AROUND GOES AROUND. TOMORROW YOUR JOB, MONEY, AND FAMILIES MAY BE THE ONES HAVING TO DEAL WITH ALL WE EX EMPLOYEES AND CUSTOMERS HAVE. GOOD LUCK AND MAY GOD HAVE MERCY ON YOU FOR ALL THE LIVES YOU SO NEGATIVILY EFFECT!

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Come Clean
Tampa, US
Sep 27, 2009 1:47 pm EDT

If you work for this Company you would also know that your Managers got paid Book Bonuses on those FEMA Insurance contracts and the Company has
no intention of paying the sales reps for the work they did there will be no commissions unless some Attorney happens to file a huge suit there is huge
amounts of money owed to the reps past and present not only for these contracts but other contracts the company never paid the reps
they do this quite often whether you work there or have left.

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Come Clean
Tampa, US
Sep 27, 2009 1:23 pm EDT

If you really work for this Company you would know that they have federal indictments relating to the FEMA contracts.
If you are the great Sales Person you say why don't you charm us with your knowledge of this product and the benefits
Everybody out there would love to see some of your expertise at work be sure in your presentation to include real facts like
distribution and RCF's and Usuage studies if you know what this means or what they are.
Or are you just full of it and that is the only way you know to sell, do you have any training from anywhere other than them,
or are you just saying what you have been told to say can you actually back up anything you have been told to say.
That is the whole problem with this company and you.

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Maria
Los Angeles, US
Sep 16, 2009 12:06 pm EDT
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Typical...issue resolved.

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Disappointed
Abilene, US
Sep 16, 2009 12:10 am EDT

No, Maria. You're the one that's not too bright. That "email" is something that anyone can type up. There's no message header, so it must be fake.

How long has been since you two have had a job? This isn't about Seccion Amarilla. Judging from your obsessive postings, it's more about how you two couldn't hack the job and got canned.

By the way, you two are in a little bit of trouble now. I'm signing off here because you are both mentally unstable.

The real fun should be starting soon...hahhahha

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Maria
Los Angeles, US
Sep 15, 2009 3:16 pm EDT
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Disappointment...your not very bright are you?

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Disappointed
Abilene, US
Sep 15, 2009 9:32 am EDT

If I were you, i'd stop using google. Just LOOK at their lawsuit from advertisers. http://googlewatch.eweek.com/content/google_lawsuits/

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Disappointed
Abilene, US
Sep 14, 2009 10:03 pm EDT

Stop evading the issue. Where's the proof from the lawyer? We're all waiting to see it. I'm calling the lawyer tomorrow and telling him you have his name on here.

And stop posting fake info with that FEMA stuff. It's fake and you know it.

Hmmm...losers like you last only 2 months.

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Maria
Los Angeles, US
Sep 13, 2009 9:24 pm EDT
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104 days ago by Disappointed---your post, what made you change your tune?

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Maria
Los Angeles, US
Sep 13, 2009 9:15 pm EDT
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Disappointment...you fit right in at Seccion Amarilla, you sound like my last supervisor at seccion, he lasted 2months. Good luck

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Disappointed
Abilene, US
Sep 13, 2009 7:41 pm EDT

Well, apparantely all is well now. Because I'm not a wimp and can sell, I have a job. The reason people fail at sales is that they are unorganized, unstructured, undiscplined, and well, just lazy, .

Stop evading the issue. Where's the proof from the lawyer? We're all waiting to see it.

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Maria
Los Angeles, US
Sep 13, 2009 11:23 am EDT
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104 days ago by Disappointed 0 Votes

I've been with Seccion Amarilla for only 3 weeks. Although I did not make my quota the first 2 weeks, I did sell $8500.00 my third week, which averages out to a little over my $3000/wk. quota. However, I was written up 2 hours before I made a $6000 sale.

Also, I'm finding inconsistencies between what is written in the company handbook, and what is actually going on in the local office. Did I forget to mention that two accounts I was working on were taken away from me due to mismanagement. There are many accounts I could get with friends and family, but I will NEVER do it because I don't trust them to do it right!

Some of the valid concerns I have are that there was NO training. We were on the phones the second day, and I had my first appointment the 4th day and did sell. Another concern is that I'm doing renewals, and I've encountered the problems already with bad translations, no distribution, wrong headings, not sending proofs to clients.

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Maria
Los Angeles, US
Sep 13, 2009 11:17 am EDT
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If you feel that strong about Seccion Amarilla, give us your name and location
and I will reciprocate. So far all you do is ramble and make idle threats, show us how we are wrong.

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Disappointed
Abilene, US
Sep 13, 2009 10:50 am EDT

My apoligies to the complain board for Maria and SAUSA VICTIM for posting things that are pulling out of their butts with absolutely no concrete facts to back them up.

This is the typical case of disgruntled employees getting fired for being worthless.

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Disappointed
Abilene, US
Sep 13, 2009 10:47 am EDT

Why are you two so afraid to post your real names? I will tell you why. Your are engaging in illegal activties by posting material that identifies an entity and the names associated with that entity. The end result is your are attempting to hurt people. If I were you, I would google courts subeoning ip addresses to determine the owner of the computer where slanderous posts are coming from. You are leaving yourself wide open for a lawsuit. hahahhaha

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Disappointed
Abilene, US
Sep 13, 2009 10:40 am EDT

Show facts Maria. Gestapo? Looks like you and little Mr. Law Breaker are the gestapo.

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Maria
Los Angeles, US
Sep 12, 2009 11:02 pm EDT
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My apologize to, Complaint board for using up precious space, to show the typical attitude
at Seccion Amarilla. This company has made it's fortune at the expense of hard working citizens of third world countries, who don't have a choice or anywhere to complain. As a result Seccion Amarilla has never had competition nor challenged to operate, without the strong hold it has on it's consumers and employee's. What surprises me is that this company is owned by the second richest man in the world, one would expect with all his world knowledge, he would of instructed his executive to cease there Gestapo tactics in business and actually treat his US venture with a little more professionalism. But when you have been king of the mountain, this idea would have been an insult.

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Maria
Los Angeles, US
Sep 12, 2009 9:30 pm EDT
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Bring it on...I 'm PREPARED

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Disappointed
Abilene, US
Sep 12, 2009 8:28 pm EDT

And posting confidental things. Boy, that kind of puts you in the same suit doesn't it. How ethical are you? You just think you can do what you want. What you did is ILLEGAL. Does that register in your little pea brain. ILLEGAL. Who the hell are you to talk.

I think you have bigger issues here. I think you are a total failure at your job. Only a ### would go on and on and post things ILLEGALLY. Hope a court supeonas your ip address on here soon, and you'll be the one getting sued. Trust me. It will happen.

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Disappointed
Abilene, US
Sep 12, 2009 8:25 pm EDT

Then why do I keep renewing clients year after year after year. Because their unhappy?

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Disappointed
Abilene, US
Sep 12, 2009 8:23 pm EDT

Slander and libel will get you nothing but jail time. If I were you, I would read up on the laws because you're making a total ### of yourself.

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Disappointed
Abilene, US
Sep 12, 2009 8:22 pm EDT

And, I've heard you were the worst sales rep ever.

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Disappointed
Abilene, US
Sep 12, 2009 8:21 pm EDT

Where's the FEMA post? That's what I wanted see. OH WOW...companies suing each other...like this is a new concept. It's been going on forever between companies. Geez, are you that naive?

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Maria
Los Angeles, US
Sep 12, 2009 12:01 pm EDT
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A challenge...IF ! you can find a seccion amarilla phone book, open it any page will
do, call and ask THE customer, how satisfied they are. Do a BBB search NATIONWIDE
and again in black and white you'll see.

I don't do well with narrow minded people, who choose to ignore the facts in black and white...and are to lazy to research their own information to back up their twisted way of looking at things. But hey keep it comming disappointed, this gives us a reason to publicly air YOUR dirty laundry.

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Disappointed
Abilene, US
Sep 12, 2009 9:24 am EDT

I looked...LOL...nothing. A lawyer giving out info. How ridiculous you are. Your nuts. Post it smart boy. I'm sure they'll give you the documents.

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Maria
Los Angeles, US
Sep 11, 2009 11:48 pm EDT
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I am not evading anything...I won't HELP YOU, your the curious one, you call
Doustkam & Assoc ask for Ethan 213/480-8844, or maybe Ali at In House Counsel
and only because I'm in a good mood I'll give you one more; Law Office of Mark T. Atkinson...hint it's all on the net, if you look.

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Disappointed
Abilene, US
Sep 11, 2009 9:03 pm EDT

And...Why are you evading my question? You just skirt around the issues. Where are those 'PUBLIC" doucments from the lawyer. I'm sure he's going to be very interested in this...LOL. You aren't too smart are you?...hahahah.

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Disappointed
Abilene, US
Sep 11, 2009 9:01 pm EDT

You sound like a raving idiot. Like I said, I take care of my customers. Something you obviously couldn't do. If you had, you would have seen the VERY happy clients.

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Disappointed
Abilene, US
Sep 11, 2009 9:00 pm EDT

I just quoted you the law, and you totally miss the point. The point is YOU are the unethical one. I can see why you don't have anything better to do. You must have canned FINALLY.

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Maria
Los Angeles, US
Sep 11, 2009 8:52 am EDT
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Perfect example of what future employees or customer care have to put up with...avoid the problem and hope it goes away. Disappointed just gave us a taste of how they resolve problems...good job Disappointed, keep up the rantings, show us what you got !

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Disappointed
Abilene, US
Sep 11, 2009 8:11 am EDT

Since you have appointed yourself judge and jury, why don't you post that PUBLIC document on here?

You are really sad. Bashing a company for being unethical and then suppossedly still working for them.

Here's something to keep in mind.

'In a libel case, the hardest part is trying to interpret the intent of the defendant. If someone's intent was clearly malicious, then a libel case has a good chance of succeeding. Libel is not libel when it is about and un-definable group of people or organization. Saying all "CEO's are crooks" is not libel, but specifically naming a person who is a CEO, most likely is."

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Disappointed
Abilene, US
Sep 11, 2009 7:48 am EDT

How would know about in documents in LA?

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Disappointed
Abilene, US
Sep 11, 2009 7:47 am EDT

You're right Maria! Spelling doesn't matter for ignorant people. Documents? Since when do lawyers give you access to their documents? I assume you're talking about public court records because no attorney is going to let see his documents. The only complaints I see are coming from a disgruntled employee who sits on his butt and is happy to get 200 bucks a week for doing nothing. Get a job. Get a life.

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Maria
Los Angeles, US
Sep 10, 2009 6:03 pm EDT
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TO POTENTIAL CLIENTS/EMPLOYEE'S: I could answer DISAPPOINTED ill attemp at...well not really sure, but that
would serve no purpose. The key factor to consider is what is documented, attorney Doustkam & Associates, in Los Angeles
can provide all the documention to verify our allegations, or just google "seccion amarilla complaints" and you be the judge.