WOW! Brent they don't tell us to create "a list of loved ones," they tell tell us during training to create a list of everyone we know of, everyone we have ever met!!!! this list just ended up getting thrown in the trash for me. I honestly came up with about 900 names I just put people I met in grade school, people I met in church, friends, family, anyone, and everyone i have ever met. The purpose of my trainer (the Branch Manager) telling us to do this was for one reason because it was our homework, second he told us whoever came up with the most names at the end would get a reward (which I ended up winning, and was to sit in the comfy chair), and thirdly is in my opinion to be a thought jogger, to help us think of as many names as we can, of people we could ask to set up an appt. with basically. So it was not a big deal because we did not write any of those peoples contact info. and it was strictly for our personal use anyways, and we did not have to turn in or give any of that information to anyone else!
I am a Christian and I swear to God that noone has ever told me to break up that list into income groups. I swear to God also that I did not ever do that, and also I honestly don't even know how much most of my friends or their parents make. And even if I did know how much someone makes, I could honestly tell you that that does not necessarily make them the best prospects because like you said the best prospects are HM3's! We are also told in training not to pre-judge HM3's! I can almost guarantee you that anyone who has done more than 50 appointments like I have, has seen more people they don't know than people they do know, and how am I or any other rep to know how much that persons income is, I would never ask one of my friends or recommendations how much their friends income is. It is also common sense that more people who cook and would be interested in buying cutlery or outdoor items own a home are married and over the age of 30, duh!! And from personal experience I can also tell you that just cause someone makes a lot of money doesn't mean that they are going to buy more, a lot of wealthy people I have met have not bought anything, and some people who are just your average joe decide to buy a lot. Most of the time it depends on how much the customer likes you, sometimes they don't even care about you they just love the product so much.
Being that you, Brent, has interviewed so many people who have applied for Vector, which I don't know how you have done so other than by the internet because I don't think someone would agree to meet with someone they don't even know, and on the internet anyone can make stuff up, just as you have post a complaint on a web-site that noone can check up one because you are not willing to release the info. of the office you went to and who interviewed you and trained you!
During a fast start, which is a reps first two weeks of the company you are encouraged to do your best and i would think sell as much as possible, because you have the opportunity to get free cutco depending on how you much you sell. I sold around $1,500 in my fast start and i got some free cutco items which i like very much, and during my fast start i did not go and call people because i thought they would buy a lot i didn't have a lot of leads cause i could only see my friends and family in that period of time, i did not have enough time to call on the recommendations from my friends and family so soon. So basically the reps set goals for themselves my manager did not set goals for me, my goal was to sell $10000 of course i wanted to win all thos cutco prizes, but i didn't reach this goal, but i didn't quit because of it.
And you say and I quote "Breaking loved ones into income groups according to status may sound harsh but that is the truth of what I and many other applicants have seen."
When you say you and other applicants you are only talking about people who have applied, not for people who have actually worked for the company and can tell you that did not happen. Have you ever spoke to anyone who currently works for Vector Marketing Corporation selling Cutco????? Probably not, huh!!?
Then you say I still poses the training manual where the there is a page with a word for word description of how to set up an interview. The manual can also be found online. This shows the poor college kid sales techniques
My manual doesn't say anything about what you call "the poor college kid sales techniques" and I have never heard that before, that is a fake manual!
I have recently gone to conferences with my company, where hundreds and hundreds of reps attend and NONE of them i repeat NONE of them have your so called "poor college kid sales techniques" in them.
"Kim is right on one thing, you do have a initial call, see that is why they say the appointments are preset is because at the end of training (if you knew before or not) you call the people on your list and preset the appointment. "
I am not sure what you mean by this, the appointments I make are setup after I call my recommendations. So they are not preset! And duh!! why do you think they told us to make a list of our friends and family, we obviously are going to ask who we know, and not strangers to help us out.
If a customer does not want to hear the rest of our presentation they don't have to, we are not pushy sales people, we simply want to give them the next best deal, what they can get because we truly believe everyone should have cutco, we use it our friends use it and everyone whose ever used it love it. So what do you expect were just gonna show you one item, we want to show you what you can afford and as much of it as we can. Every sales rep on Earth wants their customers to buy a lot especially if that sales rep loves the product so much. There is nothing wrong with that.
We don't ask the customer for "3 friends and it continues." I simply say what my manual says which is "Now there is one more important part, heres where you can really help me out, I get paid every time I show Cutco, but I can only show people who give me permission, so what I need you to do while I'm cleaning up, is jot down 7-10 names of people who you can call, I'm not necessarily looking for people who would buy, just people nice like you, who are willing to take a look." Don't you think that is appropriate? after all how am i supposed to do my job if I dont get recommendations? I can't.
And yes it is true that most people who apply quit. That is a huge fact, in my office I saw more people quit than I saw stick with it. Why you ask? Because of course they ran out of leads, they stopped asking for recommendations. And they probably did not call any recommendation and asked for their permission. They were not willing to put the work in, and like any other job you have to work. With this company your job is making telephone calls, and going on appointments. Nothing to it, that easy, not that hard. and a lot of people can make a lot of money depending on how hard you work. For instance I make 25% of each sale right now, and depending on how hard you work you could make up to as much as 30% of each appointment plus an additional 20% of all the sales for that month. How awesome is that!! You can get promoted, win free stuff, gain better communication skills, get more resume experience, (for the top selling brand in the world). and have fun while doing it, cause you get meet new people all the time and make new friends. I love working for Vector, I encourage people to apply, and I have never came across in my office any of the bad things that Brent has mentioned in his complaint. So please go find out for yourself if you'd like, and apply at workforstudents.com . And please discredit everything negative Brent has said until you have factual information to back it up. Thank You for reading this.! |
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