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Of course I was not surprised to have problems with the California FTB. I was trying to file state taxes. After registering and filling up a number of questions, I was told to go to my email for the code and then click on the link to register. When I clicked on the link it disappeared! I then went to the FTB home page and tried to log in. It said my account...

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Hello, This is Michael Doerr speaking. My complaint is that I was double-billed for the 2022 tax bill. I paid for the tax bill of $700 which was $699 rounded up, using the ACI payments inc system. This happened in 3/30/2023. I called the Franchise Tax Board and asked if my payment was acknowledged. They said yes and that there should be no reason to expect...

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In Apr. 2013, The Ca. Franchise Tax Board put a lien on my husbands bank acct. They ended up deducting a total of $6, 800.00+ from his acct. When he called to find out what he had to do to get the funds returned, he was told he just needed to file his taxes. Well, this is easier said than done. My husband is a self-employed carpenter. After the economic...

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California Franchise Tax Board Tax credit unfair practice for First time home owner

I would like to file a complaint for your record about Tax credit unfair practice for First time home owner.
 
On March 26, 2010, AB 183 was passed by the legislature on March 22 and gives the Franchise Tax Board authority to extend a total of $200 million in tax credits to California homebuyers; The credit will be extended from May 1, 2010 to December 31, 2010. The tax credit will be available to buyers on a first-come, first-served basis and is applied in equal amounts over a period of three taxable years.
 
Yet the AB does not say a limit 14 days after the closing of escrow.  At that time most people believe that it would be the same as  IRS Credit for first time home owner.
 
I bought my first home and closed escrow account on 05/19/2010.  My realtor as well as the escrow employees did not know about this 14 days limit. No body told me about that until I visited FTB website on 06/07/2010. Even though, it was late 5 days, I faxed my application on that day. And my application was denied.
 
There is only Website of  FTB saying about this limit.  The time from the date signed by Governor Schwarzenegger to the date my escrow closed was too short to spread the information of the 14 days limit imposed by FTB.  I believe it is unfair and unethical practice. It is unfair because it is not a first-come, first-served basis as the law said.  I submitted application and bought a house first, but my application was denied because 14 day limit. Whereas, other homeowners bought a house after me and submitted application after mine, but their application were approved.
  
FTB should announce clearly and widely on radio, TV, not only on its website and should allow the time enough for the information reach the recipients.   
FTB should do more and clear because normal people may assume it is the same as IRS.  I believe that FTB law of 14 day limitation is not a mirror of Governor Schwarzenegger mind.
 
If you visit this web site on 03/26/2010 you can see no info about 14 days limit law of FTB.
 
http://california.realestaterama.com/2010/03/26/governor-schwarzenegger-signs-10000-homebuyer-tax-credit-legislation-ID0583.html

FTB 14 days annoucement
http://www.ftb.ca.gov/individuals/new_home_credit.shtml?WT.mc_id=HP_Feature_HomeCredit_Hed

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Update by lichtran
Jan 27, 2011 6:06 pm EST

If you are victim like me, please email to your legislators about this unfair unethical practice.

You may edit my email and send to:

http://www.tranlich.com/AB183/email_congress.htm

http://www.sen.ca.gov/~newsen/senators/senemail.htp

http://www.assembly.ca.gov/clerk/MEMBERINFORMATION/memberdir_1.asp

I collect public opinion about AB183, please see update at:
http://www.tranlich.com/AB183/

Update by lichtran
Jan 26, 2011 3:13 am EST

more info at http://www.tranlich.com/AB183/

Update by lichtran
Jan 25, 2011 10:29 pm EST

Here is a replied from FTB

Thank you for visiting the FTB website.

AB 183 does establish a 14 day deadline to receive your application in Section 17059.1.c.1.A and also Section 17059.1.h. The 14 day deadline was an increase from the deadline for the 2009 New Home Credit which was 7 days. As for spreading information about the program there were articles in newspapers and television reports from beginning of March 2010. While all these would get the word out about the program it is the buyer responsibility to find out all the details of the program when they apply for it. The most important place we could put the 14 day deadline would be on the instructions for the application. The deadline is stated on the instructions for the application in several sections to make it clear as you fill out the application. The link you provided was just a published article not the actual bill, I have attached a copy of the bill for you to review.

Please visit our website again if we can assist you further.

My answer:

 From: Lich
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 6:53 AM
To: 'WSCS.GEN'
Subject: RE: Homebuyer Tax credit unfair practice.

Dear Sir,

It was my error to complaint the FTB. I am very sorry.

Still, AB 183 is unfair and unethical assembly bill. It should be amended. I have filed my complaint to Attorney General, Governor, California Congress and also put the complaint to Internet, blogs, facebooks, twitter …. as much as I can. I also asked Senator and Assembly men in my district.

This unfair unethical law may contain “Reserving New Home Credit to benefit one specific group secretly.” It really is a wrong way to create a hostile environment for our society. How can we account for the fairness of a first-come, first-served basis?

Why did not reduce the amount so more people have access to the tax credit.? Why not $2000 for each?
Why was not based on Closing account Date for the first 10, 000 application?
Why there was a too shot time of only two weeks? Not three months? Buying/selling a house is not the same as a car.

Thank you very much for your great service, it is not FTB false. It is the congress wrong doing.
Also I will use you your email to complaint my realtor and loan officers to BBB, FTC, and State Board because they email me encourage to buy a house for $10, 000 credit. And I relied on their message. But they failed to notify me 14 days limit.

Respectfully,

Update by lichtran
Jan 24, 2011 4:53 am EST

The AB183 really says about "two weeks limit". Therefore the tile will change to *** California Tax Credit AB 183 violates first-come, first-served basis*** http://www.tranlich.com/AB183/

Update by lichtran
Jan 24, 2011 4:51 am EST

The funny thing is that they allow "Reserving a New Home Credit Before Escrow Closes" and
then FTB cry out :"... As shown in the numbers below, we have received New Home Credit reservation requests and applications claiming more than $100 million. Since many of these are duplicate, invalid, revised, for purchases that have been cancelled, or include both a reservation request and application for the same property, we will accept at least 26, 000 total reservation requests and applications...The numbers are overstated as there are duplicate, revised, and invalid applications included. In addition, some purchases may be included twice if we have received both a reservation request and an application for the purchase. These ... Applications must be faxed ... Due to the high volume of faxes we are receiving, ... "

What a waste of time and money for taxpayers!

Why they do not learn the simple from IRS or limit the work load as:

"Accepting only application that the selling/buying is done completly such as Settlement Statement (HUD-1), read Instructions for Form 5405 from IRS. If they want to limit due to budget limit, then a first-come, first-served basis and the first 10, 000 ($100, 000, 000/$10, 000) application.

Stupid public people create $365, 649, 408, 999 California debt
http://www.usdebtclock.org/state-debt-clocks/state-of-california-debt-clock.html

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Claireannette
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Mar 03, 2011 1:04 am EST

The same thing happened to us when we bought a KHovnanian home. No one knew about the 14 day limit, so we were denied. We would have gotten $8700 credit. Our reservation was sent in on time, and we thought we would just apply the credit to our tax bill. We are on fixed incomes and this hurts very much.
Claire in Livingston, CA

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jabbercali
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Jan 24, 2011 6:13 pm EST

I completely agree. This happened to me with with a purchase of a new condo unit for my family. I was fully expecting to use the additional monies as a larger payment for the house. Now, I'm likely to consider foreclosure. Basically, a law that was desgined to stimulate the real estate economy and home-ownership is basically doing the reverse. I wonder what regualr people new about the 14 day deadline which does not make any sense at all. Why not reduce the amount so more people have access to the tax credit. CA needs to learn from the Fed tax credit.

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