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Marcy's Goldens Marcy Vance review: Puppy Mill 21

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Running a contest because she is a puppy mill is the true fact and trying to overcome her bad name what is of the truth and is written all over the world and internet about her and is in fact no lies. So sad for all these un-vaccinated dogs and puppies that are on this puppy mill farm living in kennels. please buy from this lady to rescue these poor animals but when you buy from her only offer $200.00 at the most and ask for a guarantee that covers everything included with the puppy at that price for 2 years at least being there are very sick dogs dead dogs all over the place at this kennel house that has numerous dogs and only 1 person that cares for them. Look at their well being when you go out to this farm you will see what I mean. Dogs filthy never bathed smell like feces and urine knots on them hanging to the ground with gnats all in their fur. drinking dirty water out of green black-green mold plastics. what a mess this place is. make sure you show up there without an appointment you will see it all for yourself. Dear God rescue all these poor animals.

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Update by puppymillsneed2beshutdown
Jun 12, 2011 2:59 am EDT

who in the world is Lea Winkler? No this is from me myself. I wrote this with regards to what I have seen my self out there at Marcys place when looking to buy a puppy from this lady. I see you are all over the internet complaints board with a massive amount of comments in reviews is this what you do for a living is comment on everybody's reviews and blame others for that did not write it but me?

Dont blame others that I do not know because I do not like it when I in fact did it myself. Go to this lady's house yourself and you will see what I mean.

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Chrwdwk
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Jul 06, 2018 10:43 pm EDT
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Marcy Vance is now charging more for her puppies in her puppy mill kennel in NC. Reason why is because she is paying her friend to let her take the puppies and the parents to her house with helping her bathe them and do all the pictures and photographs there so it looks like you are buying a quality dog from her with the environment that the pics show in them when in fact NOT. She honestly is in fact the biggest nastiest Puppy Mill that you have ever seen in North Carolina. She used to charge $1500.00 per puppy now she is charging $2500.00 so she can give her friend $1000.00 each puppy in letting her use her home and place in selling her puppies. Watch out everybody. She is a Puppy Mill Scam!

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Teresa Myers Jeffers
, US
Jun 04, 2018 4:41 pm EDT

I purchased my sweet Leia Feb 2018. My family is so in love with this incredible dog. She’s the sweetest and smartest dog we have ever had. I had contacted Marcy before I purchased her and Marcy educated me in so many ways and continues to do so. She a amazing lady who loves all her babies. I’m so thankful I found her.

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Chrwdwk
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Jul 06, 2018 11:08 pm EDT
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If she in fact loved them, they would not be living in cages with never being groomed with walking in their own urine and feces with 2-4 inch toe nails on them. Read all the controversy out there. Go to her own home not her friends home that she uses to sell her puppies in.

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Huazhi Hu
, US
Jun 04, 2018 4:12 pm EDT

Updating. my puppy is now almost 7 months old. He is very healthy and so wonderful for the family!

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Chrwdwk
, US
Jul 06, 2018 11:20 pm EDT
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Wow, Look at that long nose. If that was a quality golden, he surely would not look like Pinocchio. He surely looks very back yard bred if you ask me just as all those dead dogs all over her place too.

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So Young Dancer
, US
Apr 17, 2018 3:01 pm EDT

FYI: I will send more update on my puppy...

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So Young Dancer
, US
Apr 17, 2018 2:51 pm EDT

My name is Huahua. We recently went to Marcy's place to pick up my puppy. We felt we made the right decision to get this green boy. The dog is healthy and calm. We understood Marcy can only provide the limited quality condition to breed all her family dogs due to her age and financial. Life is difficult for a lady who lost her husband, and she kept working so hard for her family only by herself. No matter how hard it is, I felt she is doing her best to take care of the family. Marcy is so sweet and brave! I wish all the best for her and her family! Strongly recommend this breeder for you, if you are looking for a puppy that is loyalty and good with kids. The Marcy's golden retriever will be one of your choices. We will provide the best of life quality for my GREEN BOY. -Hachi.

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Chrwdwk
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Jul 06, 2018 11:11 pm EDT
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Read all the controversy out there. Go to her own home not her friends home that she uses to sell her puppies in.

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fortheloveofgod
Nasheville, US
Jul 12, 2016 4:51 pm EDT
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I disagree with Marcy's friend DogsAreAwesome writing post on here of Marcy's supposed competitor but not only that Marcy was Lea's really good friend since 2002 and told them where to buy their dogs from of Golden Duck years ago which Marcy has learned majority of all her newest and latest breeding ethics from Lea herself even to June 2016 which has not bred dogs since early year 2014 so I do not know how you can say or claim that information stating run on sentences are from Lea herself. They sold all their dogs but one of them that is age 6. Marcy knew nothing about PRA 1 PRA 2 as well as ICT ichthyosis, Lea taught Marcy all this just recently even though she does not breed anymore of knowing all this knowledge herself since 2011 of Optigen testings from her own dogs. Marcy knew nothing at all other then to breed whatever dogs to whatever dogs creating bad genetics on all the offspring on them "as in who cares". Instead of thanking Lea for her help and knowledge she had given Marcy; you just decided to stab her in the back instead being Lea is no longer Marcy's friend ever again due to the way Marcy treats her, down talks her with her ugliness, and is argumentative always right with arguing with her all the time. There are more then one side to Marcy, she is not the religious person that he makes herself out to be at all. You and Marcy should have paid Lea for her knowledge and all her time, not dig her dignity and soul into the ground by writing crap on line about her of which is not true, Lea is a very nice person that will do anything to help others for free even, she has a very big heart and people like this are very hard to find. Start talking crap on yourself on the internet and if not I will do it for you so you can see what it feels like yourself. I know a awful lot on Marcy Vance to post on here and if you want to get ugly with all this I will post it all on line for the world to see what kind of a person that she really is as well as her family too. As they say, " what goes around comes around."

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Mild Pruzen
Boise, US
May 28, 2016 11:27 am EDT
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Marcy has 30 dogs and breeds them to each other that are not supposed to be. She is creating bad genetics in this breed. This lady never does vaccines, exams on her dogs, nor does she have heart worm tested either. She lets the old ones stay there u till death on her property being she does not put any animal down when suffering. She has this thing where live in my cages until you all die on the ground in their own feces and urine. Make sure when you go to her place look how well her dogs are full groomed and especially look at their 4 inch toe nails they have along with the clumps of feces urine in all their coats. This woman is a for sure puppy mill breeding in her 70's being all alone just for money. She thinks she is acquiring the best dogs out there but then they are nothing but crap and inline breeding she is doing too. Stay away from this puppy mill filthy kernel. Trust me, you will yhank me later. The reviews on here that are not talking bad on here are her friends weighting the reviews for her to make her look good when in fact not, she is just a filthy puppy mill is all that has no interaction with any of her dogs. Her house is loaded with dogs too and you should smell the odor in there...oh my! This place is a disgrace. Don't forget when you get putti her place you are walking on dead dogs everywhere all over her property. Just so very sad and awful. Trust me you want to buy elsewhere.

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DogsAreAwesome
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Dec 13, 2015 9:30 pm EST
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Photo posted is not from Marcy's. We have one of her dogs--couldn't be happier! Best dog with the best temperament. These disparaging remarks are all from the same person--her competitor, Lea Winkler. Always types in run-on sentences. You'll be very pleased with Marcy and her dogs :)

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Chrwdwk
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Jul 06, 2018 11:18 pm EDT
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That person has not bred dogs since 2013 so it can not be that person, so get a grip! Also how do you know if she uses run on sentences or not. Please! Just anything to say to bash somebody else that does not even breed anymore just to keep her name in the loop, I guess. Sounds just as Marcy would do to somebody that used to be her friend for like 10 years, isn't that the truth. I would not be her friend anymore either after seeing her place and what is all out there on Marcy too. She is one heck of a puppy mill that is for sure! This is all over the internet on Marcy too. Marcy Vance is now charging more for her puppies in her puppy mill kennel in NC. Reason why is because she is paying her friend to let her take the puppies and the parents to her house with helping her bathe them and do all the pictures and photographs there so it looks like you are buying a quality dog from her with the environment that the pics show in them when in fact NOT. She honestly is in fact the biggest nastiest Puppy Mill that you have ever seen in North Carolina. She used to charge $1500.00 per puppy now she is charging $2500.00 so she can give her friend $1000.00 each puppy in letting her use her home and place in selling her puppies. Watch out everybody. She is nothing but a Puppy Mill Scam!

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Sunny0600
, US
Dec 14, 2014 8:18 am EST

When I was 11 years old my family adopted a little female golden from Marcy. My family has always been animal lovers, we would never adopt from a puppy mill facility. We made several unplanned/unscheduled visits to Marcy's to visit her and her puppies. I remember touring her facility and seeing the 5 or 6 goldens she had, maybe to he one litter of puppies, and a few horses. Coming forward 14 years, my family still has our little golden puppy we adopted. She has been a very healthy and happy dog her entire life. Now, at 14 1/2 we can now see her health starting to decline and it breaks our hearts, but what a life! And a 14 1/2 year old golden retriever! How often do you even see that happen? I work at an animal hospital, every day I see grossly inbred 'purebred' dogs. And I'm always thankful and amazed my golden has had such a fulfilling and healthy life. I will say I haven't visited Marcy's kennels in years and I can't provide a testament to how they look now, but I can say I am eternally thankful to her for giving my family such an amazing member to our family.

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Tessies dad
, US
May 27, 2014 8:27 pm EDT

I feel ashamed of myself. I actually visited the kennel (she knew weeks in advance I was coming) and I still adopted from this kennel. I wish I had looked at what a real breeding kennel looked like. The place seemed clean enough but there were several separate cages and fenced in kennels, some nude a barn. She seemed sincere and kept me informed with progress and pictures as my Tessie grew up. I was given a discount because this was the first litter for Tessies mother. Now about 5 years later my Golden is having violent seizures and has for about three years. I honestly think she is inbred. Her seizures come about every four weeks. She has anywhere from 4 to 8 siezures on average but recently (last week) had about 15 over a three day period. They are violent and have taken their toll on her health. She looks 15 years old and has suffered brain damage. I was hesitant to write this on this page...I wanted to stay out of this bickering but after her seizures last week, and her deteriorated brain function, I just had to vent and possibly warn some future adopter from going through what I am now. I seriously believe she is inbred, and now looking back at the conditions of the kennel can see how that could have happened. Please seriously consider before adopting from here. If you have never seen what a clean wel run kennel looks like, go to a few and then visit this one. I know which way you will go. I love my Golden but this is unfair...mostly to Tessie.

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Angela.H
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Jan 09, 2023 5:55 pm EST

We too bought pups from her. Two of them, my sister & myself. Both beautiful very well behaved sweet lovable family pets but…. My dog, Maddie, whom we loved dearly had a small tumor we had removed from her head and vet said it was definitely genetic. She never did learn to fetch, only non retrieving retriever I ever knew. My sisters dog, Max, which was Maddie’s brother stated having seized like your dog after he was a few years old & it was horrible for their family & kids to witness and poor Max suffered. After years of vets, meds & still seizures he was euthanized when it became less of a quality of life for him. So sad. I fear she is inbreeding to get that ‘ultra light’ color and at the cost of genetic mutations. It’s sad and not fair to the animals or the new owners who welcome them into their life’s to love & them have to watch them suffer and the expense of vet bills can be astounding. I’m sad to hear so many other stories… we had no idea back then but I had my suspicions when it started happening to us. This was back in 2001 and as it looks it only got worse. Sad.

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Lover of Goldens
Burlington, US
Nov 06, 2013 8:46 am EST

Whoever started this needs to STOP! Marcy is a wonderful breeder and a very loving mother to all of her other animals! The picture shown is NOT from her kennel. I have been there numerous times and own 2 of her wonderful babies. Maybe her conditions are not the most ideal and I am sure she would love to have better but her money goes back into her dogs and their care, not in creating a fancy kennel to impress the world! You need to check into her background and her history with dogs, as well as her character! You obviously don't have much if you feel they need to publicly try to tear someone down like this! Anyone reading this that would like to talk to me personally, I would love to. Leave me an email address and I will send you my phone number.

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a persons heart stabbed to death
Phoenix, US
Sep 27, 2013 8:51 pm EDT

What a joke! have you seen her house and dogs to know what her place is and looks like? No because you are in California. Do you have any idea where her dogs mate at? They mate inside cages for your information and they never ever come out of them. So what do you call a place like this? Does this kind of place sound like a regular family breeder? No she has numerous dogs in each cage that never get to come out ever. You should see their toe nails how long they are. You should see all the mats in them for they never get washed nor bathed. They don't even have vaccines not even rabies vaccines. Go out to her place you cant judge it 2200 miles away from her and see the well being on her 30 something dogs she has in cages. Very sad so inhumane those poor dogs have no life no socialization she does not even have a connection with them other than calling out their names when going to feed them. Look how fast she answers emails sitting at the computer all day waiting for emails to come in to sell a dog and the phone calls are just so absolutely bizarre what she tell you on the phone just to sell a puppy too. When you got your puppy was it white in color or was it brown, what did it smell like when you got it? Don't even bother to answer these questions because I know all the answers myself. That tells you straight up puppy mill and in it only for the money is all and that is it. Poor dogs and poor puppies too! Somebody needs to buy the puppies just to rescue them out of her home is what it is but they are only worth $500.00 if that. If you only knew more as I do you would know all the truth of Marcy Vance and all her caged up dogs that are nasty.

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Kellie Arendt
Fresno, US
Dec 03, 2012 12:02 am EST

I can not believe that somebody would accuse Marcy of running a puppy mill... I'm from California and bought my golden from her and he was beautiful healthy clean... just amazing! He is the best dog we've ever had. He's huge and healthy still. So, shame on the person that is trying to hurt Marcy.. Why don't you talk to the people that have adopted from her before you go spouting off about something you know nothing about... We are getting ready to get another one and I'm proud to buy him from her. SHAME ON YOU

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realpuppymillsneed2beshutdown
, US
Nov 04, 2011 7:18 am EDT

Have purchased from the breeder. Do not agree. Will counter to both the original complaint and the subsequent posts with pictures attached

I have been up to the breeder's farm twice. I stress the word farm because when you arrive, a person will notice other farm animals inhabit the property. However, I am also not sure about the original picture attached because I never witnessed a concrete and chain link kennel with large amounts of animal droppings (picture of horse droppings has already been questioned in a previous post). The urine knots and other conditions were not observed on my visits, and I walked through the entire property where dogs resided and throughout the breeder's residence. You also forgot to mention the puppies and the mothers reside in the house with the breeder. I also question the complaint's request to go without an appointment because the breeder works by herself with dozens of golden retrievers to take care of. It would be impossible to pull a so-called smoke and mirrors trick all the time. However, that would become obvious upon arriving at the farm.

With both of my previously mentioned facts, I am unsure that you witnessed the same breeder because your description is vastly different from the one I have seen for myself.

As for the second post, it is a 'no brainer' to realize that the pictures from the website that have been attached in previous posts were used as a marketing tool. This does provide anything of substance; however, given the platform, it will automatically generate unfavorable impressions. It does not show any actual evidence of the breeder running a puppy mill. As for the most critical accusation, it does not take a 'rocket scientist' for one to do his/her research to confirm the sale of puppy laws. However, the accuser did not and provides further evidence to question this compliant with extreme prejudice. However, for anyone interested, the link has been attached not showing any evidence of illegal sales of puppies prior to eight as illegal in the state of North Carolina. Thus, the accusation of lying to the vet/airlines about the DOB is incorrect.
http://www.animallaw.info/articles/ovuspuppysaletable.htm

In my conclusion, I write this to ask the readers to do as the original poster, go up to the breeder's farm and decide for yourself. I personally put the effort to provide a logical counter argument because the absolute disagreement with my observations while visiting the farm. As for the subsequent posts, it is unfortunate the accusations were made because they without merit, research, and/or knowledge of the subject. If counter arguments are to follow, I request them to address the actual subject at hand and not to my disagreement. Anything of the latter will just provide nothing more than justification than the compliant being nothing more than the common practice of Internet misinformation (which needs to be 2 shut down).

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peony lane
USA, US
Jul 16, 2011 11:35 pm EDT

The picture included with the original complaint is not from Marcy's Goldens place. Check your information.

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Hello!!
, US
Jul 03, 2011 3:35 pm EDT

Your fault for buying a mixed breed dog. Next time do more research or go to the pound and adopt a mixed breed dog instead