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Sent to...Indiana Attorney General's Office
Indiana Government Center South
302 W. Washington St., 5th Floor
Indianapolis, IN 46204
Phone: 317.232.6201

Jan 24/2012

My name is Ricardo Resident of NYS Long Island and I want to report a Fraud happening in your area. This Company CR ENGLAND offer wonders in the web site..you can read about it at www.crengland.com/Apply...
Their tel is [protected] or [protected]- Ms Aime Monik- "placement coordinator"

They offer free transportation and motel to get...free training and/or commercial driver type A licenses...or a "curse refreshment" for people with existent CDL type A from any state...
The reality is far from true...
1) They have a training center at Burns harbor, Indiana..where they take the people on Sundays nights after 20 to 25 hours of greyhound traveling from other states as far as NC, VA, NY etc..they made them fill applications and the next morning they make them pay a non refundable $50 fee..then they divide them in the 2 groups of people with and without commercial driver licenses...cdl
2) For the people with NO cdl's they make them sign a $3000 LOAN plus interests to get their licenses..after having publish it is for free..
3) For the people WITH cdls..they offer a "brain wash" class training in which they promise them thousands of dollars IF they LEASE a truck and become COMPANY DRIVERS .. YOU CAN READ ABOUT THE HUNDREDS OF VICTIMS OF THIS SCAM LEASES ON the internet if you google "cr england lease complaints..." and/or web sites like "pissed customer.com" ..but so far nothing has been done about it by any authority..

4) Basically, they make people who lease pay for repairs and/or maintenance for their used lease trucks deducting these expenses from the 0.90 cents per mile they offer to leasers of trucks..There are people in bankruptcy loosing their assets after CR england apply the small letter paragraphs in their contract leases which only favors the company not the drivers...

5) if the driver chooses to be a "company driver" not leasing..they just fire such individuals..not after being worked for cr england FOR 3 to 6 months at the pay rate of $20 PER DAY if the driver is waiting to be pick up at a motel called "Home town lodge" located in Hamond IN tel [protected]. If the diver is being pick up for 20 hours of day work is being paid $60... CR england force people to sign a paper to acknowledge they can only be OFF DUTY..not working or sleeping in the truck... 4 hours in a 24 hours period called "day log". This means that workers for cr england are being ripped off because in 24 hours period they can only have 4 hours of free personal time--not in the truck...for $60 day rate..that is way below the minimum legal salary in any state in the US.

6) the crash training or refreshment is being promised for 10 days in the web site is cut to only 2 days in class and 1 day being evaluated in a truck by a trainer...basically the trainer writes if the person is able or not to move the truck a few blocks...then your are called by the training coordinator mentioned before Ms Aimme Monik and is being told by her... "congratulations...you are officially hired and graduated..." and sent to wait for your truck at the motel...
This means that people with NO experience is placed to drive a 80 TON truck in the highway..offering a risk to the rest of people and to themselves... new drivers for cr england don't know that it is their cdl in risk of being penalized for any not trained offense by the police..something like not stopping at the weight station.. non experienced drivers don't know abut it after they have the violation ticket..

Something must be done or investigated...hundreds of people like me victims of this fraud..hundreds of drivers being under pay...cheap or free labor for a company only interested in the profit coming from their leased trucks to innocent people... people in the highway in risk of being hit by not well trained drivers in a cr england huge truck.. a false negative offer done online wth the only purpose of fraudulent income...

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Happy-with-SAGE
Avon, US
Jan 15, 2014 2:28 pm EST

Check with the BBB before you enroll in any school. CR England's school has an F rating. SAGE has an A+... FYI

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Happy-with-SAGE
Avon, US
Jan 15, 2014 2:22 pm EST

I hear horror stories like this all of the time. Try SAGE truck driving school. They actually care. It's a private school and they train you in a truck with just the instructor. No other students are ever in the truck with you! The 1-on-1 driving is amazing and I chose their 44 hour driving program so I graduated with 150 hours in school, 44 of them being BTW and NO observation time!

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wolfman2448
Gettysburg, US
May 22, 2013 5:41 pm EDT

hmmmm i went to burns harbor about a year ago all this stuff about screwing drivers is bull i didn't fail i even went right to a dedicated run making 1500 a week and i am home every nite and i have the weekends of>>>>>plus i didn't pay for my school i singed a contract saying i had to stay for 6 months or pay the school...im doing fine in a company truck

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CR England Recruit
DC, US
Apr 25, 2013 11:18 pm EDT

I am currently writing a journal from a Veteran's perspective on this Company and Program, I want the truth and want the opportunity the promise! and am willing to work for it.
please friend me on FACEBOOK FOR Current Info https://www.facebook.com/crengland.veteranrecruit?ref=tn_tnmn
CR England Veteran Recruit

I had read that no one at CR England cares...so far, not finding that I FACEBOOKED Mike Lynch http://www.crengland.com/truck-driving-schools/blog/cr-england-hires-senior-military-recruiter

It was less than 24 hours before he responded welcoming me to the company, and reminding me about the opportunity they provide for homeless veterans...Some people were ranting and raving about I can't afford my rent, my house, etc... What a reminder Homeless Veterans, getting a chance to get back to work, have a career and a place to sleep! A very important segment of our Veteran Community. I needed that reminder. I think we ALL need this reminder.

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Jrew82
, US
Feb 22, 2013 9:36 am EST
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Hello Guys I've Been Reading All These Complaints About CR England, Trans Am Trucing And USA Trucking, Thank God I Read This Because This November I Was Thinking Of Joining CR England And Going To School In Indiana So Thanks For The Heads Up So If All These Truck Companies Rip You Off What Company Should I Trust! I Had A Careless Driving On My Record And November This Year Would Be 3 Years Old They Told Me To Wait 3 Years Then I Can Work For Them So If There's Any Truck Company That Can Be Trusted Please Let Me Know...

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anzzi
Providence, US
Feb 11, 2013 3:11 pm EST

i had a similar incident happen at cr england they got you to lease a truck and you have to pay fuel to r=carry out england freight at the end of the week you end up with a minus pay check driving and risking your life for free and encgland got me a in a poor house now on shelter try to get my life together after seven week of no pay just minus check net pay 0 dollar. beware of cr englang trick and treat. don't get sucking to their promise is all ###

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Roadrunner43
Las Vegas, US
Jan 17, 2013 3:52 pm EST

I am amazed that C. R. England is still ripping people off in this manner. The Attorney General of Utah needs to fine this company into oblivion for unfair business practices. If this was a Union outfit, this would never stand. But never-the-less, it has only gone on for as long as it has because of the slick lawyers hired by England to cover their butts. Regardless, contracts and paperwork that is signed by would be employees, is not worth the paper it is printed on in this egregious misrepresentation that leaves people destitute, and/or without promised income. This will not stand. I said it in May 2010, and I'm saying it again: Attorney General's Office, please rectify this situation, and take this supplication and make a case against these people who have no moral compass, and everyday commit crimes against the American truck driver. It is against the law to treat people in this manner, and something needs to be done. Since October 2008, C.R.England and it's managers have caused people who thought they would would get ahead with a new job and a new start, monetary loss that is staggering. These people were lied to, cajoled, and almost forced into leasing a truck, only to; in reality help England pay for the laden equipment problem the company was experiencing. Everything they did from that point forward took advantage of people in a country with a economic predicament, and used it to enhance the trucking company's bottom line. They knew that if they sweetened the pot in the on-line advertisements, that people so strapped for work and cash, would come from all over the country, and probably wouldn't buck the opportunity to work, and then C.R.England could spoon-feed them anything they wanted too, and they would more than likely take it. In this way England could get rid of two problems. It could get equipment out of their leasing yard and on the road, and they wouldn't have to worry about a driver for three years because he signed a lease. He/she would be financially bound, and problems solved for the company. Even they have to know that it has been a dismal failure. I was hired back in May 2010. I stood in their parking lot after my driving test, and sensed that it was going to be a big waste of time to have anything to do with C.R.England. I wisely went back to my room, packed, called a cab, and went to the bus depot. Coming back to the streets for four months was better than going on that merry-go-round. I sincerely hope that some one in authority reads all these documented cases of being ripped off by a trucking company with no conscious, and takes them to task. At some point in time, all of us that have been mistreated by England, will be vindicated. Mark my words. After all, they are breaking the law.

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fanz
Burns Harbor, US
Nov 27, 2012 12:45 pm EST

in reply to the person who wrote that article you need to understand it its up to you to find common ground yes the reCruiter mislead you about the training you make the decision to stay so don't be player hater about driver on the road they need experience too if you failed on your task with Cr england don't blame no one but yourself i wish you great success with other trucking company

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Anotherdayinparadice
Riverside, US
Mar 22, 2012 6:18 am EDT

Hope all those that think about getting on with this company read all the post in here.
And yes, some thing needs to be done to this company.

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