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VACATION VENTURES LLC Complaints - MISREPRESENTATION AND SLANDER

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VACATION VENTURES LLC

Posted: 2008-01-26 by ROCKNEY J. CRUMM  [send email]
MISREPRESENTATION AND SLANDER
Complaint Rating:  94 % with 36 votes
Company information:
VACATION VENTURES LLC
1365 GARDEN OF THE GODS ROAD, SUITE #210
Colorado Springs, Colorado
United States
Phone: (719) 594-6501

THIS COMPANY MISREPRESENTED THEMSELVES BY ADVERTISING AN OFFER TO BUY MY TIMESHARE AND THEN REFUSING TO DO SO. IN THEIR ADVERTISING THEY STATED THAT THEY WOULD MAKE AN OFFER FOR MY TIMESHARE IF I ATTENDED ONE OF THEIR PRESENTATIONS. BEFORE THE PRESENTATION STARTED I ASKED MR. JIM RITCHEY, ONE OF THE TWO PRESENTERS THERE IFTHEY WOULD GIVE ME A CHECK FOR MY TIMESHARE DEED AND HE RESPONDED THAT THEY WOULD. WHEN I ASKED THE THE OTHER PRESENTER IF THEY WOULD GIVE ME A CHECK FOR MY TIMESHARE DEEDS HE STATED THAT HE WOULD NOT. AT THAT POINT I THANKED HIM FOR HIS TIME (TWICE) AND LEFT THE PRESENTATION WITH MY WIFE. I HAVE REGISTERED A COMPLAINT WITH THE BETTER BUSINESS BUREAU AND THE MISSOURI STATE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE (COMPLAINT#CF-2007-260002) CONCERNING THIS MATTER OF BAIT-AND-SWITCH AND MISREPRESENTATION BY VACATION VENTURES LLC. VACATION VENTURES LLC CLAIM THAT THEY MADE NO SUCH OFFER, AND IN THEIR RESPONSE TO AN INVESTIGATION BY THE MISSOURI STATE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE (COMPLAINT#CF-2007-260002) MS. DEBRA C. DUNLAP STATED THAT I THREATENED TO RUIN THEIR BUSINESS AND THAT I STATED THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I LIKE TO DO. THIS IS ERRONEOUS AND SLANDEROUS AND EXTREMELY UNPROFESSIONAL. DURING THEIR PRESENTATION THE PRESENTER STATED THAT A TIMESHARE OWNER'S DEPENDENTS AND DECENDENTS WILL BE LIABLE IN PERPETUITY FOR THE MAINTENANCE FEES EVEN OF THEY GIVE THE TIMESHARE BACK TO THE COMPANY. LEGAL COUNSEL HAS REFUTED THAT CLAIM. I WOULD APPRECIATE A RESPONSE CONCERNING THIS MATTER. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
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 431 days ago by David Pfeiffer  [send email] +1 Votes
My wife and I attended this company's presentation last Saturday and experienced the exact same scam. We stayed for the entire 2 hour presentation on the promise that we would be made an offer that day. We asked several times on the phone prior and at the presentation if they would make an offer. Each time the answer was yes. My wife even made very clear over the phone prior that we would not be giving them any money. The entire two hours of presentation was of how everyone in the room is hopelessly stuck with they're timeshares. There is no way out and when we die our heirs will be stuck paying the ever increasing maintenance fee for all eternity and by the way all time share properties are being turned into hotels so we won't even be able to use our timeshare ever again. Then to wrap up this wonder fantasy, he explained why his company is the only company that can save us from this horrible fate and for the great price of only $3559! These people need to be shut down now.
 224 days ago by   Zamudio +1 Votes
This company is unbelieveable. They also scammed me. I am an elderly gentleman who was given the presentation. I in turn signed a contract and paid 3400.00 to end my obligation with the time share. However for the past 5 months I have continued to receive maintenance fee statments from the time share requesting payment. I have attempted to reach the company to no avail. I have filed a complaint with the BBB and am following up with both my credit card company and the Economic Crimes Unit with the DA's office in Colorado Springs.
 159 days ago by   afriendofafriend -1 Votes
Vacation Ventures OFFERS usage of their many timeshares for their assistance in transferring the property from the Clients name into theirs. The benefits to the client are: not being locked into 1 specific property, no longer locked into a specific week, no longer paying monthly, quarterly, yearly or bi yearly maintenance fees, no longer paying property taxes, free of purchasing points, not having to worry about anyone in their family having to assume responsibility for the property after they pass and many more. The benefits of getting out from underneath a timeshare truly out weight the upfront cost. The fee you pay to Vacation Ventures realistically only pays for the transfer of the property from the client to Vacation Ventures. The majority of Vacation Ventures revenue is acquired through rentals not the initial sale of services. I really wish people would know and understand the facts prior to posting complaints. Vacation Ventures is not a scam, they have over 2000 transfers made from clients and well over that in the transfer process. When complaints are made to the BBB, AG, or The Dept of Agriculture, for no reason other than the transfer is taking longer than they expect it should slows the process down for everyone. That means someone has to stop working on the transfer they are currently working on and start working on a different one. Zamudio, in reference to your complaint above; it is clearly stated in your contract with Vacation Ventures that the client is responsible for making payments to the timeshare property themselves and after doing so should submit proof of payment to Vacation Ventures for reimbursement. Unless during the initial sale, special arrangements were made with the client to send Vacation Ventures their maintenance fee bill and Vacation Ventures would pay the property directly (this would be hand written in on your VVL contract) you must pay the timeshare and submit proof of payment for reimbursement. My advice is to get a grip, if you're not even a client of Vacation Ventures why are you filing not only one complaint, but three that I am aware of? As you stated in your complaint you didn't even stay for the presentation, not only are you wasting your own time, but you've wasted the AG of MO and the BBB's time as well and not to mention the time it took from Vacation Ventures actual clients so that someone may respond to your complaints. Not once does anyone at Vacation Ventures ever offer a check for your timeshare, not when you initially call into the answering service or when you receive a call from the Vacation Ventures office, nor does any other company for that matter. You are told they will make an offer. If you honestly think someone is going to offer you money for your timeshare, take a look at ebay and see how little PRIVATE sellers are getting for their timeshares, only pennies. You can most definitely deed your week and unit back to the property -A) Only if they offer it, most point based systems do not and a lot of the others do not either, and B it's not free, they will charge you at the highest rate for their lawyer fees, escrow fees, transfer fees and any other fees they may throw in, all typically amounting to more than Vacation Ventures offers their services for. The biggest misconception in this area is that people assume that a transfer is as easy as changing the name in a computer or file, this is so far from correct, original deeds have to be obtained from the county clerk, deeds have to be rewritten etc… The only other complaint I would like to touch on is from the original post "DURING THEIR PRESENTATION THE PRESENTER STATED THAT A TIMESHARE OWNER'S DEPENDENTS AND DECENDENTS WILL BE LIABLE IN PERPETUITY FOR THE MAINTENANCE FEES" This is Clearly stated in your Timeshare deed/title/contract. I cannot quote your documents as I don’t know which TS you have, but if you read through you will find a line showing that statement to be true.
The only scam you were sucked into was purchasing the timeshare in the first place. At a majority of properties you can rent the week you "own" at a lesser rate than your maintenance fees alone total for the year. As I know that you are aware you are responsible for your payment whether you decide to use it or not. Every year you pay have to pay for a vacation that you may or may not use. I’m assuming that since you looked into transferring these pieces of paper (let’s face it, that’s all you truly own) out of your name, you have realized how ridiculous timeshares purchases really are.
 70 days ago by   Richard Ballard 0 Votes
The Grant Deed giving legal ownership of our timeshare property in SoCal to Vacation Ventures was recorded on Sept 23, 2008. In January 2009 they quit paying the maintenance fees and have not paid for the transfer fees to the financial company handling the ownership dues and fees. As a result, I have been inundated with calls and letters demanding payment of overdue maintenance fees and threatening to turn matters over to a collection agency, because according to the financial company for the resort itself, I still own the property!!
The ownership transfer cannopt be completed until the overdue fees are paid. Vacation Ventures has refused to pay the fees they are required to by contract. Vacation Ventures legally owns the property, but they are sticking me with the overdue maintenance fees! They refuse to return my calls or answer/respond to letters asking when this matter will be resolved. In fact, they don't even answer their phone anymore, just an answering machine.
So, 'afriendtoafriend', why do you defend them if you think timeshare ownership is "ridiculous" in the first place? Can you explain why they quit paying the maintenance fees one they got the initial title transfer into their name? Can you explain why they haven't responded to the resorts' financial company or to me?
Sure, I understand what you are saying about getting suckered into a timeshare in the first place. But, does that justify Vacation Ventures actions, or should I say, lack of action?

I agree with Zamudio and others. Maybe a class action suit is needed.
 66 days ago by   yummy7942 0 Votes
Frankly, I think they have packed up their tents, taken whatever money they still have and left town. The deed we signed and returned to them in June is still not recorded. I have only received reimbursement for 1 maintenance fee I paid...4 months later after numerous phone calls and sending the documentation many times. Now their website is gone. No one answers the phone and there's no way to leave a message. Press 0 as instructed to leave a message and the answering message just starts over again. Wait until the message is through and do nothing and it disconnects your call. Call the non-toll free number and it rings and rings and then eventually rolls into the same "we're on the phone with other customers" message.
 66 days ago by   yummy7942 0 Votes
oh, and by the way, "afriendofafriend" is clearly either one of the owners or an employee.
 38 days ago by   pbill 0 Votes
My husband and I signed over our timeshare to Vacation Ventures in September of 2008. We are still without paperwork stating that they are, in fact, the new owners. As Yummy7942 states, phone calls go unanswered; e-mails receive no response. We are at our wits end with this group. I suppose this is a good lesson learned in how not to be stupid, but I feel like we were completely mislead and lied to. We are definitely considering contacting the Attorney General in Colorado Springs rgarding this matter as well as the BBB and the Michigan State Attorney's Office.
 12 days ago by   T3D2S2MA 0 Votes
I agree with all these comments . . .I entered into the aggreement to transfer the deed in May 2009. Received ONLY TWO reimbursements for maintenance fees I paid...4 months later after numerous phone calls and sending the documentation many times.

HOW DO WE collectively begin get the word out about SCAMS like these AND try to get our sanity back????? Of those of you have contacted the BBB, State AGs, etc . . .what are you being instructed to do?????
 11 days ago by   kjk19901986 0 Votes
Would anyone be interested in filing a class action lawsuit? I am seeking more information on how to do this. I filed with the attorney generals office in Minnesota. I contacted the attorney general in Colorado Springs and they told me this was a civil matter.
 10 days ago by   Flatcoat9900 0 Votes
YES, we would be interested in filing a suit. At the very least we would like to shut companies like this down. We have received a card from another company, different wording, but same scam. They are praying on those that have been sucked into the original scam with the promise to get them out of their time share problems within 24 hours.

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