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All I can see is a web site called scam busters where ionet posted the details about you that are freely available online. So where did solo and or canajanz post your details? I suppose in your conspiracy world they are all one person. Probably V8Bikers alternative ids!
Nope all I can see is a business deal that has gone bad. The reason does not matter to me. What matters is I can clearly see you have taken business information that was exchanged as part of that deal as PRIVATE not public information and posted it on your website. It is a shoddy practice by a poor business man. Plenty have tried to tell you this and all you have done is whine it was not your fault and escalate the situation.
Parts of that may be conjecture but it also remains evident that you attempted to get an unconnected person in trouble with their employer. Again you whine that someone gave you the information and laughably claim It was a V8Biker persona! Whatever, you still took the information and used it maliciously even after you were told it was incorrect.
Now which ever way you look at it, that last trick was a low blow. But I am happy to let the people who see this judge your actions. Now I may be sailing close to the Nietzsche path but I can live with that.

Update by WillTravers
Feb 05, 2013 5:04 am EST

Ah Brulie, are you able to give us some comments on how you were attempting to view child pornography through your facebook account?

Update by WillTravers
Feb 06, 2013 2:20 am EST

Ah mapman aka eagle I didn't say it without evidence to back it up! But don't take my word for it, I've put up the screenshot taken from his facebook page. I'll let people be the judge of it's significance!

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Update by WillTravers
Feb 06, 2013 2:22 am EST

You can judge from the photo what you think of brulie aka bruce forlongs activity. It was taken from the public domain.

Update by WillTravers
Feb 06, 2013 5:34 am EST

Ah mike pope, see always supposition you can't back up, prove I'm V8biker! I think you'll find it hard because I'm up in Auckland and he's somewhere down in the South Island. It's great to see what you reckon is a decent level of proof! What is your favourite phrase? - 'facts I'm loving it'! You wouldn't know a fact if it slapped you round the mush with a red herring! I happily admit contacting your wife to let her know how you were misbehaving, though I suspect she never saw the email I sent her, I guess this because she hasn't hung you up by your balls! I guess that might be impossible as you appear lacking in that area! Your daughter contacted me first as did some of her rather sad mates! Your daughter begged me to send evidence of your concerning behaviour and after I did she shut up pronto. One of her mates was seriously left with egg on her face because she got quite abusive through facebook whilst announcing her employer on her facebook page! Now THAT really made me laugh! Face it you're (notice 'you're' not 'your' here mikey boy, you'll get it right one day I'm sure) a paranoid conspiracy theorist, but I'll leave anyone heading over to MB2 to see what an absolute muppet you make of yourself over there. It's a shame you can't post in MB2 anymore as I'm sure that would be a better place for this discussion. However having seen how defensive and malicious you get when you're beaten I can respect the MB2 admins decision. Anyways, care to have a few more guesses who I really am? Keep trying you're not even tepid yet! LAF? I'm sure she's probably doubling over laughing at you by now!

I can't help but notice you've shut up about brucie's behaviour! What's the matter? Are you deflecting after you saw some genuine proof?

Update by WillTravers
Feb 06, 2013 7:55 pm EST

Once again mickey pope is happy to throw about accusations without proof! So prove I contacted your daughter and her mates first - simple way screen shot of my earliest communication to them. I can then show an earlier date where they communicated with me. Do it mapma'am and show me to be a liar, I don't think you can can you? Rather than throwing around accusations I like to prove things - a trick that escapes you repeatedly! You'll also note I was always polite in any reply!

I didn't tag brucie in any video or photo, and brucie certainly didn't delete that one, he clicked 'like' an action someone takes when they are trying to watch the viral videos you get on facebook. So he probably didn't realise that facebook would display the 'like' but it certainly demonstrates his intent to watch it! As to it being me that tagged him, I've just tried and I can't tag someone I don't know unless they are connected to me via a friend. That certainly isn't a case with brucie! It appears you lack familiarity with facebook, I always like it when someone catches themselves out in their lies!

As for MB2 - I think people can read it for themselves and make up their own minds. I think that's why V8biker and all the admins are so happy to have it openly displayed and you're so busy trying to get them to take it down.

So keep up your lies and your baseless accusations mickey pope, you're doing an excellent job.

Update by WillTravers
Feb 07, 2013 12:00 am EST

ah mapman, I'm not lying, in fact in one of the threads on MB2 there is a part where you gloatingly refer to the fact that your daughter and her friends will come after me online! Is your memory failing you a bit? I was always polite in my responses and I would be quite happy to post them if you want to prove it!
As for Brucie - you don't delete by clicking the play button which is what sets up the like on your page! Also I can't tag him in facebook as he is in no way connected to me. A fine example of someone trying to lie when they don't understand the mechanics of what they are lying about there mapma'am!

You make some pretty humourous ranting in the pagesd of MB2 mickey pope, which I guess is why the admins there have kept it visible for all to see. That probably explains your incessant whining to their hosts as well!

Update by WillTravers
Feb 07, 2013 10:20 pm EST

Well mapma'am I see you've shut up about brulie and he's conspicuous in his absence of explanation! What can we take from that?

As you can see I can supply proof for my allegations, which brings me to my next bit. -Can you supply proof for yours? Namely that I emailed your daughter and her friends first! It's easy to prove - you put up a screen shot of the emails I sent them. I'll be left with egg on my face when I can't prove I didn't email them first. Except it won't happen will it? Because you can't supply that screen shot. Why? because you know it never happened like that. Which will show you to be a liar as well as a stalking creep.

It's really the same as the whole topic on the scambusters site about you - you never answered the crucial question - will people be hit with an import bill if they ordered a UTV cover through you from the USA. A highly relevant question that as far as I can see to date you have evaded. That along with your paranoid rantings about chemtrails and US B-52 bombers flying low over Auckland last decade and your stalking is why people will always view you as a crank case! It's those rantings which drive your desire to get MB2 to take down their section on all the threads you have contributed to. It's those rantings which are captured by MB2 which drive you whining emails to their web host trying to get them to take MB2 offline.

You were told a long time ago that what happens on the internet stays there for a long time and yet you chose to continue with your sociopathic behaviour in all it's forms. You only have yourself to blame that it remains on multiple sites (you own included) for people to see you for what you are and run a mile before doing business with you. So hopefully as any petulant child has to learn - yor negative actions have negative consequences. It's simple Pavlov mickey boy!

Update by WillTravers
Feb 10, 2013 5:34 am EST

So mapman, AKA eagle aka mike pope, rather than actually try to back up any of your claims you just decide to launch into another set of claims all equally unprovable. You behave with all the skill and integrity of a tabloid newspaper reporter and have the gall to say we are the trolls.

I see your site provides a link on how to kill trolls. Will you be booking a B 52 to flyover Auckland to accomplish this or do they just lay chemtrails?

Update by WillTravers
Feb 12, 2013 5:02 am EST

Desperately trying to divert attention away from needing to back up your claims mikey?

Update by WillTravers
Feb 13, 2013 2:23 am EST

Still desperately trying to divert attention away from having to back up your previous claims mikey?

To use a phrase of his own I think this showcases mapman aka eagle aka mike pope as a liar.

I am happy to state that mike pope is a liar. he has made claims and he is unable to back them up and tries to divert attention away from backing them up. So if you think he is a good person to do business with, do so at your own peril.

Update by WillTravers
Feb 13, 2013 1:18 pm EST

Nothing wrong with defending yourself mapmadam but when you do it with claims that you can not back up you always end up looking like an idiot.

Update by WillTravers
Feb 14, 2013 8:39 am EST

You're quite right brulie, ignore it and pretend it will go away. That way you will not have to answer questions about how you were seeking out child pornography.

Update by WillTravers
Feb 14, 2013 8:52 am EST

So mike pope, you once again state that I contacted your daughter first. I invited you to prove it which you know you cannot and you have yet to do so. From where I am sitting you are doing a good job of showcasing yourself as a ### with comprehension issues!

I see you demonstrate your chronology issues again with the death threat from Dean story. You might have forgotten but you got his address from your mate and promised to pay him a visit in a non friendly fashion. I think his response in context of your threats to him was quite an appropriate one. If your going to whine about your perceived problems you should really learn to put them into their appropriate context better.

Update by WillTravers
Feb 14, 2013 9:11 pm EST

brulie I find your excuse unbelievable to say the least. Everyone knows that you click report and not like to report concerning content on facebook, so I am sure they join me in disbelieving your explanation! Still it is good to have a copy of your attempted justification, thanks for that!

As for my profile saying I am in Sweden, that field was populated by the web page, so I can only assume that it picked up that I was posting from Sweden when I registered. As I said though my permanent residence is in Auckland.

Update by WillTravers
Feb 15, 2013 4:21 pm EST

Every time I make a claim mapman I can back it up. You carry on with your claims that you can not back up though because it showcases you as a liar and a hypocrite. I will not be melting down, on the contrary I will be laughing as you carry on making a prat out of yourself for all the internet to see.

Dean0 hit the nail bang on the head with his post about you.

Update by WillTravers
Feb 18, 2013 2:59 pm EST

Looks like mapmaniac is having another melt down. Blaming everyone else for his poor actions but himself. You had it pointed out to you that all your details were fully viewable online and that your behavior and whistleblower website were bad ideas given this.
Your whistleblower website posted the details of a female who had made customer enquiries of your utv business. I suspect the majority of MB2 denizens saw your behavior on that website and formed a negative view of you. I certainly did and believe that is what lead to their reaction to you.
Your problem so it seems is that when things do not go your way you create your own conspiracy theory as to why it happened. Hence we have B-52s flying over Auckland dropping chemicals. Admittedly you borrowed that theory from another person who has been fined for their crazy beliefs. We also have you theory that MB2 and scam busters are populated by the same people and that V8Biker has multiple identities all playing off against each other on MB2. Keep it up you are doing a good job of making yourself a laughing stock.
I will go back to enjoying my holiday but will not say where as I would fully expect given your stalking behaviour that you would come down to the central plateau trying to find me!

Update by WillTravers
Feb 19, 2013 12:21 pm EST

As far as I can see mapmaniac you received information from a business enquiry that you have then made public. You also received information from a person you do not know about another person unconnected aka Jethro Tull that you then used to email their boss and try to land them in hot water with their employer. You whine that you were fed misinformation. Well lets be clear about it you just plain whine about everything when it does not go your way.
So what do we have? Basically an idiot who cannot check their sources and lacks ethics. You do not look to good from where I am standing. Especially as you claim scam busters do not check their sources.
From what I have read on the scam buster page all that was commented on was the possibility that you were drop shipping and that trademe do not usually allow that. You went off on one and got abusive. You claim you were justified. Well I have seen your justified behaviour as you put it quite frequently and to date it is wanting.
I suspect scam busters and MB2 are very happy to leave up the threads about you not because they are trolls but because they showcase you for what you truly are. That along with your websites show you up. I guess that is why you whine away to their hosts trying to get those threads removed. Hardly the action of someone who has nothing to fear from the threads.
I think people will learn that when they see the threads on MB2 about you.

Update by WillTravers
Feb 19, 2013 11:55 pm EST

Lol, I see you are back to claiming I contacted your daughter first! As I have asked you, why not post the screenshot to prove it. You know you can not because you rely on falsehood. When I get a chance I will post the screenshot of her message to me that proves she contacted me first. You really are an unbelievable whiner mapmaniac.
Dean0 is there a vinyl record grade for a stuck record? I think mapmaniac would score it!

Update by WillTravers
Feb 20, 2013 3:42 am EST

Lol mapmaniac you go round in circles. You are the one that whines about me contacting your daughter first. I invite you to produce the evidence. To date you have failed miserably to produce the evidence. I freely admit to replying to emails that your daughter sent, what am I to do, she initiated contact! I'm also happy with my decision to contact your wife she needed to know about your behavior. I am only sad that it did not work and she was not able to get you to see sense. If she had the whole sorry affair of you contacting Jethro Tulls employer would never have happened. But then the end result of that was only that you made yourself look stupid and rather crazy.

Update by WillTravers
Feb 20, 2013 4:01 am EST

Incidentally you say you want to post my details! You are actually closer to knowing me than you think. Like many people using Facebook and wishing to avoid undue attention I use my mas maiden name. You know where I come from and where I live or at least would if you can see my Facebook account. The hardest part will be working out what Will is an abbreviation of.
When you work it out you are welcome to pop round for a cuppa if you can keep it nice as I live just round the corner from you as it were!

Update by WillTravers
Feb 21, 2013 3:15 pm EST

Lol at mapmaniac and his whining about identity theft. Your legal team are really the lawyer equivalent of the keystone cops.
Mapmaniac whines identity theft, I see someone using a photo freely available on the Internet with no other claims.
Mapmaniac whines scam busters found guilty, I see no judgment made just lawyers taking the least expensive path. The fact he can not see the difference showcases him as a ###.
Mapmaniac whines repeatedly that I stalked his daughter. I say fine, shame me by producing the evidence. He can not which showcases him as a liar.
Mapmaniac whines that he was made to involve an innocent bystander in his problems, I see a sniveling child unable to take responsibility for his actions.

Update by WillTravers
Feb 23, 2013 2:15 pm EST

I would apologise to you Dean and all other members of MB2 that have been accused of being me, although I am sure you will all agree with me that mapman makes himself look pretty stupid everytime he gets a new conspiracy theory in his head.
I also find myself agreeing with pretty much everything Dean and V8 have to say because I have been on the receiving end of mapmans facts so I can see that he never lets facts get in the way of his twisted ideas!
I see the national business institute is now targeting MB2. Is that because I showcased the proprietor of that site aka Brulie as a seeker of paedophile pornography? I must apologise V8 if you have been unduly targeted because of me but I am sure you will join me in laughing at the rank amateurishness of the site considering its mighty title! I gather brulie is also falling for the misinformation that has been fed to him, another person who would not recognize a fact if it slapped him with a red herring.

Update by WillTravers
Feb 25, 2013 7:24 am EST

Dean have you not learned yet? It is never map mans fault! It is always everyone else in the worlds fault. [/sarcasm]. I think he might qualify for a persecution complex in the DSM-IV manual. Check it out mapmaniac.
Just think mapman, if your wife had listened when I pointed out your erratic behaviour to her you might not be in this hole and still digging.
Having seen your latest idiocy in EOTI, including your avatar, I am reminded of that jack Nicholson film 'a few good men'! Check out how it ends...

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ASpence
Noosaville, AU
Dec 04, 2012 12:35 am EST

Never mind the above post regarding web hosting :)

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ASpence
Noosaville, AU
Dec 04, 2012 12:04 am EST

I have just found out that Alf west is moving his domain hosting from neutron.co.nz to http://www.nucleus.co.nz . I will be letting http://www.nucleus.co.nz know of my intention to sue not only Alf West for posting his defamatory comments but also any website that hosts the material such as themselves.

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ASpence
Noosaville, AU
Dec 03, 2012 11:21 pm EST

I have been speaking with lawyers over the last few months regarding taking action against defamatory statements published on scambusters.co.nz by forum users and the webmaster himself. I have requested the false statements to be removed from the site with no success. While drafting a final written letter of demand with advice from my lawyer I came across this website forum.
Can I please have more information as to what is happening with the website, as I am currently unable to access it.
The information will help me to better make an informed decision as to whether I should go ahead with court proceedings.
It is not going to be a costly battle for me as my lawyer has agreed to a "no win no fee basis" based on all of the information they have received.
All statements made on the website by forum users and the webmaster can be proven to be false and certainly can be proven to be published publically, and to have caused harm and damage to myself, my reputation and my business, profit losses are easily proven and I have statements from people which show that my standing in society have been lowered and I have been rejected from jobs, rental properties and had my lease illegally terminated as a result of this website forum. All of these people had the circumstances explained to them and they have agreed to and have completed affidavits for me to use in court.

I cant make an informed decision to go ahead with court proceedings unless I know if the website has been permanently removed.

Brulie
Brulie
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Nov 27, 2012 11:08 am EST
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ALF WEST DID NOT REMOVE THE DEFAMATORY THREAD, HENCE THE SCAMBUSTERS WEBSITE WAS REMOVED INSTEAD:
The News received from the Scambusters NZ Website Host:
“Please be advised that we have today suspended the account of Scambusters and requested that the alleged defamatory posts associated with you and your business be removed OR that the publisher of the site proves to our satisfaction that the content is not defamatory. I have also made it clear to the publishers (Scambusters NZ) that at this stage Digiweb (Host) believes that the posts could be reasonably construed as defamatory due to the fact that the content is published under the website address of “Scambusters”

(The misinformation posts have now been removed and the Site reinstated – Thank you Alf West)

Brulie
Brulie
, NZ
Nov 27, 2012 11:06 am EST
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ALF WEST DID NOT REMOVE THE DEFAMATORY THREADS, HENCE THE SCAMBUSTERS NZ WEBSITE WAS REMOVED INSTEAD:
The News received from the Scambusters NZ Website Host:
“Please be advised that we have today suspended the account of Scambusters and requested that the alleged defamatory posts associated with you and your business be removed OR that the publisher of the site proves to our satisfaction that the content is not defamatory. I have also made it clear to the publishers(Scambusters) that at this stage Digiweb (Host) believes that the posts could be reasonably construed as defamatory due to the fact that the content is published under the website address of “Scambusters”

(The defamatory and misinformation threads have now been removed and the Site reinstated – Thank you Alf West)

Brulie
Brulie
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Sep 29, 2012 4:38 am EDT
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Trademe whom scambusters claim to protect say scambusters nz spread misinformation, spam and hinder police investigations. In my experience a bunch of inept amateurs driven by conspiracy type thinking, whose mantra seems to be "I've made up my mind, please don't confuse me with the truth". Bit of honest research before posting would limit misinformation or if site owner Alf West monitored his zealots posts more professionally. But them amateurs in this role is a comedy equalling the keystone cops

Brulie
Brulie
, NZ
Sep 29, 2012 3:10 am EDT
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Me too. Mistakenly wrongly posted me and my company on sb nz for an ad i did not place or know the person who did. They got it badly wrong. Site owner Alf West refuses to remove thread because we didnt ask nicely enough...really, maybe Alf is god..arrogance and inept vigilantism at least driven by conspiricy theory type thinking. Unfortunately, being posted on scambusters has cost us thousands because in retaliation for threatening Site owner Alf West with legal action he has used his intenet skills to ensure whenever or names are googled the thread comes up first. Sly man scamming us on his own ste scambusters. Shame

mapman1
mapman1
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Jun 11, 2012 3:02 am EDT
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I totally disagree, Scam busters New Zealand are the Scam. They wrongfully targeted me and my business and when they realised that they were in the wrong they would not do the right thing and that would be apologise. Instead their ranting increased even though the site owner and one of their members agreed that I was not a scam. They did not like being wrong and took on the role as internet bullies. I was so annoyed at them, I started a website to counteract their misinformation that they continued on with after they kicked me off their website so I could not defend myself any more.
The website is called Whistle Blower Busters and is about when Whistle Blowers turn bad. The website is: http://whistleblowersbusters.webs.com/

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