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C.R. England Accident

first incident that cr England proclame as a accident which is not true because what happen was I was backing in a spot at truck stop in CA and after I was done another driver stated that I scratch his bumper which it looks like a minor scratche tha driver might have before me and try to blame me for it, so I told my safety department that I am not taken that in consideration or I will fight and safety stated they will fixed it

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C.R. England Almost killed

I was driving 35 south in Dallas Texas. I was in my far right lane ahead of the CR England truck. The truck caught up and was now driving next to me. I couldn't believe what I was experiencing. This 18 wheeler was coming over on me. I got on my horn and breaks and the truck never, never even made an effort to move back over in it's lane. Thank God, I weren't still next to the guardrail I would have been crush. I was able to steer over pop the curve and drive the curve on the freeway until the truck past. I had no way of explaining how I made it accept by the Grace of God. It has been three days now and every time, I think about the incident I cry and shake. I have not heard anything from no one since I have spoke with Amanda the manager at CR England. I feel in my heart the driver had to been drunk, high, half of sleep or just didn't care. I honestly, want a letter of apology. I pray before to long that I can think, visualize, and talk about the incident. I feel, I will never have any justice as too why but I do want my sanity back. My whole life past and family past in front of ne before I could blink. All I saw was darkness. Although, I weren't hurt, my soul and mind is still wondering what if?

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rene2135
Whittier, US
Feb 21, 2012 9:44 pm EST

THIS COMPANY IS WITHHOLDING MY LAST PAYCHECKS, THEY CLAIM I HAVE TO WAIT 45 DAYS, THIS MONEY I WORKED FOR AND THEY HAVE NO RIGHT TO HOLD IT. i TRIED TO MAKE MY LEASE WORK BUT THEY PUT ME IN A BAD SPOT. HOW CAN THEY GET AWAY WITH THIS?WILL NEED TO PURSUE CAUSE I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE.

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Apr 30, 2014 9:21 pm EDT

THERE IS A YOUNG LADIES THAT WORKS IN THE BACK SHE IS SO MAD AND SHE TALK TO THE WORKERS LIKE DOGS. BUT WHEN HER BOSS COME AROUND SHE IS A DIFFERNT PERSON NOT READY TO BE A LEADER MARYSA

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robcr11
Vancouver, US
Jul 23, 2013 3:21 pm EDT

CR England doesn't always hire the best drivers. Most likely a half asleep driver. I although drove for 30 years and pulled out to pass and put a car on the shoulder. I was hitting fifteen hours behind the wheel. He was riding my blind spot, me half asleep, could have been bad. He must have done a lot of driving as he just waved when he passed like it was no big deal. Stay alert around trucks as most drivers easy hit 15 hours every day behind the wheel as we are forced to.

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C.R. England Unprofessional

My husband has been driving for a year now on the dedicated southern California Walmart fleet. This company is by far the worst most unprofessional environment I have ever seen. As a truck driver he has a dispatch office. These people need Mental Help. Three of the dispatchers especially, Janie, Jackie and Jenn. I feel for anyone who has to deal with these women. They will send him wrong times of his drives and never take responsibility. Just the other day the woman Jackie in the same sentence told him he had to be somewhere to pick up at 3pm then said he didn't have any work today. They often hang up on him and ruin the whole one day he gets off a week because they can't get there business together. DO NOT SPEND THE MONEY TO ENROLL IN THE SCHOOL AND WORK FOR THIS COMPANY. They pay you nothing and you are forced to deal with some of the most incompetent people on the planet. I had a miscarriage and they wouldn't give him time off to even come see me in the hospital. The dispacthers are cruel and often tell him to get to truck because he has a load, then once he drives there, which takes him 2 hours, he will call and they will LAUGH and say he doesn't have one. They blame all there mistakes on the drivers, it's pathetic.

I can not stress enough, go look somewhere else, i'm saving you from so much stress and anger. CREngland is a joke.

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C.R. England Charged me for the load not being drop off in the right place

I went to work for CR England Oct 2 2011. I went through the training and was on the road with a trainer and another person in training on the truck with in a week. On Oct. 27 2011 I was kicked by the trainer and was yelled at. Was cussed out at about my sexuality. The trainer then left me and the other person in a truck stop in In. CR England then sent us to Salt Lake UT and did nothing for us. We sat for a week waiting to get back on a truck. I was made to feel it was my fault and they didn't care. I was put back with a new trainer on Nov. 5, 2011. He was very helpful and nice. By Nov 9, 2011 I was in gray In for more training. On Nov 14 2011 I was givin a load and truck for my first hall. The weight was 40, 000 lbs. When I started up the rocky mts I found out my truck had no breaks. I called it in over and over from Nov 15 to the 16 2011. I had only the breaks on my trailer. On Nov 15 2011 5 pm they told me to wait and someone would come get my load and give me a lighter load. I was givin a 80, 000 lb load insteed.

I tried to get help over and over and the only response I got was they had already had two roll overs that day. They told me to drive the truck to Salt Lake UT. I had to drive with no breaks only trailer breaks the whole way. When I reach Salt Lake Nov 17 2011 the office was closed. Nov 18 2011 I went in to talk to a manger and he did not care. He charged me for the load not being drop off in the right place. He would not fix the truck. They just sent me back out to the truck in the yard.

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billy arnold
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Jan 31, 2014 1:26 pm EST
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My first experience on the truck with the trainer at the school who was a big black man from the congo in Africa. He put his hand on my thigh and pinched it when I was backing up. He then wanted to give me a kiss on the lips as a reward for a job well done. I told him I was not a homosexual and he then treated me badly for the next 2 weeks often yelling at me while he was rubbing his hand on his crotch area of his pants. Really strange smelly freak if you ask me. My mentor driver kept asking me to do his dirty laundry; and give him foot massages which I thought was weird. I could hear him masturbating in the sleeper while I drove then laughing and asking me to come back into the sleeper with him. I declined which made him madder and angrier. If you ask me they are all a bunch of dirty perverts but if you like to be raped up the ying yang then this company is for you.

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Greenville, US
Nov 24, 2012 9:36 am EST
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they should shut them down for good i work for them and got fired after a man ran in to me in Texas just because he didn't like the Cr England and the fatality rate is threw the roof i was there for 6 months and 42 students and trainers died but do they care no they do not and furthermore what do they tell the families it was all there fault no it was the drivers and i would like to Sue them so take it from me don't go to Cr England

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C.R. England Run as fast as one can from this company

CR England what a joke.
Now dont worry about any test for your CDL, atleast the Fontana School will give you all the answers and you "Will Pass". Hell people that had the breaks pulled on them while doing road tests had passed, come on, if the breaks are pulled on you to stop the truck & trailer, then you have no buisness being behind the wheel.
For those that have no buisness back ground or any money set aside to cover you, you have no chance. You will need to have money to eat with, yes you can get an advancement on your pay. The trainers I had who had been doing this for over a year, had no money, was buming off me at first, 1st clue to me.
If you have a new family, recently married, this will not work for you, this job is for those that have no life, no social skills, no kids, no wife/husband and no money and no clue on how to opperate a buisness.
In training you will only make 430.00 a week, and thats for driving 10/11 hours a day for seven days, while in training. not even federal standard wages.
After completing and going for an upgrade, if you go for 2nd seat, they say 12cpm, hell you make more as a trainee then as a second seat driver.
Now if you op for a lease driver IC, Boy you just ###ed up.
My first day in the Mira Loma yard I was approached by another employee who had informed me to run like hell from this company, hell I was'nt there no more than 5 min. when he came up to me.
Then when I had gotten onto my trainers truck, all I heard was neg. chit regarding this company the whole time.
This Company has no intensions of wanting a company driver, they are a leasing company.
Before you decide on leasing, make sure that you have it in writing that you are going to get x amount of miles, ( have it in writing ). Then do your math...! to see what you will need to a profit, just to clear your opperating costs you will have to run 1800+ miles first.
But, remember, if you chose to have them handle all your buisness affairs, book keeping then you have your maintenace fund, broker fee's, truck payment, "fuel" etc. Plus all the additional of extra cost for putting the truck on the road, chains, gps, if you have to chain up, word of advice, pull it over and park it, no feight or miles are worth it.
Get your self some software for tracking your buisness, dont op to have them handle all your affairs, less money you will be bringing home..!
And after all is said and done, and you decide to walk, dont drive back and deliver the truck, go home and part it out, atleast you will be able to recover your losses.
They will hit you for the balance and then sum hidden costs, plus all the repairs they will claim had to be done.
Last month they had 9 roll overs, but hell after 180 days you can be classified as a trainer.
No wounder why the high safety accidents this company has.
A class mate that went through the same time with me op for the lease program, ( me I left, rented a car and drove home) well, the first week he brought home $215.00 after everything was taken out of his check, the second week $45.00, I had text him the other day, in which I asked if he brought enough home for a twelve park, his responce was no, and he was having his wife seeking out an attorney to get him out of this lease, has asked his DM for more miles, nothing.
I'm sure once he gets his 180 days and can become a trainer then yes, he will get more miles, due to the fact that he will now push the new trainee into becoming a leasee just as his trainer pushed him. The trainer who is training a new fool is the one that gets the miles.
Our truck never shut down, except to fuel up.
Plus gotta love all that wounderful food at the truck stops, plus sitting in ball soup all day if your a male, wounder what to call it for a female...?
Those that I've seen to op for a company position, All I had seen was that they were sitting and waiting for a truck to come up for them, this one guy had been sitting waitng for three weeks, mind you at no pay while waiting, so he ended up going to lease just to get out of Salt Lake so as to hopefully make some money so he could eat.

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C.R. England Charged for things not broken

When we were working for England we did a 6 month lease. It was a nightmare. We would usually only get 10 percent of our weekly income. There were weeks we didn't even get paid 'cause they took all of our money! While leasing the truck we had it in the shop a lot fixing all the things wrong with it. We had to put a new drivers seat in 'cause the other was broke. All of the money we had in our maintenance fund was used up the last time it was in the shop for a week! We had to pay for a motel room and the truck repairs. Now after we turned the truck back in when the 6 month lease was up England is trying to charge us for things that weren't broken or didn't need to be replaced. They took our last 7000.00 check plus they are saying we still owe them over 1000.00 for the truck and 3000.00 for the school loan on top of that!

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Jan 01, 2013 1:16 pm EST

My husband has been at work for just a month and has not seen a dime of money, they have taken everything he has made. They are charging him full price for gas and other things he can't figure out what or where his money is going. He had a $5000.00 check and didnt have a dime of it, they said he was in the whole $1100. This company is ridiculous do not work for them.

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C.R. England - fraud

Sent to...Indiana Attorney General's Office Indiana Government Center South 302 W. Washington St., 5th Floor Indianapolis, IN 46204 Phone: 317.232.6201 Jan 24/2012 My name is Ricardo Resident of NYS Long Island and I want to report a Fraud happening in your area. This Company CR ENGLAND offer wonders in the web site..you can read about it at...

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C.R. England CR England Didn't Care!

I went to work for CR England Oct 2 2011. I went through the training and was on the road with a trainer and another person in training on the truck with in a week. On Oct. 27 2011 I was kicked by the trainer and was yelled at. Was cussed out at about my sexuality. The trainer then left me and the other person in a truck stop in In. CR England then sent us to Salt Lake UT and did nothing for us. We sat for a week waiting to get back on a truck. I was made to feel it was my fault and they didn't care. I was put back with a new trainer on Nov. 5, 2011. He was very helpful and nice. By Nov 9, 2011 I was in gray In for more training. On Nov 14 2011 I was givin a load and truck for my first hall. The weight was 40, 000 lbs. When I started up the rocky mts I found out my truck had no breaks. I called it in over and over from Nov 15 to the 16 2011. I had only the breaks on my trailer. On Nov 15 2011 5 pm they told me to wait and someone would come get my load and give me a lighter load. I was givin a 80, 000 lb load insteed.
I tried to get help over and over and the only response I got was they had already had two roll overs that day. They told me to drive the truck to Salt Lake UT. I had to drive with no breaks only trailer breaks the whole way. When I reach Salt Lake Nov 17 2011 the office was closed. Nov 18 2011 I went in to talk to a manger and he did not care. He charged me for the load not being drop off in the right place. He would not fix the truck. They just sent me back out to the truck in the yard.

I would like to know what I can do or is there?

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C.R. England lies and forced lease

I went to their school in salt lake ut.I learned a lot. I have a few weeks left in my phase 2 training.I'm being told that there are just about 100 people on a list to go company. They have plenty of lease trucks available, or I have to stay with my trainer until further notice with my .11 per mile instead of the .12per mile I was told.my phase 2 trainer is good.but he is on dedicated run, up northwest area.I live south central haven't been home in over 2 months.they did send me home barely aftermy 1st30 days, just because of a death in family.other wise I would still be running on a expired paper license. When I signed up I did so as a company not to be forced into a lease.I'm just tired of the bs lies.

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C.R. England withholding paycheck

Independent driver... leasing from CR England turned truck in at the end of his contract...received settlement within the 45 day time frame. a month later he was notified that he owed $5000 plus to England. the truck he turned in went on a trip to WA and ID and was in an accident, someone else drove ther truck and had the accident...Are they crazy? They held his last paycheck towards paying the $5000...Is that LEGAL? Dept of Labor? any suggestions? please HELP

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Feb 21, 2012 9:23 pm EST

same thing turned my truck and have to wait for 45 days

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C.R. England Scam

My wife and I went to their Utah training facilty in december of 2008 to get our CDL licenses and lease a tractor from their lease program. They are professional scam artists... They make millions off thier students and more from the lease program, that is how these [censored]birds make thier revenue... they dont make money as a trucking company, most of the drivers driving for them are getting so ripped off that they quit and go to enougher trucking company to make money to pay for the costs of the CR Englands programs. They will take take take and perpously leave you stranded 3000 miles from home with no money. They have no loads... who would hire a trucking company with pissed off drivers? that would drop off their merchandise where ever when the drivers figure out how bad CR England is ripping them off..:.

Save your self the hasle and go to a truck driving school to get your CDL, The job connect and US goverment has programs that pay 100% of the cost of the training;. if you can not afford it your self|. We did just that and the Goverment paid $1700, .00 a piece to go to the nearest driving school in our city'. CR England wanted $6000..00 plus intrest to get a CDL licence?. We told them to stick it where the sun dont shine the second day we were there.

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Anotherdayinparadice
Riverside, US
Mar 26, 2012 8:47 am EDT

HappywithCRE - "Trainer" this is why CRE has the highest safety rating for accidents, due to those that complete 180 days of what driving, and now you are an "experienced instructor". Another CRE instructor oh boy.

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Rochelle, US
Aug 17, 2011 3:18 am EDT
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You definately don't have your facts straight. CRE did not charge you nor will they $6000 a piece for CDL training. Go to the website and see for yourself how much it costs. If you have a CDL already and just need refresher course, it's even less. They don't rip people off, they train you, they provide you with what you need to be successful. You just have to chose to use what is provided to you. Trucking isn't for everyone. Those who are tough enough to handle it, make money. Those of you who whine and complain that CRE isn't doing what they promised, didn't pay attention and aren't using the tools you were provided. CRE doesn't need you. Glad you both went elsewhere and the Government deserves you, its been paying for education for the pathetic, lazy people of this country for YEARS, why should it stop now.

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C.R. England They misrepresented themselves

C.R.England's focal point is to enhance the monetary gain of it's trainers. With as little as 30 days experience, you can become a phase 1 trainer. This means, that an 80, 000 pound rig is motoring down the same freeways and streets that your family uses, with a driver or drivers who could conceivably have no more than 60 days experience, combined. Unsafe at any speed. If you are a company driver, who will only be used for the "short hop" loads the lessor's do not want. You will starve. The company is guilty of unfair business practices. The company is guilty of "bait and switch", telling drivers they will get more miles with a leased truck. When you lease a truck from them, you get someone else's problem truck. I counted 46 trucks in their leasing yard. It told me a lot of folks were defaulting on their leases. Why? They were either being raped for the shop repairs, or they weren't making any money. At any rate, in their minds it was cheaper and better for them to turn the truck in, than to continue on this pipe dream invented by the trucking company and it's employees. And if you are thinking of becoming a company driver, C.R.England dosen't want company drivers. You will be shuffled around, and you still won't get your own truck. One man I talked to was with them for 4 months, no truck. Every rumor, like 3 people in one truck, crappy paychecks, (he had 1 good one), not being able to truck in the 11 western, 6 days with no showers, for instance, happened to this guy. He was from PHX, and he almost went broke being stuck on Hershey "short hops" out of PA. So he decided to team, and they could never connect him and his buddy, who at the time was stuck on the "short hops" around Hershey. At this point he was at the terminal for a week in SLC waiting for them to connect him with his buddy. Finally, he asked to wait at home in PHX, and said he had never seen anyone so willing to send a driver home in his life. The two of them were talking on the phone and the final verdict was, "They want us both to quit." Do yourself a favor. Cross England, Werner, and Swift off your list. The smaller the driver pool is, the better deal you will get. At least these smaller companies treat their drivers with some respect. At the big 3 companies, it's all about herding them through the turnstile. What else could explain 137% turnover at England?

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Riverside, US
Mar 26, 2012 9:11 am EDT

Boy I wanna run out and drive for 180 days so I can become a certified CRE Trainer, this is why CRE has the highest safety rating out there, this is why they had 9 roll overs last month, and may I add that most of the roll overs the Trainer who was suppose to be training the trainee was asleep in the bunk.
Does one get a wall certificate or some special cert. if one becomes a trainer after 180 days...?

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Rochelle, US
Aug 17, 2011 3:00 am EDT
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First of all, your comment about being a Phase 1 trainer after 30 days is totally false. You must have 6 MONTHS of driving experience, plus they check for log violations, late loads, claim or pallet problems, check w/ your DM and the safety department for any accidents. So...since your very first complaint is untrue, what makes anyone think any of the remaining things you fussed about are even close to being accurate. Get your information correct before you bad mouth something or someone...

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C.R. England unethical business

It has been almost a year I have spent with c.r. england. When I went out to the terminal for orientation. the first thing that was said to us is. what ever your recruiter told you was a lie. there was 40-50 people and the room went from quiet to people yelling. including me. i asked for a bus ticket home cause i was low on funds. the instructor said sorry only if you get fired. i had allergys so i took some pills. i slept for most of the four days. i still got hired. My first truck was a mess. i picked up nestle in Illinois and went to atlanta, ga. i then sat for day. i came acustomed to either sitting or running hard. depending on if i pissed off my dm. with england. they do not want seasoned truck drivers. they depend on people from mcdonalds or 7-11 to become a truck driver. they then pay you 5-600 a week. about have of what a seasoned driver makes. then they expect drivers with a few months experience to train you. now they are forcing us to drive teams or quit. i will not do either. i refuse to die at the hands of someone else. they also do not value your home time. you could be out for months and once again they like it that way. all they care is if the truck keeps making them money, but if you piss of your dm you could easily sit for a week. i think if you are reading this and deciding to go to school or become a driver. dont. so here i sit. my dedicated account is coming to an end. it is the end for me. they simply lied to us and said they would inform us of when the account was ending. instead they are giving us 1 way loads and then turning us to over the road. many of us have our homes here. we have our family. we have our loved ones. we have our kids. so instead of giving us a chance to give hugs and kisses to our kids. they deceive us and send us on our way to our death by student. i know we all need jobs but i say at what cost do we need jobs. should we really work just to make enough to slowly watch it all go away?

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C.R. England firing

I try not to fuss about any company but this has gone too far. My husband was fired after 20 other drivers in the last 2 weeks at the same terminal. Reason you don't drive safe enough for the company. Now here is the problem: no wrecks, no bump ins, no dot violations, no tickets, no nothing. Clean your truck out was all the guy that fired him would say. A district manager told him it is because cr england has too many new students coming out of their school and they need somewhere to put them. So let's get this straight they are taking safe, experinced drivers off the road and firing them and replacing them with drivers that just learned how to drive a truck. Never again will we apply to a company like cr england. Might need to be on the safe side and stay off the roads too.

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Jul 01, 2011 2:51 pm EDT

Obviously there are 2 sides to every story but if these problems are so prevailant (reading other complaints) every driver out there that has a problem with the company should file a complaint with the Dept. Of Labor. They DO investigate.

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C.R. England Hungry, tired used and abused employees students

CR England, What a joke, just a money mill and they do not care or give a crap about their drivers, they did over half a billion dollars of revenue last year and their drivers are barely making a living. those that lease, work a week, seven days over the road, dangeours work, away from home 7 days and hten get stuck with a bill for 50 -100 dollars or more. Imagine working 7 dangerous days away from home, then getting a bill for your service! They own the leasing company, so they make money off your truck lease and your service, while you barely earn enuff to make a living!
The school is just a money mill, they do not give people enough time to learn the material, basically setting you up for failure while they make the 2, 900 dollars off your schooling, which is not schooling at all. They just give you materials to read and study and barely time to read and study. Your first red flag should be if they leave you little time after they call you to come attend the school. There is no way you can learn all the information in one day to pass your cdl test. I studied before i got there and did pass the tests only to get attacked/assaulted by a crazy animal roomate and kicked out of the school for fighting and "I did absolutely nothing but go to the office at the hotel and report the crime." The hotel is a dump, fleas everywhere even under your sheets at night, microwaves don't work, heat/air don't work and nobody cares, they act like they care but they do not. They told me I would be in a new hotel and they set me up in that dump, The American Suites Inn. The only have one bus and 2 vans to get you from class and to walmart so there is never enough room for everyone to get on, Which means you wake up at 4 after 4 hours sleep, only to miss the bus through no fault of your own and sit around for another hour to an hour and a half waiting for the bus to return, you are sleeping about 4-5 hours a night, 12 hours of class a day, then you will miss the bus to get home after class if you don't push your way to the front and they never run the 2 vans, you do get to see them sitting there in the parking lot. Then the director A-o-io will talk like he cares but trust me he is a power monger and does not give a crap, all they are doing is farming people and making money off you and your hard work, assuming you can make it through the living hell they routinely and continually subject you to!
There were about 75 people in my class and they talk to you and treat you like crap. They have so many new hires, way more than they could possbily employ and those that they do, they do not have enough trucks for, so what they are really doing, is trying to lease you a truck so they can make money off your work and the truck lease! All while you barely make enough to pay your bills, truck payment, insurance and gas, after 7 days hard and dangerous work over the road! Not worth any of the crap or torture they subject you too. I heard stories of trainers trying to get trainees to drive more hours than legally allowable per DOT regulations by driving signed in on the electronic log under the trainers name, and if you get pulled over while driving under theior name, you have comited the crime not them!
The entire company is crap, the people are crap, to include the goofy trainers and none of them give a crap about you. Do yourself a favor and stay away from them as far as you can, I could go on and on complaining about the inhumane treatment. Like the fact that new bodies come through the doors every week. So many new hires (trainees) that they could not hire them all if they wanted to.
Do not even think about joining that organization, you will regret it! and if you do, they won't pay you fair compensation for your hard work. .12 cnets a mile for team driving? Hello, that is 550 - 650 for 7 dangerous days out on the road for less than 100 a day! just say hell no, you won't go because I can guarantee, you will regret it.
Good GOD CR England and all of their money grubbing human farming are nothing more than feces, using and abusing "people" for their own persoanl gain and profit! Don;t believe me? Go and see for yourself, then come back and confirm that everything I said is true. Those not complaining or saying good things are either lying or desperate enough in the tough economy to have anything to occpuy their time!
They even told us point blank, that they do not have enough trucks to hiore all the people they hire. All they want you to do, is be on the hook for a truck lease so you have to stay on and struggle to make your payment and insurance. The director A-o-io is just an arrogant power hungry jerk hell bent on overseeing their people farm like Stalin of Hitler, ruling "nothing" with an iron fist. And all the other people talk down tpo you, like you are not important and making clear that they do not care or give a crap abpout you. Like I said, i could go on and on, do yourself a favor and find yourself a real job, because CR England is not it!

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Anotherdayinparadice
Riverside, US
Mar 26, 2012 9:19 am EDT

But they could of became a Trainer like you Happy after 180 days

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HappywithCRE
Rochelle, US
Aug 17, 2011 3:22 am EDT
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Like I've said before, trucking is not for the weak and whiny. That's why you 2 are on the complaint board complaining. Weak and whiny...need some cheese w/ that whine.

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Little Rock, US
Jun 28, 2011 12:22 am EDT
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I wholeheartedly agree with everything you said. I just did a week there (yes, it is like jail) and the class started with 80 people, then was down to 25 by day 4. They also get rid of women as quickly as possible. They do it so underhandedly that you don't even realize it. Each day ten or more students are kicked-out, and you think it is because they couldn't hack it or didn't pass the tests or have driving issues they didn't disclose, but in reality CR England knows they cannot employ all the students they admit in the program. The reason they let students by the hundreds come in each week when they know they cannot employ that many people? They stick you with the $3, 000 contract even if you don't finish the program. CR England is in cahoots with the finance company to pay for your schooling. The finance company tells you this will re-build your credit, but what it really does is ruin your credit because you still have to pay the bill - even if you are excused from the school. I should have listened to what people were trying to tell me about CR England!

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C.R. England Stole my things

I had told the company that I was quitting and would return the truck to Burns Harbor, In.. I went home in Alabama and went to dinner with my family and when I returned to my house, the truck was gone and all of my personal items that were in it was gone also. I called the home office to report it and was told it was their truck and the property inside the truck became company property as well.I found out the hard waythat the bigger companies can get by with what they want. A lesson learned the hard way...

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C.R. England illegal acts

When I first applied to this so called company, I was assured that I was going to have a company driver position, not knowing that they do not hire company drivers anymore. I did not know this until after I quit. They are complete liars, after I finished my schooling that is when they pushed and pushed and pushed for me to lease, telling me over and over at how this would be the best for me, meanwhile it was all lies, they were only telling me this crap because they knew they were not hiring company drivers, they just wanted to scam another person into hauling they're freight for free. So I became one of these poor pathetic gullable lease drivers for them. I worked my ### off and in 4 weeks recieved a check for 19.oo and they told me to eat at McDonalds when I confronted them about this. They have absolutely refused to give me any kind of a printout or paystub of any kind to show where all my funds were being distributed. They told me in the beginning that I could have my own accountant or use theirs, and assured me that theirs would be better because it was free, yet another lie, so I went with theirs. They said that their accountants would pay all the taxes and everything, not to worry. Well, after all this and no pay, I received a 1099- misc form in the mail for my taxes and they said they paid me 6091.00 and no taxes deducted, that was all that was on the form, I don't know what they are thinking, I only recieved 19.00, how can they get away with this ###? Who are they paying off?

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Mar 17, 2011 6:13 pm EDT

I agree with fraud detective. I consistantly refused to accept the lease program and they dropped me from the Mira Loma course 4 days before my final test. I was hounde by a couple of instuctors at the Fontana yard as well saying that I could not follow instructions. Why is not anyone coming down on the recruiters for telling us to lie and with hold information? Or had I accepted and showed a strong interest into their leasing program, would things have been different? Things I think might have been very different!

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Feb 07, 2011 3:05 pm EST
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CR England IS hiring company drivers. Perhaps you had a bad experience for whatever reason, but I know first hand that they are hiring Company solos and teams.

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C.R. England Inadequate training, recruiters who lie, broke drivers

I have a cdl from previous trucking, but was out of driving for about three years. I contacted CR England for a job and was told by the recruiter that I would be hired but needed to take a refresher course to insure I could still drive and update on any laws, log books, etc. I was told the course I would be attending would only cost me $100.00 and it would be 1 week long, then on a truck with a trainer for a week longer. I arrived in Salt Lake City and was told no room in the facility that I would be bussed to a motel and would have to bring all my luggage back each moring. I had about 50 pounds worth of canned food since they did not provide meals. I was placed in the hotel (on a Sunday) and had to stay there for 3 days before they found me a room with 7 other guys, all sleeping on very wobbly bunk beds. The same type my young children have. When I arrived on Monday, I was told I would be attending a 2 week course, then out over the road for 2 to 3 months with a trainer, (no home time unless they happen to have a delivery in the town I live in), and I would have to lease a truck since they have more drivers than trucks. I went to training as usual, and watched as a class of over 100 people began to dwindle down due to various reasons..birth certificate was ripped, recruiter didn't get all previous job references (which I thought was something they should have had completed before telling you that you were hired), etc. In class instruction was just fine, but then we went to the backing range and learned to back with the help of students, not instructors and before we even learned to go forward. Me having driving experience was able to assist my fellow students. After 1 1/2 weeks, I said screw it and left. I met several friends I keep in touch with on a weekly basis who graduated and got their CDL's with CR Englands help. 1st friend, leased a truck and got into a wreck, not his fault. Instead of England giving him another truck while his was being fixed, he sat around for several weeks. Finally back on the road he was dispatched to a trailer left abandoned at a truck stop and got 70 miles down the road and was pulled over and arrested. He was told the trailer was stolen, even though the Qual Com had him dispatched to it. 2nd friends (a couple) leased a truck together and team drive. In 4 months they received their tax statement stating they made $30, 000, but have only banked $4, 000. England has received the $26, 000 for their money. 3rd friend, got broke and went elsewhere. His highest paycheck was $500 and only once. And get this, he became a trainer after a month! 4th friend was told to come back to Salt Lake City for his "upgrade" because he refused to lease a truck, but England would not send him via Greyhound, but instead wanted him to hop trucks headed that way. He was fired for a log violation during his attempt to return, and was never behind the wheel since he was trying to get back to the facility. I was fortunate enough to get a local driving job and have made more working hourly delivering farm commodities than my friends who are doing OTR driving. Please take it from me and my friend's experiences and do not go to CR England. This was August 2010. When I asked my recruiter about all of the negative publicity with England, he stated that they have made improvements and are driver oriented. Not.

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Anotherdayinparadice
Riverside, US
Mar 26, 2012 8:53 am EDT

Plus they always cheat you out of miles on every settlement, This is a leasing company not a trucking company, with 1500+ trucks to recover out there on the road. Now that tells one something

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Troysteed
Salt Lake City, US
Mar 18, 2011 12:53 am EDT

They are getting worse by the month. They false advertise there wages. They did away with the rewards points bonus of getting the drivers variable mileage payment reduced. This means that its impossible for a lease operator to make more than 66 cpm empty and whatever the top wage is they advertise minus .14 cpm. It is a very strong case of false advertising.

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C.R. England Big Fat Liars Scam Artists & So On

My husband unfortunately just wasted $400 & 5 days going to Gary Indiana from NJ to take the 3 day orientation. He is an experienced driver not taking their schooling, etc. He spent 6 hours waiting for a shuttle to pick him & 75 others up at the bus terminal, after being on the bus almost 21 hours. Then they took them to the terminal & not their hotel & had these tired men filling out paperwork. My husband's roommate got let go & they moved my husband to another room. Only to find out this poor guy just quit CR England because he has not been home in 5 MONTHS! They badger these guys to lease, etc. They don't reimburse you for your meals while you're there & you do not get paid while attending orientation. They also do not tell you this information until you arrive there. If you should decide to go home, that cost is all your responsibility. STAY AS FAR AWAY FROM THESE LOWLIFES AS POSSIBLE. You could lose everything & end up being poorer than you are to begin with.

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Jan 18, 2011 5:22 pm EST

And to add insult to injury, the bus back to our area just broke down! GO GREYHOUND...NOT!

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C.R. England Falsification of Electronic Log

This company recently assumed a dedicated contract to haul for Smithfield Foods. Unfortunately, the logistical operations did not institute effective protocol and/or procedural measures before assuming this contract.

There are quite a few stories that have been and could be told, but the most egregious that I have been exposed to is the inducement/coercement to accept a load which I could not legally deliver due to insufficient hours of available service.

After contacting the Logs Department at C.R. England and informing them that I had to refuse a load due to Hours Of Service limitation, someone immediately accessed the electronic log system and changed my available hours of service available for the day from 6.00 to 14.00.

I am quite sure that if the Department of Transportation Enforcement Division were to ever get wind of such behaviour(s), C.R. England would be none too happy with their Transportation efforts at Smithfield.

P.S. Smithfield has come under U.S. Federal Government scrutiny for illegal processing of their product(s). I guess "birds of a feather . . . " do indeed " . . . flock together".

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