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Paradise Canyon Vacation / 60 ways to lose $10,000

60 ways to lose $10, 000

1-Paradise canyon Scam - $10, 000 for a travel membership!!!

This Travel Company which claims is not a timeshare, but is charging
$10, 000 to $15, 000 for membership privileges for reduced travel
services which you can find just as cheap or cheaper if you
shop around. Cost is $3, 500 down not refundable and $40 t0 $60
per month for 20 years. There was one call a tele marketer was
saying that a lady refused to sign the contract, don't we all just
love to sign 20 year contracts and another time Noel the manager
was explaining to a tele marketer that Paradise Canyon Vacation
is like a bank and will finance the $10, 000 to $15, 000 membership
fee like a bank loan buying a car. You are getting nothing but a
membership that is all, you still have to pay for any travel expenses.
$3, 500 you could have gone on your vacation, instead it would cost
you $7, 000 to go on that same vacation with Paradise Canyon Vacation,
if you decide to cancell after paying out $3, 500, if not the same
vacation would cost you $13, 500, shopping around is still free.

This is a quote from an actual Paradise Canyon Vacation member,
from a reputable travel site,
if you go to that link, and clik rainman75, you can send him an email asking more information.

http://www.tripadvisor.ca/ShowTopic-..._Columbia.html

7. Rainman75
Fort...
posts: 1

Re: Paradise Canyon Vacations
31 March 2011, 1:24
I got suckered and yes it is a scam! Paradise Canyon Vacations "deals" are no better then anywhere else
and in some cases we found Paradise Canyon Vacation trips to be more expensive then our friends who would
just book through a travel agent.
At the Paradise Canyon Vacation SCAM presentation they constantly tell you how you can get great rates
(like $200/wk) at great places all over the world without blackout dates. Using this company I've never
paid less then $1300/wk!! The best times to travel are ALWAYS BLACKED OUT at Paradise Canyon Vacations!
I travel a lot and I save VERY little using Paradise Canyon Vacations
kerisosh's plug is a direct quote from the sales pitch!
It's all bulls**t and it's bad for you!!

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2-Paradise Canyon Scam - $9700 and go up to $15k

jericho
Senior Member


Joined: Jan 2007
Location: Manchester to Alberta, but now beautiful Nova Scotia!
Posts: 1, 738

... so my wife got a call last week, out of the blue, and to cut
a long story short, we found ourselves attending some kind of
meeting/presentation today at the local golf club.

Paradise Canyon Vacations are apparently headquartered about
Lethbridge (AB) and made it 100% clear they're not a time share
and there was nothing to buy from them... today.

It's essentially a "club"- you pay them x thousand dollars to
join the club, and then you receive vacations/flights/cruises
etc at "net" prices. Some of the examples they gave were
extremely impressive.
It seems they're registered travel agents, so have access to
"net" prices through their sister companies/affiliates- that
include huge holiday condo companies, cruise companies, etc etc.

To be honest, I'm extremely skeptical of this kind of stuff,
and I only went because they promised a $1000 travel cheque.
The presentation was only an hour, so I thought it worth the
risk. However, the sales guy has me very interested...

The club "prices" start at around $9700 and go up to $15k or
so... but you can pay monthly over 20 years and cancel
whenever you want. The basic package, that I'm interested in,
would be around $40 a month.
I've booked an appointment with him to discuss in more detail,
but has anyone every had any experience with this company or
similar ones. For $40 a month, I'm inclined to try it for a
year and see what it's like. We have 2 holidays in mind for
this year and if we can save some money, it'll be worthwhile...

Anyone have any experience with this kind of deal/operation?
My subconscious is screaming it's some kind of scam and it
sounds too good to be true, but at the same time, I'm intrigued...

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Paradise Canyon Scam - asking for $9-15K.

Cookie
Totally Choco Chip

I had a quick look online and find it strange that they deny being timeshare
when asking for $9-15K. They are also members of www.rci.com which is a timeshare
exchange company.

I have nothing against timeshare, in fact we have owned one in Orlando for
8 years - we hold title deeds and own it until we decide to sell it. We enjoy
ours and have vacationed at our home resort a few times and also used it to exchange
through RCI to other resorts in Scotland, Ontario, Massechusettes and are heading
to Maine this summer.

I would question paying out between $9-15k fees and not own anything other than a
membership

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3-Paradise Canyon Scam - 2 quotes come to mind

G77

Joined: Sep 2005
Location: Windsor, ON
Posts: 3, 345

If it's too good to be true...
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Re: Paradise Canyon Scam - Phewwwww...!!!

werlenator
Fort St...
posts: 106
13 June 2011, 22:15

Phewwwww...!!! I just had them call me and I was
going to go to the meeting but some little voice in
my head said "if it's too good to be true
then... you all know the rest!

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4-Paradise Canyon Scam - 2hr movie $10 - 1 hr presentation $10, 000

Paradise canyon Vacation will call and invite you to a free 60 minute presentation
and tell you how they are not calling to sell you anything, is strictly information
only, you cannot buy nothing at the presentation. The truth is they are calling to
sell you a $10, 000 to $15, 000 membership, they won't sell it to you at the
presentation, they will come to your home and try to scam you for $10, 000.
Now if you went to a 2 hour movie, it will only cost you $10 admission plus
popcorn and sft drinks, snacks etc. But you won't have no salesman coming
to your home after the movie. By the way the membership is $3, 500 down not
refundable and $40 to $60 a month for the next 20 years. Just imagine going
to a movie theatre and walking out having to pay $60 a month for the next 20
years, this is what happens if you go to a 1 hour Paradise canyon Vacation
presentation. Choice is yours 2 hour movie $10, 1 hour travel expo presentation
$10, 000 . Where would you put your money?

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5-"50 Ways to Leave Your Lover"

Paradise Canyon Vacation campaign song

-performed by Dave Simon, Noel's right
hand man who sometimes uses his left.

The problem with traveling is
all inside your head
Noel said to me
The $10, 000 answer is easy if you
Write out a cheque logically
I'd like to help you in your struggle
To be free of your timeshare membership
There must be fifty ways
To leave $10, 000

Noel said it's really not my habit
To intrude with free gifts
for attending the 1 hour presentation
Furthermore, I hope my meaning
Won't be lost or misconstrued
that is why we ask you to bring
your spouse or a travel partner
But I'll repeat myself
"because that is what we do"
At the risk of being crude
There must be fifty ways
To leave $10, 000
Fifty ways to lose $10, 000

[CHORUS:]
You Just slip out the back
door of the presentation, Jack
Make a new plan
go to a movie instead, Stan
You don't need to be coy, Roy
hang up the phone when
Paradise Canyon Vacation calls
Just get yourself free
Hop on the bus, Gus
and bring your wallet with you
You don't need to discuss much
tell the salesman no
Just drop off the key, Lee
there are no free gifts to win
And get yourself free

Noel said it grieves me so
To see your wallet empty in such pain
I wish there was something I could do
like rip up your 20 year contract
To make you smile again
I said Noel I appreciate that
And would you please explain
About the fifty ways
To leave $10, 000

Noel said why don't we both
Just attend a presentation tonight
And I believe in the morning
You'll begin to be conned
to see the light
And write out that cheque for $10, 000
And then Noel kissed me
And I realized he probably was right
There must be fifty ways
To leave $10, 000
Fifty ways to lose $10, 000

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6-50 Ways to Leave your Lover, or to Lose your members

Paradise Canyon Vacation Campaign song

-performed by Dave Simon, Noel's right
hand man who sometimes uses his left.

The problem is all inside your service
and the $3, 500 non refundable initial fee
I said to Noel
The $10, 000 answer is listening if you
Ask them to Take out their cheque book logically
I’d like to help you in your struggle
To scam callers, sorry To make a profit
There must be fifty ways
To lose your members

I told Noel it’s really not in
my job description
To advise or ask you to tell
members that the contract
is $40 t0 $60 a month for 20 years
Furthermore, I hope my meaning
Won’t get me fired or written up
But I’ll repeat myself
At the risk of being cool
There must be fifty ways
To lose your members
Fifty ways to lose your members

Just stab them in the back, Jack
Make a big scam, Stan
You don’t need more employees, Roy
Just streamline your staff.
Make a big fuss, Gus
You don’t need to discuss much
Just tack on a fee, Lee
And file for Chapter 11

I said to Noel it grieves me so
To see your empty presentations
I wish there was something I could do
To make you hire more tele marketers
Noel said I appreciate that
And would you please explain
About the fifty ways

I said why don’t we both
Just review your company's motto tonight
And I believe in the morning
You’ll begin to see the light
And then told Noel to treat
tele marketers with respect and give
them more than 1/4% commisssion
And Noel realized I probably was right
There must be fifty ways
To lose your members
Fifty ways to lose your members

Just stab them in the back, Jack
Make a big scam, Stan
You don’t need more employees, Roy
Just streamline your staff.
Make a big fuss, Gus
You don’t need to discuss much
Just tack on a fee, Lee
And file for Chapter 11

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7-Paradise canyon Scam - A few good men

All it takes is a few people to let others know about the
corruption, lies and greed of big powerful money hungry
corporations. Using underpaid tele marketers to try and
rob the innocent of thousands with promises of free gifts
and vacations. Like the Justice League it is a never ending
battle for as soon as one villan is taken down another appears.
Paradise Canyon Vacation for years has been under paying employees
and using scare tactics like calling the police to protect it's
sales. They don't want callers to know that the membership is
$10, 000 to $15, 000 till the salesman arrives at thier home.
These posts were written by jilted employees and people who were
scammed by paradise canyon vacation to help and warn others
not to fall in the same misfortune.

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8-Paradise Canyon - Allgallbladerss eat gaga's ###

Now that Paradise Canyon Vacation is on line on the internet scam sites. Employees like
Allbladerss and gaga come out of the wood word to protect their jobs, Especially Gaga
trying to slander innocent workers whom she accuses of going on line telling the truth,
Noel fired a whole bunch of people like he does every other week, "cleaning house" as
he says, Noel has pissed off many if not hundreds of ex employees including his own
Filipno people. Allgallbalderss and gaga you can both go and eat the ### out of Paradise
Canyon toilets call centre, because your both a piece of ### like the rest of them, gaga
is the biggest turd of them all slandering other employees but gaga didnt mention that Noel
the manager said it was ok for employees to sell stolen xbox, playstaion games as long as
employees got good prices, funny how gaga left that part out Gaga you enjoy trying to scam
innocent people out of $10, 000 dollars, next time you two are on the phone, just tell the
truth and tell the people its $3, 500 down not refundable, and $50 a month for 20 years oh
and don't forgot the lengthy contract they got to sign, Allgallbladerss when you can do this,
then you can tell people to eat your ###, till then you and Gaga keep licking the urinals
at Paradise canyon Vacation call centre.

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9-Paradise Canyon Scam - Be Afraid Be Very Afraid

Paradise Canyon Vacations will sound so nice and
pleasing when they call you during supper and apologize
and swear they are not calling to sell you anything,
its strictly information only, you cant buy nothing
at the presentation and of course leave your money at
home, they will ask you to bring your wife or travel
partner, this way you can't walk away so easily from
the $10, 000 to $15, 000 membership, which is $3, 500
down not refundable and $40 to $60 a month for the
next 20 years, they will try to offer you gifts 2
free night hotel stay and dinner for 2, which nobody
ever receives, Paradise Canyon Vacations hates people
who come for the gifts, the owners call them "roaches",
then why do they offer the gifts and call the people
roaches for attending, there is also the $1, 000 travel
voucher, of course you have to spend $10, 000 to $15, 000
for the membership, membership is all you get, you still
have to pay for the trips, which will cost the same or
more if you shop around. Don't let Paradise Canyon
Vacation scam you.

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10-Paradise Canyon Scam - Bring your own toilet paper

I worked for the call centre at Paradise Canyon vacation
in winnipeg, every week Noel would bring us in the
presentation room and threaten us if we didn't do better
he would "clean house" and fire us. If you saw the bathrooms
you would take getting fired as a blessing. The bathroom
floors were never mopped, Noel would just dump 20 gallons
of water on the floors and there would be 2 inches of water
on the floors, until it dried. Then we had the ants crawling
all over the bathroom floors, rumour has it that they were
Gaga's crabs, the girl who slanders employees on scam.com,
complaining of smell when in fact the smell was coming from
her own yeast infection. The garbage pails were always full
of employees garbage and doughnuts, that would explain all
the ants, the garbage was emptied a good once a month, the
garbage was always 2 feet over the small garbage pails. As
for the bathrooms there was hardly ever any toilet paper,
the employees were using the toilet paper to dry their
hands since the paper towel dispensers were always empty.
If you have to go to the bathroom for a crap you had better
remember to bring your own toilet paper from home.

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11-Paradise Canyon Scam - Bullies Employees

Paradise Canyon Vacation advertises $15 an hour
for 24 hours per week, but it is in reality only
$10 an hour for 20 hours, and only $15 an hour
if you can get 10 leads that night which is next
to impossible. There is alot of favourtism and
those favored employees are given much easier
call list to work on, while others have to work
5 times harder, and if you dont produce enough
you are brought into the presentation room and
given warnings, special employees are protected
with very easy call sheets, Paradise Canyon
don't care about its employees only money,
and the $10, 000 to $15, 000 membership fee they
can get for their supposedly free presentations
from people believing they will receive 2 free
gifts, and Noel the manager and Rod the owner
call people attending the presentations for the
free gifts roaches.

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Paradise Canyon Scam - Harasses Seniors

Paradise Canyon Vacations is harassing seniors trying to make them come to a
supposedly free presentation with 2 free gifts which no one ever receives,
they tell seniors is information only, leave your money at home, when in
reality the membership is $10, 000 to $15, 000, $3, 500 down and $40 to $60
per month for the next 20 years, one female worker told her boss, "shes a
senior 85 and dont travel", the boss told her to sell to her just the same.
Paradise Canyon Vacations just wants your $10, 000 even if you have 1 foot
in the grave. They have no compassion or morals, and should be respecting
seniors instead of conning them and trying to make them come out to a
presentation to con them out of their retirement money.

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12-Paradise Canyon Vacation "can you spare $10, 000?'

Paradise Canyon Vacations tele marketers will call you during supper, offer
you 2 free night stay and dinner for 2, for attending an 1 hour presentation,
tell you to leave your wallet at home, strictly information only, in reality
the membership is $10, 000 to $15, 000 with $3, 500 which is non refundable and
$40 to $60 a month for 20 years, they will tell you "you can't buy nothing at
the presentation" and call you the day before, leave your money at home but
bring a cheque for $10, 000

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13-Paradise Canyon Scam - Cracked Foundations

jeanherself
New Member

Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 1

I have to post. I am from Lethbridge. The real estate
at Paradise Canyon is sliding into the coulees as the
builders did not go down to bedrock on the hills.
Currently you can see 2 of the $350, 000 to $500, 000
house for schedule A sale at $159, 000 and 175, 000.
Schedule A means you are buying as is with no recourse
if the condo/house continues to slip. THESE HOUSES
HAVE CRACKED FOUNDATIONS AS MANY OTHERS HAD AND THERE
IS NO QUICK FIX as I called a structural engineer and
he said they won't touch Paradise due to the numerous
lawsuits. You have to get pilings to go down to bedrock
and each can cost $30, 000 to $50, ooo apiece. You may
need 1 or 4 to stabilize each structure. Go to mls.ca
and get to the Lethbridge listings to view the beautiful
homes on firesale at Paradise Canyon! I looked inmto it
because of the prices. The real estate guys won't even
buy to resale.
PS- The river is the Old Man river not the Milk River.

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14-Paradise Canyon Scam - Dave right hand man with 2 left feet

Noel has a right hand man named Dave who sometimes uses his
left. Some of us worked with dave before at Tele Solutions,
where 1/2 of the closing supervisors collecting credit card information
had served jail time, and this is where Dave came from, and he seems to blend
right in very nicely with his prison tattoos. Our cousin used to work with
Dave on Saturday mornings at Tele Solutions and he remebers Dave coming in
to work drunk like a skunk, and got many leads but once he sobered up
he couldnt do nothing, useless as tits on bull. Dave comes in to work every
other week with a black eye from bar fights, or misses days here and there
when he's on a drinking binge. Is this the best that Noel can do for a right
hand man who sometimes uses his left.If this is the quality of supervisors
we can imagine the quality of the salesmen at the presentations, the sales
pitch should be "leave your money at home but bring a case of two four".

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15-Paradise Canyon Scam - Employee Theft

Paradise canyon Vacation tele marketers are very good in convincing you
that the presewntation is free and leave your money at home, and if you
haven't guess by now, it is a scam. The membership is $10, 000 to $15, 000
but they dont tell you that till the salesman/wo, man comes to your home.
Theft is a daily thing at Paradise canyon Vacation call centre, people
having cell phones stoen is very popular, that is because everyone is on
their cell phones surfing the internet playing games, so there is plenty
of cell phones to be stolen. One person even had his bicycle seat stolen
from his very desk, you cant leave nothing down. The mamanger Noel actually
encourages stealing among his employees, when questioned about Loren selling
stolen xbox, playstation pc games and dvd movies, Noel's reply was
that is is ok as long as employees get good prices, and Dave, Noels right hand
man who sometimes uses his left is Loren's best customer, we all also have
Rob selling stolen $200 sports jerseys for $40, and hsi biggest buyer is Ozzie
a tall skinny balck man from Mts on Osbourne in Winnipeg, buying a jersey a week,
now we also have shady crooked Mts employees trying to scam you out of $10, 000.

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16-Paradise Canyon Scam _ Employees selling and buying stolen goods

Paradise Canyon Vacation employees for years have been enjoying
the benefits of buying stolen goods during work time on
comapany property. When Noel the manager was approached about
Loren selling xbox, playstation, pc games and blu ray movies,
Noel said it was ok as long as employees got good prices.
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Paradise Canyon Scam - Selling stolen laptop for $100

Where else but at Paradise Canyon Vacation call centre can you buy a
brand new stolen laptop for $100 still in the box. It happened with
a tele marketer called Sega, who used to come in everyday dressed
like she was a model walking down the runway. Rather than going to
the store to buy a new laptop she took advantage of Paradise Canyon
vacation employee benefits, and purchased a brane new stolen laptop
for $100, off one of the tele marketers, a big fat guy who was going
to the gym everyday so said Dave, Noel's right hand man who sometimes
uses his left. When Noel the manager was confronted about Loren selling
stolen xbox and dvd movies, Noel said it was ok as long as employees got
good prices Not only can Sega buy stolen brand new laptops still in
the box, she can also buy xbox, playstation, pc games and dvd movies from
Loren, are his stolen movies any good, ask Dave Noel's right hand man who
sometimes uses his left, Dave is Loren's biggest customer. Stolen laptops
xbox games and movies is not all that Paradise Canyon Employees benefits
entitles them too, they can also purchase stolen $200 sports jerseys from
Rob for $40, ask Ozzie an Mts Osbourne winnipeg call centre employee,
he's been buying stolen sports jerseys one of every week for months, and
wears his stolen jerseys with pride. You too can receive employee benefits
and buy stolen laptops, xbox games, dvd movies and stolen sports jerseys,
all you need is a desire to lie to people about free presentations and
scam people out of $10, 000 for memberships.
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Paradise Canyon Scam - Selling stolen sports jerseys

Along with scamming people out of $10, 000 and lying
about free presentations and 2 free gifts. Paradise
Canyon Vacation tele-marketers can get sports jerseys
valued at $200 for $40 to $60, thanks to Rob a tele
marketer in the call centre who has been for years
moon lighting selling stolen jerseys. Is the quality
good? Well just ask Ozzie a tall black man from Mts
on Osbourne in Winnipeg, Noels pet tele marketer
who along with Tyler also gets very easy expo sheets
while the rest of the workers have calls 5 times as
hard. Ozzie has been buying stolen jerseys at the rate
of 1 a week and is very proud to wear his hot jerseys,
Ozzie can afford to buy one very week cause he brags
hows he's making $20 an hour and his girlfriend is
making $35, you think with that kind of money he would
buy store bought sport jerseys. Just goes to show where
your money goes when you pay your Mts bill. As for Paradise
Canyon Vacation, they give it the thumbs up, because when
Noel was approached about the situation he said it was ok
that Loren sells stolen xbox, playstaion, pc games and movies
as long as the employees get good prices. Is this where the
$10, 000 membership fee goes, to pay crooked employees. Dave,
Noels right hand man who sometimes uses his left is
Loren's best customer. If this is the how the call centre
is running I hate to see the 1 hour presentations.
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Paradise canyon Scam - Selling stolen xbox games

Along with scamming people out of $10, 000 and lying
about free presentations and 2 free gifts. Paradise
Canyon Vacation tele-marketers can get net prices
on all their favorite xbox, playstation and wi games,
not to mention dvd hd and blu ray movies. All thanks to
Loren one of their top bookers. When Loren is not
behind bars and at work, he is selling xbox games and pc
games to his top buyer, Dave who is Noels right hand man
and sometimes he uses his left. Paradise Canyon gives
all this the thumbs up, because when Noel was approached
concerning the situation he said "it's ok as long as
employees get good prices", now would you join and
pay $10, 000 membership if the employees and right hand
man are all buying stolen dvds. They should be offering
these dvd movies and xbox games at the presentations at
employee prices, along with the dinner for 2 and the 2
free hotel night stay.

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17-Paradise Canyon Scam - Enormous Upfront Fee

kimcf
New Member

Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 1

Default Re: Paradise Canyon Vacations...
My friends just recently purchased a membership with Paradise Canyon Vacations,
so I thought I would check them out.

This Travel Club sounds the same as every other club out there... enormous
upfront fee and monthly charges for services that are offered on the internet
for free. I cannot believe that there are still Travel Clubs out there with
the introduction of the internet.

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Paradise Canyon Scam - charge up to $15k

el richo
That's what she said!!!

Joined: Jan 2009
Location: Oobie doobie doobie, oobie doobie doobie, woop man, woop man, nick knack noo.


So they offer discounts on holidays, yet charge you up to $15k for the privilege? Sounds
awesome

I'll lend you my bargepole if you pay $4k for postage.

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18-"50 Ways to Leave Your Lover" or "50 ways to lose your members"

50 Ways to Leave your Lover or lose $10, 000

Paradise Canyon Vacation campaign song

-performed by Dave Simon, Noel's right
hand man who sometimes uses his left.

The problem with traveling is
all inside your head
Noel said to me
The $10, 000 answer is easy if you
Write out a cheque logically
I'd like to help you in your struggle
To be free of your timeshare membership
There must be fifty ways
To leave $10, 000

Noel said it's really not my habit
To intrude with free gifts
for attending the 1 hour presentation
Furthermore, I hope my meaning
Won't be lost or misconstrued
that is why we ask you to bring
your spouse or a travel partner
But I'll repeat myself
"because that is what we do"
At the risk of being crude
There must be fifty ways
To leave $10, 000
Fifty ways to lose $10, 000

[CHORUS:]
You Just slip out the back
door of the presentation, Jack
Make a new plan
go to a movie instead, Stan
You don't need to be coy, Roy
hang up the phone when
Paradise Canyon Vacation calls
Just get yourself free
Hop on the bus, Gus
and bring your wallet with you
You don't need to discuss much
tell the salesman no
Just drop off the key, Lee
there are no free gifts to win
And get yourself free

Noel said it grieves me so
To see your wallet empty in such pain
I wish there was something I could do
like rip up your 20 year contract
To make you smile again
I said Noel I appreciate that
And would you please explain
About the fifty ways
To leave $10, 000

Noel said why don't we both
Just attend a presentation tonight
And I believe in the morning
You'll begin to be conned
to see the light
And write out that cheque for $10, 000
And then Noel kissed me
And I realized he probably was right
There must be fifty ways
To leave $10, 000
Fifty ways to lose $10, 000

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50 Ways to Leave your Lover, or to Lose your members

Paradise Canyon Vacation Campaign song

-performed by Dave Simon, Noel's right
hand man who sometimes uses his left.

The problem is all inside your service
and the $3, 500 non refundable initial fee
I said to Noel
The $10, 000 answer is listening if you
Ask them to Take out their cheque book logically
I’d like to help you in your struggle
To scam callers, sorry To make a profit
There must be fifty ways
To lose your members

I told Noel it’s really not in
my job description
To advise or ask you to tell
members that the contract
is $40 t0 $60 a month for 20 years
Furthermore, I hope my meaning
Won’t get me fired or written up
But I’ll repeat myself
At the risk of being cool
There must be fifty ways
To lose your members
Fifty ways to lose your members

Just stab them in the back, Jack
Make a big scam, Stan
You don’t need more employees, Roy
Just streamline your staff.
Make a big fuss, Gus
You don’t need to discuss much
Just tack on a fee, Lee
And file for Chapter 11

I said to Noel it grieves me so
To see your empty presentations
I wish there was something I could do
To make you hire more tele marketers
Noel said I appreciate that
And would you please explain
About the fifty ways

I said why don’t we both
Just review your company's motto tonight
And I believe in the morning
You’ll begin to see the light
And then told Noel to treat
tele marketers with respect and give
them more than 1/4% commission
And Noel realized I probably was right
There must be fifty ways
To lose your members
Fifty ways to lose your members

Just stab them in the back, Jack
Make a big scam, Stan
You don’t need more employees, Roy
Just streamline your staff.
Make a big fuss, Gus
You don’t need to discuss much
Just tack on a fee, Lee
And file for Chapter 11

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19-Paradise Canyon Scam - Gaga has crabs or is that dinner for 2

Now that the truth comes out about Paradise Canyon Vacation employees selling
stolen xbox, playstation pc games and blu ray movies, the employees like gaga
come out of the wood word to protect their jobs, Gaga you can go and eat the
### out of Paradise Canyon toilets call centre, because your a piece of ###
like the rest of them, I sat next to this person your trying to slander and he
was a perfect gentleman, and even though he rode to work, he changed his clothes
and brought spare clothes, as for mental the only mental people is you for protecting
Paradise Canyon Vacation it's funny Gaga how you didnt mention the stolen sports
jerseys and stolen xbox games and blu ray movies and when our cousin's bike seat
was stolen he mentioned to Noel about Loren selling stolen movies and xbox games
and Noel the manager told our cousin it was ok as long as employees got good
prices, gaga why did you leave out employees selling and buying stolen goods Gaga
how much did Noel pay you to slander our cousin, or is Gaga really Noel impersonating
an employee to try and save his company and sales Gaga you can lick my ### and let
me crap in your mouth, look at you trying to scam innocent people out of $10, 000
dollars, next time your on the phone, just tell the truth and tell the people its
$3, 500 down not refundable, and $50 a month for 20 years oh and don't forgot the
lengthy contract they got to sign, when you can do this, then you can talk ### about
people, till then keep licking the urinals at Paradise Canyon Vacation call centre.
You didnt quit gaga Noel fired your ### couldnt you couldnt produce bookings, and Gaga
those ants in the ladies bathroom floor, those are not ants, those were your crabs, were
those crabs the free dinner for two you were offering callers on the phone to attend the
free presentation, Gaga go see a doctor you skank.

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20-Paradise canyon Scam - Give me Noel NOW!!!

When Paradise Canyon Vacation calls, demand to speak to
Noel, he is the manager, and do not take no for an answer.
They can call and harass people during supper every night
with promises of supposedly free gifts. As for the do not
call list won't do nothing, because the tele marketers
dial all the numbers by hand. The call list may never even
be handed in since people come and go daily. When you speak
to Noel tell Noel you know that the membership is $10, 000
to $15, 000 and that you will not give him $3, 500 down non
refundable and then another $40 to $60 a month for the next
20 years. Noel and his boss Rod at the Calgary office hate
people coming to the presentation just for the free gifts,
they call them "roaches". Noel even fires his own people
Filipinos if they don't give him enough leads, even Brian a
Filipino who was with Noel for 4 years. The man is mean,
heartless and cares only about money, and we think he cares
about Edna a short Filipino we call Snooki who has been with
him for years, and is given special rebook sheets and has
Debbie and catherine wiping her ### finishing up her calls
with confirmation leads. Noel back stabs his own Filipino
people but kisses Tyers and Ozzzie's ###, one night Noel
gave Ozzie 2 expo sheets while other workers had to do all
the hard calls, and Tyler gets expo sheets every night, we
wonder who's nose is browner Noels, Tyler's or Ozzie's. How
can you trust a company who's manager turns on his own people
in the name of greed and money.

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21-Paradise Canyon Scam - Harasses Seniors

Paradise Canyon Vacations is harassing seniors trying to make them come to a
supposedly free presentation with 2 free gifts which no one ever receives,
they tell seniors is information only, leave your money at home, when in
reality the membership is $10, 000 to $15, 000, $3, 500 down and $40 to $60
per month for the next 20 years, one female worker told her boss, "shes a
senior 85 and dont travel", the boss told her to sell to her just the same.
Paradise Canyon Vacations just wants your $10, 000 even if you have 1 foot
in the grave. They have no compassion or morals, and should be respecting
seniors instead of conning them and trying to make them come out to a
presentation to con them out of their retirement money.

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Paradise Canyon Scam - Bullies Employees

Paradise Canyon Vacation advertises $15 an hour
for 24 hours per week, but it is in reality only
$10 an hour for 20 hours, and only $15 an hour
if you can get 10 leads that night which is next
to impossible. There is alot of favourtism and
those favored employees are given much easier
call list to work on, while others have to work
5 times harder, and if you dont produce enough
you are brought into the presentation room and
given warnings, special employees are protected
with very easy call sheets, Paradise Canyon
don't care about its employees only money,
and the $10, 000 to $15, 000 membership fee they
can get for their supposedly free presentations
from people believing they will receive 2 free
gifts, and Noel the manager and Rod the owner
call people attending the presentations for the
free gifts roaches.

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22-Paradise Canyon Scam - Hat Trick

A hat trick in sports is when a player gets 3 goals in a game
at Paradise Canyon Vacation a hat trick is when you get called
3 times in the same night. Promising you gifts to attend the
presentation and reassuring you that its not time share and
free when the membership is $10, 000 to $15, 000 and $3, 500 down
not refundable and yes the best part $40 t0 $60 a month for
20 years. Don't let Ozzie, Wendy and Edna get the poweplay on
you. save your $10, 000 and put them in the penalty box where
these scamers belong.
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Paradise Canyon Vacation and The Wizard of Ozzie Osbourne

Paradise Canyon Vacation has an MTS employee, from the Osbourne call centre location in Winnipeg
who calls himself ozzie, a tall skinny black anorexic man who is making $20 an hour, and his
girlfriend $35 an hour so he brags at the Paradise canyon Vacation Call Centre, yet he comes to
Paradise Canyon for minimum wage to rip off people for $10, 000, this is evil greed $55 an hour
between them both and he needs to come rip off innocent people and lie to them, we beleive that
Noel is paying Ozzie under the table because on several occasions we have seen Noel give Ozzie
several $20, Ozzie claims that its his pay and that he has no bus money to get home, really
he's making $20 an hour from MTS and his girlfriend $35 working with xrays and Ozzie has no
bus money to get home, maybe if Ozzie wouldn't buy so many stolen nba and hockey jerseys from
Rob, Ozzie may just have bus money to get home. Rob has been selling stolen sports jerseys at
the Paradise Canyon Vacation Winnipeg all on company time and property call centre for years,
but since Ozzie has arrived business has been booming, and what does Noel say about all this,
when Noel was approached about Loren selling stolen xbox, playstation pc games and blu ray
movies, Noel the manager said it was ok as long as employees get good prices. When Mts was
called they said that they didn't care what their employees did off company time, and no
supervisor even called back.Yet Mts wants us to give our personal information to their
employees buying stolen sports jerseys at the rate of 1 per week. Now you know where your
money goes when you pay your Mts bill it goes to employees like Ozzie buying stolen sports
jerseys so how can you trust a company who hires shady Mts employees and people selling
stolen sports jerseys, and not to mention Loren selling his stolen xbox, playstaion pc games
and blu ray movies so when you join Paradise Canyon Vacation and pay $10, 000 membership fee,
now you know where your money is going, membership does have its privileges but only for
employess of Paradise Canyon Vacation call center.


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53-Paradise Canyon Scam - Wendy The Horrible

Beware of Wendy The Horrible, she is Paradise Canyon Vacation's top
con artist and dont care how many people she scams out of $10, 000,
regardless of age. All she is after is commission and inviting people
to the supposedly free presentations. She is constantly crying and
complaining when not enough people show up for the presentations so she
can make her commission. One night Wendy had a fight with the matriarch
of the Catherine clan, and verified her own lead, this lead to a fight
with Noel, Wendy was so horrible she told Noel the manager "you need me
more than I need you", not only is Wendy horrible but she is stingy and
all talk no action, next night she came back to work on her knees begging
Noel for her job back. She has a very horrible high pitched voice and when
she is working she is the only person you can hear in the room. Her voice
is so shrill that she can awaken the dead, . Be very aware when Wendy calls,
she is very cunning and manipulative and is very good at conning people to
come to the presentation. Paradise Canyon tele marketers dont have a heart,
all they want is to con you so they can get their commission.

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Paradise Canyon Vacation - the 3 faces of Eve now adding Brittney

Paradise Canyon Vacation is so shady that even their tele marketers
are liers and dishonest. If you get a call from a woman claiming to
be Jenna or Ella, her real name is Edna, all the same person using 3
names to try to fool people and rob them out of $10, 000, telling them
the presentation is free and will receive 2 free gifts, only 1 woman
in over a year said she received the free hotel stay, but had travel
to Florida, from central Canada to the other side of the USA, and had
to pay the airfare, you cant pick and choose where to stay, a free hotel
stay may cost thousands of dollars in air fare, but Jenna, Ella or
Edna all the same person wont tell you this, she is greedy and wants
you to go to the so called free presentation and be conned out of
$10, 000, she is a good con artist so be very aware. Update now it seems
that Edna aka Eve has added a new name she is now going by Britney
so now when Ella, Jenna or Britney calls you, it is really Edna.
A short filipino lady trying to sound like a jersey shore poser,
every body just calls her snooki.

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23-Paradise Canyon Scam - Hates children

Paradise Canyon Vacation hates when people attending the presentations
bring their children, yet they want to charge $10, 000 to $15, 000 for
a travel membership and alot families travel with children, and they
don't even tell you its $10, 000 till the salesman arrives at your house.
Contradictory to what is said at the presentation. Paradise Canyon
vacation should at least make accomodations for the children, rent a room
for them supervised with an adult. They want the childrens moms and dads
to fork over $10, 000 but don't care about the children. Noel the manager
says that the children disrupt the presentations and the salemen cant do
thier jobs. Do you really want to hand over $10, 000 to $15, 000 to travcvel
company that hates children, $3, 500 down and $40 to $60 a month for the
next 20 years. Do you really want to pass down the membership fees down
to your children when they grow up.

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24-Paradise Canyon Scam - He Shoots! He Scams!!!

Paradise Canyon Vacation tele marketers love to call
oops, scam people during hockery games. Because they
know that everyone will be at home watching the game.
Especally Wendy the Horrible who is very good at
scamming people and even called Noel the manager
to brag how she got 14 leads the night of a major
hockey game.. Don't be fooled or scammed the
membership is $10, 000 to $15, 000. $3, 500 down not
refundable and $40 to $60 a month for $20 years, if
that is not timeshare then tell me what is. Tell those
tele marketers from Paradise Canyon you don't need
their 2 free night hotel stay and dinner for 2, and
that $1, 000 gift voucher. Don't let Paradise Canyon
Vacation get the power play on you.
Put Noel and Dave his right hand man and who sometimes
he uses his left in the penalty box, remember all they
want is to lure you to the supposedly free presentation
to scam you out of $10, 000, don't sign any contracts
or let Paradise Canyon sales people into your home.

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25-Paradise Canyon Scam - I would go nowhere near it

Aviator

Premium Member

Joined: Sep 2008
Location: CYXX
Posts: 5, 223

Check out the BBB, there are two complaints on there
about them. I would not join anything to pay for
something I can do myself.
My buddy registered himself as a travel agent so he
could guide two tours a year
(it is a free vacation for him).

Myself, I would go nowhere near it.

http://www.vacationtimesharerentals...n-Golf-Resort/

You may want to do a bit more research before shelling
out any cash.

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Paradise Canyon Scam - Don't do it

Printer
Dumbo Wafflebutt


Joined: Sep 2006
Location: Kelowna
Posts: 1, 976

Don't do it. My father ended up being suckered into joining a
"holiday club" where he could enjoy countless benefits and
reduced price vacations all over the world.
The deals they were offering on their website were nothing
more than any average joe could get if they shopped around
and in the end all he got was a nice looking membership pack
which cost something like 5000 quid

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26-Paradise Canyon Scam - I need a hero

Don't we all wish that there was someone who could make
Paradise canyon vacation stop calling during supper so
we can enjoy our dinners. We need a hero especially during
Hockey Night In canada when those pesky Paradise Canyon
Vacation tele marketers just won't stop dialing our numbers
on Sunday night. It's gonna take a superman to flew down to
that Winnipeg call centre and disconnect all those phone
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30-Paradise Canyon Scam - Justice League

By now you probably realized that a group of men and women in
spandex tights are trying to take down the Cold Warriors a group
of ice themed super villians salesmen and tele marketers working
under Paradise Canyon Vacation, and in so doing making people
aware what is going inside Paradise Canyon Vacation with the
inside scoop, and what really happens at the presentations,
with testimonials from people who have been scammed. The
management of paradise Canyon Vacation don't want you the public
to know, that the membership fee is actually $10, 000 to $15, 000
with $3, 500 down non refundable and $40 to $60 a month for 20
years.They have tele markers call you and swear till they are blue
in the face that the presentation is free and that you cant buy
nothing and leave your money at home. This is all a scam the same
scam used by tele solutions when selling magazines, they will call
and tell you 'im not calling to sell you anything" but then pass
you on to their supervisor who will try and scam you for over $1000
in magazines. "i'm not calling to sell you anything", that is
because someone else will. They wont sell you nothing at the
presentation because Paradise Canyon Vacation sales people will come
to your home. Noel the manager even brags how good they are at
ripping peoeple off, and claims that they can get 9/10 people to fork
over $10, 000. This is a scam, the tele markers should tell the people
"we are calling to sell you a $10, 000 membership", and not lie. As for
the free gifts, you dont get those till after you filled out forms with
your information, and then wait 2-3 weeks in the mail, from what I
heard many people have told the tele marketers that they did not receive
the free gifts. Just like telesolutions who will not send you their $5
watch so described by JD the room manager, which they claim is a $650
diamond watch just so you will pay the $1, 000 magazine fee. The watch
arrives after 2 weeks because you only have 10 days to cancell your credit
card payment. Paradise canyon Vacation will also give you a $1, 000 gift
voucher towards the $10, 000 to $15, 000 membership. There are too many
services all around for free and you can get the same prices and even lower
and better if you just shop around. You work too hard for your money to let
travel companies and magazine publishers rip you off.

Together we can make people more aware with knowledge and knowing is
the first part of winning any battle, we have compiled a list of
informative blogs from people who have been called, tele marketers and
members who have been scammed. Paradise canyon Vacation is fighting back
by sending out their dragons to take down our blogs, so please help
us and spread the word, they mostly call people in British Columbia,
Alberta. Manitoba and soon trying to Scam Ontario, calls are in the
evenings. For your entertainment you can check out these pictures
/link removed/

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31-Paradise canyon Scam - Justice League Assemble

It seems that the Knights Of Paradise have joined forces with
the Justice League and not only do they have to deal with the
dragon Paradise Canyon Vacation, but now has a team they have to
contend with its cousin the 3 headed hydra scam.com. This 3 headed
hydra scam.com is working very closely with Paradise canyon vacation
to take down man, woman or child who dare to venture and post
anything negative about Paradise Canyon Vacation, all posts against
the dragon Paradise canyon Vacation have been removed, all but
one post slandering and hurting innocent employees with malicious
lies. Scam.com is supposed to protect people from scam corporations
out there who lie and rip people off, and not to slander innocent
employees. We need your help to take down the dragon and the hydra,
please if you see any scam links about Paradise Canyon Vacation send
the links to all your knights, fair maidens, friends and family,
together we can slay the dragon and his cousin the hydra and help
people so they dont get scammed $10, 000 to $15, 000 for a travel
membership which is $3, 500 down non refundable, and imprisonment
in a dark dungeon for 20 years till the $40 to $60 a month has been
paid in full.

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32-Paradise Canyon Scam - Justice League Reassemble

The knights of paradise along with the Justice Leage
shall not stop till they take down the walls of Rod
and Noel's tele marketing castle and break the
shackles and free all the enslaved tele marketers,
even the rich governement social workers like Darcy
and Ms Soldier, they will not even leave behind shady
crooked MTS employees like Ozzie who has been buying
stolen sports jerseys from Rob, they will even break
the shackles and free Loren who has been selling
stolen xbox, playstaion, pc games and blu ray
movies. But they will leave Noel in chains to rot in
the dungeon, for when he was approached about Loren
selling stolen xbox games, he said it ok as long as
employees got got prices, joining Noel to rot and
shackled will be his right hand man Dave who sometimes
uses his left, who is also Loren's biggest customer.
It seems that the dragon Paradise Canyon Vacation and
its cousin the 3 headed hydra scam.com have joined forces
with Cerebus the 3 headed guard dog of Hades aka Complaints
Board.com, which is now guarding the gates and not allowing
people to post anything negative about Paradise Canyon vacation.
All posts get a message saying that it will first be reviewed
by the administrator and then never gets posted, seldom do you
]see the message "Your complaint has been added successfully!",
Please warn everyone you know, the memebership fee is $10, 000
to $15, 000, with $3, 500 non refundable and $40 to $60 a month
for 20 years. They won't tell you this at the presentation,
only when the salesman arrives at your home witht he lengthy
contract to sign. Help us in our struggle against the Dragon,
hydra and now Cerebus aka https://www.complaintsboard.com, For your
entertainment you can check out these pictures at
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27-Paradise Canyon Scam - I would say watch out

wannaskyline
New Member

Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 2

Actually. I have been doing some research of my own. I got this call from these
guys last week. Becasue I grew up around the Lethbridge I was quite curious when
they told me their name. I asked flat out if they were affiliated with the
Lethbridge Paradise Canyon and the lady on the phone stumbbled to give me an
answer. That is where I started being skeptical. I asked them where they are
from and the lady told me she was calling from Winnipeg Manitoba. But the area
code on the phone number was a 403(southern alberta area code)

The Paridise Canyon in Lethbridge is a VERY nice place. Yes they have had some
problems with buildings and even part of their course sliding into the Milk River.
But they try to have that fixed up asap and they are very professional. Yes they have
an RCI timeshare system and on their website they even sell vacations. They call there
travel section of the company Paradise Canyon Travel. NOT PARADISE CANYON VACATIONS.

I just got the confirmation email and it looks cheap. They have photo shopped Paradise
Canyons Logo onto it and it looks bad. If you go to the actual paradise canyon website
it looks nice. Do you actually think that a company with such a good reputation around
their community would make up such a crappy email when they have obviously spent good
money on a nice well done website. I dont think so.

This Paradise Vacations company, I would gather, is no better than one of those lame
Vacation Faxes that comes across the machine once a month.
I wouldnt do it... would you?

In closing haha. If you are ever in Lethbridge give Paradise canyon a try.
especially if you are a golfer. Very nice. The the housing area is clean and and cookie
cutter houses adds a nice feel for the community they are trying to uphold. But this
other "vacations company" I would say watch out. I am going to call the actual
Paradise Canyon tomorrow to find out more info and I will post another novel for you.
HAHA Cheers.

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Paradise Canyon Scam - giving them a miss

Zoe Bell
bored desk monkey


Joined: Apr 2007
Location: TORONTO- yay!!!
Posts: 2, 480


Well if that's the quality of their sales team I'll be giving them a miss

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28-Paradise Canyon Scam - Is Edna Noel's woman?????

Is Edna Noel's woman? That is the question all are asking
at the Paradise Canyon Vacation call center in Winnipeg. It
seems that Noel has been firing his own people Filipinos
even Brian who has been with Noel for 3 years. But Noel is
protecting Edna, giving Edna easy rebooks, and expo sheets.
Noel even has Catherine and especially Debbie the supervisors
making certain that Edna and her friend Laura are taken care
of, Edna doesn't have to tell callers that the supervisor will
call them back, she raises her hand and Debbie or catherine
come running to close the lead and give the confirmation
number, while other tele marketers lose leads becuase people
dont answer the return calls. Edna brags about her $1, 000
commission in less than 6 months, but she has Catherine and
Debbie wiping her ### and wiping Laura's ### to ensure sales
and not having missed calls. paradise Canyon Vacation does
alot of favourtism while other call agents work 5 times harder.
It's unusual that Noel has fired just about all the female
Filipino tele marketers but Edna, If I was Noel's wife I
would be questioning Noel as to why Debbie and Catherine are
wiping Edna's ### guaranteeing her sales, and why Noel is firing
his own Filipino people.

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29-Paradise Canyon Scam - is it worth my while

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