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Hello,
I have no doubt that Mr Barbarich is breaking the law.

Over three months have gone by since I last dealt with Steve Barbarich, and I've only gotten madder.
He's really caused alot of pain and stress to me and my wife.

I purchased an "Island Escape Spa" from him for over $7000 this spring.
I found out that that brand doesn't even exist. Its a "Mona Lisa" spa from China. It's logo says "Mona Lisa", the delivery company (Allied Van Lines) said that these hot tubs were picked up right from the import facility.

There wasn't even any repackaging done. Island Escape brand doesn't exist.

Steve Barbarich lied about personally inspecting them. He lied about VERY MANY THINGS!
His site and rep sold me FULL FOAM insulation for $100 extra(later increased to $150.
What I got was about a 12 oz can's worth of aerosol foam snaked in places on the tub (much of it lying on the frame and all over the water pumps. Steve said that thats how its done these days.
I was sure to take lots of pictures.
The Hot tub didn't even work! Nothing. Steve ridiculed me for that
You don't have to take my words. I don't have to paraphrase, as Steve personally insulted and ripped me off via email, which I intend to keep. I will gladly EVERY EMAIL SENT BETWEEN choosehottubsdirect.com and me to anyone who is interested. Steve Barbarich is dispicable. DO NOT TRUST HIM or give him your money! These Mona Lisa hot tubs are PURE JUNK. I have lots of pictures to back this up.

The hot tub was defective in many ways as well as damaged BADLY.
The delivery driver tried to refuse to even deliver it, but Steve told him to take it anyway, and that choosehottubsdirect would "Make it right". Well they didn't, and Steve handled it by insulting us.
I was very careful from the beginning to be courteous, fair, and never rude.
Interestingly, since I did my business with him by phone, and insisted on paying with credit card ( Which his sales rep at first said was not an option), all my correspondence is in writing. I have my itemized invoice which was not what was received, as well as all Steve's lies in print.
Instead of trying to help me, Steve wrote to me that I'm crazy and that all the damage and workmanship are normal for this brand. He offered to replace some parts at a discount to me. What a joke!
Afterwards, he even wrote that it appears that I was looking for a quality brand, and that he had one he would be happy to sell me. (No, he didn't offer a discount)

Here's how I handled being ripped off by Steve Barbarich:
I paid by credit card: I notified my cc company immediately and they went after Barbarich.
I issued a complaint to my state's Consumer Protection Agency, which got on Steve right away and opened the complaint case.
I see tonight that Steve has issued a press release to some blog websites, saying he's donating a portion of sales from Mona Lisa ... I mean "Island Escape" spas to Ike Relief.. It doesn't say how much.
It would be nice to find out if its true. After working with choosehottubsdirect staff and Steve Barbarich, I think it must be another scam - But thats just my opinion.

Steve has denied doing anything wrong, and he replied to the Wisconsin cpa that my behavior is "bizarre".
Here's what I posted to /link removed/ about Barbarich:
/URL removed/

If you want more information from an inside source, contact Barbarich's former VP of sales at Choosehottubsdirect. He should be able to confirm that Steve is ripping people off. I was fortunate enough to get to know him and he confirmed my suspicions. He has since quit the company. He's too good for them.

Weeks after Steve was forced to pickup the hot tub (which I had to help load), Steve tried calling me.
I immediately hung up (Sorry Steve- didn't mean to be rude). I want to keep all correspondence in writing. Well, he sends me an email that night saying that I have to return to him missing parts that are unique to that crappy, broken hottub. The nerve! Like I would want to cause myself more grief.

I hope this helps others to think about being ripped off.

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Bornfreelivefree
Los Angeles, US
Jun 07, 2022 2:44 am EDT

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365CLEANERS
, US
May 05, 2022 6:45 am EDT

I got hired by winston elliott to work for steve barbarich @ vacation homes 365. At first, they made it seem like i was actually working for airbnb. Later to find out it was majestic ventures llc owned by liz pearson & steve barbarich. My title was guest relations, then became property manager, to managing director, to general manager, to "5% owner" [censored]! i started a cleaning company for him called 365 cleaners and he owes me over $20,000 for the unpaid cleanings and fired me after i resigned my position in his company. Then him and winston lied to the clients regarding my absence and are only stealing from all clients! they claim to have the properties stocked up with essentials for the guests and to visit the homes when they never do. They charge a linens fee that is not existant. They keep the money from all claims filed and charge the guests for losses. They have the same codes for every lockbox and keypad and hardly change them. They claim to have a security guard that only works on weekends. They get double bookings and leave guests that have traveled thousands of miles stranded and keep their money. They tell staff to ignore angry homeowners but i simply could not. He caused great distress to me and my family and took advantage of me in every single way possible to later dispose of me as if i didnt matter. He never cared to hear any updates regarding issues with properties, staff members, cleaning crews, ect. He is a bad man. I cant believe anyone would stay with him because he pays good money. Eventually he will screw you over too. Dont be fooled. Mark my words. I have gone to the department of labor, hours and wages, irs, and have an attorney to stop this maniac. He has all his clients scared that if they terminate he will not pay them. Then he rehired a cleaning crew called terry's cleaning service with the owner "bernadette ramos" who initiated all the controversy between his clients in the first place by allowing her brother james young to claim he had done business with vacation homes 365 when it was not true. His property was being renovated since he bought it last year and he does business with evolve. They are all a bunch of thieves. Then winston does the same business and works with him too. They are all bad news. I feel bad for anyone who thinks they are making money with him. He over works his staff endless hours and always pays late and cuts salary.

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Bornfreelivefree
Los Angeles, US
Jun 07, 2022 2:20 am EDT

Winston Elliott and Steve Barbarich are made of the same feather? You may check Winston's booking with the LA sheriff department (lasd.org). And why is Steve walking around free? Perhaps, he has not been properly served? With the many people here crying fraud, it's time he faces the music. Check with the Finance Office of the City of LA for his address. In the meantime, Steve is lounging by the pool in his Hollywood Hills manse. With his European luxe cars parked in front - all thanks to all of you for chipping in to sustain his lifestyle.

beauetienne@outlook.com

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6658339a
Los Angeles, US
May 03, 2021 8:02 pm EDT
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Steve Barbarich is a fraud. I made the very poor decision to allow this guy (and his company vactionhomes365.com) to manage an investment home that I own as a short term (vacation) rental in Los Angeles. His operation was a disaster and I recently had to fire him . His team regularly failed to do what they were supposed to do. After I gave him a 30 day notice of termination on March 1, 2021, we collected about $20k in rental revenue at the property. His management terminated on April 1 but now (May 3, 2021) over a month later he still hasn't paid me any of the money that he collected in March. His lies change from week to week on when he will pay me. I have hired a lawyer and I will be suing him. Steve Barbarich is an absolute fraud, do not make the mistake that I did in entrusting him with anything.

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Yeti S
, US
Mar 14, 2020 4:48 pm EDT

I just found this - Who makes websites about himself like this? I'm convinced he is a certifiable nutjob, possibly even dangerous to society.

https://stevebarbarich.brandyourself.com/Links
https://www.issuewire.com/who-is-steve-barbarich-his-ventures-and-his-mission-1632213253133916
https://www.issuewire.com/steve-barbarich-e-commerce-success-to-vacation-rental-business-1626404683590602
https://stevebarbarich.jimdofree.com/2019/08/06/steve-barbarich-and-his-ways-towards-success/
https://stevenbar2014.wixsite.com/stevebarbarich/post/ways-steve-barbarich-improved-customer-satisfaction-among-vacation-rental-guests-via-vacationhomes36
https://stevebarbarichphilanthropy.org/
https://www.travpr.com/pr-77564-steve-barbarich.html

"But these days, Barbarich has been synonymous to building an empire in the world of business."

"He made waves when he experienced success as an entrepreneur in e-commerce. Considering the difficulties that he had to face, he became the epitome of success when it comes to e-commerce."

Other warnings:

https://www.stromtrooper.com/threads/warning-about-dealing-with-steve-barbarich.353225/

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Adam 222
, US
Mar 13, 2020 7:13 pm EDT

I wish I read these comments before! He's now moved into vacation rentals! He's the worst! First of all, he takes all kinds of expenses out of what he gives you and doesn't tell you in advance. I found out he makes a profit on top of what he pays the cleaners and underpays them, which is no wonder why I got complaints for my home not being clean enough and I lost my 5 star rating! He takes a big part of the profit and then takes over a month to get you your money and after his deductions, you're PAYING to rent out your home! I had to cut ties with him and take my house back and start doing it myself. DO NOT TRUST THIS PERSON! HE HAS A LONG PAST OF FRAUD! HE IS NOT WORTH ALL OF THE TROUBLE, HEADACHE, OR MONEY!

The company is called Vacation Homes 365

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LFA1999
, US
Jan 27, 2021 12:24 am EST
Replying to comment of Adam 222

I have had the same experience! He is a fraud and is stealing from his clients. Beware home owners of Steve Barbarich. He claims he is mana find your rentals but you only see a fraction of what is booked

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Lucian - Palace Hotel & Resort - Romania
, RO
Feb 28, 2016 6:25 am EST

I represent the company Palace Hotel & Resort in Romania and I paid $ 49, 300 for this crook
On December 2, 2013 I paid $ 26, 300 and $ 23, 000 on the date of January 27, 2014
The payments we made to the company Value Point Distribution LLC partial payments for 15 spa.
I fail to recover any products and none of these payments.
Ion Lucian
ionlucian@palacehotel.ro

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kayla :)
, US
Jan 28, 2011 5:46 pm EST

I have 3 addresses: 767 Bryant Avenue Suite 201, San Francisco., 965 Sutter Street #319, and 555 4TH ST #919 Anyone who is having trouble with this man should call The San Francisco District Attorney, Consumer Protection Unit. There is a criminal case against him now.

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bjohnson
Coronado, US
Jan 12, 2011 5:54 am EST
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I TOTALLY AGREE, WE HAVE TO BAND TOGETHER AND STOP HIM... I 2 PURCHASED CAL FLAME PRODUCTS FROM STEVE BABABICH ----- 6 MO'S AGO which he wanted in a Cashier's Check - approx.$6, 500...TODATE HAVE RECEIVED NOTHING. I AM ASKING FOR ANY HELP WITH INFORMATION ON MR. BARBARICH, HOME ADDRESS, CELL PHONE # AND HOW TO FIND HIM... ECT. ANY HELP APPRECIATED. (LET'S PUT HIM WHERE HE BELONGS )
" PRISON"

bjohnson92118@yahoo.com

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Adam 222
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Mar 13, 2020 7:14 pm EDT
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Did you find his contact info?

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latka7
Santa Cruz, US
Apr 02, 2010 8:30 am EDT
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This is getting strange. It seems that Steve Barbarich does not like it when you don't allow him to rip you off. I got all of my money back for my defective tub through my credit card company. After I was susccessful with that I hear that he then refused to accept credit cards so that it would cut off that recourse of action for customers who have been ripped off. Steve didn't have a minute to spend on me when I was calling him and writing him with complaints but now that I got my money back from him he's tracked me down on Facebook and wants to "be my friend". On Facebook he goes by Steve Imaloser Barbarich. Perfectly appropriate because he is a real lose, as in "I'm a loser", middle name used on Facebook. This guy is really sick and is going to be in a lot more trouble than just selling bad merchandise if he keeps up the cyber-stalking of people who have refused to be ripped off by him. CG

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texastrue
Castroville, US
Apr 01, 2010 10:58 pm EDT

Well, I too got ripped off by Steve but it's not over yet, by a long shot. This guy can't do this and get away with it anymore. I personally have went to every federal, state AND local agencies for a total of about 20 written complaints. The San Fran DA office is the big one right now I guess. Scamming with defective tubs is not cool. We'll get him, hang tight! Oh, i had a wire melt that didn't even throw the breaker IN the tub, it threw the extra one I had installed. The first day! Lots of mess to follow that also. Here's the wire...I have a file so thick on this and every email!

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NoMoreHotTubsDirect!
Tekamah, US
Feb 03, 2010 12:05 pm EST

If anyone wants my help, you got it!
I have all email transcripts between Steve Barbarich and myself as well as pics of the tub as it was delivered.

click the send email link at the top of this thread.
it will give you page which says, "send email to mike'.
email me with your phone if you like and I'll call you and will
send all the docs I have.

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Marnielynne
Sinking Spring, US
Jan 27, 2010 3:01 pm EST

My Grandma is working with a lawyer in CA who is looking for depositions from others who have been ripped off by this company. If you want to help us try and take him down, please contact me. I don't have all the details yet, just trying to get a list of folks who have also been scammed.

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Marnielynne
Sinking Spring, US
Dec 17, 2009 6:40 pm EST

After months of trying to track down a real physical address where she could serve him, she did. She went to court this Dec (09) and won her case, but who knows if she'll ever see the money. This guy and his company are total scam artists.

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ihatestevebarbarich
San Francisco, US
Sep 15, 2009 9:52 pm EDT

This guy is a total sociopath. He'd rather screw someone over and spend endless amounts of time gaming the BBB the Attorney General offices and the rest of the system, than just delivering what his customers have paid for.

Steve was never, ever, going to send the tub your grandmother ordered.

His game is wearing you down like latka7 said, hoping you'll give up and walk away.

He uses the purchase 'agreement' that says you understand there could be delays, blah blah blah. Well, he has that in there to 'delay' the shipment indefinitely. Then after a few months he claims you've given up all rights to complain or get your money back because you agreed to that.

if you try small claims court it would help if she's in California. she'll probably win, but if she's out of state, good luck getting it enforced. this jerk will never pay up.

If you hire a lawyer it will cost you as much for the lawyer as you'll get back.

If you throw in the towel, his refund will be probably less than half of what you paid.

If you drag it out long enough he will probably send you a 'better' tub. That's total BS too, but at least you will have something.

I've been through this with him, it's hell. But you just can't let up on him. I eventually got a 'better' tub that he appartenly got at Costco. It was about the same size as the one i ordered but didn't have all of the options that i paid for.

Zaba search has addresses and phone numbers for this creep.

This guy seriously needs to be taken down.

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Marnielynne
Sinking Spring, US
Sep 15, 2009 3:11 pm EDT

He is ripping of my 80 year old Grandmother too. She ordered a hot tub in April. It was suppose to have been "in stock". I guess it must have been in stock in China. 8-11 weeks later it still hadn't come so she called to cancel. The customer service girl who answered the phone told her she would receive a refund and even gave her a check #. The check never came. When she called to find out where her money was, the girl said the owner, Steve Barbarich decided not to give her a refund, but that her spa would be delivered in late September and he'd give her a better warranty. She tried to take him to small claims court, but the address listed on the website came back as undeliverable. She is very upset and does not know what to do. She is on the West coast and I am on the East and I am trying my best to help her. Unfortunately, she paid by check. If anyone has a legit address we can use to serve him, I would greatly appreciate it.

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latka7
Santa Cruz, US
Aug 20, 2009 9:03 pm EDT
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I strongly agree with this posting. I placed an order with Steve Bararich for a product that was to be delivered in 8-11 weeks. It is now 19 weeks later, no tub. I called to cancel my order and ask for my money back. I was told they could cancel my order but would be keeping $, 1500 of my money. I was referred to the cancellation policy on the contract. I checked out the policy and found it only applies to in-stock orders that are paid for with a $500 initial installment, the balance to be paid in 30 days. My order was for a product that was not in-stock and was paid for in full at the time of order, at the insistence of Steve Barbarich. I have filed a complaint with my credit card company and the State Attorney General's Office. I have no doubt I will prevail, as I have with other rip-off companies, like DirecTV. You just have to stay after them. They are hoping you will give up and then they will keep your money.

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Sam
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Nov 15, 2008 12:27 am EST

I have worked with Barbarich in one of his past companies, and I can agree that he is a crook. I also have no doubt that he is breaking the law.

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Curious
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Oct 17, 2008 1:22 pm EDT

Can you email me directly with your information concerning this company. I am doing some research and possible public reviews on the product.

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