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Alabama Trophy Whitetails/Florida Slam Outfitters / Dishonest Outfitter

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Alabama Trophy Whitetails is indeed not what any hunter would expect. We arrived on January 14, 2010 for a 3 day hunt starting on Friday, January 15. When we arrived we found out that the "lodge" was double booked for our hunt. Pete uses your deposit to lease land which he, his family, and friends hunt as well. His website claims only 6 hunters at a time are allowed to hunt. The best we could figure when we arrived, including us, there were over 20 people (family, friends, and paying hunters) at his "lodge" of which most were expecting to hunt. Even though I personally had traveled over 1000 miles to hunt with Pete, my group turned around and left the same night. We could clearly see through this scam operation.

Here are some points that every hunter should consider before booking a hunt with Pete:

1) The lodge is actually his home and you share his families personal kitchen.
2) The hunter bedroom accommodations consist of two eight foot by eight foot rooms each containing 2 bunk beds that could sleep a total of 8 people. If four hunters were to stay in one of these rooms there would be no room for any gear.
3) There is one shower for Pete and his family plus hunters.
4) Pete signed a contract to refund our down-payment before we left and more than a month after this hunt was supposed to happen we have not received our refund.
5) Even though Pete admitted he knew he was double booked a couple of days before we arrived he never called to let us know this situation. I am sure he thought that after we had traveled so far we would stay no matter what the hunting conditions were.
6) Pete has no hunting land adjoining the "lodge". Over half of Pete's land is over 30 miles away from the" lodge".
7) No paying hunter we talked to had seen a deer the day we arrived but most of Pete's guide/hunting friends claimed to have seen deer. One even made a special point to indicate the spotting of the same 10 point buck they had been having encounters with all season. Unfortunately, Pete had told one guy from our group that they finally shot the 10 pointer they had been seeing the week before we arrived. Talk about getting caught in a string of lies.
8) The "lodge" appears to be a sided trailer house with a small addition. You share 1 full bathroom with all other hunters and Pete's family.
9) We bought our hunting license on-line. The Alabama Department of Natural Resources refunded our license fee and took down as much information about Pete's operation as we could give them.

I certainly question Pete's honesty and integrity as a person and outfitter. You certainly cannot believe much (if anything) he tells you.

A very disappointed hunter.

Tom

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  • Fs
      8th of Mar, 2010
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    i completly disagree whith this complaint yes the lodge was over booked by 4 paid hunters and i offered to buy this upset group of hunters hotel rooms while they were hunting, as fare as 20 or so people hunting there was my 4 other hunters my self my wife my 2 guides and 2 cousins that camp on my property while they hunt and as for not haveing land ajoining my lodge i have over 600 acre ajoining my lodge to the west and aditional 400+ acres less than ahalf mile from the lodge to the south east we also have over 1000 acres 6 miles to west of the lodge and yes i did have land around 30 miles away 260 acre that does seem like almost all my land is over 30 miles away doesint . as fare as talking to my hunters in the camp there were no over lappining hunters there when they arived i had 4 people hunting that 2 husband and wife groups which had seen 9 deer that evning including missing a nice 8 point and passing on a respetible 6 point and the 4 hunters who stayed in camp saw plenty of deer over the next 3 days including taking a nice 8 point and 2 does so our small lodge with 2 8 by 8 rooms are rooms a are big unuff to fit 2 bunk beds in each room with around two and half feet inbetween each bed and 3 feet in front of the beds so i think they are bigger than 8 by 8 but im no enginier im a hunting guide and the one full bath is not shared with my famly we have our own bath room in our bed room but yes my famly is invold in my hunting busnes thats just they way it is it might not be for everybody but we try to cater to the famly hunting experince thanks pete owner of florida slam outfitters and alabama trophy whitetails.

  • Jb
      13th of Apr, 2010
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    i ve hunted with pete several times and i was in shock when i read this comment...and have seen plenty of deer, as a matter of fact my 16 yr son took a nice 8pt last year.His land is in several tracts, some with in walking distance and yes one area that was 20 min drive.pete has a family atmispher his wife helps him put hunters out when she is there.if he doesnt cook you, or his wife cook you dinner than they take you to town and buy it for you.ive never seen a guide try harder to make his customers happy than him...i disagree with the comments written about pete and his camp...

  • Ne
      28th of Apr, 2011
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    This review is to inform anyone contemplating doing business with Alabama Trophy Whitetails (Pete Kemmsies) of my experience. In November of 2010 a friend asked me if I wanted to hunt at Alabama Trophy whitetails with him in January of 2011. My friend said he had met Pete at a show in Lakeland, FL and he seemed like a pretty good guy. I said yes and contacted Pete Kemmsies of Alabama Trophy whitetails and sent him a deposit by check for $425. As January rolled around one of our party found some negative reviews on line, we contacted Pete and he said ”You couldn’t satisfy everyone.” We believed him and decided to continue with our hunt. Two days (Jan 12) before we were to leave for Alabama Pete Kemmsies called and canceled the hunt, saying that it had been a bad year and felt as though if we didn’t have a good hunt no one would be happy. At this time Pete stated that he would return our deposits within a week.
    To make a long story shorter it is now April 14, 2011 and we have yet to receive our deposit back. Pete has made a multitude of promises and excuses but no results. We have been very patient and even offered a quasi payment plan with no results.
    I feel as though I have been lied to and robbed of my hard earned money while trying to be above board by an unscrupulous business person. I would warn anyone thinking of doing business with Alabama Trophy Whitetails or anything Pete Kemmsies has to do with (it appears that he also runs a business called Florida Slam outfitters) to be very careful and learn from our loss. I should have done my home work, there are several negative reviews and I should have heeded their advice.
    I can be contacted at newtonfishman@aol.com

  • Ri
      4th of May, 2011
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    'Dear Newtonfishman, I am very sorry that you, like I, and MANY others have fallen victim to a such a pathetic, pathological. degenerate. I do want to express my sincere thanks for bringing the disposition of his websites to my attention. I can assure you that you probably will not get the satisfaction of any of your monetary refund, much less a phone call, but I can assure you that the necessary deed that you have performed in posting your experience to fellow hunters is invaluable. It is scary the amount of phone calls that I have received in reference to this matter. Scary in the sense that there is no telling how many others that have been scammed of their time and money, and that have not come across these posts and been blindly robbed. Scary that even though I have been involved in law enforcement for some 22 years and have had contact with the highest authorities in reference to this matter, how little the industry of "outfitter" is regulated. What is ashame is that at least an armed robbers intent is blatantly obvious. Whereas this scoundrel prays on multiple victims simultaneously, and continuously, with a mental sickness that has absolutely no remorse. Premeditated, and openly advertised. An ongoing conscious effort to rob and deceive people thru their weakness if you may, their great passion, to recklessly, rapidly and costly, engage in a tremendous pasttime of fair chase, comradery, and sportsmanship. Even though I have never gotten my groups money back, I have had the great pleasure and satisfaction in converseing and enlightening fellow hunters as to this scam and again, you should feel the same satisfaction for doing your part in helping to expose this attrocity and poor excuse of a human being. Its a double dose of hurt to be scammed by someone that is supposed to be engaged in such a moral and social, brotherhood type of sport. Kind of like a brother that stabs you in the back. Seems like it goes deeper into your feelings unlike a complete stranger doing the same. I will gladly pass this torch of information to those authorities that I have previously contacted and I will hope that others that read these attempts to help protect thy fellow hunter, unselfishly do so with the same act of kindness that you have. Thanks again for your efforts. Richard

  • Ne
      29th of May, 2011
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    You're welcome Richard, Hopefully we can inform enough potential clients that Pete will eventually have to get a real job and stop stealing from honest people. We need to continue to be vigilent and check other sites for Scams that he sets up and inform people. I have to agree this is kind of interesting to see how many lies one person can come up with, Pete is pretty imaginative with the varied excuses of why he has not sent refunds

  • St
      24th of Jun, 2011
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    me and a buddy hunted with this loser at his so called camp what a joke when i booked at the show in fl he told me he had a nice bunk house for us, well when we got there it was a hotel (suppose the bunk house brunt down ooooook) so we had to pay for rooms ? with no discount off the hunt mind you we booked a 5 day hunt and then come back and hunt 5 more days with my brother that paid in full (bad, its been 2 years and becuse we had such a joke of a hunt we ask for my brothers money back pete said he would, yell right ) 1st told pete i had a bad back and could not hunt out of a tree stand he told me he had some good spots with ground blinds. one was sitting on the cold nov, ground with a shower curtin around you what a joke the next was a metal chair setting on the top of a pile of old logs pushed over the the log comp the clear cut back in 1800's lol, i could go on and on about the hunt but i dont have the time but i will add this when petes wife found out i had to take pain med's for my back she said that she was out of her med and if she could have 2 well the 4 days we where there at all times of the day and into the evning she would tx me knock on my room door and ask for 2-3-and 5 i went to pete and told him about this and he told me that shes a pill head. in closing like the other hunter pete over booked us also and he had to make two to 3 trips to the hunting club that he hunted 45mim away out of 12-14 hunters i small buck was shot and that was the only deer seen, as you read we left on day 4 i was to the point that i wanted to kick his fat butt do not book a hunt with this man if thats what you will call him and if you do go dont tell his wife if you take med's PETE YOUR A LOSER AND A LIE'ER,

  • St
      24th of Jun, 2011
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    update PETE KEMMSIES AKA, FLORIDA SLAM OUTFITTERS, AKA, ALABAMA TROPHY WHITETAILS, now is trying to run a outfitting SCAM UNDER THE NAME OF SOUTH CAROLINA HUNTS, PHONE #850-843-4211. WEB SITE southcarolinahunts@gmail.com. PETE THE CHEAT AND WIFE MEGAN BOTH HAVE FACEBOOK PAGE'S ""FYI"" and if you look you will see the only good comment about PETE THE CHEAT is from newtonfishman which is the same thats now sue'ing PETE THE CHEAT IN FLORIDA FOR $2000.00 i would think this is the guy and his son that was up with us on are hunt and this man and son does PETE THE CHEAT mount work, ? side note when we got there two buck heads where on the side walk in front of PETE THE CHEAT room and to are under standing these two bucks where killed days before we got there the heads stick so bad you could smell them thru out the hotel (the hotel staff ask pete to remove there smell'ed so bad) the trash bags they where in was full of fly's so they the heads where there a bit longer then a few days, PETE THE CHEAT said the hunters left the heads so petes taxid man would mount then, the taxid man said he would have to find new skin for the mounts due to the fact PETE THE CHEAT let them setout and rut, just one more way to get your money pay up front for taxid work that you will never get i bet. last time i saw the two buck heads they where in a trash can ????? .

  • Ne
      27th of Jun, 2011
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    Sticker PT from newtonfishman. Sticker I beleive you have me mixed up with another commentor. Please review my comments and you will see that I have nothing positive to say about Pete or his scams. The only positive comments appear to be written by Pete because the comments are full of spelling errors and in my correspondence with Pete I have learned that he cannot spell and doesn't know how to use spell check

  • St
      30th of Jun, 2011
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    newtonfishman sorry for that you are right i do have you mixed up wrong person sorry for that but if you look thru all the post on this site you will find one with your site name giving pete a thumbs ups, this site does not list all comments in a roll you have to type in all pete's outfitter names and they will show up at 3 to 4 at a time but sorry about the mix up, i was wrong did he get you for a hunt are did ou work for him ?.

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