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This guy calls himself an attorney? I heard their ad on a radio station and I called about my mortgage and HELOC and spoke with Frank Degiles who promised me Paul Lucas would be able to make contact with the respective attorneys representing the lenders and could save my home from foreclosure and renegotiate my loans.

Bottom line is they collected my money, $2, 500.00 and all my documents with all my financial information and never even bothered to make contact with either lender. I called to find out about my file and they passed me to Eric Sullivan - what a piece of work this guy is. I asked to speak to Paul Lucas and Sullivan told me I couldn't talk to him, nor could I leave a message for him and he hung up on me. I have called numerous times and left messages for Paul Lucas and Eric Sullivan, I have written two letters to Paul Lucas demanding my money and my documents back. To this day I have never gotten a response. I will not be their victim!

I have made a formal complaint with the State Bar of California, with the California Attorney General, with the District Attorney, HUD and I have contacted the police and the FBI. If you are a victim of these ###, I urge you to file complaints with any or all of the agencies listed above.

Notobeingavictim
Encino, California
U.S.A.

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DONEWBARTELLSTORIES
Battle Creek, US
Dec 26, 2014 1:07 pm EST

No Bartell I did NOT author this. I just found this site. But thanks for the proof of you slandering, harassing, stalking, etc... me!

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PaulV8
, US
Mar 05, 2011 1:34 am EST

Furthermore, this nonsense from April Kelley really has nothing to do with Lucas Law Center being a scam. NOTHING. It seems that the only thing is April Kelley pushing her own agenda. So, if anyone cares about the lameness of Ms. Kelley and her conspiracies, do visit http//cybersoup.com which lays it out very succinctly or http://citizensjustice.org.

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PaulV8
, US
Feb 14, 2010 4:05 pm EST

APRIL KELLEY, the TRUE poster of the above information is a mental defective from Battle Creek, MICHIGAN. She and her equally defective husband EDWARD F. KELLEY go on sites like these to libel innocent people. Lucas Law Center has nothing to do with any of her ridiculously obscene ramblings. She just tries to tie everything together to serve her own sick purposes in expanding her pathetic defamation.

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NetMenZ
, US
Jan 01, 2010 6:00 pm EST

This lady seems to be right that the LucasLawCenter was developed and is hosted by Jay Bartell who is very closely tied to the consumer advocate Judd Mcilvain as she does state on her site oiagent.

(Note Jays last name is not Bertell, that was his birth name that he changed in his 20s and Mrs. Kelley's last name is with 2 e's not 1.. sorry)

Check out what Monty Roberts states about Jay Bartells extortion against him: http://www.montyroberts.com/news_media_resources_cj.html

This is not listed on the above site www.oiagent.com, but it should be...

Mrs. Kelley claims that Jay Bartell was to reprogram her site then after he changing the contract he would not let her out of the contract nor refund her money, plus Jay Bartell emailed her (email is on the site!) stating that he was going to take her existing software and sell it, which it appears that he did... because the last email that he sends states that he no longer has her software? WHAT!? Maybe Judd does not know this part, but it does appear he was copy furnished the emails. And Mrs. Kelley claims that she did tell Judd... not certain what to think, but that seem crocked!

She also claims J took out a LIKE domain of hers (Kelley's is oiagent.com) and Jays is oiagentS.com... So I looked up the IP info and sure enough this appears to be RIGHT!

Take a LOOK!:

April Kelley's site: oiagent.com IP 66.96.134.79

Jay Bartell's claimed site (which I say is TRUE!) oiagentS.com IP 208.71.169.20

NOW SEE THE REST OF THE INFO:
Mrs. Kelley’s software was reprogrammed right before they were to launch to pay Jay Bartell to this email through PayPal j@winningdesigns.com. Jay claimed that he did not have any association to this email/company, yet the PayPal transactions prove otherwise (printscreens are on the site at: http://oiagent.com/extortion-roberts-kelley-etc.html )

OK, so follow me (and verify at: http://centralops.net/co/ ):

... LUCASLAWCENTER.com's IP is 208.71.169.20
AND WinningDesigns.com's IP is 208.71.169.20
Judd Mcilvain's TroubleShooterJudd.com's IP is 208.71.169.25 (this site has ads up against the Kelleys and others? NOT PROFESSIONAL!)
--- TroubleShooterJud.com's IP is 208.71.169.25
and CyberSoup.com's IP is 208.71.169.20 (this is the company that Jay Bartell and his partner Ginger Marnin (SP?) owned, that Mrs. Kelley was introduced to by Judd Mcilvain and stated that she thought that she was dealing with and come to find out it has been dissolved over 3 years. Which she verified and posted their response on her site from the state attorney office NV (I think)?)

the site that the site oiagent claims Jay stated that he was a "hit man" was 231club.com of which this IP is 208.71.169.20
The Club231.com lists Domain Name: CLUB231.Com the Name Server: NS1.CYBERSOUP.COM and Name Server: NS2.CYBERSOUP.COM
She also lists michaelharries.com IP of 208.71.169.20

Jay's "wife" and partner has a site: gingermarin.com IP 208.71.169.23

You get the idea and yes the list can go on and on!
MORE DETAILS:
Ok this email: j@winningdesigns.com belongs to Jay Bartell and many of his sites list it. THE MAIN SITE IS CyberSoup.com, of which Jay Bartell openly admits to owning and placing malicious content about various people including Mrs. Kelley on it, here is the domain info for this site (after I will list the info for LucasLawCenter and NOTICE the EMAIL ADDRESSES!)

Domain name: cybersoup.com

Registrant Contact:
Bijou Entertainment
J Bartell ()

Fax:
P.O. Box 6387
Pine Mountain, CA 93222
US

Administrative Contact:
Bijou Entertainment
J Bartell (contact@winningdesigns.com) ++++++++++++++++
+1.[protected] +1.[protected]
Fax:
P.O. Box 6387
Pine Mountain, CA 93222
US

Technical Contact:
Bijou Entertainment
J Bartell (contact@winningdesigns.com)
+1.[protected] +1.[protected]
Fax:
P.O. Box 6387
Pine Mountain, CA 93222
US

Status: Locked

Name Servers:
ns1.cybersoup.com
ns2.cybersoup.com

Creation date: 15 May 1996 04:00:00
Expiration date: 16 May 2010 04:00:00

NOW VIEW THE Domain name: lucaslawcenter.com

Registrant Contact:
lucaslawcentre
NA NA ()

Fax:
920irvine ave suit b102
new port beach ca, CA 92663
US

Administrative Contact:
NA
Paul Lucas (j@winningdesigns.com) +++++++++++++++++++
+1.[protected] +1.[protected]
Fax: +1.[protected]
lucaslawcentre
920irvine ave suit b102
new port beach ca, CA 92663
US

Technical Contact:
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Paul Lucas (paull@refidecline.com)
[protected]
Fax: [protected]
lucaslawcentre
920irvine ave suit b102
new port beach ca, CA 92663
US

Status: Locked

Name Servers:
dns1.lucaslawcenter.com
dns2.lucaslawcenter.com

Creation date: 04 Jun 2008 18:33:00
Expiration date: 04 Jun 2011 18:33:00

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NetMenZ
, US
Jan 01, 2010 1:11 pm EST

Sorry, maye this time my attachment with Mr. Mcilvain appearing on the front page of TroubleShooterJudd.com will come through? If not, please visit the site that I found this at: www.oiagent.com and best of luck to all of you.

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NetMenZ
, US
Jan 01, 2010 1:08 pm EST

I just found a site www.oiagent.com - I attached the jpg file from this site that shows the archived LucasLawCenter.com with Scam Tips and with the CONSUMER ADVOCATE Judd Mcilvain appearing on the front page. The site make connection that Judd also supported this Law Firm directly by linking to this complaint concerning Mr. Mcilvain and the LucasLawCenter: /URL removed/ ... This site claims that the "webmaster", developer and host of the site LucasLawCenter.com is Mr. Jay Bertell (maybe Bartel, Bartell, I guess he has MANY name - so not certain what is his real name?) This man supposedly SCAMMED this site's President April Kelly AND the consumer advocate Judd Mcilvain that referred her to this J fellow will NOT help her against his scams against her. I found a forum in which it stated that Mr. Mcilvain also did radio shows on this firm to endorse them, plus Judd Mcilvains site www.TroubleShooterJudd.com (a site that Jay hosts and owns the domain of) links or links back to one another (something like that, not certain?) Anyway, the story goes that Judd Mcilvain recommended his hostmaster and "friend" Jay Bertell to this women with a disabled son who wanted to make an online company (not certain what the site was suppose to be thou, maybe insurance?) crazy dramma... anyhoo... this man supposedly stole this sites (meaning oiagent, Mrs. April Kelly) copyrighted software and SOLD IT TO THE HIGHEST BIDDER and Judd will not step in, nor acknowledges that he recommended Jay to this woman. AND THE SITE ALSO SHOWS THIS MAN HAS A GUN IN ONE OF THE TOP PHOTOS AND CLAIMS HE IS A HIT MAN! Or maybe he was a hit man? Anyway Mrs. Kelly found other Jay hosted and owned sites that alarmed her and when she tried to questions Mr. Mcilvain, he refuses to contact her back! And get this Jay supposedly claims he knows who killed JFK or something like that... so confusing... anyway this chap has conned many even the famous horse whisperer Monty Roberts or which he was convicted of extortion with the help of an FBI tapping of Jays extortion against Mr. Roberts! Also there have MANY WIPO cases against Mr. Bertell for internet extortion and uses domains slander to accomplish this (not to mention some of the cases he is using FALSE names like Bill Keiths)... This is sooooo crazy! I am still reading all the info, so I am not certain I have this all right, but it as close as I know at this point. Anyone know more about this?

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exMC3SrModerator
Hot Springs, US
May 11, 2009 3:19 pm EDT

Goodluck to both of you. Let us know what happens. It would be a great power of example to people afraid to stand up to these corporations.

Cheers,

Dominick

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dambuster
, US
May 11, 2009 3:11 pm EDT

I have also filed a complaint with the CA state bar and the Dept. of Real Estate. The Bar now has an active investigation.

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Jae
fontana, US
Mar 05, 2009 2:48 pm EST

I will be contacting all of the above. I have been put through to ringer with Lucas Law Center and am willing to do whatever I need to do to make it known that this is a fraudulent company.