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Black Box Firm review: Rip Off Scam 6

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Aaron Christner (who also goes by Vince Scarpuzzi) and his buddy Ryan Johnson (who also has an alias- Ari Schwimmer) are still up to their old tricks of scamming the unsuspecting. They have two new company names... Black Box Firm [protected]) and Keeping-it-fresh.com.

If you want to be ripped off, join up with Black Box Firm- you over pay by factors of 100 for a simple website. They will charge you over $5000 just to make a simple wordpress website- takes them all of 10 minutes to do. They host it on a server with 10000 other sites, and charge 20/month to host it. Then they really start upping the charges. You want to keep up with SEO- 2000 here and 5000 there. At the end of the day, all you have is a simple wordpress site a chimp could make, and an empty bank account.

If you just want to pay a lot of information you can get for free on Google, join Keeping-it-fresh.com. For this scam, Aaron/Vinnie and Ryan/Ari will take you money to give you access to their incredible "library" of tips to make thousands on the Internets. The only problem is, these tips are worthless. Most are already available for free on the Google. Others are just outdated or outmoded. Most are all just common sense. None are worth the entry fee, much less the up charges you will get spiked with later on down the road. Once these two scammers get their teeth in you, they keep hitting you up for more.

In both cases, it is the same old Ryan and Aaron, ripping people off with their scams. Again.) Try liking up some of their old business names like Cyber Innovations and Mad Cow Productions. They have been closed down by the state of Utah for previous rip offs... so they just change their name and do it all again. Here is a good article on some of their past scams: http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-801-312-1100/6

Leopards like this do not change their spots easily... and these particular leopards are the biggest scammers of all.
Also, this company The Black Box Firm is real good at not paying their bills. They do not pay their employees, they do not pay their vendors, they do not even pay their phone company (which is why their phone members changes a month or so ago). They rip off EVERYONE around them- their clients AND the people they work with. They are super scammers!

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tylerkv
, US
Aug 29, 2012 11:17 am EDT

Oh I laugh at this when I read it.. When I’m bored any have nothing else to do (but not stoned, because I do not smoke pot like you acuse me), I Google and see what new and exciting stories there are about Aaron and Ryan.. you guys have done a outstanding job on making us two a urban legend. Now I understand if you were screwed or wronged you might have a bitter taste, but does that every go away? ok so maybe i took advantge of you, but man get over it, life gores on. You are too lazy to get a real job or to really work or to do a good job or whatever, so now you spend you life all out to get me and ryan. you should thank us, we give yu all the help you need to make money and you spit at us and you are stupid and lazy.

I read these and laugh, because 85% of this is fairy tales and twisted to make you look like a saint.(actually you’re creepy ands lazy an stupit) also stalking these two…. I mean I know both of these two personally, are they good guys, that’s debatable for sure.. but do they rip people off no.. no clients.. just employees that do ### work and want something for free..they do have a interesting way of managing.. which is, if your a lazy person and do ### work, cause issues with clients.. they fire you and do not pay you, or they choke you out slowly, so you feel the pain( just as the client you screwed)…So.. yes they d have issues. enough issues, here you can speak about those, without making ### up.. your lame and worthless… probably one of those employees that lost there job, didn’t get paid.. and now you are all like cry baby because you think we owe you the moneys or something. If you were not too lazy you would have been paid bt you screw everything up and do not do your job and the clients can't call you and stuff. So here is some.. here is my two cents” Go get a new job move on with your like and stop be lazy and maybe take a class so you are not so stupit and let karma deal with me.(do not that Karma into your own hands, you look bad as them)… go get a new job move forwrd.. I’m cretin Kama will deal with these guys.. so go chill out… stop the hate mission.. your going to have to answer questions about harassment and stalking if you do not chill out.. and stop being a creep and a loose and be so lazy. I have known these two guys a long time and i know how honest and good they are they are doing good work heping thise who want to work hard and do good work. you should not be so mean and harrasing to good peoiple like my friends.

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AaronBlows
, BR
Jul 18, 2012 4:40 pm EDT

I guess they have burned enough people because some people have now started a website showing what these two are really up to. Mug shots from their DUI's and drug busts, and a history of all their businesses that have been closed down. It is worth a read to see all the scams by Aaron Christner and Ryan Scott Jensen including Black Box Firm Scam. (http://blackboxfirmscam.wordpress.com/)

So take a look and see what ### Aaron Christner and Ryan Scott Jensen are.

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Scherie
, US
Jun 08, 2012 4:04 pm EDT

I paid $4250.00 to setup and market an online business. I was assigned 3 different people and none of them finished my business. The phone system went out and the last person Lindsay Ford stopped calling and emails. I tried calling the number that she gave as a contact number but it just rings. They refuse to refund my money.

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BBGreat_Income
, TW
Mar 16, 2012 10:19 am EDT

WATCH OUT! This is a new company run by Aaron Christner (who seems to hiding out by using the alias Vince Scapuzzi now). He and his friends Ryan Jenson and Colin have set up this new scam to steal your money and give you out dated and poor quality software.

Their new scam works like this- they get you to want to put new material on your blog every day to increase traffic. This aint a bad idea. But because they are lazy, and figure you are too, they want to sell you a bot that steals other peoples posts on their blog and pot it on yours. The only problem is this is that this is plagiarism. And, strangely enough, Google can figure this out ins a new york second. You do not get more traffic, you GET BANNED BY GOOGLE for stealing. But Aaron gets your money! It is just Ryan and Aaron trying to rip off unsuspecting victims again! Oh, but what about that incredible library of useful tips to help you build your wevite traffic? Its all free stuff you can find by using goole and a little work on your own... not worth a penny, much less waht Aaron and Ryan charge!

What do I mean again? It is simple- Aaron Christner and Ryan Jensen are career Internet criminals. They rip off the naive, the unsuspecting, anyone they can. They are Internet con men of the lowest order. I got ripped off by them years ago, back when they were running Mad Cow. Now I try and go around and warn others when they start a new business…. which it looks like they are doing again now with keeping it fresh. Last year it wqs The Black Box Firm, a rip off scam where they sold people overpriced web sites. They are the crooks behind the aforementioned Mad Cow Productions… as well as Cyber Innovations which was shut down by the State of Utah, and Level11 Mentoring, which was so bad that Aaron and Ryan had to pay HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of dollars in restitution for their victims.

Don’t believe me? Look up Aaron Christner or Ryan Jensen on the Internet. Or their new aliases Vince Scapuzzi and Ari Schwimer… and think about why they would be changing their names all the time if they were not slimey as sin. Google some of their old companies. You will see that everything they touch is crooked, slimey and they lie to everyone about everything.

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Greg Hart 123
, US
Mar 08, 2012 1:49 am EST

I was about to sign up for this. They told me I would make tons of money online with their websites that they make. Then I got smart and looked online. I see this website and others telling me that these guys are a scam, always change their name but always rip people off. They change their company names all the time so to start new scams. I also look at their website... it is so bad, and they want to make me a good website? They cannot even do this themselves!

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Elisa2332
, BR
Mar 05, 2012 9:08 pm EST

These guys Aaron Christner and Ryan Jensen are sleazy con artists... They ran companies like Millennium Marketing and Cyber Innovations, Mad Cow Productions, Level11 Mentoring. They are not content to rip off clients, they rip off everyone around them... read more here...http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-801-312-1100/6